Businesses in Orchard suffered massive losses from second flood in a month
July 18th, 2010 | 
Author: It was supposed to be “un-floodable” and yet for the second time in a month, Singapore’s prime shopping district of Orchard has been hit by “once in a fifty year” flood again, bringing much embarrassment to the beleaguered PAP.
The first flood on 16 June reportedly caused millions of damages to retailers in Orchard. Soon after renovating their premises, they were hit by another flood again.
When interviewed by Channel News Asia, one owner of a shop at Lucky Plaza expressed her unhappiness at the frequent disruption in her business.
“This is very bad. I feel that the management should do something about it because this is not the first time. It happens almost every year.”
The previous flood was attributed by PUB to a choked drain which was supposedly cleared of debris. There were no official explanation of the latest flood yet.
Photos of the flooding were uploaded and widely distributed on the internet, thereby exposing the PAP’s gross incompetence and ineptitude in tackling the problem.
As usual, PAP Environment Minister Yaacob Ibrahim, who is paid more than $2 million dollars a year, is nowhere to be heard, seen or found.
Neither did PUB CEO Khoo Teck Chye who said that the June flooding was “unacceptable”, but offer no public apologies for it, made any appearances or statements. It is as if the flooding has got nothing to do with them.
Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong chided Singaporeans lately for having “unrealistic” expectations. According to him, it is “impossible” to expect Singapore to be completely flood-free, yet the floods have been occurring on a weekly basis for the last two months or so.
In Singapore, political leaders and senior civil leaders expect and demand to be paid astronomical salaries pegged at market rates, but refused to accept the same level of scrutiny and accountability. (Example: DBS Chief’s public apology for the recent technical glitch this week)
No matter how things screw up, they will never accept any responsibility or blame.
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here is my view:
I think that dams (Marina Barrage is a dam but is called barrage because it is located at the extreme downstream of the water flow) are workable in countries with terrain of proper topography. The gradient of the drainage towards the sea should be correctly calculated, because the dam will obstruct the flow and increase the level of water upstream. This is a trade off which has to be accepted in spite of the other advantages such as creating a reservoir to make newWater for Singaporeans *duh* or other green uses.
The problem is that in constructing a dam, you need very very strong pillars to support the structure and the dam gates, many pillars. Therefore the width of these pillars plonked into the sea at regular intervals, maybe staddling 20% of the width of the river mouth, WILL OBSTRUCT the free flow of water EVEN WITH GATES ALL OPENED. PAP is NOT lying when they said the open of the flood gats relieved the flood water. But it is one step forward two step back approach, the dam gates pillars are still obstructing the flow, this could be the reason for all the floods!!!!!
Hence i think that if the gradient of the land and the topography is not suitable it is SUICIDE to build a dam. Like Singapore. Very flat, we need a professor of civil engineering to first help us understand the technical tradeoffs before we can accept.
Even china last night 17 Jul 2010 blast open a dam they constructed, they say it was neccesrry to destroy the dam to prevent floods, did you see the video footage on CNA? This is frank admission of error, good government.
rex
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We did not have floods of such, until this year. And the Mickey Mouse barrage did not work? Must be cheap lah.
Anyway, the people who suffered massive losses should go to Hong Lim Park and stage an outcry and consult a lawyer to sue MoE.
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i heard from the news that pub said the rain has something to do with the typhoon “CONSON” ? first they siad freak flood occur 1 in 50yrs than unique rain pattern and then blockage , this time typhoon ? i’m confused !
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PUB who told Balestier area residents at Jalan Mamor, TWICE in the last month, that floods were once in a blue moon occurence and “there’s nothing wrong with the system” after residents marched to the town council and complained.
Their MP, Mr Heng Chee How, who is in INDONESIA FOR WORK, was UNAWARE of the flooding.
Source: Sunday morning Straits Times
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What happened was very bad…
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Singapore is indeed FOURTH WORLD.
Singapore is not even THIRD WORLD — because most third world nations have democracy, freedom of speech and duly elected leaders that are not over 80 years old — and of course, most third world nations have no floods like Singapore.
Let me see, Singapore now is an island of casinos and gambling and prostitutes and chinese PRC mainlanders and FLOOD and dictator and his little boy and his little boy’s man-like wife and the old man’s family and friends and over-priced HDB pigeon holes.
