Four Major Hurdles Faced By Our Jobless Matured PMETs

 
Introduction
  
According to the latest statistical report on  March  2010, our unemployment rate has fallen from the previous quarter of 3.3% to 3.2%.
 
Employment also rose from  2.990 million to 3.024 million-  an increase of 34, 000 jobs in the first quarter, the third quarterly increase after  two quarters of decrease in the first half of 2009 (see Table 1: source mom.gov.sg)
 
More importantly, of the 34,000-job increase, a sizeable 31,2000 came from the service sector – most probably due to the strong hiring from our two integrated resorts.  Manfacturing added another 3,400 jobs to the overall job increase.  
 
Traditionally, these two sectors employ alot of foreign workers due to  the  lower cost factor and that many Singaporeans tend to shy away from such labour-intensive menial  work. It is unsure how many Singaporeans have been employed in these two major job-increase sectors as there is no available data  coming from the government.
 
Table 1: Employment
                                                                                                    (In Thousands)
  Employment Change Employment Level as at
Mar 2010P
1Q 09 2Q 09 3Q 09 4Q 09 1Q 10P
Total* -6.2 -7.7 14.0 37.5 34.0 3,024.0
Manufacturing -22.1 -15.9 -6.4 0.7 3.4 545.9
Construction 8.3 4.7 7.4 4.6 -0.8 384.2
Services 7.5 3.8 12.7 31.5 31.2 2,072.8
P: Preliminary estimates
*: Total includes agriculture, fishing, quarrying, utilities and sewerage & waste management
Data may not add up due to rounding
 
 A total of 1,500 workers were also retrenched and 500 contracts terminated during this period resulting in a total number of 2, 100 workers made redundant (see Table 2).  This was comparable to the 2,220 workers made redundant in the previous quarter and was only 16% of the record 12,760 workers affected in the first quarter of 2009.
  

 Table 2: Redundancy

 

 Last updated: 30 April 2010

 

 
 
1999
2000
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
Annual
14,620
11,620
25,840
19,090
16,400
10,190
10,290
12,600
7,680
13,920
20,160
n.a.
1st Qtr
3,400
6,050
3,250
4,860
4,410
2,960
2,170
3,650
1,960
2,270
10,900
1,600p
 2nd Qtr
3,350
1,860
5,630
4,090
5,140
2,060
2,120
3,260
1,920
1,800
5,170
n.a.
3rd Qtr
3,400
1,760
8,370
4,190
4,060
1,970
2,810
2,470
1,830
2,350
2,110
n.a.
4th Qtr
4,480
1,970
8,590
5,950
2,780
3,210
3,200
3,220
1,970
7,500
1,980
n.a.

Source: Labour Market Survey

  Employment Change Employment Level as at
Mar 2010P
1Q 09 2Q 09 3Q 09 4Q 09 1Q 10P
Total* -6.2 -7.7 14.0 37.5 34.0 3,024.0
Manufacturing -22.1 -15.9 -6.4 0.7 3.4 545.9
Construction 8.3 4.7 7.4 4.6 -0.8 384.2
Services 7.5 3.8 12.7 31.5 31.2 2,072
  1Q 09 2Q 09 3Q 09 4Q 09 1Q 10P
Redundancy 12,760 5,980 2,470 2,220 2,100
Retrenchment 10,900 5,170 2,110 1,980 1,600
Early Release of Contract Workers
  Employment Change Employment Level as at
Mar 2010P
1Q 09 2Q 09 3Q 09 4Q 09 1Q 10P
Total* -6.2 -7.7 14.0 37.5 34.0 3,024.0
Manufacturing -22.1 -15.9 -6.4 0.7 3.4 545.9
Construction 8.3 4.7 7.4 4.6 -0.8 384.2
Services 7.5 3.8 12.7 31.5 31.2 2,072
Redundancy 12,760 5,980 2,470 2,220 2,100
Retrenchment 10,900 5,170 2,110 1,980 1,600
Early Release of Contract Workers 1,860 810 350 250 500
Redundancy 12,760 5,980 2,470 2,220 2,100
Retrenchment 10,900 5,170 2,110 1,980 1,600
Early Release of Contract Workers 1,860 810 350 250 500

  

  1Q 09 2Q 09 3Q 09 4Q 09 1Q 10P
Redundancy 12,760 5,980 2,470 2,220 2,100
Retrenchment 10,900 5,170 2,110 1,980 1,600
Early Release of Contract Workers 1,860 810 350 250 500

 

Unemployed Middle-Aged PMETs

  

Contrary to the uplifting economic recovery, I have been receiving alot of emails lately from PMETs seeking  career advice from our organisation.

 

Many of them belonged to the vulnerable age group of 40s – 50s.  Many are  also breadwinners  with young dependents and a home mortgage to boot.

 

It seems that even the recent economic boost of a double-digit growth could not arrest the escalating unemployment trend of our middle-aged PMETs. Many of these PMETs come armed with impressive degrees and a few accompanied by  MBAs.  Their resumes  glowed  with decades of working experience in senior positions but  sadly they remained jobless for many months some even for more than a year.

 

It is  amazing  to see that no employer is willing to take them on board even though they have slash their asking price by more than half of their former last-drawn salary.  

 

One PMET previously working in the construction industry   as a business consultant told me he managed to find work in a non-profit organisation after pulling some strings. His pay was a mere 25% of his last drawn salary and he is on a contractual basis.

 

“What can I do Gilbert?” he lamented. “I am already 59 years old.”

 

Under employment is also a major issue here as experienced middle-aged PMETs watered down their resume in the hope of  getting a lower position on offer. They also know that senior managers conducting the job interview will feel threatened if they employ someone with better qualifications and work experience than them.

