Interview with Kenneth Lin, 15 year old Singaporean who started a petition against Lee Kuan Yew
February 17th, 2010 | 
Author: Written by Our Correspondent
A 15 year old Singaporean by the name of Kenneth Lin has started an online petition against Singapore’s strongman Lee Kuan Yew for his disparaging remarks on Singaporeans made during his interview with the National Geographic Magazine. He is currently studying in a secondary school in Singapore.
Attached below is an email interview we conducted with him:
Temasek Review:
What are the reasons behind you starting the Facebook?
Kenneth:
As a Singaporean, I felt extremely insulted when our MM made those insensitive remarks. It shows that he is completely out of touch with the ground and shows no compassion for Singaporeans, who have been working hard their whole lives. I started this group because I am sick of him making comments like this and getting away with it. He has had his way for too long and now I think we should do something about it for a change, rather than keep quiet in fear.
Temasek Review:
What do you hope to achieve with it?
Kenneth:
I hope to raise awareness about what our MM has said hopefully, this will be a wake up call to Singaporeans who don’t yet know the truth, that our MM only cares about himself and is not the caring leader as portrayed in our history textbooks.
Temasek Review:
Aren’t you afraid of getting into trouble?
Kenneth:
As long as I believe that what I am doing is right, I will not stop doing it, even if I am a little afraid. I believe strongly in Justice.
Temasek Review:
MM Lee is widely regarded as the founding father of Singapore. It appears that you don’t seem to think too much of him. What are your views about him?
Kenneth:
I used to admire him alot. That was before I watch the film One Nation Under Lee in Sec 2 when I learnt of what was really happening in Singapore. That film changed my opinion of him forever. That wise, righteous and heroic image of him that our education system teaches is non-existent, and what I found out was that he was a tyranical despot, bent on destroying anyone who opposed him and controlled the state media for his own greedy needs. But he wasnt always like that. Before he came into power, he was preaching about democracy and freedom to the then chief minister David Marshall. But eventually he got so obsessed with power and money that he lost control and changed forever. As the saying goes, “Absolute power corrupts absolutely”, and I think he is a fine example of that quote.
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wow this boy got the balls! lol.
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hmm very big word for a 15 year old, look scripted.
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WELL DONE AH BOY!!!
FUTURE LEADER!! 3 CHEERS FOR U!!!
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I like that!
This deity likes what this ginna says!
Doom on those who still deny it!
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Starting a petition is one thing. Names calling is another altogether. I suggest TR takes down this article to avoid getting that kid into trouble. Given the cop’s trigger-happy reaction to locking teens and kids up for making online comments (as opposed to acting like timid mice when faced with foreign tiongs/talents, romanian maniac drivers and divine pastors), I forsee this kid’s gonna get some heat…
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Come of it TR its online/email interview.Put him on camera and let the public gauge. We are not playing “masak masak”
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Do you think the police will arrest him?
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This kid really got guts!!
Rather than punishing him, the Singapore Government should engage him and understand the concerns of young Singaporeans.
If a 15-year old Singaporean kid can speak this way, the PAP Government should really take a step back and review all their policies. Change is needed in Singapore.
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That’s the way. The PAP and LKY are afraid of looking bad if they sentence teenagers or women for offenses such as criticism of PAP leaders. I reckon he will not be touched… to hard. Maybe a warning from his school via MOE.
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Mind you, he is only 15yo…… I salute you, boy!!!
While many adults are still sleeping, and some snoring away, this little boy was spending times reading about Singapore’s history; of which most that he said wasn’t anywhere found in school history books.
Now, You can’t stop the fire!
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The TIDE has risen.
A sign of cracks on the dam.
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Will he be sacked out by his school?
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Waited and waited for donkey years.
Finally, the internet has unleashed its power.
The time has arrived, Singapore will change for the better.
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Singapore’s own Harry Potter.
Turning a new chapter.
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He is not even 18 years, below the age for capital offence (death by hanging) punishment.
Even if he commits an “offence” or defamation, he cannot even be jailed or sued (not even adult at 21 yet)!
At worst he may be sent for reformative training (a form of juvenile detention) but that is surely too much for what he had done “wrong”. If it happens this will be a laughing stock for rule of law in Singapore.
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wow a 15 yr old boy has more balls than some of our multi million dollar ministers!
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DOES HE EXISTS? ITS ONLY A NAME IN FACEBOOK.
FOR ALL YOU KNOW HE MAY BE A GROWN UP IN THE OPPOSITION PARTY OR A anti LKY LIKE MOST.
(READ THIS: “THAT WAS BEFORE I WATCH ONE NATION UNDER LEE IN SEC 2″)
PLEASE DON’T JUMP THE GUN AND START ANOTHER SENSATIONAL DEBATE.
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this boy is just a pawn, poor thing
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It will be a miracle for papayas to win the next election . Freak election is coming and cannot be avoided . The papayas are aware of it and very comfused and worried . They have screwed up the FT polices and losr 100 BILLIONS in investment using our CPFs .
Singapore citizens from 10 years to 80 years are ready to use their power to vote out the papayas . Time is not on papaya’s side as they have really screwed up every policies for the last 10 years .
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typical SDP’s black strategy. fight with proxies, use underage. the leader himself has time n again used his daughters as cover to draw sympathy.
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Hi all,
The links to Kenneth’s Facebook and petition are included in the article. Please check them out yourselves.
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If Singapore were to have democracy like the Western countries,there would already be street protests against LeeKuanYew.
What the 15 yrs boy did was just a small complaint against
LeeKuanYew for insulting Singapore citizens.
Because of internet access,local media can no longer
portray the good of LeeKuanYew and mask out the bad of
LeeKuanYew.
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How do we know that he is only 15? Can we be sure he wrote all that or his merely fronting for someone else. It reads as though it is scripted.
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There is hope for Singapore!!
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Its funny that the remarks in the Lee interview with Geo were insulting to the Muslim/Malay community but yet, you dont see MUIS or any other Malay/Muslim organization condemning Lee.
Heck, I’ll bet that most Malay/Muslims in singapore dont even know about the interview. Fortunately enough, I got to know the interview through my friend who is actually eurasian/muslim. When we read the interview, it was so blatantly racist and offensive that there was no time to get angry.
What’s so different about Lee and Pastor Rony? Kudos to this young lad. Though it may seem scripted, theres another word for it.
Its called editing. All publications do that. If they dont, its most likely we would be reading alot of “laaas and leh”.
@SDP is SHIT
Wow that’s a good reply, if it had good examples. You fail to mention how the PAP carries on with their work.
What? Controlling the entire singaporean media, making racist comments about their own citizens, spouting fanciful rhetoric not “black” enough for you?
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Its funny that the remarks in the Lee interview with Geo were insulting to the Muslim/Malay community but yet, you dont see MUIS or any other Malay/Muslim organization condemning Lee. Puppets or scared puppies?
Heck, I’ll bet that most Malay/Muslims in singapore dont even know about the interview. Fortunately enough, I got to know the interview through my friend who is actually eurasian/muslim. When we read the interview, it was so blatantly racist and offensive that there was no time to get angry.
What’s so different about Lee and Pastor Rony? Kudos to this young lad. Though it may seem scripted, theres another word for it.
Its called editing. All publications do that. If they dont, its most likely we would be reading alot of “laaas and leh”.
@SDP is SHIT
Wow that’s a good reply, if it had good examples. You fail to mention how the PAP carries on with their work.
What? Controlling the entire singaporean media, making racist comments about their own citizens, spouting fanciful rhetoric not “black” enough for you?
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this kid is awesome…
i will support u…
“change” will eventually come to singapore soon…
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Good job boy. It will sound very stupid if MM Lee is to sue him for defamation, a tactic he used with much success so far.
Goondoo says, such gut we see here in this boy, might not even be presence in those generals we have. I hope I am wrong though.
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Another hero! 少年英雄。
Respect!
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Attaboy!
Kenneth, your parents must be very proud of u….. heck, I’m proud of u, and I’d never even heard of u 5 mins ago!
Kenneth, u show great maturity and most importantly, MORAL COURAGE! U’ll go far!
I don’t think Kenneth will be arrested lah! On what charge? This is totally different from the 3 Facebook guys case, or Rony’s case for that matter.
Won’t the headline “Singapore Police Arrest 15 Year Old Boy for Starting Online Petition” cause a global public opinion firestorm? Heck, even the PRC govt doesn’t do something like that!
Don’t forget that the authorities may not care what locals think of them, but they’re so afraid of global public opinion! Hey, if they arrest Kenneth, it would then have the side effect of frightening away a million foreigners from ever wanting to set foot on our shores!
Kenneth, keep up the good work!
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I stand and salute this youth named Kenneth Lin,
He has done what his father’s and grandfather’s generation were afraid of doing for fear.And of course the fear was very real indeed.
Now with the dawn of internet the dissemination of news in real time is pretty real.Hence MM’s bag of old tricks does not work in this era anymore.
Now I see some light in the dark tunnel in which we were trapped for more than 50 years….THERE IS HOPE FOR SINGAPORE NOW.
I am proud of this boy ; No!, a MAN,..yes,yes..we have a real man in the making.
May the power be with you,Sir !
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THE boy need all the singaporean support. As the truth are not to reveal the face of MMLEE. THE only way is vote out the PAP.
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Links to the facebook group and petition are hyperlinked in the article as red coloured links.
Or you can access them directly here: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=220683258665&ref=ts
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/lkyapologise/
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Time for a change, vote for the Opposition. A young Hero had spoken up and hopefully, this is a turning point for all Singaporean to wake up.
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It is great that the new generation dare to face off with the mighty power of the LKY regime. Kenneth could be the future prime minister of Singapore if he is patriotic and righteous just as he is.
Who says youth in Singapore is apathetic? Looking at the youth today, they are going to do big things.
Go for Kenneth, everybody is behind you except the pappies.
If they dare put you so much as drink coffee with ISD, we guarantee you that netcitizen will never give that familiee a proper view of night and day.