What else is next?
What can this island take in before it is doomed to becoming FIFTH WORLD?
You pay millions and millions to PAP ministers and yet they cannot even prevent a flood in the central district area?
You got to be f%#king kidding me.
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100mm of rain fell within 3 hours, causing floods
By Joanne Chan | Posted: 16 June 2010 1530 hrs
SINGAPORE: About 100 millimetres (mm) of rain fell between 8am and 11am on Wednesday, causing flash floods in some parts of Singapore.
National water agency, PUB, said the amount of rain recorded was approximately more than 60 per cent of the average monthly rainfall for June (average rainfall for June is 162mm).
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1063622/1/.html
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Heavy rain causes flash floods in hotspots, leaves trail of damage & disruption
By Hetty Musfirah | Posted: 17 July 2010 1318 hrs
National water agency, PUB, said during the two-hour downpour, some 178.4 millimetres of rain were recorded in the central areas, while 179.6mm of rain were recorded in the eastern areas.
That’s more than the average total monthly rainfall of about 159 millimetres for July.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1069917/1/.html
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In June, 100 mm of rainfall over 3 hours. In July 180 mm of rainfall over 2 hours.
That is 180 mm of rainfall over 2 hours!!!!
Isn’t this more rainfall than even a typhoon!!!
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no election this year liao becoz ppl are so angry leh …
4x flood in 2 months time cause million of dollars , pm want to bring in 100,000 cheap labors , transport fare hike , housing price go up , cov go up , electricity go up , inflation go up etc etc …
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there are 2 types of flood in singapore , one cause by rain and the other cause by cheap labours . more than 100,000 cheap labours will be coming , are you ready ?
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AND THESE F–KING PAPPIES STEAL MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS TO PAY THEMSELVES YEARLY, ALL THESE F—KING HELICOPER VISIONS SPOUTING OUT OF THE OLD FART WHEN DEFENDING THEM BEING PAID THESE HUMONGOUS SALARIES!!!!!! VOTE VOTE VOTE THEM ALL OUT!
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Every flood that occurs in Singapore will remind us that the PAP leaders are washouts.
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We have the most useless PAP government in our history.
It is being lead by whose son?
Which PAP government department is not in fire fighting mode now?
Am I right?
Wake up la…PAP!
Ha ha ha!
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Haiz. We have aged 200 years (4*“once in a fifty year” flood)in 2 months because of the floods. Singapore will celebrate it’s 245th birthday on the coming 9th August. HAPPY 245th BIRTHDAY SINGAPORE!
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Some idiot in the Orchard road said after the June flood that the flood was a “once in 25 years” event. Now think he have to eat his own shit when Orchard roads floods AGAIN within a month.
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When we reach the months of November and December, how? It’ll be raining continuously for days. Yesterday’s rain only lasted a few hours, and see the damage it has done.
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rex:
July 18, 2010 at 8:39 am
Good points about Marina Barrage pillars obstructing the natural flow of water.
The question is will PAP admit her mistake?
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Tyhoon Conson is so far away from Sg….why would it effect us, a tiny island? and did it wreak flash floods in MY/Vietnam/thailand etc those countries nearer to north asia?
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Even God is giving stupid Sinkies a wake-up call to vote out the PAPpies. What more do you want? A level 10 earthquake to demolish Toa Payoh or bring down the Pinnacle @ Duxton? Or a firestorm sweeping across Raffles Place and Shenton Way during peak hour lunchtime? God is merciful and is trying to give us a message without resorting to loss of lives. Do not test God’s patience!
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one more time, we will start having rental speedboat stand at the road of orchard… not bad leh. so much fun… n there will b tissue seller uncle n auntie selling raincoat, rubber shoes along the street. so uniquely singapore….
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Hey guys,
do you believe singaporeans, you know, those native singaporeans, care about finding out how the flood really come about?
I dun think so. I dun see people discussing about this or are eager enough or curious enough to demand answers.
Maybe the people are different than other country citizens?
If no one asks, would there be answers?
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Well well well gals and guys – PAP is very hard at work, coming Parliament session they are doing something , they want to be seen to be doing something – WHICH IS ACTUALLY T A L K I N G !!!! HAHAHAHA
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PR CITIZEN:
July 18, 2010 at 10:09 am
Why must PAP accept the Blame?? It is because of Singaporeans that there are so many floods. So many litterbugs. That day, i saw so many Singaporeans wearing that Corrective Work Order vest and picking up litter at East Coast.
