Comments on: 69 year old man unable to find job, given only S$150 a month by government for living expenses http://www.tremeritus.com/2008/12/26/69-year-old-man-unable-to-find-job-given-only-s150-a-month-by-government-for-living-expenses/ The Voice of Singaporeans for Singapore Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:47:28 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: benny leow http://www.tremeritus.com/2008/12/26/69-year-old-man-unable-to-find-job-given-only-s150-a-month-by-government-for-living-expenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1186 benny leow Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:00:11 +0000 http://wayangparty.com/?p=3791#comment-1186 How can i donate some groceries to MR Chua? How can i donate some groceries to MR Chua?

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]]> By: JohnnyKid http://www.tremeritus.com/2008/12/26/69-year-old-man-unable-to-find-job-given-only-s150-a-month-by-government-for-living-expenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1185 JohnnyKid Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:34:46 +0000 http://wayangparty.com/?p=3791#comment-1185 4) Will YOU work a back breaking job as a sweeper to get $200 a month? If you won't why do you expect a 69 year old to? The $200 won't even be enough to pay for his medical expenses from sore joints and expenses for his increased food intake. 4) Will YOU work a back breaking job as a sweeper to get $200 a month? If you won’t why do you expect a 69 year old to? The $200 won’t even be enough to pay for his medical expenses from sore joints and expenses for his increased food intake.

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]]> By: JohnnyKid http://www.tremeritus.com/2008/12/26/69-year-old-man-unable-to-find-job-given-only-s150-a-month-by-government-for-living-expenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1184 JohnnyKid Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:31:35 +0000 http://wayangparty.com/?p=3791#comment-1184 5) Instead of blaming Singaporeans for not having CPF, why don't you dig deeper into the CPF system to find out the root causes? CPF *WAS* a good system to accumulate retirement funds until the government abused it by - allowing the use of CPF to buy flats, then increasing the prices of flats to meet the citizen's new found "affordability". As a result, Singaporeans used all their CPF on housing. - allowing employer CPF cuts as and when the government deemed fit. - raising the withdrawal age and minimum sums whenever it wants. - placing all sorts of restrictions on the use of Medisave. - not sharing with us the gains of the investments they made using our CPF. - not being transparent with where our CPF money is and how much there is. Even the President is unable to find out. - mass importing cheap foreign labour who do not have CPF. In order to compete, Singaporeans are also forced to lower their wages by not accepting CPF. - penalizing the self-employed by making it a crime to "owe yourself money" although the reasons for not voluntarily contributing to their CPF is because of the above. 5) Instead of blaming Singaporeans for not having CPF, why don’t you dig deeper into the CPF system to find out the root causes?

CPF *WAS* a good system to accumulate retirement funds until the government abused it by

- allowing the use of CPF to buy flats, then increasing the prices of flats to meet the citizen’s new found “affordability”. As a result, Singaporeans used all their CPF on housing.

- allowing employer CPF cuts as and when the government deemed fit.

- raising the withdrawal age and minimum sums whenever it wants.

- placing all sorts of restrictions on the use of Medisave.

- not sharing with us the gains of the investments they made using our CPF.

- not being transparent with where our CPF money is and how much there is. Even the President is unable to find out.

- mass importing cheap foreign labour who do not have CPF. In order to compete, Singaporeans are also forced to lower their wages by not accepting CPF.

- penalizing the self-employed by making it a crime to “owe yourself money” although the reasons for not voluntarily contributing to their CPF is because of the above.

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]]> By: Amy http://www.tremeritus.com/2008/12/26/69-year-old-man-unable-to-find-job-given-only-s150-a-month-by-government-for-living-expenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1182 Amy Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:20:25 +0000 http://wayangparty.com/?p=3791#comment-1182 In its ideal form, there are many things that are by itself a good thing, or started off as a good thing. But once abused, anything good will become bad. Same with CPF, a system that ideally takes care of old age could turn into an ugly ponzi when abused. Even capitalism in its ideal form is probably a good system. But put it in the hands of greedy animals and what we have now are animals who are not satisfied with $300,000 per month, while some poor souls have to struggle with $150 per month. In its ideal form, there are many things that are by itself a good thing, or started off as a good thing. But once abused, anything good will become bad.

Same with CPF, a system that ideally takes care of old age could turn into an ugly ponzi when abused.

Even capitalism in its ideal form is probably a good system. But put it in the hands of greedy animals and what we have now are animals who are not satisfied with $300,000 per month, while some poor souls have to struggle with $150 per month.