 

Sensing that their own country is not appreciative of their skills and knowledge, many  PMETs have decided to work and live abroad when the opportunity arises. We all know too well by now that recently more than 5,000 Singaporeans have apply to migrate to New Zealand in the quest for a better future. I have not seen so many Singaporeans trying their best to flee the country until now.

 

The recent total demise of our semi-conductor manufacturing industry is also to be blamed for putting  many engineers off work as companies  resettled in cheaper neighbouring countries. 

 

Many engineers have to retool and switch over to a brand new career. Those who could not transit smoothly  due to personal reasons take up commission jobs in the  property and insurance careers. A few have no choice but to take up cab driving just to survive. Many have also downgrade their portfolio and expectations in the hope to continue working in our job-scarce economy.

 

What is exactly wrong with our modern economy right now and why are  our middle-aged  PMETs  continue to face re-employment setbacks when they are so well educated  and loaded with solid working experience?

 

1, Lack of legislation

  

There is a lack of adequate legislation protecting our middle-aged jobless workers from being re-hired.

 

In Singapore, many people know that their re-employment opportunities will be severely restricted if they are retrenched  in their  forties. After fifty, it is almost impossible to be re-hired and one should either switch to become a consultant or simply plan for early retirement.

 

Employers  have all along prefer younger workers for various corporate reasons and executives above the age of 40 years old face increasing pressure at re-employment. It is painful to see many middle-aged executives lowering their expectations drastically in the hope of trying to get back to the workforce.  

 

It is as if hiring an older worker is a hindrance and disadvantage.

 

Discriminatory hiring has being going on  for many years here but, unfortunately so far,  there is a lack of legislation to prevent such exploitation.  Companies continue to hire discriminately base on age, gender and even race at the expense of our local workers.

Companies continue to advertise using discriminatory terms such as Mandarin-speaking only,  below 50 years old need apply, female working environment among others. 

 

The Minstry of Manpower (MOM) has yet to show its legislative teeth by clamping down on  discriminatory advertisement prevalent in the newspaper and online media.

There is also little that the worker can do if he is not hired based on  grounds  of discrimination. He simply shakes his head and move on to another  hopefully fairer employer.

 

In other advanced developed countries, you can actually file a complaint   to the relevant governing body if you can find evidence of discriminatory hiring. There are also proper guidelines on recruitment  advertising  so that you are hired based strictly on two merits: your work experience and educational qualifications.  You can  leave out your age, race, gender, and photograph from your resume.

 

Some recruiters  have also told me that  senior  executives are apprehensive of employing well-educated experienced PMETs who may be rather unteachable and can  even later take over their jobs at the work place when they have learn the ropes. 

 

 I find that such fears are unfounded and reflect badly on the insecurities of our senior corporate staff. If a senior manager has such fear, he should not even be in his current position as he lacks confidence in his own work perfomance.

 

Singapore has struggled with the decade-long problem of re-employing  middle-aged workers and unless legislation is enforced stringently, my fear is that the pool of  unemployed PMETs  will grow unabated resulting in severe adverse social implication.

 We all know too well that when the breadwinner goes out of work, the family faces financial stress and marriages may even break up as a result.

 

2. The foreign worker  factor

 

Many people have also speculated that the chief barrier to re-employment for our middle-aged PMETs comes from  the  sizeable foreign legion of workers.

 

One in three workers in Singapore now is a foreigner and for a small economy like ours, this is a big concern as there may  not be enough jobs to go around.

 

More crucially, the foreigner worker who comes here alone can take on any job with a much reduced salary compared to the local worker saddled with family obligations and mortgage repayment.

 

Previously, we use to have two kinds of foreign workers in our country.

 

One is the unskilled blue-collared foreigner who will do all the work that most Singaporeans shy away from. They are our construction workers who toil away under the sun laying bricks to build our skyscrapers and gleaming shopping centres.

 

They also slog away at our many manufacturing plants laboriously poring over PCB boards for around $800 a month. They are accepted and even welcomed by our local population l  as they do not pose  any competition to the majority of our  local workforce. Without them, we will not be able to stay in our gleaming HDB flats and shop in comfort at the many mega shopping malls dotting our  country.  Their contributions are significant to say the least.

 

The other kind is the white-collared  professionals who come in as expatriates and they are here to make up for the critical skills shortage faced by our local talents. They  have attractive pay packages and are brought in rotationally by their corporations. Their contributions are well received as most multi national companies will not be able to operate  here without their presence and talents. This group is also welcomed and their contributions are enormous and crucial to our economy.

 

Now,  we have the third foreign group: the in-between foreign talent. They are here to take over the positions of our mid-range executives and managers and is seen as an unwelcomed competition for jobs. 

 

They  can take over any  positions in the office ranging from the front desk receptionist to the back end junior officer.

 

 In fact, local workers feel  that the S-Pass work permit holder will be the one to fear the most. They are the ones that can replace anyone in the office.  Thousands of local workers were retrenched during the past  few years and employers seek to reduce cost by hiring cheaper foreigner workers.

 

Employers will understandably continue to exploit the foreigner S-Pass work permit quota when they are face with a vacant position in the work place.  In any business set up, acquiring profits will be the supreme  corporate mission and there is no mercy here. To The employer, a worker is here to produce a piece of work and there is no loyalty or patriotism.

 

Right now, any employer can hire foreign workers if they are willing to pay a minimum salary of $1, 800 excluding the monthly worker levy up to a certain quota base on industry type. This is often cheaper than hiring a local worker who  can cost anything from $2,000 – $2,500 for an executive position excluding CPF contribution.  

 

To the tertiary-educated graduate with a few years of work experience and a family to support,  anything less than $2500 will be a financial struggle even if his spouse is working.