U sure those are Singaporeans tat r born n breed in Singapore? Who knows they r previously PR and convert to Citizen, u r saying urself too in this sense.
I was telling my friend, that these Singaporean dogs are so useless that they can’t even pick up litter properly and looking at the number of Singaporeans doing their embrassing Punishment, it must be Singaporean dogs that keep on littering and causing floods if there is heavy rainful.
Wat right u call us dogs, then I call u pig!!!
Have you Singaporeans got no shame??? You bloody Litterbugs bark at the PAP when you are the real culprits???
Oh I saw PRs and FTs also littering, wonder who bark who?
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what happened is very bad, Go See Your MP !
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even my mother is angry now. have to repair car twice because car flooded yesterday again.first time once in 50 years she ok. yesterday again she almost fainted ,needs car tmr to go hospital visit.when doctor give her 5 types of medicine they need a pharmacologist to interpret the interaction of medicines to know the final outcome.when u are given 10 medication only god know the outcome. So this is what the goverment is doing now build , dig everywhere bring in FTs dump throw rubbish all over until they actually dont know whatis the outcome.
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Next the authorities will issue a warning to the shop owners in Orchard Road— the monsoon season is just around the corner, better take cover
and whatever things you can salvage, especially those in the basement and ground floor level.
Ignore the warning at your own peril!!
So all responsibilities solved!!
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@ “PR CITIZEN: I was telling my friend, that these Singaporean dogs are so useless that they can’t even pick up litter properly and looking at the number of Singaporeans doing their embrassing Punishment, it must be Singaporean dogs that keep on littering and causing floods if there is heavy rainful.
Have you Singaporeans got no shame??? You bloody Litterbugs bark at the PAP when you are the real culprits???”
Firstly, the way I’ve observed, most of the littering were done by new immigrants (maybe like yourself). Just take a look at open spaces @ orchard, geylang, kallang & serangoon etc after weekend gatherings of these uncultivated groups. Check out the filth they left behind.
Secondly, most of the cleaners are PRs from slum filled countries. Their standard of cleanliness can be seen through their own homelands hence the half-assed jobs to rid the wastes.
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Don’t you guys find it coincidental that whenever pinky makes some cock remark or implement policies that are harmful to Singaporeans, the heavens above respond in kind?Pinky said 15% growth and another 100k foreign workers, floods occur. Singaporeans may be helpless to voice their disagreements, but the higher powers sure are not. The heavens got eyes!!! (Tian You Yen!!!)
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Seriously, with all these complaints, do you think someone will come out to admit and discuss the problem? The answer is NO. Because as long as it is not their problem, why should they do anything. Their salary is still the same, not affected by the flood !!! why should they care? It can flood million of times…and yet nothing will affect the salary of any of the departments that are in-charge !!
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Dr Amy Khor said it was working well. Otherwise, other areas in Singapore might have flooded too
WHAT SAY U NOW DR AMY KHOR????
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Even God is giving stupid Sinkies a wake-up call to vote out the PAPpies. What more do you want? A level 10 earthquake to demolish Toa Payoh or bring down the Pinnacle @ Duxton? Or a firestorm sweeping across Raffles Place and Shenton Way during peak hour lunchtime? God is merciful and is trying to give us a message without resorting to loss of lives.
i pray hard for a typhoon on COOLING day……….. of course we need more rain to cool off on COOLING DAY !!!
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these businessmen and women would not come together and launch a law suit against the one responsible, assuming someone is responsible, for the inability to prevent flooding right?
they will just accept right?
i not sure. you sure?
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What do the civil engineering professors in NUS, NTU have to say about this? Their silence is deafening!
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the lianhe wanbao’s photographer, Mr Wu, was trying to spin a story of floods in Singapore. This is completely untrue and so I have to request for Mr Wong Can’t Sing to instruct the Singapore Police Force to stop this blasphemy. I hereby repeat again. Flood only happens every 50 years in Singapore. God’s honest truth this is. Therefore, we might have another flood in 2060, but not anytime earlier. I hope that this will put the whole issue to rest, so that everyone of us can focus on increasing our GDP.