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]]> By: Wake_up_yr_ideas http://www.tremeritus.com/2008/12/26/69-year-old-man-unable-to-find-job-given-only-s150-a-month-by-government-for-living-expenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1183 Wake_up_yr_ideas Sat, 27 Dec 2008 05:05:20 +0000 http://wayangparty.com/?p=3791#comment-1183 CPF..? U got to be joking..it's a big ponzi scam by the PAP govt. The younger workers's contributions are used to pay off the older contributors juz like what tat Maddoff was doing. CPF..? U got to be joking..it’s a big ponzi scam by the PAP govt. The younger workers’s contributions are used to pay off the older contributors juz like what tat Maddoff was doing.

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]]> By: Sobri http://www.tremeritus.com/2008/12/26/69-year-old-man-unable-to-find-job-given-only-s150-a-month-by-government-for-living-expenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1181 Sobri Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:36:58 +0000 http://wayangparty.com/?p=3791#comment-1181 This is the plight of those who do not think much of CPF when they are young. Sadly, there are many young people today who would prefer jobs that do not pay CPF, simply because there will be more money to spend, they are still young, even if hospitalised they can stay in a C class ward, get help from Medifund or have the bill totally written off, etc. CPF may not be the ideal form of savings for old age, but for want of a better system, it is still very important. Unfortunately many young people do not practise delayed gratification. Fortunately, most did. Still, Many people are unhappy with the `forced' CPF contribution. I've heard complaints from house agents, taxi drivers and even hawkers................who feel they can take care of their own old age without government interference. Perhaps they are right............but then perhaps not, as this article has shown. This is the plight of those who do not think much of CPF when they are young.

Sadly, there are many young people today who would prefer jobs that do not pay CPF, simply because there will be more money to spend, they are still young, even if hospitalised they can stay in a C class ward, get help from Medifund or have the bill totally written off, etc.

CPF may not be the ideal form of savings for old age, but for want of a better system, it is still very important. Unfortunately many young people do not practise delayed gratification. Fortunately, most did.
Still, Many people are unhappy with the `forced’ CPF contribution. I’ve heard complaints from house agents, taxi drivers and even hawkers…………….who feel they can take care of their own old age without government interference. Perhaps they are right…………but then perhaps not, as this article has shown.

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]]> By: neutral http://www.tremeritus.com/2008/12/26/69-year-old-man-unable-to-find-job-given-only-s150-a-month-by-government-for-living-expenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1180 neutral Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:36:25 +0000 http://wayangparty.com/?p=3791#comment-1180 es, they gave me a job as a sweeper at ….don’t know where, offered me S$300 monthly, but the transport fares cost a hundred plus dollars already. at least u still got 200 dollars? es, they gave me a job as a sweeper at ….don’t know where, offered me S$300 monthly, but the transport fares cost a hundred plus dollars already.

at least u still got 200 dollars?

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]]> By: SPR http://www.tremeritus.com/2008/12/26/69-year-old-man-unable-to-find-job-given-only-s150-a-month-by-government-for-living-expenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1179 SPR Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:39:32 +0000 http://wayangparty.com/?p=3791#comment-1179 Good work. Shd interview more under-privileged to allow the people to know what are real things happening. Good work.
Shd interview more under-privileged to allow the people to know what are real things happening.

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]]> By: santa http://www.tremeritus.com/2008/12/26/69-year-old-man-unable-to-find-job-given-only-s150-a-month-by-government-for-living-expenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1178 santa Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:58:38 +0000 http://wayangparty.com/?p=3791#comment-1178 It's heartbreaking to see things like this happening here...The truth is there is more than one Mr Chua around in the same plight...Have Singapore forgotten it's own sons and daughters? Schools are showing Korean homeless sleeping in its textbook...and local media are showing school volunteers going oversea to build houses for "poor" countries...it is sad that they don't realised that people like Mr Chua is living amongst us...Yes he does get $$$ but $150? it would be more than enough to survive on $150 in mumbai or vietnam but in singapore? You got to be kidding. It’s heartbreaking to see things like this happening here…The truth is there is more than one Mr Chua around in the same plight…Have Singapore forgotten it’s own sons and daughters?
Schools are showing Korean homeless sleeping in its textbook…and local media are showing school volunteers going oversea to build houses for “poor” countries…it is sad that they don’t realised that people like Mr Chua is living amongst us…Yes he does get $$$ but $150?
it would be more than enough to survive on $150 in mumbai or vietnam but in singapore? You got to be kidding.

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]]> By: Streetwalker http://www.tremeritus.com/2008/12/26/69-year-old-man-unable-to-find-job-given-only-s150-a-month-by-government-for-living-expenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1177 Streetwalker Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:48:02 +0000 http://wayangparty.com/?p=3791#comment-1177 More of such...genuine...stories will embarrass our leaders i am sure. Hmm..but then, maybe not. lol. More of such…genuine…stories will embarrass our leaders i am sure.

Hmm..but then, maybe not. lol.

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