Power to the new media.
Kenneth you receive a star who your action.
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as usual,when an individual start speaking up for singaporeans, some singaporeans begin to doubt,criticise harshly and even warn of arrest.
yet,there are still many singaporeans who encourage and support his guts to take on the mighty LKY.
This is a David vs goliath battle.(wonder if alex tan should contest in tanjong pagar to make this come true)
I am on the side of the underdog, David. History has shown that might is not right. underdog will have its day.
Let’s see who has the last laugh!
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Elated as we are, I would like to suggest to TR to establish whether Kenneth Lin is really what he says he is. Is he really 15 years old? Did he put up the petition on his own initiative? Was the petition scripted and edited by others? We have to ask such questions as the anonymity of the web and precedence of theft identity on the internet make such a news hard to believe without independent verifications. His petition sounds very mature for a 15 year old and I do not want TR and the rest of us be taken for a ride by some Papist ploy and we all ended up looking silly and the Papists score another point in discrediting the vocal internet community of dissidents and critics.
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why do you ppl think its scripted? I find kids super intelligent these days. Watch those TCS science quiz, spelling competition. You know that they are getting super smart these days. He might just ask for some sentence construction but I think the main gist are his own meanings.
Good for him. I hope they don come down too much on him. As for what they can do to him. Really almost anything. They don have to touch him. Touch his parents are more than enough.
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TR – make sure you take care of this boy. He might be sued or get into trouble. For a boy his age – he has guts and will turn out to be somebody in future.
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keep the spark burning…ALL SINGAPOREANS LISTEN UP! We might have a David here…let support him against the tyrant Goliath!
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I support Kenneth Lin’s action.
One question though :
Why is it compulsory to make a donation before you can sign the petition ??
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Looks very scripted.
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SDP is SHIT on Wed, 17th Feb 2010 11:06 am
“typical SDP’s black strategy. fight with proxies, use underage. the leader himself has time n again used his daughters as cover to draw sympathy.”
any one who is against the PAP is a proxy of SDP right? i can still remember clearly you were the same person who accuses me of being a SDP proxy.
http://notmysdp.blogspot.com/2009/12/sdps-latest-proxy-alex-tan-zhixiang.html
Kenneth Lin is really young and i hope he enjoys his immunity to defamation suits while he still can.
go Kenneth!! when you get to my age, there’ll be too many red tape to saying anything you like.
i’m sorry for not helping you advertise this petition over my facebook group because i am an opposition member and is definitely liable for defamation suits.
i personally admire Lee Kuan Yew and his old guards for their contributions up to 1990s. they belong to the Old PAP who deserved millions indeed, not the current administration today.
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should kuan yew be charged under the seditious act for racist remarks? i felt his remarks were clearly racist and against the malay community, that is not right. if boys as young as 17 were charged, then the AG should investigate and ensure the rule of law is upheld.
will someone make a police report? will the police investigate?
but do it fast because there is a time limit of 6 months on prosecuting racist remarks.
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If someone give him one-sided propaganda about the hateful wests, is he going to throw malatov cocktails at some embassy?
This gullible youth can’t see from many contexts. He’s still living in Aesop’s land. He thinks the world is either black or white with no shades in between. At least, he’s still young. After some age, others are beyond redemption.
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1. If Kenneth Lin is front for someone older???
2. If he is indeed only 15 years old boldly speaking of his mind??? Isn’t that a good thing as LKY has ALWAYS tried to control such minds and we now have a 15 year old speaking up frankly, sincerely, aptly and truthfully too!!!
3. So, what is….
“Metta808 on Wed, 17th Feb 2010 11:23 am
How do we know that he is only 15? Can we be sure he wrote all that or his merely fronting for someone else. It reads as though it is scripted.”… sprouting about then??? Especially when we know the consequences for adults being like Kenneth Lin. And also the controls Hong Lim Speaker’s Corner are all for making it a wayang thing too!!!
Be smart the we are “EVOLUTING” and that means it is a matter of time even pappy will be no more. NOTHING LASTS FOREVER and a an old guy is still to do do the exact opposite!!! He is smart then going against nature!!!
Sorry I have to attend to nature’s call. Quite unlike a pappy or pappies who can defy NATURE. They live well and might. But only for a while and as it lasts!!! Winds of change will surely come. Heaven has ears, eyes and timing!!!
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Great Scotts! I will beam you up if they try to arrest you! Boy you speak all of us minds! Good job!
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Old Harry had to be taught a how to behave by a 15 year old. Sure lose a lot of face.
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Politicians could not apologise for their mistakes made.
If they do, they lose credibility and integrity, and have to
resign.
It is altogether different for businessmen and bankers e.g.
Warren Buffet came up to apologise for the investment losses
made during the financial tsunami. You just can’t expect
MM Lee or Ms Ho, being so closely related to the political
elites, to apologise. Ditto, with the geographic Society
interview about lazy Singaporeans.
But it takes a lot of guts to make an apology on the national
stage, but this may instead encourage respect from the people,
as we are brought up to accept to err is human. But, of course,
it is a different matter in Singapore, esp for a big figure like LKY.
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Time to watch the reaction of the authorities as well as the agencies of the MOH. If they do well to engage him and listen to his feedback, even acknowledging his public-spiritedness and legitimate concerns, then I would think that PAP has gone some way to earn back my respect. And even my vote.
Should they use heavy-handedness to deal with him, then I should think the populace (and myself) should know what to do come next election.
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The fact is even a 15 years old boy is so pissed off with him, cannot imagine how much more will it be like to the rest of the full grown adults singaporeans.
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“greedy” ?
“money” ?
Really ?! Hoh !
I DON’T THINK SO.
BUT THAT IS MY OPINION AND I AM ALSO ENTITLED TO EXPRESSING IT, JUST AS THE YOUNG MAN IS ENTITLED TO EXPRESSING HIS.
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Just thought I’d mention that it doesn’t seem scripted to me. He’s 15, not 5. My friends and I were writing like this when we were 15. Also, this was an email interview. He had time to rewrite stuff.
Anyway, real or not, I guess my main reaction is admiration because I’m too much of a scaredy-cat to do what this guy is doing. Maybe this is a good kick in the head to get out and start doing something, hey?
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I can’t but be tempted to agree with you. But then how does one expect a blunt and Non-Refined politician to apologize???
Especially, one who always claim so highly educated in law and experience. Yet can literally utter things like When he sees something going wrong in Singapore, he will jump out of his coffin to do something about it!!!
From the position of LOFTY Office for so long… Are we too demanding to expect even finesse. The guy is so darn egoistic that he doesn’t even know how to add just “if I can”!!!
“@popcorn”… Please listen more to Obama and Hillary Clinton and you’ll know better how one can literally write like say “A POLITE claim letter WITHOUT even using the word CLAIM” and THEN WIN your claim!!! I’ve done it many times before!!!
Oldest man incumbent politician does not impress us one bit in this arena. And is it also telling about his other sinews.
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I am for the opposition. But I hope it is true that we have 15years old interested in politics.
TR may have to give more details on this chap. Otherwise it maybe just be a hoax.
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LKY over last 5 years has lost all respect that he had earned.
Due to lack of serious political competition – he has forgotten the virtue of humility and respect.
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Anything you cannot relinquish when it has outlive its usefulness, Possesses you.
And in typical Sinkapore, the famiLEE members are possessed by their own possessions.
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Looks like the boy has got a political agenda – being used by opposition forces
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To alex tan on Wed, 17th Feb 2010 1:42 pm
You may wish to find out about Dr Albert Winsemius, which in my opinion was the true architect of modern Singapore. It was not LKY or PAP.
And let us not forgot, it was the PAP that incited the Hock Lee Bus Riots, which they blamed on the ‘communist’ elements of the PAP. But the fact was, it was engineered bring down our first prime minister Mr David Marshall.
And coincidently, PAP & LKY went power-mad went Dr Winsemius passed away in 1996.
On top of the racial discrimination of the Malays who, time and time again have been punished by LKY because, the majority have never voted for the PAP and LKY had a bad experience with Malaysia.
It is good that our youth, are making an effort to change our socio-political landscape for our future. However, we need to remember our history, to avoid the underhanded things the PAP can do to us.
LKY has gotten away with so many misdeeds, that is why he is not afraid to say and do whatever he wants.
He is a dangerous animal who is not afraid to use whatever means necessary to stay in Power or silence the opposition.
To quote from Sun Tzu – The Art of War:
“So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.”
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He has the “balls” bigger than all the ministers combined…hahah. This is called real leader, non-followers and faithful citizens.
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Respect the old man, else… when you become old, who respect you? Hahahahahahahahaha…
Nobody can do things everybody is happy about.
Of course, when one hits under the belt, then that’s another issue. Hahahahahaha…
Basic principles, 先礼后兵.
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This is not real. I do not believe there is this 15 year old so stupid will do this and kill his own future.
It is scripted by someone, or edge on by someone. On FB, anyone can be 15 or 51.
TR – do not be fooled. Savior has not come yet! And probably never will given that old man grip on the nation.
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IN FACT,
BESIDE THAT OLD MAN, ALL THE REST OF THE PAPAYA MINISTARS WHO SITS IN THE CABINET, SHOULD ALL STEP OUT ONE BY ONE AND GO FORTH TO THE STAGE AND HAVE A NATIONAL APOLOGY TO ALL CITIZENS IN SINGAPORE!!!
THEY OWE ALL SINGAPOREANS A NATIONAL APOLOGY!!! SHAME ON THEM WHO STILL COLLECTS THE OBSCENE PAY WHERE THEY DON’T EVEN DESERVE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!
PUI!! PUI~!!
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Kenneth, if you come of age and stand for election in Tanjong Pagar against the old man or any party member, i’ll vote for you hands down. Singapore needs people who can STAND AGAINST LEADERSHIP not cowards who say yes nad lead to the coutnry’s failure. For that matter, there is none in the current ruling party that deserve respect because they are all yes men.