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Excuse me, mr jwl per your post 6:01pm,
Do you not know,
monkey see noo evil hear noo evil say noo evil.
Monkey keep precious job, plenty of good bananas daily.
Monkey see Monkey do.
Monkey not ask questions what Big Monkey do.
Best Regards
Professeri Mon Kee
for the Guild of Professori of Monkey of Monkey Land
National University of Monkee
(A Sinkapore Inc., affiliate)
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Every country leaders like US and China visit and command the rescue team on site if there is any natural disaster. But our ministers and leaders are still sleeping?
What happen now? Can anyone show me any news relating to leaders showing their compassionate feelings to those suffering?
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The massive floods are also caused by the many construction sites brought about by the en block craze.
When it rains, the soil is drained and clogs the drainage system. Notice teh colour of the flood waters? It is muddy.
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I think the Chinese newspaper reporter who was arrested did not obey Police orders to stop taking photographs.
I can understand from the Government’s perspective to prevent the press and media from publicising too much about the recent floods, which can tarnish Singapore’s reputation to the World.
I wonder if a lawis going to be passed in parliament soon to make it a crimminal offence for taking photographs of “any pictures that could ruin the reputation of the Government of the Republic of Singapore.”
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LOL. What an embarrassment and shame.
Let’s see a news report on this. An article which no doubt is far more truthful than the ’sanitized’ versions in the local media.
I will copy and paste the entire article, just in case:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/07/18/2957114.htm
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Flash floods stain Singapore’s urban paradise reputation
Singaporeans were salvaging cars, soaked belongings and damaged goods on Sunday after a third flash flood in two months submerged low-lying areas of the city-state.
Shops and houses along posh Orchard Road were again hit by floods on Saturday after heavy rain overwhelmed the drainage system of the wealthy metropolis, which is often lauded for its excellent urban management.
The flooding took place just before parliament was to debate the issue on Monday following public clamour for explanations for earlier floods, which are normally associated with neighbouring capitals like Manila and Jakarta.
Residents in affected houses hauled out sodden furniture and opened windows and doors on Sunday after muddy water from overflowing canals receded.
“We never had floods like that,” said Peter Wong, 49, a long-time resident in a row of houses in eastern Singapore invaded by calf-high floodwaters on Saturday.
“Everything was gone, the carpets as you can see are damaged, the bottom of all the sofa seats are still soaking wet now, after 24 hours. We had to replace a new fridge, the fridge is totally damaged,” Mr Wong said.
“I’m trying to keep a cool head over this but it is frustrating. My life is disrupted,” added the hotelier, who failed to take out insurance against “acts of God” like floods.
The Straits Times said some restaurants lost live fish stored in tanks.
A major highway was also closed for two and a half hours, while motorists and commuters had to be rescued from stranded vehicles, but there were no reports of major injuries.
Saturday’s flash floods were the third since June 16.
Flash floods were a rare occurrence in Singapore until recently, with a climate expert interviewed by the Straits Times attributing the problem to regional weather phenomena such as Typhoon Conson and Indonesian squalls.
Critics had blasted the Public Utilities Board for not being prepared to handle the first two floods, while the department defending itself by saying abnormal weather conditions and clogged drains were to blame.
The flooding issue has become so serious that the Singapore parliament is scheduled to address the problem when it convenes on Monday amid forecasts of more rain.
- AFP
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My opinion? I have a nagging feeling that the Marina Barrage is somehow to blame… perhaps someone more knowledgeable about Singapore’s water drainage system can investigate more on this. I recall heavier rainy seasons in the past and although low-lying places such as Upper Thomson and parts of Bukit Timah did get flooded, Orchard Road and central area were unaffected.
If a connection can be established between Marina Barrage and the recent spate of floods in the central area, the homes and businesses at the low-lying central areas or basements are doomed. Buy more insurance and invest in a canoe and some lifejackets for emergency use.
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Again the daft citizen is to be blamed because they must have forgotten to inform NEA about more fallen leaves choking the culvert. Haiz.. Singapore why so lazy never listen to the government.
PAP will never take responsibility for anything, you are lesser mortal of course you are at fault. Who the heck do you think you are? You are just a pool of smelly spool that only deserves the worst. PAP will get rid of you once after this coming election. You will easily be replaced by people who don’t complain who are unlike you. So what if they have to replace the whole entire population. Lest than a little city either in China and India should already have enough people to replace you.
