Geoffrey Pereira launches another tirade against Temasek Review on his blog
From our Correspondent
Straits Times journalist Geoffrey Pereira appeared to have lost his cool as he fired another round of tirade against Temasek Review. (read article here)
Last Friday, Mr Pereira published an article on his SPH blog attacking us for making “baseless” accusations against SPH.
His article was completely dissected and debunked point by point by us. Not only did Mr Pereira tried to obfuscate the matter by putting words into our mouth, he even got the basic facts wrong such as the time during which the alleged “grabbing” of our content occurred.
Perhaps peeved at being outwitted, outgunned and outflanked by a group of anonymous amateur bloggers, a visibly upset and emotional Mr Pereira continued to keep the issue alive by writing another (more) diabolic piece against us on his blog with the aim of destroying our credibility.
While we have exercised utmost civility, restraint and courtesy in addressing Mr Pereira in our articles, Mr Pereira chose to resort to name-calling in a desperate attempt to demonize us which is completely uncalled for.
Mr Pereira began by claiming that we have hurled “another piece of the usual nonsense at the company, often from the cover of anonymity.”
Since Mr Pereira regards our articles as “nonsense”, why is there a need to post two articles to rebuke them on his blog? Surely readers will be smart enough to judge for themselves whether the articles posted on Temasek Review are coherent or not.
Mr Pereira claimed that all our articles except our letter to SPH were “belligerent in tone and designed to ridicule his and his company.”
Mr Pereira took issue with the points we tried to made:
- TR never accused SPH of having a go at its server;
- he got the timing of the alleged attack wrong;
- he got the explanation, involving spoofing in Denial-of -Service (DOS) attacks, was wrong.
We don’t see how our detailed explanation to defend ourselves was misconstrued by Mr Pereira to be an affront to his status as a SPH journalist.
Serious allegations were made about us by Mr Pereira in his article. Just like we gave him the opportunity to defend his stance, surely we should be allowed to clarify the issues he raised as well?
Nowhere in the original article, be it the title or content did we accuse SPH of launching a DDOS attack against our server. Because the “grabbing” incident occurred a day after our server was down, we took extra pains to explain what DDOS meant exactly.
Mr Pereira obviously got his timing wrong. It was stated clearly in our article that the incident occurred between 10pm on 31 Oct and 1am on 1 Nov, but Mr Pereira claimed that no SPH journalist visited our site on 1 Nov from 1am to 6am. Did we write anything wrong by pointing out the factual inaccuracy in his article?
Furthermore, we did not accuse Mr Pereira of getting his explanation about IP spoofing in DDOS wrong.
Mr Pereira should have read our article thoroughly and carefully before jumping up and down again: IP spoofing is a common tactic used in a DOS attack, but in this instance, we are referring to content “grabbing” and IP spoofing is technically out of the question as we have already explained here.
Mr Pereira then went into a detour about the other articles we had published such as in ‘25 SPH employees “caught” surfing Temasek Review in 3 days’, published on Nov 7.
With due respect to Mr Pereira, we do not have to seek permission from him to publish any article we like on our site and it is really none of his business to interfere with our editorial policy.
Before he ended, Mr Pereira took another dig at us for capitalizing on the controversy to increase traffic to our site.
If Mr Pereira is a regular reader of our site, he will realize that our spat with SPH amounts to no more than 10 per cent of the articles posted on our site in the last one week.
Our main focus for the week was on the issues of immigration, rising prices of HDB flats, Chiam See Tong’s decision to move to a GRC and Mr Robert Amsterdam’s White Paper on political repression in Singapore.
Our traffic has been increasing for the last few weeks without or without this extra “publicity” from SPH. We can’t help it if Mr Pereira chose to divert traffic to our site by linking his blog to ours.
Strangely enough, Mr Pereira found fit to take issue with comments posted on his blog which was re-posted in an article on TR and accused us of “pelting and roasting” him:
“On Nov 10 yet another article from TR…..This was a compilation of anonymous comments, mostly poking fun at my original blog, and which TR filed under “Top News”. It was back to pelting and roasting.”
If Mr Pereira is unhappy with the comments poking fun at him, he should have deleted them in the first place. We did not post the comments and neither did we edit them with the intention to ridicule him.
In the last sentence of his article, Mr Pereira wrote:
“Our checks found that neither SPH as a company, nor any employee as an individual, launched a DOS attack on TR’s web server. There was also no attempt to “grab” TR material in a way that could overload its server.”
We have already clarified repeatedly that SPH did not launch any attack on our server and have apologized for any misunderstanding which may have resulted, so why is Mr Pereira still harping on it to divert attention away from the crux of the matter?
