Trevvy’s editors and members do not support the comments of YPAP leader Jack Lin

Since TR reported on YPAP leader Jack Lin’s labelling Singaporeans as “3rd class”, we have received numerous emails offering leads and tips on the true identity of YPAP leader Jack Lin, which includes his pictures and sexual preference.

trevvy2In one of the contributed article (letter), a self-admitted Gay reader claims that he knows Jack Lin personally and that Jack Lin is also Darklord on Trevvy (Most Visited Gay & Lesbian Portal In Singapore). This claim is supported by readers who are also members of Trevvy  with many voluntarily coming forth to confirm the identify of Darklord from Trevvy to be Jack Lin, from the Joo Chiat YEC and a member of YPAP.

These readers have also alleged that Jack Lin aka Darklord on Trevvy is  besides being Gay, also ”arrogant, offensive, vulgar, bitchy and provocative”. (YPAP leader Jack Lin is arrogant, offensive, vulgar, bitchy and provocative

I invite you guys to go to the Trevvy forum page (sgboyx) and look for yourselves at some of the shockingly vulgar things that Jack Lin has said under his moniker “DarkLord” on Trevvy. If you’re insulted by his “3rd class citizen” gaffe, ha! Just wait till you read the vile stuff he has written on Trevvy. This guy has no concept of self-censorship – he proudly boasts that he is a PAP insider and resorts to bullying and personal insults should anyone dare to disagree with him.

This has prompted the editor of Trevvy contacting us to clarify their stand in this matter. We reproduce below, their email in full without editing.

 

Message: Dear Editor of Temasek Review,

It has been brought to our attention that a person claiming to be a user of Trevvy.com has written to your website anonymously to offer to “confirm” the link between Jack Lin and a certain Trevvy user, thereby verifying rumours about the person’s sexuality.

Please be clear that we do not support the comments of Jack Lin and it is reasonable to say that this sentiment is shared by many Trevvy.com members. Evidently, many of them who are also active readers of Temasek Review judging from the comments and contributions to your site.

You have alluded to to the irrelevance of a person’s sexuality in this matter in one of your articles, saying “There are loads of gay people in Singapore – why is the public interested in this one in particular and not others? Because the other gays have not gone around offending other Singaporeans and insulting them.”

If the sole purpose of bringing sexuality into the picture is to cause embarrassment for the person in question, it would be a very deplorable act in itself. Here, we would like to urge self-restraint on all parties lest it sets a precedence for a witch hunt of gay and lesbian members in public service. We do not condone the actions of any Trevvy user or other third party in using Trevvy.com that will directly or indirectly perpetuate further homophobia and stigmatization of gay people in Singapore.

It is not our purpose to go into lengthy debates about homosexuality but we would like to leave you with a quote from Nobel laureate, Archbishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa, “It is a perversion if you say to me that a person chooses to be homosexual. You must be crazy to choose a way of life that exposes you to a kind of hatred. It’s like saying you choose to be black in a race-infected society.”

 

Regards,

Team Trevvy

 

Editor’s Note: It is not the intention of TR to advocate a witch hunt of gay and lesbian members in public service and we would like to also urge self-restraint on all parties involved.

We further reiterate our stand that Jack Lin’s sexual preference is not an issue of contention in our articles nor it is our intention to embaress him as we have nothing against anyone being Gay.

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50 Responses to “Trevvy’s editors and members do not support the comments of YPAP leader Jack Lin”

  • Kerith Ravine:

    Well, it seems to me that Trevvy is trying to dissociate themselves with our Jackie Boy.

    I also appreciate the trevvy Team in coming forward and being so honest that gays and lesbians in Singapore don’t go around offending and insulting people, calling people names.

    KR

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  • Ex ISD:

    Editor, if you want to be true to your words, simply freeze the comment section and refrain from publish any more article that is link to JL sexuality.

    Mod’s Note: There is only one contributed article mentioning Jack’s sexuality. Your request to freeze the comment section is absurd given the nature of Temasek Review being an open social networking blog.