 

For the employers, at  the affordable cost  of $1, 800 a month, he can select  graduates  from many different countries and some come armed with many years of work experience.  The foreign worker is not only well educated, younger but also able to work very hard as he sees this as an excellent opportunity for him to resettle in a first-world environment.  

 

Back home in his third world environment, he is often paid a fraction of the salary that he can earn here.  It is almost too good an opportunity to miss even if he earns a initial salary considered  low  here compared to our local terms. He can start work straight away and later look around for another better  job.

 

For   the employer,  if he  has exhausted all his S-Pass holder quota,  for $2,500-a-month salary he can alternatively employ a foreign professional using the Employment Pass (EP) category. 

 

Furthermore, he has no quota  here and can employ as many foreigners as he wants – without any restriction.

 

It is  common knowledge by now that foreigners setting up shop here tend to prefer hiring their own kind as they can work together and speak the same kind of lingo. Thus, it is not common for foreign-run companies based here to hire  a majority of foreign  workers  in their offices with  local workers forming the minority.  Such foreign business setup does not benefit our local workforce here at all.

 

I feel that the S-Pass work permit category needs  a serious  tweaking  to better  protect the welfare of our local workers.  Companies should be encouraged to hire Singaporeans first before they resort to staff positions with foreigners. This is done in many developed countries so that local workers  are protected.

 

There is also nothing that the local executive can do to prevent his employer from terminating his service and replacing him with a cheaper  foreign worker. 

 

Our unions here are also weakened by the tripartite movement initiated by the government to better protect the well being of our businesses.  Even if the dismissed executive brings his case to the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) to seek recourse, he is often brushed aside or told to seek legal advice. The frustrated executive, wronged at work, often felt helpless  that he has no where to turn to seek justice.

 

3. Obselete Skills of Our Matured PMETs

 

Many of our middle-aged PMETs were displaced for the first time in their life last year during the major financial crisis. Some even could not send out a proper resume when they began their job search after been retrenched as they were gainfully employed all this while.

 

Many appeared lost and tried unsuccessfully to return to their old trade.

 

For those retrenched from the semi-conductor industry,  going back to the same trade is almost impossible as it is a sunset industry and many factories have pulled out of Singapore and re-settled in cheaper locations such as Vietnam, China and Thailand.

They face a bleak future as their skills are already obsolete for  the new economy and age is also against them. It will take alot of psychological re-adjustment for this group of professionals to retrain and return back to the work force. We all know too well that the older you are the harder it is to adjust and change.

 

This vulnerable group  not only has to lower their expectations drastically but also to take on an entirely different skill set to return to the workforce.

 

Of course, there are middle-aged PMETs who successfully switched careers and have happily settled down in their new job.  They managed to clear the huge salary  gap blockage and accepted the big pay cut that came with the career switch.

 

I remembered that I have to take a  $3000 pay cut to convert myself from a successful insurance agent to being a social worker.  There is alot of adjustment and  the family also went  through a period of tension as there is less disposable income to spend.

 

For those retrenched PMETs who decided to switch to doing something that they are interested in all along, the chances for a successful career shift are very much enhanced.

Many I know have switched to doing social work or teaching in their mid-age as they find the work both meaningful and rewarding.  Such emotionally taxing jobs also favour the older workers  as they are emotionally stable and dependable.

 

Nevertheless, many middle-aged PMETS  still have real difficulty switching career easily. That is probably why some retrenched executives can go  jobless for up to a  year with some lasting even longer.

 

It will be ideal if PMETs try to cultivate multiple sets of skills when they are still working so that in the event of a retrenchment, he can easily switch to another line.

 

 I know many PMETs take up licensing for taxi driving as a back up so that they have something viable to fall back on at least for the interim period until they find something concrete.

 

4.  Lack of unemployment welfare

 

A lack of unemployment welfare policy has placed  the middle-aged PMET into a desperate mode when he goes out of work.

 

There is no proper safety net here and this is one reason why jobless PMETs turn to any job that they can grab  even if its something that they dislike. 

 

For those who are not so fortunate, the waiting period can be devastating and depressive. Many jobless PMETs have entertain thoughts of suicide when the journey seems long and dark with no visible light at the end of the tunnel.

 

I have seen many professionals who are at a loss on what to do next when they are retrenched. After six months of fruitless job searching, many can turn psychotic and some even need medical attention. Many also give up searching for a job after endless rounds of interviews and rejection.

 

Prolonged joblessness does snaps at one’s self confidence and esteem rendering the person ineffective and negative.  He urgently needs a job so that he can regain back his self esteem but job hunting also requires alot of confidence and optimism and it soon becomes a vicious cycle.

 

Unemployed middle-aged PMETs, especially those who are  the main breadwinner with  young dependents, face tremendous pressure at home when their savings dwindle over a long period of joblessness. He needs to continue paying bills when there is no income coming in. Over time, he will turn to borrowing from friends and relatives when his savings turn to almost zero. He also could not job search properly as he is haunted by his desperate financial situation.

 

Unlike other developed countries that provide unemployment benefit for a season, the Singapore government does not believe in dishing out the dole for the jobless.  They are left to fend for themselves with some ending up in tragic consequences.

 

The government  believes that our workers will go lazy and dependent on such welfare handout and have only restrict welfare for the very poor. They forget that these  developed countries who provide unemployment benefit has  also  produce workers with very high productivity. They have in no way allow the unemployment benefit system influences their strong work ethics.

 

However, some may argue that we have government aid agencies in the form of Community Development t Council  providing interim financial assistance to the poor and jobless.

 

The  five Community Development Councils (CDC)  here only provide interim financial assistance to those jobless  people  living in HDB 4-room flats and below and they must have little savings in their bank account.

 

The application criterion is also very harsh and you need to provide your savings  record, CPF account, details of  your  family income among others for the officer to confirm that you are not out to fleece the system. 