Voters must be encouraged to read news from many sources and assess for themselves who is doing the job and who is in the political job just to get money……EXAMPLE everyone must check which MPs or their husbands are punting heavily in the stock market or property market….it’s scary to have these type of pp in power….theri million dollar salary is still not enough.
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Kenneth, you got “b.lls” and this will be like david vs goliath
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# The Sim, # CitizenReddot, # SDP is SHIT, # Metta808, # 2 face, # PAP on the way to Decline, # RisLowBoomz
So what if it is scripted? Why do we does TR need to interview him or dig into his background? I think that TR should dig into your backgrounds and see what worms crawl out.
For most of us here, this young man speaks what we all have been rumbling & grumbling about. My father worked like a dog, I work like a dog & now I see my children working like dogs. So don’t tell me that we need the foreigners here for the f**k ups due to PAP.
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hello ,
to//anon,
r u sure u still wannna to c tat old man in the election for the next next election…
please, so many ppl is already holding their chamapagne when he called to surrender is i/c!
we r so much awaiting tat he quickly surrender to his pink i/c and moved to the other side of the world!!
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Come on, this guy is 15, not 5 obviously he will know both sides of the story, buttered or not. My friend’s 15 year old son already discussing about China’s Cultural Revolution and prominant members of the Politburo from that time. Please, kids are not as dumb as we think (at least, some of them).
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I want to hear this boy speaks at HL park…He is 15…I hope he doesn’t get “marked” by u-know-who.
Next thing you know,foreign press may be interested to interview him and he will get more attention than he needs.
The last thing Kenneth needs is to be outcast by his peers at age 15.
I salute this young chap for speaking up his mind and to voice what other adults can only swallowed their anger over MM remarks.
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Oohs ! Well done boy ! I suggest you join the opposition group in the coming election. Count my vote !
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i know this boy, and he’s great with politics.
He’s not a skeptic, and a true believer.
respect, kenn.
Cs.
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Does Kenneth exists or is he a “PHANTOM” of TR???????
Does his parents know or aware of what he is doing????????
This is a political forum and not an “OPERA”
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Wah! Whose kid is this, huh? Must go and congratulate his parents, man! How did they come up with such a righteous kid?
Those YES MIW must feel ashame, very, very ashamed of themselves, la! 连个十五的小伙子都不如 and yet dare to draw million $ pay! Pui!!!!!
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3 cheers to this ah boy for daring to ask the old man to say sorry compare to the Million Dollars Ministers. I salute you and may God Grace and Blessings be always with you and your Family. Cheers
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His blog addy is http://vipersonic.spaces.live.com/
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I wonder what his parents think of his actions. Can TR get an interview from them as well?
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I believe many young Singaporeans feel the same way.
The tide is turning against the MIW.
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I would like to give this young boy $100,000 if I see him in Singapore as a scholarship to train him to be a real leader.
“Courage is not absence of fear; it is acting on despite fear.”
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the knives are out. character assassination, casting doubts about the authencity or existence of this 15 year old boy, insinuating he is a creation of TR,
I have seen all this before. it doesn’t work now with the internet. ferreted out immediately
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anonymous>>>with greatest respect for your intellect, I went through his blog.http:..vipersonic.space.live.com/
1.All I see is a blog like most anonymous blog with slanting
bias towards an activists Seelan Palay & SDP
2.TR is moving forward as an independent Singapore for S’porean
website where people who expose themselves with courage like
Eric Tan not an unseen hand promoting a Phantom.(nothing against S.P & SDP they have their own blogs and I wish them the best)
3.If this courages boy exists and show himself together with
his parent’s approval than the support and encouragement is
fully justified. If not we are debating and ranting ourselves
sore for a Phantom that does not exists and the unseen hand
achieving what they could not in their blogs or personal
agenda.
Anonymous and the thinking TR bloggers, do you all not agree?? if not than I apologize humbly for being wrong. What we want is a thoroughly independent TR where PAP,PAP supporters,anti govt. anti PAP,pro opposition & most of all civil servants,MPs and even ministers to write in knowing that TR is a level playing field for all.Where everyone irrespective of their thoughts and inclination are most welcome.It is a tough call but unless TR improve their articles and scoops with more finesse and due diligence,it will be considered another Tabloid website slightly better than the run of the mill you commonly find.
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It so appears that Lee Hsien Tau and Elfred’s comment exchange no longer appear. Is someone in Temasekreview against what freedom of speech? Hahahahahahaha…
Or is it just a technical error here on my screen.
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Reminds me of HK pirate DVD sellers.
Use kids to sell DVDs. Law had to be changed so that pirates who used kids were jailed for long time.
Either that or this boy is seriously challenged in humour department. Got to got to work hard.
Chill out. Life is one big party.
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CitizenReddot,
Given the political reality, expecting Ministers to write in may be too ridiculous. Hahahahahahahaha…
You’d expect them to party at the beach with sexy ladies instead of wasting their sliva with such sites. Do you know what is the consequence of lending credibility to (say) Temasekreview?
Yes. They need the cyberspace.
No. Temasekreview would be beyond their control. What if they said the wrong things, they realise the PM is going to send in the ax, then want to ‘instruct’ Temasekreview to remove or edit?
If Lui bluntly used ‘adversaries online’, do you think he’d assumes it easy to just demand or ministerial instruct TR to amend???
Are civil servants so… courageous? Hahahahahahahahahahaha…
Most likely, you’d expect their media men. That’s all.
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CitizenReddot
In a place like S’pore where the MSM believes in Nation Building, TR (as you describe it) fills a need.
From extremes, comes a balance.
And ask yrself, why would any activist for change want to give time of day to PAP, when PAP doesn’t do the same for them.
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@ CitizenReddot on Thu, 18th Feb 2010 9:12 am
TR is an open debating floor. I like it. No one view “prevails”. Some views exert stronger compelling arguments in substance, compelling logic and evidential support.
And TR does NOT censor, I hope not at least, contrary views which I am glad because they provide the “ammunition” and targets for counter-attack of thoughts and views. Inevitably, there will be some histrionics and some are patently trolling to disrupt a rational robust debate. I prefer not to identify them – they know their illogic, pretense of awareness of evidence provided and just rants their illogic incessantly but thinking TR bloggers noticed.
In many other blogs, contrary views are immediately deleted. I see contrary views in TR – well reasoned or otherwise or just plainly mistaken for want of knowledge, information and perhaps worldly experience. Nothing is wrong in being “inadequate” (note I used that word in inverted commas) because we ALL LEARN FROM EACH OTHER.
UNLESS A BLOG IS IN ACTIVE CENSORSHIP, THEN IT IS A MINIATURE REPRESENTATION OF VOICES OUT THERE. TR can’t stop anyone from contributing never mind its own editorial write and the blogger’s own preferred stance. I some times see a string of troll by same author with NO CONTRIBUTING THOUGHTS AT ALL. That is clear evidence of neutrality – not intervening. It tolerates troll which I dislike, personally because I like robust discussion.
I do like to see more and more robust debaters coming here and I am seeing progress on this front. Great informed minds are coming here. It makes TR interest forum to read and participate.
BTW, I am not the party in reference to this link
http://vipersonic.spaces.live.com/
And I have not even look at it in fairness of truth. I do NOT prejudge if Kenneth Lin exist or it is an incognito but if his blog is him, it is a marvel of a great provocative learning mind deserving of my admiration – be it for his business or political future.
NO ONE NEEDS TO APOLOGISE FOR HIS OR HER ROBUST VIEWS.
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TR is a useful platform where divergent views can be heard. However, it seems that TR enjoys promoting views that opposes the PAP regardless whether the views are sensible or otherwise.
I urge TR to focus on the issue rather the person if TR wants to be regarded as a credible media. Is hard to believe that a 15 year-old is capable of using such language to express his view.
Now, what is strong with SM Lee’s view that overtime, Singaporeans have become less hard-striving and hard-driving? There is a saying, “if you don’t take chilli, you won’t feel hot!” If you are hard-driving and hard-striving than the view does not apply to you.
I have worked with many Singaporean entrepreneurs – and by nature, they have to work very hard. And you solicit their views, many would agree that foreign workers tend to be more hard-driving. Of course, there are many hard working Singaporeans among them.
I remember a Taiwanese saying “if the stomach is not hungry, our will is in no hurry!” Use the view expressed by SM Lee to impress on your children and children’s children it would be useful for life.
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Well, I have to give it up to him for coming up with this interview and with the petition. But while MM Lee’s comments were less than favorable, to label him a despot and corrupted is taking it too far. He’s basing his argument on a film and an interview, like come on! IF not for MM Lee “getting his way” this boy would not have been studying in the first place. I agree that Singaporeans have to become more aware but implying the need to oust the current political party, I don’t agree.
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Dear D. Tan on Thu, 18th Feb 2010 11:13 am
But use your common sense. Sooner or later the PAP will have to lose power. It can be 100 years later but sooner or later, and by hook or by crook. If we don’t have alternative parties able to take over, things may
Part of LKY’s trick is to make his family and PAP indispensable – “without me, Singapore cannot survive” concept
The Qing Dynasty in China lasted 266 years and was almost invincible in the beginning, but still fail in the end. However its effects lasted much longer, wars, chaos, HK and Macau was lost to foreign rule for 100 years.
Therefore the earlier, alternative parties come up, the better for Singapore in the long run.
I like to believe that nobody or party is indispensable including LKY and PAP. There are 60,000 Civil Servants that are supposed to serve the people and not PAP). There are 3.2 million Singapaporeans in Singapore. All these people cannot be all daft, right?
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15 year old boy demanding & questioning our grandfather LKY to apologise? It will never ever happen.
Maybe LKY will know about this petition, provided it reaches 10k.
btw will Kenneth get his school principal in trouble?
Who knows, Kenneth might be a good opposition in the near future.
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Hey! this boy is not too far off …wait till you lose your job and become financially tight. Than you’ll know how efficient is our IRAS, SP, HDB, etc. They’ll work against you and come down hard on you and squeeze the life out of you!