As far as we are concerned, it was a non-issue from the very beginning. It was Mr Pereira who chose to blow it out of proportion on his blog.
Perhaps, the sentence highlighted above in red can shed more light on what exactly happened.
So is Mr Pereira implying that SPH did “grab” TR material, but not in a way that could overload our server?
Well, that’s what we have been trying to find out all along: whether content from our site as early as 2008 was “grabbed” by anybody or anything from SPH!
Again, we did not accuse SPH of overloading our server with its “grabbing”: it didn’t because the software firewall on the server itself banned the offending IP address minutes into the action after the IP address exceeded 60 connects per minute, the threshold set by the system administrator.
Since Mr Pereira had admitted that some “grabbing” did take place, who are the culprits and what are their motives for doing so?
Can Mr Pereira or anybody else from SPH please answer these two questions point-blank without throwing smoke-bombs to confuse the public again?
Lest that Mr Pereira accused us of “ridiculing” him again, we must stress that the gist of this article is not to put him or anybody down but to clear up the misconceptions about the case. We are sorry if we bruise Mr Pereira’s fragile ego in the process.
From the tone of Mr Pereira’s article, it seems that he is more interested in ridiculing us and putting us down than engaging us.
Mr Pereira should really cool down and don’t forget the fact that he is a journalist by profession.
As for his comments that what we are “wayang” and what we have published is “nonsense”, we leave it to our readers to judge for themselves.
Related articles:
>> Debunking Mr Geoffrey’s claims in his misleading article: “Attack on Temasek Review: not SPH
>> Attack on Temasek Review: not SPH
>> SPH IP caught grabbing “content” from Temasek Review
>> Debunking Mr Geoffrey’s claims on “IP spoofing”

“…Mr Pereira tried to obfuscate the matter by putting words into our mouth…”
If true, is this act sue-able?
“If Mr Pereira is a regular reader of our site…”
no lah, their site din GRAB your contents right?
I suspect the journalists Consciously know what they write everyday and they CHOOSE to work there base on FREE WILL where the world is an oyster for real talents to find a job. So, since they Consciously do what they do with Freedom to Choose which company to work for, I suspect they enjoy being journalists in their organization which SERVES the PEOPLE without BIAS.
u believe me right?
Reading between the lines, SPH is ADMITTING that someone or something DID GRAB contents from TR’s servers BUT “just not in a way that could overload the server”.
If they HAD NOT GRABBED contents from TR’s servers, his reply would have been:
Our checks found that neither SPH as a company, nor any employee as an individual, launched a DOS attack on TR’s web server. There was also no attempt to “grab” TR material from their servers. PERIOD.
How clever, a nice play of words just as expected from these spin doctors at SPH, assuming he has no problem understanding simple english.
Maybe TR should rephrase the question and ask:
DID SPH at the time and date stipulated GRAB contents from TR’s servers regardless of whether the said act of grabbing did or did not cause additional load to TR’s server?
@admin, from their recent lack lusture reply, TR can safely assume that something or someone at SPH DID INFACT grabed contents from TR’s servers, no doubt about that since its a fact ADMITTED in their latest statement.
I never expect there is so much twisting and turning from you. Why don’t you release your server log and we can all judge for ourselves? (Without tampering the records of course).
“Grab” is an improper word to use that why he took offense to that. TR should use the word “pilfer”.
sph 有完没完
they better take care of their own business, which is suffering from the internet than engage in pointless battles online.
anyway, their latest decision to build clementi mall shows they are running out of idea to save their print business
Nowadays, when reading the ST times, i only read front page and world news. Home news I read those pertaining to non-local politics matters. The forum is being skipped as I personally find its full of BS and I am wondering if those who wrote in are real writers. Business section is read but news pertaining to GLCs are skipped. Used to be an ardent reader but the recent years made me uneasy when reading some articles.
Funny how SPH gets so worked up over anonymous ‘accusations’ when they help so much in the ‘accusation’ of Singaporean social workers that were detained without trial and horrendously tortured for 2 years in 1987. Wish I had a newspaper with islandwide distribution to expose the ‘nation building’ press, too.
Kan Cheong Spider on Fri, 13th Nov 2009 12:33 pm
“If Mr Pereira is a regular reader of our site…”
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wow dude… pls use your own unique moniker. plagarizing mine will not make you look better.
citizen on Fri, 13th Nov 2009 2:58 pm
I think Singaporeans should refrain from reading the Shitty Times. It is full of BS. The world news is at least 2 days late. And I too believe that those who write in to the forum are YPAP members, PAP activists, RC members and paid ghost writers.