 

You also have to sign a clearance form allowing the CDC to check your financial record follow by  a final home visit to ascertain that your house is not too lavishly renovated with expensive electrical appliances.

 

The  financial assistance  is normally given for not more than three months and the amount can be anything between $200 – $500 depending on  need. Re-application is allowed  but approval is done  on a case by case basis.

 

Such stringent application processing has actually frighten many genuine aid seekers from coming forward and for face-conscious Singaporeans,  many will shy away from approaching the CDC for any financial assistance even though they are in dire straits.

Naturally, the PMETs are excluded due to the strict application criterion here unless he stays in a HDB 4-room flat and below and has little savings in his bank account. His working spouse must also not earn above a certain salary scale in order for him to qualify for the hand out.

 

During the previous recession in 2001, there is suggestion of a unemployment insurance  plan whereby the worker will buy insurance to provide him a sum of money when he goes  jobless.

 

The idea was however shot down and the usual reason was given – our workers will turn lazy and too dependent on such handout.

 

Our government aid agencies, supposed to assist the matured  jobless PMETs, are also clueless as to what to do with them besides providing them with motivational workshops and some training courses.

 

Career consultants are also not trained sufficiently  to do career coaching and may be more suited to help the lower end workers to find jobs.

 

Many PMETs were frustrated when they seek assistance at CDCs and WDA as  they were given the merry-go-round.  They were also made to take courses that do not really benefit them much.

 

PMETs naturally are more demanding of the counsellors  because of their qualifications and long corporate work experience.  More can be done perhaps to ensure that better-trained career counsellors are available to help this vulerable group of jobless professionals.

 

Conclusion

 

As our economy evolves and most of the jobs created come from the service sector, more can be done perhaps in the work restructuring area   to attract our local workers to such jobs.

 

 Salaries can then be improved as employers expect more productivity from our local workers.

 

With more local workers available for employment in the service sector, hopefully we will lessen our dependence on foreign workers.

 

Proper legislation also needs  to be in place so that our matured workers are protected and can make a decent living in our own country. The S-Pass work permit quota needs to be further adjusted  so that employers do not have an easy excuse not to hire our local workers.

 

If not, we will continue to see a growing segment of our population feeling  sidelined and agitated. This can only mean adverse social implications for the whole country.

 

 Written by: Gilbert Goh

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48 Responses to “Four Major Hurdles Faced By Our Jobless Matured PMETs”

  • SilenceIsGolden:

    1. Lack of Legislation.-

    Shouldn’t job be better to be given willingly by employer than to force them to employ. If you are in a fast moving industry and I force you to employ old man or ladies who are physically impaired work like dad’s army, will you not want to bow out of the market or stop doing business altogether.

    Persuasion is better than legislation as it will enable those who are ready to take in slower workers to do so and those unable to continue their business they deem fit.

    2.The foreign worker factor –

    This can be a bane or an opportunity depending on the beholder. If there are many foreign workers in Singapore, former PMET should consider investing their money to serve this foreign worker by coordinating the the supply and demand of labor to the various industries. With their experience in the market place unless they were sleeping while they were working, they should be able to do some job matching.

    3.Obsolete Skills of Our Matured PMETs –

    That is why SPUR program is there to help these matured PMETS to acquire alternative skills. However they need to be realistic.

    4.Lack of unemployment welfare -

    If we provide too much welfare, will it encourage people to rely on their lazy bone and prefer to go for the dole instead of finding work. We cannot compare ourself to other economy. Singaporean are well known to be Kiasu and they love to eat free food.

    Anyway PMETs can drive taxi, otherwise nobody wants to drive taxi. So far I think taxi is driven mostly by Singaporeans.

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  • Seow:

    Hi Gilbert,

    Do you expect that the productivity figures in the service sector to be lower than the manufacturing sector? Does this also mean lower salaries to be expected in the service sector?

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  • howtrue:

    1. The only one who can work till 88 and made millions is none other than MM.

    2. Most middle aged workers are being thrown out not because they cannot do the job, but they are being replaced with cheap and younger alternatives.

    3. In Japan, where companies value employees and in return ask for loyalty and efforts. In Singapore, it is all about cost and cost, no human touch.

    4. Not just in the 40s but early 30s highly educated are driving taxis and changing their careers to insurance or property, these probably not reported.

    5. The import of millions of FT into Singapore are straining the whole job market – this is an island with limited choice, even the IRs hired mainly FTs.

    6. There are not enough good jobs to go around, every major industry dominated by GLCs, SMES cannot grow into global companies. The failure of grooming and growing SMEs to create more jobs.

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  • AMK:

    This article is very well written. but sad to say as long as LKY & LHL is still in power… the PAP government usual policy is still 你死你的事,不要拖累我。

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  • Sianz:

    The biggest hurdle is point #2 — the unfettered unrelenting influx of foreigners into Singapore. Anti-worker policies compound the situation and make it even worse.

    Let’s face it, in this current environment created by PAP, employers will rather pay $2.5K salary to a 25-yr-old foreigner than to a 45-yr-old citizen. There’s no incentive for the company to hire older citizens who they see as giving health problems, increasing insurance costs, slow and cannot be easily re-trained. OTOH there’s no or minimal penalty to hire younger foreigners even at same salary as they are seen as faster, “hungrier”, easier to teach etc.

    I have worked with so-called indian FTs since 1995, and I can unequivocally say that 99% of them are NOT faster, better, hungrier, willing to work long hours, hardworking, nor smarter than local singaporeans. In fact, 99% of them are full of shit, talk cock sing song, liars, skivers, lazy bastards, back-stabbers and greedy arseholes bordering on thieves. Quite a few of them told me (proudly somemore!) that these are the kind of “skills” required back in India in order to succeed. Tells you a lot about how they managed to get selected to come to singapore in the first place.