I’ve worked so hard for the last 30 over years and all for nothing…MM is out of touch leow! so is our Gov!
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I read his blog, the article there are really SDP style. His face-book cannot be access.
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@ Henry Ang on Thu, 18th Feb 2010 10:42 am
TR editorial is anything BUT JUST ONE VIEW. The views on any thread in TR are 99% those of the bloggers. I have NOT seen TR taking sides especially when debates get robust.
That makes TR relevant and attractive to readers and forummers. You cannot get the same flavor of robust debate in MSM – a regular diet of fictions and make belief there. You don’t even get an informed read of divergent uncensored views in MSM.
But things are changing. The migration to internet is as natural and it is reversibly logical as democratization of information and informed judgments. We getting a lot of benefits in TR from everywhere else except the warped judgment and political prejudices of ivory tower and vested political interests.
For the first time, people are seeing a lot beneath the usual camouflage of lies, deception and misinformation. When they see a lot of dysfunctional outcomes of policy decision impacting Singaporeans’ lives superficially explained of in arrogant contempt of reality, the citizenry will know it is time for inevitable change TO MAKE THINGS WORK not for change sake.
THE OLD HOAX OF ARGUING that citizenry is “OPPOSING FOR THE SAKE OF OPPOSING” is running down a dry ravine of river beds – the sunlight of truth is drying that empty rhetorics faster than it can flow downstream of no believability. People are making informed choices as time slip by.
The world has shrink from global village to a congested household. The day Obama lost grip of Democratic control of his key policy agenda plank is the day his reform agenda crash and they will impact massively the global political economic landscape. And if we are not economically robust to withstand those shocks as we are now, the rate of sinking will be faster to the stage of really being a ill-fame “SINK-gapore.
A disintegrated economy and a handcuffing political dogmatism is NOT something a rational mind can support of ANY political party in an era of turbulent change heading for a climax which some societes might tank to no recovery.
We face hard choices AND THEY HAD BETTER BE INFORMED CHOICES, not reckless gambling rammed down our throats when consequences are irreversible just like migration influx.
The nuclear power energy option and perils of underground living and transportation mode are at the back of my tortured mind.
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The migration to internet is as natural and it is reversibly logical as democratization of information and informed judgments
Typo error there. Sorry. It should readThe migration to internet is as natural and it is IRREVERSIBLY logical as democratization of information and informed judgments
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Anonymous @ 10.26am,Elfred @ 10.24am, @ A Tan,Kenneth Ang and D.Tan.
Gentlemen, many thanks for your rational posts much appreciated and lets hope TR will achieve what it set out to do and (anonymous, sorry for the mistaken identity as it was very unlike you to post irrelevant and unnecessary comments.)
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@ CitizenReddot on Thu, 18th Feb 2010 12:27 pm
Thank you for your graciousness.
NO apology is warranted and needed from you. I AM HERE TO LEARN FROM YOU and all other rational bloggers AS WELL!!!
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In Hokkien we say this kid is ‘BO KAR SI’
To be used by others mean that you have a small brain. If you have a small brain then you should give more space to your studies rather than on something you don’t understand. Of course we know you didn’t write it. The English and the accusation are the usual dog shit.
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Keep it up, boy! I am very proud of you! You are the second young man that dares to call LKY a despot, which indeed he is.
Mahatir called him the “Little Emperor”.
Will he sue any of you? Very unlikely as he will be cut to piec
es if he is foolish enough to face any of you in Court. Chee Soon Juan have already done that!
This despot, through the Pay and Pay party is stealing your future. Can you afford to buy an HDB flat and raise a family?
The answer is NO beacuse the PAP money sucking machine will keep on sucking your money until you drop.
More people are losing their jobs, more are going crazy, more families are broken up, more are falling sick and more are dying.
Do you what they will do to your grandfather when he is very sick. They will push him to a ward at the far end of the corridor and let him die! My mother is a victim of this PAPist policy.The PAPist will not spend money to save your granfather. To them, your grandad has no more economic value! They will rather spend 10 Million to enetertain and welcome hordes of foreigners!!!!
Keep it up! You have earned your place in our Nation’s history. You can stand tall beside Chia Thye Poh and his comrades, JBJ, CSJ, ex-President Ong and a long list of national heroes who dare to stand up, look the dictator in his eyes and called him a, DESPOT!!!!!
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“Mr” Kenneth,
I would like to advise you to stop your petition immediately, to avoid jeopardising your future and your family. This is not America – this is Singapore. You cannot questioned someone of this status. There is no room for that.
At age 15, I do not know if you fully appreciate the full impact of what you are doing. If you have been influenced by others, that someone should stand out to be recognised and not hide behind your back.
No one can be faulted for making a wrong decisions, as it is base on available data at that moment.
Regrdless, my advice is to stop your petition now for your own good.
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Anonymous>>>> think nothing of my graciousness,your posts is something I look forward to, with its golden nuggets, rational and wise penmanship. I truly believe with yours and other rational bloggers contributions,TR will draw other Great informed minds to share their thoughts.
“KONG CI FATT CAI” to all ” Meeeoooow- or do tigers Rooooaar “
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CitizenReddot,
Rationally speaking, from my angle of view… pretty rational.
Anyway, the next topic I’d blog about is this… hahahahahahahaha… most speculated New Immigrants and Their Impact on Election.
If people are interested, just stay tuned. If not, no obligations.
It’s about time to address this silly concern. Hahahahahahaha…
Hahahahahahaha…
Hahahahahahaha…
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@peter tan
the monarchy in the uk lasted for over a 1000 years and is still on going. they still bow to the queen there who lives in her castle.
even the british rule in singapore lasted 150 years.
the pap has only been in power for 50 years, they can easily last a 1000 years.
as for “I like to believe that nobody or party is indispensable including LKY and PAP. There are 60,000 Civil Servants that are supposed to serve the people and not PAP). There are 3.2 million Singapaporeans in Singapore. All these people cannot be all daft, right?”
singaporeans are pretty daft if you look around. look at what idiots like “neutral” are saying. just walk around the streets of singapore and try to talk to ppl about current affairs, most cannot even string together proper sentences in english dont talk about current affairs
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Kenneth Lin is an example of the next generation of Singapore heroes. Great work!
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Hi Elfred>>>>>>>>> hypothetically there are +- 100,000 new citizens since the last election,probably spread out in enclaves all over Singapore.
My guess will be a censor to determine their residential status and redraw the election boundary in accordance to PAP’s perceived advantage and why not? They are at liberty to do what they feel they need to being the incumbent govt.
What say you Elfred and lets hope we can draw “anonymous” into this fray.Better still if someone with a better outlook in this subject write an article about it for a “Robust debate”
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“Whoops” miss the jump there is an article by TR on new immigrants and their effect on the next elections.
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I seriously believe this 15-year-old is a fraud. Realistically speaking, Singaporean youth in general today are politically apathetic. Such a bold move like this is likely to cause him rejection from all public schools, blacklisting forever which is tantamount to a lost future unless he decides to leave Singapore. I think there is very very few young people out there with enough balls to do it.
In any case, if Kenneth Lin really does exist and that petition was really his own earnest intention, then kudos to his bravery, albeit it’s a rather foolish bravery. I appreciate the intent but… Why throw away your future NOW? Finish your studies, keep out of trouble, make something out of yourself first, THEN initiate change once you have some sort of socio-economic standing. I’m not discouraging you but in the current state of things I view your actions as being only foolish, ineffective and worst of all, self-detrimental. (I hope this is not some ploy by an immature kid just to attract some attention… :/)
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■Police on Wed, 17th Feb 2010 9:47 am
Do you think the police will arrest him
ARREST HIM N SURE LOSE MORE VOTES.
Pastor Rony Tan of Lighthouse Church already costing them lots of votes.
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Next election will be exciting and turning point for
oppositions.
More credible opposition parties are formed.
More youths speak up against the government policy.
More ex-government people join oppositions.
More citizens are unhappy over housing,unemployment
and foreigners issues.
Even new US embassador urges for political reform in Singapore.
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I have a friend who knows Kenneth Lin personally and this boy is for real. He reads up a lot on the Internet, and that’s why he’s capable of such an output.
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IT IS EXACTLY COWARDLY PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO ARE THE “FEED-STOCKS” FOR REGIMES AND NEPOTISM TO FLOURISH like nuclear Power Reactors!!! WHY??? Have you not heard of Nobel Prize Winner Gorbachev who Toppled the Soviet Union. And the late Gus Der of Indonesia WHO as President brought back some sense of value back into his homeless??? We all can name countless BRAVE-HEARTS And GENTLE GREAT PEOPLE LIKE THEM. But guys like you ARE JUST far too timid to even Thank Those Who DARE SACRIFICE to BRING CHANGE FOR THE BETTER!!!
PEOPLE like you are what you are in your cowardice who can only offer “In any case, if Kenneth Lin really does exist and that petition was really his own earnest intention, then kudos to his bravery, albeit it’s a rather foolish bravery. I appreciate the intent but… Why throw away your future NOW?”. You DON’T KNOW that smart kids show up their GUTS early. “Sober” ones like you will remain sober by the time you’ve FILLED your tummy well… And then WILL SURELY SAY… “AH well,,, What the HACK should I risk what I’ve made”!!!
People like you I wouldn’t even want for a friend. As your value is SURELY more in ‘YOURSELF’ than anyone else!!! I’ve many of your kind. Your advice to Ken mat seem wise BUT your are NO challenger to anyone as an adult by the way you write!!!
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CitizenReddot on Thu, 18th Feb 2010 4:36 pm
It is my view that the Electoral Commission should be apolitical.
The working relationship of the EC to PMO should be one of Ministerial “advice to” PM why changes were made and no accountability to the incumbent PM for those changes made. Neither is feedback nor advice from the PMO is to be sought nor warranted in any circumstances. It should be a one-way relationship, not a bilateral consultation relationship because it is about electoral representation, NOT ABOUT GOVERNANCE.