I alway vomit when I read anything from the Chua sisters and Andy Ho.
I have stopped buying the Shitty Times and I feel liberated.
Kan_Cheong Spider ,
roger that bro.
“Our traffic has been increasing for the last few weeks without or without this extra “publicity” from SPH. We can’t help it if Mr Pereira chose to divert traffic to our site by linking his blog to ours.”
I believe Mr Pereira wants to draw TR readers to his blog. It is like a ghost town there.
I suspect the “grabber” is none other than Geoffrey Pereira himself. Perhaps there are no 25 employees who accessed TR at the relevant time, but rather Geoffrey Pereira used 25 login IDs to conduct the “grabbing” exercise.
He could have been tasked to bring down TR or he tried to score points with his masters by doing it on his own initiative. Either way, he is now required to clean up the mess he has created.
The tactics from his responses are similar to the time honoured tactics used by LYK himself. If you cannot win on facts and logic, resort to name calling or nitpicking to distract and confuse.
Geoffrey Pereira is smart in a certain way. Instead od DENYING COMPLETELY the incident, he chooses to wayang and play with words and ADMITTED the incident INDIRECTLY.
So whichever way readers thinks, SPH is not wrong in anway based on his comments. One has to learn to read bewteen the lines to get the real spin between his statement.
For example: There was also no attempt to “grab” TR material in a way that could overload its server.”
He is NOT DENYING that there was INDEED a GRAB of TR’s contents but merely DENYING that the GRAB did not cause an overloaded TR’s server.
Basically SPH is admitting that there was such an incident but it DID NOT cause any issues with TR’s servers. A clear cut admission worded in an indirect way.
The best is to ignore SPH and leave them to their own devices.
But some writers in TR just can’t seem to let go of this issue…
stop bitching and bullshitting through endless articles. I suggest you to challenge him and TR at the court (out of singapore). that way, both sides can be cross examined properly. you sound very pussy nowadays. what a loser attention seeker!
English is fun:
1. Fun : you can express same views in countless ways.
2. Flexibility : sentences that sound the same could be 2 worlds apart in meaning. Or one can say things in creative ways to sound nicer but still get the point across.
3. Financially rewarding: those with expert command of english can benefit financially from it eg. lawyers.
“Our checks found that neither SPH as a company, nor any employee as an individual, launched a DOS attack on TR’s web server. There was also no attempt to “grab” TR material in a way that could overload its server.”
“So is Mr Pereira implying that SPH did “grab” TR material, but not in a way that could overload our server?”
Bravo TR!
exactly how I felt.
His words could mean 2 things at least.
He should have the courtesy to clarify with a simple Yes or No to your question.
English, its so fun.
Hey admin,
Do you hear me? I am Darkness of the brotherhood. Do yourself and everyone here a favor, ask this Xisd Tay aka Sinkapore to sit down and shaddap before he falls down; he is the main cause for this mushroom cloud; if he just shut his trap from the very beginning instead of trying to play the role of the liaison officer; all this nonsense concerning dos will just blow over quite nicely and it will be business as usual, but what do we have here? Again?
Listen to me – I am giving you good advice here.
Darkness 2009
@Darkness, as far I am am concerned, you not happy, be a man and take it up with me. Don’t use TR as a platform for your personal agenda. Since you so bloodey smart and well connected, you should know how.
Also, why this DDoS here, DDoS there? NOBODY here is talking about DDos. Whats this DDoS fling you are having? Did you DDoS others so much that you sleep dreaming of DDoS too?
Frankly, I have NEVER heard of you nor have any stones to grind with you. What I post at TR is my opinion alone, just as you are entitled to yours. Don’t like what I am saying, just ignore me just like how I ignore you as and when I like
BTW, admin doesn’t owe you a living nor is she obliged to listen to you, you should really just return to your dark underground dungeon and do what you do best (oh yes, I DO know what you do for a living, I have my network too
)instead of taking pot shots and intimidating TR’s admin.
TR was letting the matter go but SPH choose to bring it up again, so if you have good advice here, you are directing it at the wrong person. YOu should go and advise the SPH so-called VPN Expert to shut the fiack up, but then do you have the balls to do that?
Im really not sure what your purpose is. initially i thought you are a good blog to read, as you offer news from a diff perspective. I assumed that perspective to be neutral. However, im not so sure now. I have a feeling, that you are becoming anti-pap, and in ur efforts to becoming anti-establishment, you might end up hurtin the singapore image as well as the brand name of the country.
a humble word of advice, do be objective and neutral. i will still read ur blog, but would be less likely to agree with you if u insist on being ridiculously anti-pap..
Hopefully, this comment doesnt fall