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  • PR:

    very well written !

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  • It's official: 42% foreigners:

    IT’S OFFICIAL: SINGAPORE IS MADE UP OF 42% FOREIGNERS.

    Check out the 13 May 2010 article in Huffington Post. That 42% figure is stated about 1/3 down in the article.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dana-kennedy/strict-singapore-may-be-t_b_574784.html

    Most of the article is just inane crap that sounds like the writer is being paid by STB for an advertisement. However, the interesting (and hidden) part of this article, is that the supposedly well-known and senior journalist was being given the red-carpet treatment by govt officers and civil servants. In terms of arranging the itinerary, transport, putting into contact with personalities, as well as providing her with info to write the article etc.

    Thus that 42% foreigners info must have come from the govt officers assigned to her. If it was just an estimated figure calculated by the writer or provided by others, it would probably be a round figure like 35% or 40% or even 45% (or even 36% if the writer bothered to check out TR).

    42% is just too specific. Given that our civil servants provided at least administrative help to the writer, it lends credence that this 42% figure is the actual percentage of foreigners as tallied by the PAP govt. And yet they keep it a secret to our own citizens.

    So, TR editors, in future you may probably need to use this updated 42% foreigners number, instead of the old 36%.

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  • LIONS ROAR:

    EXCELLENT PIECE OF WORK!
    One more factor,employers’ greed as in cheaper is better.

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  • CBF:

    On a slightly more humorous note, the new incoming No. 2 at the UK Treasury was rather helpfully advised by his outgoing predecessor that the UK has “no money left”.

    I wonder if this will be the same message the PAPies will give to the govt that finally overthrows PAP.
    “Sorry, old Cheee Bye Fcuker (aka cheaper better faster), there’s no more money left in CPF and the reserves. See you in the Bahamas!”

    I won’t be surprised if it is so. We have long been transformed into daft sheep, and by the time we wake from our coma, the whole country will have gone to hell. The PAPies won’t even bother to stand for re-elections — they’ll be too busy flying off to their 2nd homes in Monaco, Switzerland and the Caribbean.

    Bloomberg Article below:-

    ‘There’s No Money Left,’ U.K. Minister Learns From Predecessor
    By Robert Hutton

    May 17 (Bloomberg) — Arriving for work at the U.K. Treasury last week, the incoming chief secretary, David Laws, found a note from his predecessor, Liam Byrne, offering advice on the job.

    According to Laws, it read: “Dear Chief Secretary, I’m afraid to tell you there’s no money left.”

    “Which was honest,” Laws, whose position is the No. 2 in the Treasury after the chancellor of the exchequer, told a press conference in London today. “But slightly less than I was expecting.”

    The note underscores the task facing Britain’s coalition government as it seeks to reconcile demand for improved health and education services with promises to reduce the largest budget deficit since World War II.

    It was also in the tradition of Reginald Maudling, Conservative chancellor of the exchequer from 1962 to 1964. Leaving his residence after election defeat, he was reported by James Callaghan, his successor, to have remarked, “Sorry, old cock, to leave it in this shape.”

    Byrne didn’t respond to requests for comment.

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  • Poor Worker:

    Recently I came across one indian web site published by reader of temasekreview. The web site mentioned that India government is going to renew the trade agreement signed in 2005 to ask Singapore to open up more job market in IT, Fiance and health-care. Singapore, in return, will obtain trade concessions (I guess also huge business contracts) from India. I also read in newspapers that there are more than 200,000 indian professionals (could reach 300,000 if include their siblings).

    Our gov for the sake of self-interest, open the flood gate to these foreign professionals who replace some of our more well educated and qualified local PMETs. Many companies, for the sake of cost cutting, mass recruit these foreign professionals who degrees are unknown and work performance simply cant match our locals.

    What to do?

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  • TheTruth:

    The Singaporean employers’ attitude towards older workers, particulary PMETs, is that 1)they are expensive 2)they will jump ship the moment they find a job that pays their old salary or higher and 3)that PMETs are too entrenched in their ways and cannot be taught.

    I find this attitude is ghastly. To begin with, many of these HR managers and directors are in the same age group as those unfortunate PMETs. They should understand the PMETs’ dilemma, of all people. These so-called HR practitioners should have assessed whether these PMETs are “teachable” before writing them off.

    Two: It isn’t difficult to get around the “jump ship” issue. Give these PMETs a 1-year or 2-year contract with a stipulation that they cannot resign for no good reason, other than illness etc.

    Third: Offer the PMET a salary that is say 80% of his last, which should be adjusted to his old salary if he proves his worth.

    Finally, the HR Manager should be the one to interview these older PMETs and not some 25 year-old HR executive who cannot relate to the PMETs.

    One important caveat: Government should introduce legislations against discrimination based on age, race,religion and sexual orientation. Clearly, the government has to get its act together before it introduces these legislations, so that it can set a fine example to the others. There is no need to ask for age on the application form. His length of work experience is indicative of approximate age. Also, when you see the candidate any fool can guesstimate the candidate’s age. Besides, the first few digits of the NRIC number will give his age group away.

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  • Mag:

    We keep hearing voices that foreign workers are needed to improve our economy, PMETS need to go for retraining. So, there is no way quotas will be lowered..Singapaoreans need to help Singaporeans alos, please employ Singaporeans, instead of foreign workers

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  • Mag:

    We keep hearing voices saying that foreign workers are needed to improve our economy, PMETS need to go for retraining. So, there is no way quotas will be lowered..Singapaoreans need to help Singaporeans alos, please employ Singaporeans, instead of foreign workers

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  • Doctorate:

    A few of my friends, MBAs and DBA are already out of work for more than 1 year. Structural unemployment and cheap imports.