And any boundary changes should only reflect demographic SIZE changes so that the electoral representation (whosoever got elected) adequately reflect the population density shifts it represents i.e. not artificially too big or too small for each single ward.
No political party should have a say on how boundary changes are decided. Politicians should fight on the merits of their policy achievements or failure and nothing else.
And there should be no boundary changes within 3 years from the date of election to discourage frequent gerrymandeering and once that is done, it should not be any boundary changes within the next 2 elections thereafter to provide fair opportunities to all parties to cultivate grassroot support.
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To the person who responded to my comment:
Look, I was just playing the devil’s advocate alright? Why should we just believe blindly that this guy exists when there is no credible proof?? I am not putting the boy down, jeez. I just said I admire his bravery, but I am seriously WORRIED about the boy. We know what the situation here is like and I do not want to see such a promising young man throw into ISD just like that. Young people who care are already such a rarity in Singapore, it’s very sad to see them just be rendered empowerless, you know what I mean?
Jeez, no need to get personal. OK so the guy has balls, and you accuse me of not having balls, but you yourself haven’t done anything, have you? Kamikazee fighters are admirable for their bravery but it is the tacticians who win the war. TRUFAX.
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In any case, I suggest you all dun try to influence this boy. Do not throw him into the fire and get him into trouble lah.
This is very serious matter. Noboy should challenge our Founding Fther like that.
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P.S. Gorbachev did NOT topple down the USSR intentionally. If you studied history deep enough, you’d realise he’s just a lucky pawn/mess-up in the whole scheme of the Cold War. He was inherently a commie but wanted to reform the USSR to adopt antithetical libralism and capitalism. He NEVER wanted to bring down the USSR. But of course, his changes opened the Pandora’s box that eventually led to its demise, basically he screwed up as a commie leader. Why do you think he was usurped by Yeltsin in 1990? The West “crowned” him a hero for defeating USSR for them but in truth it was just a case of “oops you messed up your country, but hey, oh well you helped us defeat communism so here, have a nobel prize”.
Though in all due respect, Gorby rocks because he brought down the number of WMDs back in the 1990s with Reagan. And last point, Gorbachev had power and the means for change (he was the blardy GenSen of USSR hello) and hence he got change (albeit not in the way he wanted
) Similarly, in colonial wars, disorganised peasant rebellions and lone attacks do not bring down the gvt. It is those who slowly climb up the political ladders and stage coups that eventually succeed. Hence my point that while it is noble for a small person to speak out, it is also more effective if one has power to some extent.
Peace out.
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LKY is our founding father? I thought Stanford Raffles was? Or have you been reading different history textbooks?
The only founder LKY will be of is his dynastic political regime.
The rest of Singapore has been built from the blood, sweat and tears of Singaporeans. Stop putting down all our effort to praise a political coward like LKY.
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@ kr on Thu, 18th Feb 2010 9:20 pm
Gorby had not much choice – economic pressure. It is NOT just the WMD deal with Reagan. The arms race was too costly to maintain compared to the financial power of western capitalism could afford. The alternative could be mass starvation.
Much of Soviet military industrial complex was “dismantled” – the amount of scrap metal flooding the market depressed (metal) commodities prices for considerable period after that.
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CitizenReddot,
Hahahahahahahaha…
Actually, this issue is like Kong Ming urging Zhou Yu to break down the armies of Cao Cao at Chi Bi if I were to blog about it.
I can generally say this, the gahmen probably unlikely to import foreigners for the elections, and if the gahmen relies on the influx for election success, it’d drag itself to its own demise. Hahahahahahahaha…
But then and again… A weak opposition won’t stand to gain or lose too much with such changes. To be honest, this influx has always been in my calculation for a migrant state as Singapore.
Which is why I don’t understand… Why people are so excited over such puny factor.
If I feel like blogging about this topic, you’d get to know why. It’s really a small factor in the success of election that won’t change the script.
I look forward to the players to put up an exciting show. Hahahahahahaha…
Hahahahahahaha~
Avoid any fray for such unnecessary triviality. If you want a fray, you will have to start standing for election. But now is not the best time.
Trust me. Wait for the incumbent to surrender powers, become uncompetitive, then all we have left to handle will be motherfuckers and incompetent elements who (eg) will suggest chopping all the trees to unblock views.
At which time, avoid the fray, just watch the show. Hahahahahahahaha…
Move to the position where power will drop into your mouth itself. Let those silly crackpots who can’t even handle basic domestic affairs to fight for powers.
Join me later on to clean up the mess, and I’d make all of you New Fathers of Singapore. Hahahahahahaha…
Another’s mess is one man’s treasure. Hahahahahahaha…
Hahahahahahahahahaha…
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Anonymous>>> Boundary announced,thanks for your post much appreciated.
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Kennith wrote: “As a Singaporean, I felt extremely insulted when our MM made those insensitive remarks. It shows that he is completely out of touch with the ground and shows no compassion for Singaporeans, who have been working hard their whole lives.”
If KLY doesn’t care then he wouldn’t have said anything all. His remarks might be insensitive and hurtful(thats the way how this man work, he have something to say he says it without flowery words), but it is much better know it truth then live in a lie. The last few generations of Singaporeans have worked hard their whole live , but the current youths, like Kennith here, hardly ever or never worked their whole live.
Kennith wrote: “I used to admire him alot. That was before I watch the film One Nation Under Lee in Sec 2 when I learnt of what was really happening in Singapore. That film changed my opinion of him forever. ”
If your opinion can be changed so easily and rapidly then it will change again when someone release another film with a different bias.
Kennith wrote: “Before he came into power, he was preaching about democracy and freedom to the then chief minister David Marshall. But eventually he got so obsessed with power and money that he lost control and changed forever. As the saying goes, “Absolute power corrupts absolutely”, and I think he is a fine example of that quote.”
Different society, under different social and economical criteria needs different time of governance. Some people, like Kennith, believe 100% pure democracy will bring panacea to everyone; that’s absolutely wrong. Look like India, look at Philippine. Singapore build its from almost nothing to today’s most prosperous country in SEA and people from all SEA wants to migrate to it. You might see something wrong with this, others might disagree.
And, KLY said what he said because he cares, the way he said it because he is a straight forward man that doesn’t like to beat around the bushes.
He understand progress Singapore had made and the challenges from within and without that Singapore have to face in the future to maintain a prosperous society. KLY said it bluntly that he believes todays Singaporeans, especially the youths, needs to do more to stay keep Singapore on top. Some people might not like this truth but it is the truth.
Countries in East Asia and SEA are developing/learning fast now.
In the end, the only losers will be Singaporeans, if its citizens doesn’t know or take up the challenges.
That’s KLY is afriad AND that’s why he said what he said.
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I wonder if Kenneth’s parents are opposition party leaders?
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Raffles was the founder of the port of Singapore or the crown colony Singapore.
LKY is usually credited as the founder of Modern Singapore or Republic of Singapore.
Which History book you read in school? You study here or JB?
Kenneth wrote in his blog during CNY, he is a distant relative of LKY, maybe his stance will suddenly change now.
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Na, boy could be PAP plant.
With GE expected, PAP will use this petition to show that LKY is no Marcos, or the N Korean Kims. I.e. He ain’t as bad as what Dr Chee, SDP try to portray him.
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Elfred>>>>>>>>>>>>.your post is confusing and has to be stripped to its bare core to be understood.Eventually I got the message but would that be a possibility????? I dread the day a bunch of incompetent A..H… runs the show and would the damage be so great that it would be beyond redemption with the possibility of chaos and invasion???But then China did survive many disasters and the Art of War is still a best seller in National and Business world.
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Spartacus>>>>> your one liners are thought provoking and food for thought but sadly receive poor response as it will kill the subject immediately.Mystery and sensation draws readership read anonymous’ posts and learn to live & let live we can’t change the world but at least we can make it more interesting and broaden our limited knowledge.
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I don’t think the boy is a PAP plant. There are some local so-called opposition politicians though.. who might better serve your description.
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CitizenReddot,
Again, as in YP forum, allow henceforth the future to explain on my behalf. Hahahahahahahahaha…
Hahahahahahahahahaha…
Given the right people the PM has chosen, this is the path, and we must react accordingly to the path taken.
China will always be there… But dynasties have become extinct. Hahahahahahahahahaha…
Singapore, if you definition is the current people, they know not what they are entering into. War… If everyone has enough, why should anyone fight?
But then, since the tragedy of the Second World War, is there ever a degree of enough in the present?
But it is not as how you see it from my rants… But for China, China’s Art Of War is always a best seller across times where many kingdoms were defeated and Sun took out the last of the dynasties making use of Yuen.
CitizenReddot, don’t you still get it?
China, Singapore… It’s still with the mankind. Look at Obama. Is he not telling you a glaring story? Hahahahahahahaha…
China… The magnitude of the problem once you let it run will be beyond the central’s control. And there is no such limits as to the greed and beautiful women to be fucked to restrain the lure of corruptions. Skies are the limits, and hell is where idiotic governance shall head for. As the corruption hits new heights now… Given the need to fill the so many hunger for money within the factions, how could they churn out more money?
The last blood of the people… and foreign assisted revolution will be on the card. By then, laws and authority of the central government will be useless against hunger and sufferings across vast areas of many huge groups of people.
China’s economic policy-making and governance shocks me. Years back, if the central government had been smarter, do you think Elfred would even get to return to Singapore? Hahahahahahahahahahaha… I’d be already there to ensure a proper growth and strict governance structure…
Regretably speaking… I can still ‘contribute’ significantly to China’s governance now… saved that the premier is no longer strong enough to contain situation.
Frankly speaking, natural disasters are coming… again. GOD always have it coming. Once enough people starve, and have enough… Given USA’s deficits, these blackholes will collapse upon themselves. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha…
And they will drag Singapore into it.
Do you really think that the casinos will aid domestic political stability? Well… Just wait for the tycoons to see their sons and in-laws making waves at the casinos… seeing those wealth vanishing suddenly. Now the casinos are just next door. Any tycoons who advocate the casinos once have enough of casualties of their own will want them shut down.