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  • Immortal Charles Chong:

    that jack should have gaylord instead of darklord as a nickname lol

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  • Kerith Ravine:

    To:
    Ex ISD:
    August 4, 2010 at 12:37 am
    Editor, if you want to be true to your words, simply freeze the comment section and refrain from publish any more article that is link to JL sexuality.
    ———————————————————————

    I don’t think TR should stop that.

    The PAP would attack on almost anything about the opposition. They do it cleverly by means of media publishing the news.

    Take for instance Steve Chia’s case when he took photos of his maid and the WP member (forgot his name) when his wife killed his family member. PAP uses all means to discredit opposition.

    TR is opposition’s only way to expose PAP members and their supporters dirty little secrets.

    If our Jackie Boy is really gay then he probably had sex with men and boys and he has committed an offence under Penal Code 377A. He should be punished by the law.

    If the PAP wants to protect him and not do anything about him, then the PAP is harboring an offender.

    The world to me is Black and White with a few shades of grey which is quite often considered as Black.

    KR

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  • SilenceIsGolden:

    We applause the Tevvy Editor for his clarification and TR urge of self restrain.

    Being responsible readers we should be willing to be critical of the publication we support. It is mindless to support a publication unconditionally. The spirit and the soul of the publication cannot take shape if people are not willing to point out wrong doing. This is liken to many supporters of the PAP. They would support the political party even if there are blatant wrong doing and they will defend the party unconditionally. This has resulted in today PAP.

    Though Jack Lin deserves nothing better than what he is getting, TR should raise the bar of its own integrity. TR should set the standard to be admired by the MSM and not be one worst them them. It is in abhorrent of what the MSM are that TR starts to be the people’s choice of an alternative, losing the mantle of a better virtue would be TR biggest enemy.

    It is in protection of TR’s integrity that we strive to tell the hard truth and not for personal agenda.

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  • LIONS ROAR:

    The note from Trevvy’s editors is commendable.

    It is an amicable appeal to TR bloggers to more understanding of gay people here in Singapore.

    That aside,I am stll agreeable to TR commentaries on JACK LIN and the comments from its readers.

    Jack Lin started it all and like a game of tennis,TR READERS who are mainly true blue singaporeans have every right of rebuttal.

    It is in fact derogatory for singaporeans to clal their fellow singaporeans unkind names just like some daft ministers did.

    It is a wonder to me when office-bearers call for NATIONAL UNTIY but at the same time,disregard the dignity and feelings of their citizens.

    And,even more disgusting when their lackeys imitate their masters’ waywardness.

    so,TR AND READERS,i am on your side.

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  • Hogzilla:

    Mmmmm

    I don’t know why is everybody making a big huuha out of this Jack Lin. As a simple reader, I only need to know these simple things:

    1) What happened?
    2) Who is involved?
    3) When did it happen?
    4) Where did it happen?
    5) Why did it happen?
    6) How did it happen?

    Of course, after these, I also like to see the aftermath of the whole matter, including the reaction from various “communities”.

    Therefore, I don’t want to know whether this Jack Lin is a homosexual, heterosexual or bi-sexual; I don’t want to know about his family background; I don’t want too know how many times he visited the toilet a day. I don’t want to know all these. So can we just stop at the 5W1H of an incident?

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  • Let me ask Team Trevvy a question.:

    Let me ask Team Trevvy a question.

    Does being a gay gives one an immunity for nastiness ?

    Read again what the self-admitted Gay reader wrote about Jack Lin…yes again.In summary he simply says this Jack Lin is one hell of a nasty gay …Why must Team Trevvy construe it as homophobia?….

    Is Team Trevvy saying that one gay is spreading homophobia against another?…is there any logic in it!

    I would be damn Team Trevvy,come clear.You stand simply muddles the muddy waters.

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  • Rainnix:

    Kudos for Trevvy Team to clarify that the behavior of Jack Lin aka Darklord is of his own and not of the LGBT community. Those who do not understand might mistake that all LGBTs exhibit obnoxious behaviours like Jack Lin.