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  • Shing:

    Why do we not hear USA or European countries having such an extremely liberal foreign talent policy? Are they not 1st worlds like singapore? Why USA and Europe continue to be leading countries in terms of many things?

    Since my unemployment, I have been working on low wage jobs. Every companies I go to since hire lots of young foreigners to the extent that i few rare as citizen.

    While it may be true that many singaporeans are holding jobs, with about 3 percent unemployed, these 3 percent needs Opposition MPs to represent them more effectively.

    I hope these 3 percent knows why opposition MPs are needed at least in this aspect. Opposition MPs are the professionals dedicated to fight for people like us. To be fair anyone can fight for us if they choose to. The reality is most employers and managers , singaproeans or not, all are concerned about bottom line and KPIs only. This means the opposition MPs are very important to the 3%.

    But they need to be 1st elected.

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  • Jobless PMET:

    Thank you Gilbert, for your thoughtful article, I have been in this dilemma for the last 5 years when i finally packed my bag to leave Singapore to work ‘illegally’ overseas as travel consultant.

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  • Concerned Housewife:

    We have all been going through very tough times for a long time now. So bros and sis, please make time and effort to take care of family members, friends and weaker Singaporeans. Lets not put too much pressure on our love ones who have lost their jobs or not bringing home enough, as it is not something of their own doing. Shame on bad policies leaving Singaporeans on a free fall. Business owners, please be fair to Singaporeans, and believe us, we are not daft, we are human.

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  • blameitonpap:

    Since there are so many PMETS not working, why dont we all become opposition politicians and worked very hard to get the postsn and miliions that the PAP govt is raking and teach them a lesson they will forget. Remember to give to the poor if you win elections and become ministers, you idiot scared shit PMETS.

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  • Ahkong:

    PMET especially those in the age group of 45 – 55 are not taken care of by the PAP government. Why? They have to face up to the following:-

    1 unemployment
    2 affected by the minimum sum scheme
    3 competition from foreigners
    4 health issues
    5 high cost of living and inflation
    6 lack of partime jobs designed for retirees

    THe government seems to neglect this group leaving them to the systemic genocidal tsumani constructed by LKY.

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  • eaglefly:

    which filipino or filipina speaks mandarin, how many burmese speaks mandarin, how many indians from india, speaks mandarin, how many indians from malaysia speaks mandarin, how many vietnamese speaks madarin, how many indonesian speaks mandarin, the list could go on and on,

    SO WHY THE FUCKS WE NEED TO HAVE MANDARIN OR BILINGUAL CANDIDATES ???

    DOES ALL MP’S IN PARLIAMENT SPEAKS MANDARIN ???? WHY ARE THEY HAVING A “2 MILLION DOLLARS” JOB AND OUR MALAYS AND INDIANS DON’T HAVE ANY “CENT” OR MILLIONS OF CENTS ???

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  • nihon:

    i feel v sorry for my fellow sgs. we gave our blood sweat n tears in ns. then our political rights r robbed; n we got played out/betrayed by pests.
    r reagan asked, ” my fellow americans r your lives better now than …?” my fellow sgs, r our lives better?
    all these foreign rubbish took our jobs,hdbs, health care, schools and roads, mrts, etc.
    we r foreigners in our own con try. paprasites use ft/prs to get growth, to brag and to get their million dollars pay. productivity was good, now? ntuc lss: better cheaper f^^^er. is he an sg labour chief or foreign labour chief?
    what a SHAM! first problem, let’s run, let the fts,prs, new sg defend stinkapore.

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  • howtrue:

    singapore hrs and employers do not understand national pride and loyalty, all the after is lower wages to ensure high profitability.

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  • Laurent Xavier:

    this situation is getting from bad to worse, i am disillusion with the inaction or rather the nonchalant attitude of the authorities. am packing my bags and leaving this place i no longer can identify with, since the 70s and 80s.

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  • tiredman:

    I do not know whether foreigners are stealing Singaporean’s job. But within my own circle of friends, foreigners are indeed taking a way Singaporeans’ job.
    In my own opinion, foreigners are most unwelcome group of people. Previously, they are welcome as they do not threaten our job. Now, other than stealing job away, I start to hear stories foreigners superiors bully local staffs. Working in our country, they can be so cocky and this is not acceptable.
    I worry for myself and asking myself what would happen to me if I reach my 40s and continue to support this kind of policy. Worker union in Singapore is a totally useless union. They fail to protect the rights of the local workers. Overall, the government fail badly… This is definately not the government I want…
    I still believe, this situation is due to insufficient opposition representation in the parliament as the current one is not doing a good job and worse of all they draw mega salary.

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  • sad:

    There is only one hurdle. You die your business in pap gov.

    Loss billions, pay increase for gov and more foreigners.

    Sg citizens, please think , or am i joking

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  • D-Natural:

    Any foreigner who can afford a plane ticket can come into Singapore, work online from a rented room, compete with small businesses here (copyediting, graphic design, web design, etc) and probably not pay a single cent in income tax.

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  • Nobonuscivilservant:

    I appeal to all my fellow civil servants out there to not vote for the PAP this time. We did not get any bonus and our pays have been frozen. It is not a question of blind loyalty. If PAP loses this election to the opposition, we will still keep our jobs and work for the better leadership that comes in. So please do not for the PAP anymore. Please, please, please make life better for all of us with more opposition as our government puts us on a leash in this service. Vote greed out. Vote for reform of the system.

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  • Indian_Fight_Indian:

    The number of foreign Indians in our country now far exceeds the number Singaporean Indians. Indians and Indians don’t mix. Wonder when the fight is going to start.