I know the power of gambling all too well… … No matter how restrained you are, what about your in-laws, your children or your grandchildren… …? Hahahahahahahahaha…
Hahahahahahahahahaha…
The damage will be enough to rock… the world.
If Obama has no more ways to borrow for an even larger deficits… what about those European banks now hanging themselves almost dead? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha…
And how can global trading be ‘reliable’ on LCs and such based on such ridiculous credit situation? See?
How great do you want it to be? Hahahahahahahaha…
And what can Singapore do with its reserves and currencies? Increase the supply? Restrict the supply? But don’t forget… Wealth effect in Singapore has been artificially pumped too high.
China is not the only fool who has thought it can do well without Elfredian involvement. Look at Japan… One small car problem, and the figure dives. It shows the sensitivity and the weakness of Japan’s recent celebration over their economy.
Without talents… All the best to those states.
And then, it’d be our time. Time for us to clean up the mess. People will have to choose out of their own interests… To join me and escalate themselves to new height, or to throw themselves and their wealth… into a mess. The option is actually very simple.
With me, you can become another New Father of Singapore. Without me, you’d head into chaos. Choose. Hahahahahahaha…
Anyway, there is still plenty of time. For now, just sit back and relax. There is no need for you or others to know too much of what you can’t handle.
Come July, Singapore should be expecting a major scandal… I am monitoring. Hehehehehe~
Hehehehehehehehe~ Come, join me, and watch the show.
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Elfred>>>> mind boggling and “Notrademic” I definitely will seat back relax and watch the show but there are many that are struggling to make ends meet.
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Elfred>>>>> sorry “Notrademic” is a coin for Nostrademus Prophecies.
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CitizenReddot,
On PAP’s side, it’s the PM’s problem. He chose this path for himself, I know he was online reading, so… Only he has the power to direct the government into whichever direction. After all, with MM around, Jayakumar and Tony Tan and tons of others will rally around him.
If he cannot do it, the next PM without MM will be sitting ducks to those casualties; people will vote him or her out, and that’s the end of PAP and a new page for Singapore’s history.
For the oppositions, they will have to wait for the PAP to surrender powers, to discard talents and eventually invite them to form a viable gahmen to consolidate power. The current oppositions are… Aiyah~ No eyes to see…
For us…
For me, I have already made it clear. The conditions to involve my expertise in governance at such time for PAP is basically 1. The MM must pay his visit and convince me that this party he has started is not prepared to be expended; 2. The Education Ministry must be mine as a channel to enter politics. Otherwise, since Singapore is heading for deep shits… As a state doctor, I’d make an offer of service with discount at around $4m for a 2 years dealing. Any states needing help can come to my blog providing their case for consideration.
Whether they take it or not, is NOT my problem. They will have to choose. Coming to the state doctor at the eleventh hour, at the point that things become obvious… is mission impossible. I don’t deal with impossible situations.
As for you. Just sit back and wait out. Trust me. There are more issues than Falun Gung and those Tibetian armed militants in China… Hahahahahahahahaha… If you can’t handle foreign issues, concentrate on domestic affairs. When I become a minister, you can bet those big states to be coming to Singapore for free advise.
Who the fuck wanna be disposed off?
Alot of things have to wait… Regretably so. I also want to help those Singaporeans. I also want to help Badawir to remain in control. I also wanna avert the disaster in Obama’s regime (I have suggested to MM that if Obama falls… … Frankly speaking, just too bad for Obama).
But what can I do?
The people have to choose. The PM has to choose his leaders as in the other election. Obama has to choose for himself, to save his Euors 1b fee or not. Badawir will have to choose to survive from day 1.
Situation has not come for an option for us to do anything. GOD wants us to wait. So we wait. I was watching patiently for the whole screw-ups for more than 5 years.
More than 5 years… Do you know how much my mouth is worth?
This gahmen wishes to make such huge multi-billion losses, and save its $1000+ teaching salary… What can we do? If not to be the New Father of Singapore… I might not even bother to wait and see if the next PM is a donkey or is a hope.
Obama wanna withdraw troops AGAIN. And he said he needs to talk to Russia… Hahahahahahaha… This world is going to be a very very interesting place.
Join me later after this show, and we’d all be New Fathers of Singapore. I am sad for those struggling to make ends meet… But precisely because of them, we who can really make things work must be very careful. Moving out now is… mostly a waste of time. Even if MM comes miraculously to invite… Given the thick layers… I’d be surprised if I can do my job.
Though entering politics earlier has an advantage. If we can establish earlier, by the time MM departs… chance of making it increases.
Consider all issues… We wait. You also must wait. The car must crush. That’s the path the PM has chosen, we must let him finish this path on his own accord. Don’t attack any sides, and pray for MM to remain since… we want the mess, we need it to be contained. After all, watching all these mess grow is better with stability. Boring life, hence wait, is way better than being in a chaos…
Hahahahahahahahahaha…
Soon, actually in about a decade or more, USA is going to have an energy crunch… Know the world beyond and before, and alot of things can be done… if you have the calibre.
To let you know… I was actually thinking of Singapore making huge profits from the tier-3 assets crisis… Hahahahahahaha… Well… Singapore chose. I respect its choice.
Nothing mind boggling, CitizenReddot. At least with the New Father of Singapore around, the future is not uncertain. Isn’t it? Hahahahahahahahahahaha…
Hahahahahaha…
But to see things as the New Father of Singapore, ie without the confusion and such… Well…
Do you know how huge the bubble is in Hong Kong, and the financing of the now put-away funds China has got for the people? Hahahahahahaha… That’s mind boggling. It’s just pure excitment.
If I keep my mouth shut… States will crush. The power of a thinker. A real thinker, ie. Some contract are still dripping from Brazil and those mediterrans but… Hahahahahahahahaha…
Hahahahahahahahahaha…
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha…
Just watch the show. We can only do what we can do. The fun part of domestic affairs is that the sharks are not moving out yet. MM will not get to see the exciting Mamouth hunt.
We are lucky. We get to witness such historical events… Such as a clueless Eunice can even exist in parliament. Hahahahahahahahaha… How can the people not struggle to make ends meet? They are paying clueless people to handle their lives, to fix undertable… economically speaking, if a boss prefers unproductive elements to brew troubles for his company, then you can expect all the Reds.
It’s that the way to hire people? Hiring loyal people so that they help you to lay waste to your regime, then they become loyal to the new regime… It happened all the times across history.
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I don’t believe in Prophencies…
I only believe in reasonings.
Prophecies need no explainations nor thinking.
When Bush began his presidency days, it is not prophecy I told people ‘Iraq is finished…’. Bush is an aristocratic chap, a naive and yet… highly ambitious ‘kid’ who has little concern towards moral given his smooth life. Iraq to him was simply must-die enemy, and USA a weapon.
Once you know a person, you can gauge the outcome.
Obama… This guy doesn’t know finance. He is a great speaker, he knows what bother Americans, he knows to lend strength from influencial members of the senate. But if you observe carefully his speech…
Naive. He wanted this, he wanted that… but he doesn’t even understand the order of wanting which, and the possibilities of what each want is, and the risks. A person like himself wanna be the best black president making history, he wants to be respected but… the big problem is, he can’t do anything. He can’t even properly assign personnels. Hence his big ambition with good intents… goes nowhere.
He now wants to cut jobless rate… Hahahahahahahahaha… What if, I say IF, during the deficits driven jobless-cutting measures, the global financial system is under attack?
And now, he gave up the competition in NASA programs.
Hmmm… … What prophecy do you expect from Elfred? Hahahahahahahahahaha… Use your brain, and alot of things will become like those germs under a microscope.
China’s Wen also doesn’t understand state economics. The puzzle is, he also doesn’t understand the need to get real help.
I am a thinker, not a prophet. Which is why I retired from YP before YP makes too much news for itself, and disappeared for a while so that Ser Luck and the police he has brought in can have their time.
Notrademic… How interesting. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha…
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kenneth. you can be the next president of singapore in the near future.
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I think this “boy’ is very naive and too sensitive/defensive.
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Elfred>>>>>>>>> thank you for an insight of worldly affairs.Appreciate greatly and definitely more thinking than prophesy on your part.
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Do the rest of us a favour. Go away & adulate each other somewhere else. The rest of us don’t need to hear the 2 of you kissing each others ass***.
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CitizenReddot,
One reply to you seem to be missing here. I wonder why. Hahahaha…
Perhaps technical error, perhaps censorship. Who knows.
Perhaps your comments have also been deleted or what.
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Hello folks,
The petition to call for our LKY has already gotten 200+ signatures liao without a short time.
Thanks for those who support this call by a 15 yr old kenneth lin.
For all those folks haven’t sign , pls go to his petition article and voluntarily sign. we just need anther 200 + more signatures to reach 500 signatures to kick start the change of Siingapore.
Folks, if you are truly native born singaporeans, really want to play a part and help change our singapore, pls do go and sign the petition! And see our future and next generation future have a Change in our pollitical climate goverance…
Pls support ya!!! I urge everyone here play your part!! Thanks again.
VOTE ALL PAPPIES OUT! VOTE FOR CHANGE! VOTE FOR NEW GOVT!
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My friends when MM Lee Kuan Yew came into power most of us of post World War II generation were in our teens like this young man Kenneth Lin.During the 1959 days on till the fading off the Old Guards PAP, Lee Kuan Yew was a Rising Star of East Asian Leadership much like a Nelson Mandela !Toady as time went on with almost entirely a One Party Country we must respect and admire sucha young fellow speaking forthrightly his heart mind and soul,Singaporeans and Friends at Home and Abroad of Singapore need not agree with Kenneth’s criticism,but then in DEmocratic Countries we must heed the Philosophy Of Voltaire” I may disagree vehemently with what you say, but I will defend to the death your Right to say it leh ! “Never in Human History has there been a better committment to the Democratic Process as that of Monsieur Voltaire !And Kenneth Lin is a young and up-coming practitioner of it ! Bravo for being Courageous !Be respectful but fearless leh !