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  • Baey Dua Kang:

    The best thing to do is to publish all the “vile” comments that this JackoSicko has written – the public will then judge for itself what kind of character this creature is. One thing for sure, this JackoSicko has brought a lot of shame to whatever institution it is associated with.

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  • John Tan:

    @Let me ask Team Trevvy a question

    It’s not so much what those people who claim they are gay writing in to say how bad Jack Lin is. But its those people who already don’t like gay people add salt and vinegar (see the comments posted by them for examples) and vilify gay people when this matter doesn’t concern his sexuality.

    It’s like in Nazi Germany (where a lot of people don’t like Jews), newspaper report “the bad guy is actually a Jew”. The bad things he committed may got nothing to do with whether he is Jew or not, but by highlighting his race it provide a convenient example for people to further stigmatise Jewish people. Hence promoting racism.

    @Baey Dua Kang

    I agree with you, he brings shame to whatever he is associated with.

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  • @John Tan:

    May I just point out to John please that Trevvy is trying hard to be diplomatic for the following reasons:

    1. They depend on subscribers paying for a service. It’s free to use the website but they have an enhanced membership service called RED. RED costs are as follows: Two price plans to choose from:
    quarterly subscription at S$27 (about US$19),
    half-yearly payments at S$36 (about US$26). http://www.trevvy.com/red/

    RED represents an important source of income for Trevvy, so obvious they are worried that they may lose business if their members (such as DarkLord/Jack Lin) are outted as a result of their presence on Trevvy.

    2. When you use Trevvy, you are also bombarded by a lot of advertising. These advertisers are not likely to react favourably to this whole Jack Lin story as it does not put Trevvy in good light (all that talk about cyber bullying by DarkLord/Jack Lin on Trevvy etc). It’s all bad for the image of Trevvy and it can affect their advertising revenue – another major form of income for them.

    3. Trevvy was fined by the MDA back in 2005 (which led to them cleaning up the website, removing many sections to make it more G-rated). They are a business at the end of the day, they just wanna keep a low profile and go on making some money. They don’t need their name to be in the headlines again and spark off another MDA investigation.

    Hence the “diplomatic” statement. Don’t forget, Trevvy is not some kind of gay right organisation. Oh no. They are just a business trying to make a profit at the end of the day and times are hard.

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  • @John Tan above.

    Your concerns for Trevvy while logical is uncalled for. If Jack Lin is indeed Darklord on Trevvy, then he is protected by the famiLEE Law and as such, no agencies in Sinkapore is going to touch him or torch his ‘playground’, ie: Trevvy.

    REMEMBER that under the famiLEE Law, no PAPies can ever make mistake, only “misquoted” and “taken out of context”, agree not?

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  • sad:

    I have trawled through a lot of trevvy posts by Lin Xinli. I realise that Jack-off was responsible for many derogatory and some HOMOPHOBIC remarks on trevvy. Is it a case of DOUBLE STANDARDS?

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  • @sad, I havent had time to go through Trevvy but taking your word for it, are you implying that Trevvy condone Jack’s HOMOPHOBIC remarks on Trevvy?

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  • John Tan:

    If my original comments sounded like I’m showing concern for anyone or any entity then maybe I have expressed myself too poorly. I’m merely trying to point out the logic of why it can become construed as stigmatizing.

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  • Al Ng:

    Jack was wrong to make those comments about Singaporeans but there is no need to drag out his sexuality to attack him. He is obviously a young punk who has issues and goes around criticizing everyone and everything but to attack him with his sexuality is as low as he is.

    TR should exercise restrain in this matter as well. An open forum does not mean a free for all forum. And by linking his sexuality with his behaviour, TR is alienating itself from many gay supporters.

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  • Guy Sucks:

    Why every one is afraid of Gay?
    I think being Gay is not a crime, it’s a sickness, But some of them like to screw each other anus, well that is also fine, as long as they do it behind close doors but if a Gay try to touch me, I will break his nose. That’s where I draw the line.