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  • More Foreigners in Civil Service?:

    Thanks very much Gilbert for your free and insightful analysis of the predicament of Singaporean PMET’s who are 40+. Perhaps the current Government and NTUC leaders and analysts who are paid many more times than you to do this work will get some CLUES about why an increasing number of these Singaporeans are “choosing” early retirement, self-employment, overseas employment, emigration and voluntary unemployment.

    The unemployment figures cited still hide the unemployment rate of Singaporeans which suggest it is increasing and at a much higher rate than 3.2% for all residents. The proportion of Foreigners to Singapore Citizens in the workforce was about 45% as at 31 March 2010 or almost 1 Foreigner to 1 Singaporean. (Singapore Permanent Residents are of course not Singaporeans.) This would indicate the unemployment rate of Singaporeans is more than 5% and explains why the government wants to hide the fact since they are unable to FIX it! (Multi-million Dollar solution: If you can’t FIX it, HIDE it!) The only way they can debunk these estimates is to come out with the truth.

    If the Government and Civil Service, being the largest employer in Singapore, continue to hire large numbers of Foreigners (under the name of Singapore Permanent Residents) what can we expect from GLC’s and the private sector? The Government and Civil Service clearly set a bad example for all to follow. If it does not change its hiring practises to ensure Singaporeans FIRST nothing is going to change except the foreseeable change of the current government FIRST.

    Ask Singaporean PMET’s who are 40+ to apply for jobs in the government and civil service and you will probably find there is usually no reply from them. Their forms are designed for people with little work experience or limited description permitted. The forms and their people are not able to handle anything which is ‘outside the box’ (these 40+ PMET’s are obviously outside the box!). Don’t ask them for any help, consideration or understanding as it will not come. They are certainly not from the ‘Goh Keng Swee School of Management’ which cuts through all the bureaucracy and red tape (also known as ‘bull shit’) and finds practical and quick workable solutions to the problems identified. (Dr Goh a.k.a. Mr FIXIT was never CLUELESS!)

    The Form filling exercises will usually take you one or two hours (20mins for school leavers) and their inflexibility will most probably guarantee your failure, very much like the “help”, you mentioned, provided by CDC’s and similar organisations. These government organisations claim (quite loudly) they want to “help” suffering Singaporeans but as you can see it is all just lip service.

    Ministers enthusiastically and unquestioningly help themselves to millions of dollars for the poor quality solutions they provide but ask suffering Singaporeans many invasive questions for the few hundred dollars on offer to help them if they first clear an obstacle course. These Singaporeans are the victims who have been injured by poor quality government policies and they now have to take the insults as well.

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  • 2ndclass:

    I work in local IT company and majority of my colleague are foreign talent, as I’m Singaporean I work as hard as the foreign talent for years, but workload getting more and more, and my ex-boss never do anything, I finally quit and when I did that, he employ two foreign talent people to replace my positions, get them new computer, new software and they are paid well. I felt unappreciated and treated as if I was in foreign country.

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  • Ahkong:

    On top of all this the government come up with the minimum sum scheme furthur deprive of senior PMETs some financial asset to last through unemployment. The government is guilty of systemic genocide on these PMETs by withholding badly needed finance when they are of that age.

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  • anon:

    perhaps it’s a perception issue? it’s not entirely true we hire based on cost

    when i hire, the only question on my mind is ‘why you?’

    during interviews i’ll be looking for that reason why i should pick one person over another.

    paper qualifications, past salary doesn’t come into the picture, i know i need to pay if i want good staff

    to be hired, you need to impress me first. enthusiasm, attitude, aptitude. asking me how many days annual leave, paternity leave, child care leave, sick leave, bonus, only tells me you’re more interested in what you can get, rather than what you can contribute

    salary, like we always say, is negotiable. that means, believe me, if we think you’re worth it, we’ll pay

    but therein lies the catch. we must think you’re worth it.

    so, next time you go for an interview, put in some effort to make me think, you’re worth it.

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  • LIONS ROAR:

    @anon
    YOU ARE ONLY ONE OF THE THOUSANDS OF COST CONSCIOUS EMPLOYERS.
    EVEN SMALL ENTERPRISES ARE HIRING ON COST BASIS AND THAT’S WHY WE ARE GETTING POOR PRODUCTIVITY ALL ROUND.
    wow,could you leave your contact number behind so that some good PMETS could try and show you what they have got?!!!

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  • kongchiaowei:

    The one and only real obstacle is this foolish government and its countless follies such as the FT policy.
    Singaporean workers,if you stillcare about your family and future,vote for these reasons even if don’t have any compelling reason to vote the oppo candidates.

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  • GS:

    Why arent they going to other countries for training on the job?
    these “certified names” are not even teachable once they land a job.
    Their politics are always to point their fingers at those who are actually working.

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  • A voice of reason:

    You guys are living in a fantasy world, where businesses will willingly be subject to strict employment laws where they are forced to retain/hire older workers in favor of cheaper younger ones.

    Wake up and smell the roses! If the cost of doing business is too high, the businesses won’t even bother to set up here. Our local market is so small, what other incentive do the businesses have to come to S’pore? To them its all about $$$$, bottomline. Too expensive in S’pore? Bye bye!

    Think about this before you all start barking again

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  • David:

    Giving jobs to Singaporean is part of Total Defence.

    If Singaporeans have no job, they will have no morale to protect this country. If Singaporeans have no job, the first sign of war is all that they would wish for.

    If Singaporeans have no job, they will have no money to support their family let alone supporting this country.

    If Singaporeans have no job, they will choose to migrate to greener pasture and forsake this homeland leaving it defenseless.

    If Singaporeans have no job, it is a clear sign that all segements in this country is broken – ranging from discriminative employers, uncompassionate recruitment agents, an uncaring government, and an influx of foreigners distorting what used to be a frabic that bind the people of Singapore.