Gerald Heng Sr.
Greater Boston,MA,USA
[Quitter and Squatter abroad since 1963 and post talak break-up of Merger]
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From my experience with ISD, there will be peace and quiet for a while for this kid. Nevertheless after ISD had gather enough information the school in which Kenneth is in will see changes in the management. Perhaps the present P will be posted away and a new P carefully selected by ISD with MOE will replace the present P. Then things will be tough for Kenneth. He will most probably forced to leave the school and go to a private school instead. Again the use of money is their weapon. If you got no money you will be the losing end. That is how the PAP works all these 50 years of rule. That is why the civil servants are so well paid.
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I applaud Kenneth for his ‘courage’ and indeed, Singapore has to change. But this change everyone’s talking about should not be pointing fingers at each other as it would only lead to more problems. “What change are you talking about that will only make us better” is the question we should ponder. That goes the same for the ruling party – no matter who becomes in the future.
We are not dealing with any issue at all. It would only make us look unintelligent and ignorant when we and our next generation looks back next time.
I would encourage every Singaporean to be constructive, not disruptive. Instead of shooting at others fault, look at what needs to be done and how we can improve. Singapore in some aspects, is certainly controlled and this needs to be changed.
It is possible.
Look at Taiwan, they used to be authoritarian, people get silenced the next day as seen in the famous 228 incident. Today, people are free to voice about everything and meanwhile, burn dummies of president. I think we wouldn’t want that to happen either. It only makes us seem violent, immature and repulsive.
Whichever party takes over Singapore, remember, we must be sensible and vow not to fight each other. History has taught us too many lessons from other countries we must not never learn.
Right now, I believe in a balanced society. It should be in the legislation – Singapore at any point of time, will have two ruling parties with equal percentage of votes. This is unlike the UK or similar parliamentary systems . The topic for example, “every Singaporean male should undertake National Service for a year.” The ruling party and opposition parties each hold 50% of decision making. It will entirely up to every single one of them to choose whatever they want. That goes for the same for the people who supports their own party. For instance, someone of Party A supports the idea brought up by Party B. That person of Party A is able to vote for B’s idea with absolutely no restrictions or obligations. This is what I called free and unbiased voting system.
The golden rule – The ruling party should listen and the opposition should be allowed to offer will Singapore become a fairer place to live.
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Elfred>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. Your guess is as good as mine,live “N” let live leh.
Familiarity breeds contempt, so what the F…. we are entitled to our say regardless, unless TR thinks otherwise.
F**K**>>>> thank you and the same to you.
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GCW Heng>>>>>>>>> All the way from USA to comment at your age????you must have sentimental feelings after all these years.
VOLTAIRE; “I may disagree vehemently with what you say,but I will defend to the death your RIGHT to say it leh!”….SPOT ON “see beh choon” and Mr. Heng you have not lost you “Singlish”
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For those readers who commented that this boy’s message is scripted , I pray , do tell me , whose public speech in Singapore is not scripted?
Scripted or not it is irrelevant but more importantly message is sent.
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PAP can last at another 2 GEs.
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GCW Heng on Sun, 21st Feb 2010 7:25 am,
You quitter should mind your own problem. It’s non of your business here.
Are your banks still paying obscene bonus to leeches? Is your so-called regulator still in cahoots with these leeches?
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Kenneth is a poor misguided child. Which idiot misguide him with all the one-sided propaganda?
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Hi Caring Singaporeans,
I like to shamefully tell you the general consensus is that we Muslims are like comatose patients, given sedatives and not sensitive the the the doctors touch. Thank you non Muslim Singaporeans who carte to defend your fellow Singaporeans. What dont know what hit uys sometimes because we are busy building tents at the beach or busy lining up for imaginary jobs.
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so many hypocrites here say they salute or admire the boy and etc..truth is they will be the first ones to distance themselves and suck up on PAP when trouble brews
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C’MON FOLKS
THE HEAT IS STARTING VERY FAST LIAO. PPL HAS BEEN GOING TO KENNETH LIN PETITION EVERY MINIUTE AND SECOND. CURRENTLY REACH TO 230 LIAO. ANOTHER 270 SIGNATURES CAN KICK START THE AGENDA LIAO.
WE NEED TO SEE A NEW GOVT FORMING. WE NEED TO REFORM SINGAPORE. WE NEED BIG CHANGE. AND THIS IS THE KICK-START CHANGE. PLS SUPPORT KENNETH LIN. PLS VOLUNTARILY SIGN UP YA!
VOTE FOR CHANGE! VOTE FOR REFORM! VOTE FOR NEW GOVT! THROW OUT ALL PAPPIES AND MULTI-MILLION DOLLARS MINISTARS!!
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Kenneth is a good well-read child. Singapore will do well to have more youngsters like him who care to find out the whole truth.
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A 15 year-old spoke politics of the nation whose citizenry refused to display nation’s flag on national day (except those put up by foreign workers and paid for by RC) across most parts of my country, ARE THESE COLLECTIVE SYMPTOMS NOT TELLING ENOUGH that this divided ( by who you know) nation IS DISINTEGRATING FAST AND SOMETHING DRASTICALLY HAS GONE BADLY WRONG??
Is living in denial a solution to our nation’s anguish, problems, sense of loss of direction, loss of hope AND A VERY PUBLIC DISPLAY OF NO CONFIDENCE by our youth in its leadership?
Forget a cooling off day period, rational minds would have made their decision before polling day is called. Only delusional fools believe otherwise.
There is NO ILLUSION in my mind that this nation is crying out loudly, publicly and shamelessly FOR CHANGE.
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@ Comatose
Muslims got to come out of their shell and view Singapore as a place for all Singaporeans, and not feel that Muslims are a rejected and insignificant lot on this island. You are right to make the call to them that life here is not just to pitch tents at the beaches and waiting for an (imaginary) job to fall on them.
They got to come out and start kicking arses like what the rest of Singaporeans are doing. We got to work together as a united people to remove obsolete and irrelevant people in the government for the common good of all.
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I agree with the 2nd post… I believe this kenneth guy is not as ‘good’ as he appeared to be… someone must be behind him pulling the major strings for him… Because from experience… normally for a 15 year old kid… they will be more into having fun and enjoying life… they will be into gaming/soccer/BGRs… Soccer and gaming especially for boys… unless this 15 yr old is a special one or to put it not so nicely a not so normal one… ( I didn’t get to read every comments cos there are too many but from what I see most people were for the 15 yr old… I myself like the idea but I don’t think it will make any differences…)
Just my views…
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FOLKS,
THANKS FOR SUPPORTING KENNETH LIN YA. SO HEARTENED NOT JUST SINGAPOREANS IS SUPPORTING, EVEN EURASIAN, MUSLIMS START TO SUPPORT THIS CALL PETITION. THE LATEST UPDATE IS 240 SIGNATURES LIAO…
PLS FOLKS, GET YOUR AH MA, AH GONG, WHOLE FAMILY , RELATIVES, FRIENDS TO GO TO KENNETH LIN ARTICLE AND CLICK PETITION, AND VOLUNTARILY SIGNED UP YA. TIME IS RUNNING OUT FROM OUR SIDE ALREADY.
WE NEED TO KICK START FROM SOMEWHERE. AND KENNETH LIN IS THE FIRST KICK-UP TO THE PAPPIES INSIDE!1
VOTE FOR CHANGE! VOTE FOR NEW GOVT!
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protest>>>>>>>>>> the way you promote kenneth lin who in my mind still is a phantom I am wondering if you are the mysterious kenneth lin himself?
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Why need people come here beg for signatures? Each time 2-3 more signature happy like strike toto.
Aiya, just tikam some name from phone book la. Nobody will know. If too lazy, put anonymous also can.
But remember copy and paste some comments. If all comments empty, very obvious one. Then lao kui.
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@ CitizenReddot on Mon, 22nd Feb 2010 8:07 pm
You raised an interesting question. It prompts me to read through the posts of “protest”. The inference I got is that “protest” is NOT Kenneth Lin or unlikely to be so.
My reasons are -
a) the writing styles are different between them
b) “protest” key message objective is consistently “Change” while Kenneth Lin is upset looking for a apology – NOT CHANGE,
c) if “protests” is Kenneth Lin, he is more likely to speak in the same logic instead of a support advocacy role his posts seem to indicate.
d) given the maturity of kids these days of rigorous learning, it is NOT by any means out of reasonable bounds of possibility a 15-year old could have this political orientation even if he/she is not thoroughly informed of global affairs. Just imagine it must be unthinkable for older generation to believe school girls under 12 are having sex with school boys – unthinkable of any parent, educators and society just 5 years ago. Kids now mature faster than they age. And don’t forget General Paper in Pre-University classes include politics topics as well some 30 years ago!!!.
But you can have contrary opinion to all these.
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Replying to………. CitizenReddot And also Kenneth is a misguided 15yo poor thing,
Of course i am for sure i am not Kenneth Lin. The reason I post is just a reminder to all Singaporeans who keep on feeling frustrating and helpless in situations that they couldn’t help it at all.
Since there is someone out there who is willing to start the ball rolling, and having after 50years under an oppressive environment we are living, won’t u ppl want to foresee something and give it a go????
Or is it all of you are just here to whine and frustrates , that’s all.
I state my point, only those folks who truly want to see a Change, go to his petition article and support. As for those who just want to continue to frustrate your emotions , it’s your choice.. No one is forcing anyone to sign as i say it is fro those who truly want to see a kick start Change in singapore if we really love our country and fellow men who are suffering right now….
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Btw, after making this calling, already till to date is 247 signatures liao. Effective right? At first the signatures stuck at 223, but after making that call one more time, the signatures start to pour in again.