    I have gay friends, they are very nice and creative people and I treat them like any other friend, I’m not afraid to be seen with them or do I make fun of them.

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  • @FE II:

    FE II, Trevvy tolerates Jack Lin’s bullshit on Trevvy, the moderators there have a light-touch approach to moderation and censorship and with one exception, they seem to do virtually nothing about Jack Lin’s posts there and have allowed him to run amok in a consequence free environment. They rely on volunteers to police the forums as moderators – and these volunteers don’t seem to have enough time to do their jobs. They have all these ‘house rules’ on Trevvy, none of which are observed nor enforced. It’s like a school where the students break all the rules because the teachers ‘bo chup’ and look the other way than get involved.

    I don’t think it’s an issue of Trevvy actively condoning Jack’s homophobic remarks – it’s just that they can’t be asked to moderate. They’re too busy flogging RED memberships and ads on their websites, trying to make money.

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  • seven deadly sins:

    I am baffled, this Jack guy is a YPAP leader, a grassroot member and there’s no official picture of him?

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    See how easily everyone is side-tracked. I understand the big stink was initiated by this Jack’s comments about third class SG citizens. Does it make it lesser or worse if a worm, cat, dog, pedophile, etc… had said it? If it was a dog, and SPCA dissociate itself with the dog, so what? A dog will continue to bite.

    The most important then is whether the YPAP or whatever official affilitation will castrate, err.. sorry castigate,.. him. If an office bearer can’t control his mouth, heart or balls, then why should the authorities expect the public to trust him on a national level, where the discernment of service to the people is paramount. Everyone should be more concern with Jack’s future official duties (if any) rather than his personal fantasies. Look at Bill Clinton – still respectable. Of course, he didn’t also call Americans ‘third class’.

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  • PAP Sucks:

    If the allegations about Jack Lin having gay sex is true, then he has violated Section 377A, and needs to be prosecuted.

    If PAP does not take action to investigate, then it is akin to saying Jack Lin is above the law.

    Keep in mind that CST should have sued Jack Lin for defamation.

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  • Konglong:

    While most of the comments above made clear that there is nothing bad about being gay, some comments are unfortunately homophobic and worrying:

    Beging gay is a sickness (@Guy Sucks); being gay is a preference (@opening paragraph of this story; it is not a choice; being gay is doing something wrong, like being a “pervert” or murderous (@Kerith Ravinevs on Steve Chia and a murder case).

    Unless 377A can be applied to everyone, this law should never be exercised (@Kerith Ravinevs); why should homosexual men have an extra law to get persecuted? Jack’s nastiness has nothing to do with his sexuality, else we can say that our political leaders are nasty because they are heterosexual!

    The fears stated in Trevvy’s response are well founded and thus their response is appropriate. And we still do not know if Jack is gay or not – this is irrelevant, anyway.

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  • People,

    1st – Trevvy is just giving a statement of where they stand. It has nothing to do with Jack(ass) Lin’s sexual orientation or what-so-ever. So, posting something on a “Alternative Lifestyle” website means the person is homo/bi/asexual ? Then your sight is very narrow.

    The line that Trevvy used is “It has been brought to our attention that a person claiming to be a user of Trevvy.com has written to your website anonymously to offer to “confirm” the link between Jack Lin and a certain Trevvy user, thereby verifying rumours about the person’s sexuality.“ – note, it is ‘a certain user’. Does Trevvy knows he’s so-called Gay/Bi/Queer/Asexual – the clear answer is NO. But their statement is to clear up the fact that in the event that it’s TRUE, according to the anonymous info, THEN their STAND is “Please be clear that we do not support the comments of Jack Lin”.

    Their 2nd part of the email states clearly that if Sexual Orientation used as a “weapon” (by TR or anyone else inclusive) against ‘Jack(ass) Lin’ then the “act” itself is deplorable/despicable. And this i agree with them – truly sexuality and inclination have absolutely nothing to do with how a person is online and offline.