    If Singaporeans have no job, first thing came to mind is to get rid of PAP.

    The best solution, and for the sake of this country and the people, PAP must not be allowed to become government again.

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  • Voice Out:

    @ A voice of reason

    You people open your floodgate too fast and too wide, should first and foremost think of Singaporeans first, whether young or old.

    Costs of businesses include other costs like your rentals, taxes, utilities etc. etc., that’s what made Singapore expensive, not just wages.

    Think before pushing the blame to us. Who’s the one barking now.

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  • Huh?:

    46% are foreigners???? what is the Govt trying to do???

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  • Folks ..... I notice that no one has responded to certain CLOD who posted first and .......:

    Said….. “Anyway PMETs can drive taxi, otherwise nobody wants to drive taxi. So far I think taxi is driven mostly by Singaporeans.”

    HE MUST BE A DAMN pappy! If we ever find out who he is, and he is under your employ too….. FIRE that CLOD who has a “hairy” blood-clot in his damned Right brain! Doubt he knows what the right hemisphere of his brain if for! The left part of his brain is already infested by “hairy maggots” and predominates his right brain part!!!!

    Let him drive a taxi, earn MUCH LESS through no fault of his own except pap policies and then let him tell us he’s “happy”….. even “joyful”!!! BUGGARS like him are BUGBEARS and LEECHES of CIVIL SOCIETY and DON’T DESERVE any sympathy when he is fallen!!!! Just let that heartless no snout “snort” his very breath OUT. I never hated anyone so much just in like TR as he keeps showing how DAMNING HEARTLESS AND VOID HE ACTUALLY IN HIS BLEEDING HEAD!!!!

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  • Folks ..... I notice that no one has responded to certain CLOD who posted first and .......:

    And let it be known too that….

    PMET as pap has made it to become…. =……

    “Permanently Made Erroneously Terminated”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Professionalism as promoted by harry in Singapore has been murdered by the one who called US hard-working natives DAFT and not hard-working too! DAMN TRAITOR OF “a leader”??? Ture or not????

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  • Cantilingus Sebastian Roe:

    we cannot rely on singaporean bosses to be merciful on singaporean workers. the become bosses to earn as much as humanly possible.

    we cannot rely on layman employee citizens to help citizens fight for more job security.

    YES! We CAN rely on the Professionals : the Opposition MPs.

    But these have to be given the mandate to take up seats in parliament.

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  • Tong Ah Heng:

    I wonder how will the influx progress if the target remains at 6.5 million after the next election?

    To me, this is the Deciding Election for our future and that includes job security and retirement.

    Lets not take it lightly. This is the Deciding Election, imho.

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  • Truthful:

    Felt so betrayed & disappointed by the current ruling elites. Nowadays, even if we wanted to downgrade our expectations to find a job that command lesser pay also VERY VERY DIFFICULT!!! From my observation & personal experience, it’s mainly caused by the cheap, easily available foreign PMET flooding the markets now. Why should we keep the dogs that keep biting the hands that feed them?

    Even a communist China that is so vast & prosperous knows what/how to protect its own people first. http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/1058400/1/.html

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  • dulan:

    Remember Yishun MP Ong Ah Heng who said he sacked the local town council cleaners because some residents complained they were too slow and replaced them with foreigners.

    The whole bunch of papayas are traitors of our own country who sold the voters and PMETs who voted them out by replacing them with foreigners.

    So for the sake of our generation and future generation, please vote wisely.

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  • Rats:

    Hi all,

    Reading TR really makes my blood boil and the worst thing is THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT!!!!!

    What is the use of ranting and complaining when there are no real actions, all talks but NO ACTIONS???

    The rate we are going is we are going to develop LEARNED HELPLESSNESS, once we are at this stage, we resigned ourselves to fate.

    I guess this is the sole purpose of this website.

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  • MIB:

    Good people of Singapore. Start a political party to defend your right. The more the merry.

    Better still, let’s have a hung government, that is when all the beans are spilled!! All the dirty laundry will be out!

    THey said,” The Singaporean lots are the smart, they will form a political party to fight.”

    Let’s face it. The current opposition guys are encouragable for their guts, but can these moley crew stand up to the MIW?

    I think there is a gap to be filled!

    We need people like Thailand’s Abhisit.

    PM Abhisit, if the red gives you more trouble, no worry! You come and become Singapore citizen, start a political party. We confirm, will back you.

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  • SilenceIsGolden:

    There is not going to be opposition that is strong enough to challenge our first world PAP. What do you have in Singapore that can hold a candle to the talent there is in PAP? Lots of people thought they would vote opposition in the coming election, once the opposition start speaking, you start running to the PAP.

    The quality of the opposition is very poor, some even dressed in slipper showing how disinterested they are in contesting. Their speeches make you want to fall a sleep. Who want to vote for these type of people? Some who become your MP, they start to get their buddy to run the town council and that is not run by meritocracy. Even when poor quality and shoddy work is being spotted, they close two eyes and so let it be.

    Stop dreaming about opposition. PAP gets voted in based on its pure quality and there are smart people who knows what is the right thing to do. They always do the apt things to be liked by the people of their constituency and they can give you abalone and porridge too.

    Government policy will not affect the selection of MP because that is not what the opposition can do. They are going to lose on polling day and capitulate the governing authority to the PAP simply by walkover. On day one, PAP will be your government what more can you do. The talk therefore cannot be one of the governing of Singapore but rather who can better manage your estate, isn’t that true? You cannot choose who you want to vote based on your preference. You only can choose who is the opposition available at your door step and contesting in your constituency. In short opposition will lose.

    Since you know you are going to lose why not vote PAP and win. LOL…

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