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This time the answer from GOV would be saying the entire Kallang river and Kallang basin was choked with debris which caused the flood. Next few days we will see workers cleaning up Kallang river and Kallang basin, install zigzap matels gates to prevent debris from choking that caused similar flood due to drain choked in Orchard Rd in June, all kinds of theory from PUB but all talks, none worked.
Cannot blame PM for saying flood cannot be prevented, however one thing for sure his Ministers are not telling him the truth on all the issues, be it PUB or MHF(WKS) were not giving him correct feedback which making him and Singapore looking like a fool, all behaving sneakily. On one hand we are telling the world to invest here, we have all the telents, including water and flood control, yet it just proven we cannot made it. PM has failed in making sure all his department are telling the public and himself the truth apart from all these cover ups.
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@ PR CITIZEN
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@ PR CITIZEN
WTF, you MTF, what gives you the right to bite the hands that feed you, you SOB. Singaporeans are the natives, the ancestors of this country that you are sticking onto like a friggin parasite, wat gives you the right to talk them at such ways. I work for Singaporean and with Singaporean and not every FT or PR thinks like you, you dick. Maybe the reason why you chose here is because your original country cast you out for being such an a-hole. Douche!!!!
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Very easily explained:
1. 1-in-50yrs event in Northern part
2. 1-in-50yrs event in Southern part
3. 1-in-50yrs event in Yishun
4. 1-in-50yrs event in Orchard
5. 1-in-50yrs event in Balestier
6. 1-in-50yrs event in Bukit Timiah
7. 1-in-50yrs event in Scotts Road
8. 1-in-50yrs event in Stevens Road
9. 1-in-50yrs event in Katong
10. 1-in-50yrs event in Sixth Ave
Well, cant everyone see, all these are isolated 1-in-50 yrs event, so whats the problem leh?
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prshitforbrains, it is YOU FOREIGN INBRED DEGENERATE COCKSUCKING FATHER-SODDING MOTHERFUCKING BASTARD IDIOT SONS-OF-BITCHES that litter the country. Singapore was well-known internationally for being clean and green before that moron baldie lee hopelessly lost opened the floodgates and let you inbred degenerate maggot-eaters into our fair land.
You think we haven’t been to prc where you came from or worked with prc workers before? Your name alone as well as your retarded standard of English tells us all where you originated from. You prc cocksuckers don’t even know what a toilet is. I know: as an EHS officer I regularly imposed stiff penalties on you bastards at my jobsites for urinating and defecating on the worksite ITSELF instead of using the toilets.
You love living in a cesspool, FUCK OFF back to that shithole you call a country instead of polluting our homeland. And cut off that bullshit about how you are our ancestors: MY ancestors did not come from your shithole. Oh, and I hope the Three Gorges Dam collapses and wipes out your entire family for producing shit like you, except that comparing you to shit is insulting shit.
WTF, you are right: ALL the affected areas drain into the Kallang River, which is being held back by the Marina Barrage. Even with all its floodgates open or pumps running, the hydraulic gradient is too shallow to drain the water off quickly. Add to that the presence of the dam itself and its support columns, and what you get is a situation where the water cannot drain away fast enough, causing severe flooding. But don’t ever expect the PUB to admit this: that is as good as admitting they caused the problem, especially the fool who gave the order for it to be constructed without a detailed environmental impact assessment study on how it would affect the country.
Let’s hope and pray for hundreds of yog competitors to get killed by the floods or that it results in the destruction of the Marina Bay Sands IR and the new Marina Waterfront so that the elites will lose everything as well as have foreign governments demanding explanations for the deaths of their youth. ONLY THEN will baldie lee hopelessly lost FINALLY address the problem, since he won’t as long as only local lesser-mortals are affected.
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The crux of the flood is ” we change the course of nature, we changes everything”
The Marina Barrage had directly increase underground water-table.
Where previously, before the Barrage was installed, the underground water-table increase/decrease with the tide.
Now with the barrage in-placed, the ground water-table had remain constantly high, as they are meant to contain more surface run-off water.
Marina Bay reservior/catchment is fed with water from Kallang River and Singapore River and their tributories. The ground water-table along these area are increased, thus we reduces gap between surface and the water-table.