    BUT, I’ve to give the thumbs up for TR if its true that Jack(ass) Lin is a “Closeted Gay” within YPAP. Because, it goes to show the integrity of the Members of YPAP – putting up a facade in front of their “Comrades” (i presume Jack(ass) Lin doesn’t go around strutting the fact that he’s “broken wristed” YET the irony of things, that he “proudly” presents that he’s a strong and “influential” YPAP member and therefore he can “do things”.

    I cannot imagine, how they chooses key leaders of their YPAP team. Is it thru deceit and political gameplay that these people climb the ranks? IF so, are they truly spending their time giving results to the community or are they out for their own benefits?

    Food for thoughts from a uneducated Beng but with his very valuable two cents worth.

    *peace out

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  • D:

    Thank you for the clarification Trevvy :)

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  • 3rd Crass Citizen:

    Yup, Jack Lin labelled me as a 3rd crass citizen. Not good for him to do that.

    Then TR published an insider info from Trevvy to tell the world that Jack Lin is a gay BUT TR is not against gay.

    If TR is not against gay, meaning TR agrees that it is perfectly alright for Jack Lin to be gay and also being gay has nothing to do with his senseless remarks. Most importantly, Jack Lin’s sexual inclination and his “3rd crass citizen” remarks are 2 separate and unrelated issues.

    Therefore, my question to TR is, why bother to bring Jack Lin being gay to light then?

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  • Future ISD:

    TR really take the comment in a ‘positive’ way. I wonder who replied. I believe what my past self mean to say was freeze the comment section for the current few articles that is on the gay issue so that ppl no longer add oil to the fire and the matter can die a natural dealth.

    Not freeze the entire comment section through out the site. Just like how some forum practice freezing thread that got out of hand.

    Editor’s Note: Your request is denied for the same reason. The comments so far is acceptable within our guidelines. Thank you for your suggestion.

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  • “has violated Section 377A, and needs to be prosecuted” @PAP Sucks

    Your comment is strong reason for repeal of 377A, because it shows how a law can be abused by a lynching squad.

    If you read in Trevvy, you will find that Jack Lin has been a defender of 377A. So you are shooting yourself in the foot.

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  • TY:

    PAP Sucks: Y should a gay be prosecuted under 377A when he has not committed any act of obscenity in the public?

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  • The Reason:

    MANY ARE FORGETTING THE FACT: ‘IT’S NOT “SOMETHING” ABOUT JACK lIN’ it is all about ‘YPAP’

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  • Let me ask Team Trevvy a question.:

    @John Tan:August 4, 2010 at 3:41 am,

    The glass is half empty or half full?…no answer right?

    Precisely.

    …but you did said people are adding salt and vinegar har?..Gosh!,how can anyone adjudicate that.

    Let say a Malay is the central figure in an issue in our Chinese centric Singapore or vice versa in Malaysia…can anyone stop racial slurs and racial profiling in the ensuing comments that follows?…can you?

    Ah,what you perhaps could have meant was stop ad hominem typo personal attacks and attack the issue in hand.That pretty much I would wish for too.But that requires a matured closed forum by invitation.Obviously TR is not.

    Welcome to world of cyber free speech era.With all its warts.Because that pretty much represent what we are.

    Until gays becomes the majority and straights minorities.

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  • Ah Boy:

    In 2007, the Ministry of Home affairs had reviewed the entire Singapore Penal Code and retained Section 377A which is the anti-gay law which criminalises sex between mutually consenting adult men.

    This Act also criminalise all other non-penetrative sexual acts between men. ‘Gross indecency’ has been applied to mutual masturbation, mutual genital contact and performing such acts in private does not constitute a defence.

    Section 377A specifically states that: “Any male person who, in public or private, commits, or abets the commission of, or procures or attempts to procure the commission by any male person of, any act of gross indecency with another male person, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term extending to 2 years”.

    The PAP regime had enacted and had retained the statute of Section 377A even after its review in 2007.

