Participant of “I Hate YOG” Facebook arrested by Police
August 25th, 2010 | 
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A participant of the popular “I hate YOG” Facebook” Mr Abdul Malik Muhammad Ghazali was arrested by the police yesterday for a comment he posted on Facebook.
Malek wrote on Facebook that he was questioned by the police from Bedok Police Division on the charge of “inciting violence and public disorder” under Section 267 Chapter 244 of the penal code. His laptop was also seized.
[Source: I hate YOG Facebook]
The news was reported in page four of The New Paper today.
In an email reply to Temasek Review, Mr Malik said he was arrested over a particular comment he left on the Facebook and was questioned over his involvement with the “I hate YOG” Facebook and his political affiliations:
“The official reason given was the particular comment, but they did question about my involvment in the Facebook group as well. Such as, why did I start a Facebook page, what was my problem with the YOG, did I join any political party, etc.
Fixating on the specific words is, in my opinion, very shallow of them as they are not reading with understanding, although the meaning is quite clear.
On a side note, the reporter did mention to me this morning that the police are uncomfortable with the media inquiries about this case. They do not want to be seen as “heavy-handed”. This is because the charge is very subjective and the police do not wish to look bad in the light of the criticisms of the YOG.”
According to The New Paper article, Mr Malik posted a comment written in capital letters saying that the incident showed it was time to “burn” the minister.
In the same posting, he also called on the public to “rally together”.
[Source: The New Paper page 4, 25 August 2010]
Mr Malik had earlier posed several difficult questions about the YOG to PAP MP and Young PAP Vice Chairman Mr Zaqy Mohamad on his Facebook which he was unable to answer such as the recent mass food poisoning outbreak involving 21 YOG volunteers:
Mr Zaqy subsequently removed Mr Malik as a friend from his Facebook.
Started only two weeks ago, the Facebook has garnered more than 2,700 friends so far.
The founder of the Facebook Mr Edmund Khor just clarified that he has not been called up for questioning by the police yet.
We would like to appeal to readers who are privy to or has information pertaining to this incident to contact us via our online submission form and provide more information so we can follow up.
[Please sign the petition demanding a public apology from Dr Vivian Balakrishnan for mismanaging the YOG here.]
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Wow so jialat! Shouldn’t Malik go to the foreign press which are still in singapore and tell them about government atrocity?
Or is Adam Malik another TR alter ego?
Mod’s note: Please buy a copy of the The New Paper and read page 4.
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The King foot soldiers will eliminate all anti voices. Do you think they allow us to voice our opinion ? This is Singapore.
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Got meh? Like that also can arrest one yah? What’s wrong if some people don’t like World Cup said it in their FB,also can kena arrest Police so stupid one,if like that we need to recruit at least 100,000 FTs to join our Police force just for YOG (or future events)liao.Somemore our prisons sure not enough lor,must convert HDB flats to lock up these YOG critics.Also don’t forget we need more judges,prosecutors,jail wardens,etc…….WOW! that means our economy sure become “betterer”,and GDP sure go up one!
Of course,credit must go to PAP lor.At least we must increase their pay again lah (to show our appreciation for their “creative creation”of jobs for FTs)!
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MSM not powerful enuf they now using other ways?
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Haha… it’s definitely a real person…
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The funny thing about most “Netizens” that post negative comments or vulgarity were convicted for some misdeeds or have dirty linen hidden in closets.Hmmmmmmmmm I really wonder?
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See la… YOG ending soon, government start to bully citizens again. What’s new?
Nothing to see here folks, move along…
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Let’s gather all the facts first before making any conclusion. Can we get Edmund about it? If PAP is suppressing freedom of speech because they don’t like people disagreeing to SG organizing the YOG, Singapore is really finished…
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We are all confirmed in NORTH KOREA.
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Don’t understand why saying they hate YOG would cause PUBLIC disorder? i guess better get e facts right before saying anything
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Should make this issue as big as possible to spoil PAP’s reputation during this election period and to make it even clearer that PAP is an authoritarian state and there is totally no freedom of speech.
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This is very good liao
In the past, he will be charge as communist guy
But, b’cos PAP always sent their member to China for training
China sent their CCCP officals to Singapore for training
So, they cannot charge him under ISD
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I do not hate YOG. I hate how the volunteers are being treated poorly and some of the unreasonable things the organisers did (food poisoning, forcing students to attend/volunteer, etc.) In fact, I went to watch some of the games and I feel they played really well.
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Other than the $130 fine for not giving way to yog vehicles, saying “I hate yog” would command imprisonment because of public disorder act? Funny, suddenly I felt like i’m north korean…
Should forward the findings to IOC to tell them that we done a good job in making everyone ‘like’ yog…
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Again ,scaring tactics.
Thanks to the majority daft.