And with more buildings being build, along these tributorirs, the surface run-off increases rather than goes directly into ground.
This occurrence will remains so long as we change the course of nature.
Whether the changes in the depth/width or the course of drainage will help, that is something we have to ponder on again.
Till then, we are back to the ‘70.
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@Mee Siam: July 18, 2010 at 5:16 pm,
That’s why i beg all leaders to refrain from FORECASTING & making comments which they are not sure of nowadays pertaining to SG flooding.
Climate Change is a Reality this days!
Humans can never challenged God though some MIWs seems to claimed themselves akin like god before.
‘Once you finish all the SWEETS of your Life, the rest of BITTERS, SOURS & SPICY shall follows….’. In my opinion, Singapore had almost used up our ‘fu pao’ (Chinese translation) such that we can’t even escape God’s will.
In my personal opinions.
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Where have all the Ministers gone ?.
Did not see one (even on papers) walking in flood waters checking the ground situation etc….they left it to PUB as scape goat ?. Wah…not fair leh, we pay you so much money.
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“Pappies’ Guidebook of Floods for Dummies”. On sale now at all good bookstores. This book reviews the twelve most common reasons for floods and is specially written in simple language for daft, champion grumblers e.g., Singapore citizens. The book consists of 12 chapters,
1. The effect of blocked culvert.
2. The effect of high tide coinciding with rain.
3. The effect of a freak occurence, once in 50 years occurrence.
4. The effect of Typhoon Conson in China.
5. The effect of North East Monsoon.
6. The effect of South West Monsoon.
7. The effect of Sumatra squalls.
8. The effect of Lunar Eclipse.
9. The effect of Solar Eclipse.
10.The effect of Global Warming.
11. The effect of ElNina.
12. The effect of melting ice caps raising sea levels all over the world not just Singapore.
Grab your copy today! Free gift one family sized umbrella with party logo.
zero
ps. Just kidding!
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@Mai-hum:
July 19, 2010 at 6:34 am
You see statiscally such a series of 50-yr events can happen in such quick succession once in every 500 years. Can’t be helped.
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To PR CITIZEN: July 18, 2010 at 10:09 am
Excuse me PR Citizen…is your blain working lei…
Why are you differentiating PAP vis-a-vis Singaporeans!!
Are you implying that PAP is PAP …. and Singaporeans are Singaporeans…
Are you all right in the head? Else…by implication you are telling everyone here in the forum…PAP is not Singapore and Singaporeans are for Singapore…finally don’t forget there are Singaporean citizens in PAP…you really don’t make much sense.
Please get your points and facts across right please.
Don’t make or show yourself to the people here you are not right in the head and also not making much sense please.
Haiz.
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To PR CITIZEN: July 18, 2010 at 10:09 am
…Finally…you mention that Singaporeans are dogs….all i can do is re-quote the below:
If someone wants a sheep, then that means that he exists as one.
Antoine de Saint-Exupery (1900 – 1944)
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former. Albert Einstein (1879 – 1955)
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. Unknown
Men show their characters in nothing more clearly than in what they think laughable. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
There is nothing worse than aggressive stupidity. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Good day to you PR Citizen.
LOL.
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The last major review of drainage was in the 70s, none since then.
There has been plenty of urbanisation i.e. buildings, HDB upgrading and well intentioned efforts to cover drainage for safety … but no one wanted to anticipate the problems today. There could have been practices whereby the subsoil has been affected during project works; this would have affected how water is drained way.
On top of that, Punggol 21 is in high demand for reasons such as the waterway or is it waterfront??? In countries like Japan, incidents had happened where by methane gas were produced or generated from below the ground.
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Actually, all the flooding were intentional.
It is part of the FT INTEGRATION program to make the banglas feel at home.
It feels so much like BANGLADESH.
Pappies just love FTies.
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the other day i fetch two rich indonesians tai tai to the hermes store at liat towers. over heard one said, tks to the flood the handbag which was $35000 is now going for only $10000. better grab it other wise have to wait another 50 years before the next flood. i told her don’t worry there’ll be more such sales in december when the monsoon season starts and both of them laugh until they reach hermes and also gave me a fat tip.
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To:PR CITIZEN:
July 18, 2010 at 10:09 am
Go back home and sleep with your mother and suck breast milk.
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