    So the dominant MIW PAP government expect all their elite PAP & YPAP party members which include YPAP leader like Joo Chiat YPAP leader Jack Lin XinLi to conform & obey and not to violate & and contravene this act of Section 377A.

    So Temasek Review is not anti-gay and any Gay who wants this Section 377A which is an anti-gay law to be repeal, revoke or rescind should take up the matter with the PAP regime instead.

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  • @3rd Crass Citizen, would it have sounded more ‘acceptable’ if instead of just mentioning that Jack is Gay, the writer of the article simply call Jack a GIGOLO?

    So and since Jack merely CALLED Sinkaporeans “3rd class”, it is much more acceptable if Netizens had called Jack a “GIGOLO” than a “GAY”?

    Is that what all here harping on the “GAY” thing is saying?

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  • Mani the Parrot:

    It is good that Temasek Review is facilitating a free open forum blog where homosexual and heterosexual can have a healthy debate on the Singapore Penal code Section 377A (anti-homosexual law) enacted and retained by the PAP ruling party.

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  • True Life:

    @SilenceIsGolden: August 4, 2010 at 12:55 am,

    For once, I must agree no more to what you had said. Indeed, TR must set a standard for itself being on par with the MSM.

    Additionally, the new media is our ONE & only medium to voice our sentiments despite many efforts by our gov to establish official web forums like the REACH to gather our feedback(moderation usually applied). That brings me to another issue;

    FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

    We acknowledge that its our ultimate RIGHT for Freedom of Speech but unfortunately, our oppressive comments always being censored by our MSMs. That’s how our media industry has been molded into this new era of 21st century. We are too ‘controlled’ in mine and foreigner’s point of view in Freedom of speeches which at times would resulted into law infringements. Yes, freedom of speech does comes with responsibilities!

    if ever our new media like TR/TOC being shut down before the next GE, it would further convince me that ‘Singaporean is without any freedom of speech’ rights to exercise at any time. We may just be like a ‘puppet/parrot’ to our prescribed ‘master’. just my thoughts & opinions.

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  • The Reason:

    I remember one of our politician told an would be opposition ‘yes, i say your are a liar’ not happy, sue me.!’

    Yes, i take offence when a ‘gay’ calls me ‘3rd class’!

    For example, if you and many thousand more are ’satan worshippers’ and when suddenly one of the ‘novice’ jumps out to call the other religion ‘gods’ as 3rd class gods in the public, naturally it is offensive. (maybe one of you would have killed him by now)
    When you want to make a mark in this country, remember to be like the ‘MIW’ or else you can shipout!

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  • Have you guys even bothered reading the trevvy forum?:

    Aiyoh. Have you guys even bothered reading the Trevvy forum, let alone dig for what DarkLord/Jacklin has posted in the past over the years?

    DarkLord, Jack Lin’s alter ego there, has talked about ex-boyfriends, the specifics of gay sex and other things pertaining to man-to-man sexual activities. I find it hard to believe that this makes him a straight man who is simply curious and knowledgeable about gay sex.

    You’re not a straight man if you go onto a gay forum and bitch about your ex-boyfriend. Please make the effort to visit http://www.trevvy.com/sgboyx/ and read up on what DarkLord has posted there before you comment any further on what Jack Lin has done there.

    He used to have a profile full of personal info and photos – then suddenly, when all this errupted, all the personal info and photos disappeared and his sexuality on his profile went from gay to straight. Miracle cure or what? Or super coincidence? Timing very fishy leh.

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  • John Tan:

    @Let me ask Team Trevvy a question

    That’s why the police charge people for sedition if you make racial slurs in Singapore but for sexuality there’s no such protection because people think it’s a lifestyle and choice. Yet religion is very much a choice and people still get protection. So ultimately it’s not about half full or half empty, it’s about double standards and who’s the underdog.

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  • Whoosh:

    @The Reason
    “Yes, i take offence when a ‘gay’ calls me ‘3rd class’!”

    What does he being gay have to do with you being third class? Why point out he is gay at all? Why are you(and others, including TR “editors”) obssessed over his sexuality? Surely there are other things about him that you can focus your anger on.