Thanks for supporting this 15yr old boy Kenneth Lin. Though i don’t know him personally and have never seen his face personally but i believe he is sincere and he really love his own country and proud to be Singaporeans and he really want to see there is change coming…
So do those who truly want to see Singapore have a new change. There is always hope…Don’t give up…
To reach democracy , always a very long and rough path to go thru it wan lah….just hang on, push a bit, kick up the agenda, some change will surely comes in.
It’s time folks. Vote for Change! Yes we can!
Btw, last but not least, kenneth lin dont need beggars to help , he needs givers to lend the support.
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Aiyah,
never mind lah. I am one of the people’s power also mah. If someone as young as 15 yr old is stepping forward to speak on behalf for so many ppl here where so many ppl may not have the courage to even do it, so since someone present himelf, so give him the chance and opportunity to perform.
Who knows he may the one who is the ‘Saviour’ of singapore??? Never bet, never know the outcome lah…
So VOTE FOR CHANGE! VOTE FOR CHANGE!
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@CitizenReddot on 8:07pm,
Well, some folks may think that what is the big hoo-ha here to keep on shouting for signatures to be signed…
Give me a chance to explain. I definitely not Kenneth Lin which anonoymous has spot it correctly and given it the reply to citizenreddot.
My main thought is, if there is someone out there, who cares whether is 15yr old or 80yr old, as long as he got that courage and boldness to step forward and speak on behalf for so many singaporeans which a lot of singaporeans may not have the guts to take this challenge, so why not give this boy a chance to prove his stand and stance and performance??? And who knows he may be the ‘SAVIOUR’ for singaporeans??? U never make the last bet, never know the outcome!! And i definitely welcome and support this call! Why not!
So folks, no matter what , i will still continue to make this call, currently the signatures is running…… For those who truly want to see Change in our country, kindly go and sign, for those who just wanna to vent their frustrations here and watch the show, you may continue…
VOTE FOR CHANGE! YES WE CAN!
Note : BTW, FOLKS THINK CAREFULLY , THOSE 247 SIGNATURES, DO U TINK THEY ARE DAFT TO SIGN SINCE YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE YOUR REAL I/C NO??? ANSWERS : BECOS THEY LOVE SINGAPORE!
VOTE FOR CHANGE! VOTE FOR CHANGE!
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Thank You Citizen Reddot ! Monsieur Voltaire was one of the great inspirations during British Whitehall Imperialism for the then Young Lee Kuan Yew of PAP to speak up and advocate his Party Viion and in the 1959 and forward he was the thorn at the sides of Lim Yew Hock and even the late Ambassador David Marshall,he also be-friended his Mnadarin Fiery Counterpart partner Orator Lim Chin iong of the TUC !David Marhall used to carry a Hammer as his Labour Front Workers Party Symbol,Mr Lee spoke of knuckle-dusters of thee Singapore Triads !Let us hope Citizen Reddot and Ah Kong will get a huge vindication in the years ahead, we are beyond the ISA and ISD Era and Our Singaporean deserve to be loved for collectively over the Years give him and the PAP the Sovereign Right to govern and rule Singaporeans ! Our Leadership must change with the times as a modus operandi in sustaining the Community of Values and Affection known in Malay as Ruku Negara in the Commonwealth and Commonhealth of Singaporeans at home and abroad.Our Branches of our Growing Trees may grow anywhere else and at home, but our Roots are firmly rooted in the Peranakan Tanah Ayer dan Udara Sri-Temasek leh ! People see things as they are and say Why ? I see things as somwhat differently I say ” Why Not a Monsieur Voltaire’s philosophy in our Political Discourse without fear, favour or frivolity ! Let us begin as we have always done since the 1950’s !
Gerald Heng Sr.
Greater Boston,MA. USA
[Quitter & Squatter since 1963 and there after in 1965 after Talak Merger Break-up of the Mainland from Sri-Temasek]
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Don’t worry LKY is old now and he’ll die anytime soon. I remembered he once said, “Building casinos in Singapore? Over my dead body”. So guys don’t worry he’ll die pretty soon after cursing himself. He is PAP’s dragon head, once the head is being cut off the body will disintegrate. Let’s wait things will change after he dies. I’m not cursing him, so please do not misinterpret me. I used to respect him very much as my Nation’s father. Now? No more cos he is disgusting the way he treats the fellow countrymen. History really teaches us, absolute power corrupts and LKY, who used to have so much passion for nation building is no longer now. Self interest, pride and power seem to have dominated his vision.
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TR-admin>> any reason why my post in response to Anonymous,protest & GWC Heng was not posted?
Elfred>>>Deja Vu
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Repeat post>>
Anonymous>>>>point taken
protest>>>>>>apologies if you are not KL he is still a phantom as far as I am concern
GWC Heng>>>>Your posts are most welcome even though you were a Q & S,leaving your full style and insights to what Singapore & Malaysia was like during your time with constructive comments unlike others who left and criticize Singapore and its people with malice.As for LKY he is pass expiry date any criticism is justified after 1991 especially the past three years.
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Replying to CitizenReddot @3:46pm,
Hahaha…No worries, citizenreddot, you are still my kaki lah, one of the true blue singaporeans.
Btw, if you wanna to support kenneth lin petition call, pls do voluntarily sign up, and also if u can get ppl to support the petition call of Kenneth Lin, kindly do so also, if not, that’s fine.
VOTE FOR CHANGE! VOTE FOR NEW GOVT TO RISE UP! VOTE FOR REFORM!
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Greetings ! Just a reminder, Monsieur Voltaire was not only a Philosopher of de Enlightenment Era of John Locke and Jean Jacque Russeau ,he was the one that characteristically made that Clarion Call to the Democratic Process about defending to the death your right to say whatever,yet Voltaire to this day and age is a very human romantique figure,he wrote to his lover directly to the point ” I love you with my prick and heart I love to kiss your arse ! “Here’s humanity seeking consentual sex like free love without blemishes ! Bravo !
GCW Heng Sr.
Greater Boston,MA.USA
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Folks in the cyberspace,
Kenneth Lin petition call has been hijacked by two ppl there trying to thwart the petition call.
Anyway, just GIVE A BIG IGNORE!!! The petition call from Kenneth Lin is to voice out for all singaporeans.
The petition call signing up is only for those who support it! GET IT FOLKS! ITS ONLY FOR THOSE WHO SUPPORT THAT PETITION CALL!!! Not for those who try to discourage it and pull down this petition call!
Follks, come on now. Take a step by faith. GO, GO , GO!!! Voluntarily support it as there are still many supporters supporting this petition call in a DAILY BASIS…..
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I must get my kids to learn from him, otherwise our country will be destroyed by the greedy, arrogant, selfish, son-of-b, tyrants!
Boy Boy, don’t worry, LKY does not have long to live anymore. I have champagne ready to celebrate with you when the day comes very soon.
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Finally, there’s a real man growing and standing up in Singapore in the sea of emasculates.
You go Kenneth Lin.
Be careful of the Old Bustard though. He’s a real Hitler.
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Chin chye la, beggars still want to choose meh. Whatever, this is call freedom of speech what.
The polling software got minus them off when the comment not in support meh? If people put their name down, still count inside the 500, right? Close one eye loh. So serious for what? If really so serious, then minus all the anonymous no comment one loh. Who knows they real or not?
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Aiyah,
Where got chin-chye wan? Anyone who put names or even no name or even no comments, must also add their real i/c no. hor… Dont forget, real i/c number included one hor…
You think this ppl who sign up play ‘masak masak’ meh???
Answer : No! They meant business!!! Becos they want to save their own coutry before it is too late!
Vote for Change! Vote for new govt to rise up!!!!
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Alamak, got people put real ic huh? Then they cham liao la. They ever ask their heart, they know who Kenneth or not? Sekali Kenneth is a trap. Wah seh, good luck to signers. Either mark, or ic get used in con jobs.
Btw, you up to date or not? How many ic number you want? Internet got program give you random ic number. You can put in 1000 signs.
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Well,,
This is a voluntarily sign up. A petition article call by Kenneth Lin ,15yr old boy, never read his article properly meh??? Go read one more time, if never read carefully …..
Kenneth Lin is a real person in face. His face is already out , don’t know meh? It looks exactly the age of his own face, 15yr old!
Go and do the research oneself and update it hor…..No spoonfeeding here…
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@Kenneth is a misguided 15yo poor thing
That was a damn wise observation and good point.
During the Cultural Revolution of 1964/5 in China, Mao Tze Tung proclaimed to “let a thousand flowers bloom”, inviting all thinkers and the literati to rise up and contribute with their political thoughts and views. And guess what? It was followed immediately by the great purge. All who responded innocently were purged, either thrown into prison on trumped up charges, or executed. Deng Xiao Peng was among the unlucky ones who ended in the lock-up (but as everyone know by now, he was the real great leader of China and not his predecessor who was instrumental for setting the path for its economic development, which has leap-froged since).
Beware the pits as you traverse in snake infested lands. Show your support but never give your personal details.
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There again i says, those who sign up are not those who play ‘masak masak’ wan.
Real I/c number being input is to show that they are really sick and tired of the current systems liao lah. So they support it then…
PPL want change now. They got no time for ‘masak masak’ like your ah gong, ah mah ’s time! pls wake up!!!!
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To Fools Like Us @ 11.45pm,
There is no such thing of show support and dont give true identity. These are called COWARDS!!! Pretend to show support in lip service but just there to watch shows, that’s is hypocrisy! And that is no support at all!
Truth is : Either you support garnered with your true identity or you don’t support which needs not your true identity!!! It’s the same as , either you are on the winning side, or you are on the losing side, no middle ground testing at all!
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@protest
Do you understand what is meant by “beware the pits as you traverse in snake infested lands” ?
It means beware of entrapment.
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@ Fools llike us@,
Sorry, i reali don’t get what u mean? Are you saying that kenneth is fake??? Kindly enlighten me.
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@Fools like us,
Sorry i reali cannot catch what you trying to bring across the message. Can put a bit layman terms or not? Are u saying Kenneth Lin is a fake, non-existence person?? Do enlighten me.
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Kudos to Kenneth. Screw you, LKY.
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