    Oh, and your analogy which compares gays to ’satan worshippers’? First class?

    Once again people miss the point of Team Trevvy’s letter completely.

    P.S. TR editor: you don’t have to capitalise the word gay.

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  • The Reason:

    Whoosh:
    August 4, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    You may just whoosh away!

    Be gay by all means. Just stop getting approvals for your sexual preference.
    All of you know for a fact, that wasn’t the way you came to be your parents beloved child!

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  • CSIfied:

    @Have you guys even bothered reading the trevvy forum?:

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:bxo6k_04OeIJ:www.trevvy.com/dockets/docket.php%3Fid%3D14856+www.trevvy.com/%3FDarklord&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk

    According to the profile cache, it was changed in June or even earlier.

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  • 3rd Crass Citizen:

    @Forecaster Extraordinarie II:
    August 4, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    You miss my point.

    I give analogy to help you understand. I was rejected by my ex-gf, I expressed my sadness on my blog. Then I received a private message from my ex’s lady friend, informing me that my ex got fake boobs! Oh my gosh, I was not aware cos we had not reached the level of intimacy. Then I tell the whole world that I have received credible info that my ex has fake boobs on my blog. But hor, I also state that I have nothing against women who go for boob jobs as I feel that it is their decisions and no one should judge whether it is right or wrong to have boobs enlarged artificially. Most importantly, it had nothing to do about us breaking off.

    Now, someone left a comment on my blog, asking since I am not against anyone with fake boobs and it had got nothing to do with our break off, why did I then make known to the whole world that she has fake boobs?

    How should I answer this?

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  • The reason,

    will you take offense if a sexy lesbian call you 3rd class more so then a straight man calling you 3rd class?

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  • The Reason:

    Emm Yong,

    Are you calling Sinha(also from YPAP like Jack) a sexy lesbian? lol.
    For your info this ‘thing’ called us Singaporean ‘Dogs’ that includes you too!

    Maybe you are not aware of all the other name callings we have been attacked with, here!

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  • Magi:

    Actually, it’s quite obvious his sexuality has nothing to do with the issue right?

    People were already upset prior to this expose on the sexuality.

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  • @3rd Crass Citizen:, did your ex-girlfriend with the fake boobs called you a faggot?

    In this case as comparison, Jack Lin did, so its an eye for an eye, sounds fair?

    Besides, TR did not called Jack Lin a GAY, his ex-boyfriends DID. :)

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  • @CSIfied:

    For someone who claims to be a CSI, your work is hardly thorough. Why don’t you dig up some of DarkLord/Jack Lin’s old posts (still there on Trevvy) where he is:

    - bitching about his ex boyfriend
    - giving advice on gay sex in great detail
    - using extremely offensive language to insult others

    Like I said, his sexuality is not the issue here – his integrity is. His offensive language on Trevvy is. Do your job properly if you wanna claim to be a CSI cos you suck at it.

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  • 3rd Crass Citizen:

    @Forecaster Extraordinarie II:
    August 5, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    Thanks for clarifying. So at least I know that TR published the info on Jack being a gay is “an eye for an eye”.

    In that case, why don’t you guys just make it clear from the start? Why go through so much trouble to add in an Editor’s note at the end of the article to say things like we have nothing against gay, blah blah blah.

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  • I am supporting TR on this one.

    It is not an issue about discriminating against gays, neither is it we have something against homosexual politicians. The issue here is that a YPAP member, holding the reputation of his party, is promoting gay sex using his alter-ego forum accounts. There is no question that sexual acts amongst homosexuals is illegal in Singapore, a law set by the very own organization he is representing. He is not setting up a good example by not following the law.

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  • I’ve been reading your posts for the last couple of hours, and it all has been very informative and well written. I did want to allow you know that for some reason this post doesn’t seem to work in Internet Explorer. On a side note, I had been wondering if you wanted to swap blogroll links? I hope to hear from you soon!

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