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Why must everyone love YOG? If this article is true, WKS and SPF must give Singaporean very good reason to justify their action.
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To 北韩: August 25, 2010 at 10:51 am
We are not in North Korea.
We are undergoing or already aligning to becoming another cheap copy cat or knock off of North Korea.
Sekali North Korea decides to sue some of these so called MIW “intellectuals” for infringement of IP copy right acts…then only then we know the “truth”.
And the “truth” is…well, some folks in white just can’t handle the “truth”…and still living in lala land or are already dinosaurs but just refuse to go away…thus so you see all these wayang, self attention showing and the usual BS gimmicks.
Xianz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm5-nNdse-Q&feature=related
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New York Times, IHT, Daily Telegraph, Reuters and other well known news agencies might be interested to cover his arrest.
Please contact them.
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why not allow to comment opinions ? sillyporeans need to wake up or ….
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Anyone knows any western media? Can email them about this? YOG might become famous internationally afterall – for the wrong reason!
HAHAHAHA!
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containing any incitement to violence or counselling disobedience to the law ( YOG is LAW meh? ) or to any lawful order of a public servant ( YOG is PUBLIC SERVENT meh? )or likely to lead to any breach of the peace ( complain bout YOG is a breach of peace? )
OMG
wad kinda reason is tis
trying to arrest citizen hu do not noe the law?
lol
sometimes the SPF really go arrest ppl but then using law but then if u read the law u find that thr r almost no link
haiz….
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What were Adul Malek’s questions.
I know and can see that the Malay community in Singapore is going through a tough time. So many things have changed for them, they are fighting for survival. Not them alone, most local Singaporens are.
If he had asked pertinent questions, why arrest him, Please TR put up the FB page, the questions. I am sure we will get a better picture.
I am glad TR can assure us of their privacy policy. Wonderful.
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To Kojakbt: August 25, 2010 at 10:47 am
I am sorry…need to add something to think and re-think over further…
Did Singapore actually organize this YOG or the PAP government on behalf of Singapore origanize this?
Well…
Good day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi1A9s6WTiw&feature=related
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that’s it. i’m removing temasekreview from my facebook just in case.
i don’t like to drink kopi.
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i rant about sbs all the time on my twitter.
am i gonna get arrested too?
but i have every reason to rant because the bus takes like 15mins or more to arrive! wtf!
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Abdul Malek is really unfortunate. The purpose of arresting him has nothing much to do with his dislike for YOG. It is done to show the people living here that there is a price to be paid for free speech.
The authorities are afraid that people will get more VOCAL if this “I hate YOG” facebook page setup is allow to pass without any incident.
If people are allow to get more VOCAL, they will post their opinions on more issues which may threaten the present party’s rule.
It’s definitely easier to rule over a bunch of sheeps that a den of ROARING LIONS!
THE POWER OF THE VOICE.
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wah lao… all of us better watch our back. voicing out public opinion also not permitted, this is singapore, not pyongyang…. oh my gosh… wakey wakey, time to wake up.
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YOU LOVE YOG, YOU THINK OLD FART INVITE YOU GO OXLEY ROAD DRINK TEA HAR? CAST PAP OUT.
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Molina Han went thru alot of details of privacy and security, yet failed to mentioned that the issue of servers location is only one minor aspect of the full story; becos of more importance is the fact that all messages and postings to sites like this are relayed, captured and monitored by our local service providers that are under 1 umbrella and control hence privacy and security in the sense you mentioned are nonsense.
Mod’s note: Which is why she did mention the setting up of a VPN if budget permits, guess you missed that.
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Mmmm….
If true, then how about previously many people oppose building casino in SG. In return, they push ahead & built 2 instead.
Should that also be consider as “inciting violence and public disorder”?
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What exactly is the comment based on which Malek was questioned by the Police? Can the editor please cite it here so there is no need for everyone to jump the gun and draw unnecessary conclusions? I am seeing an incomplete picture here, without citing the exact comment from Malek, this is like fanning the fire.
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Dear bros and sis, you have nothing to fear if you speak the truth and adhere to the truth. In my view, there is nothing wrong to disagree with the establishment for organizing this YOG in the first place.
I don’t think Singapore is ready for organizing such an event when internally in Singapore, there are so many problems plaguing Singaporeans. We may be a first world country on per capita GDP basis but, let’s ask ourselves, do we all feel like living in a first world country? Is our quality of life 1st world? Do you fear that if you lose your current job now, you may not be able to get a better one next time? Did you have such fear, say, 10 years ago?
With such worries and pressure in our minds, who would have the right mind to go attend and support YOG? I tell you, bros and sis, even if the Olympics was organized here, the support will be lukewarm at best!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivian_Balakrishnan
“Anonymity in cyberspace is an illusion…..if need be, we can identify you, and if we have to, we will be prepared to prosecute you.”, 21st Feb 2009, Channel NewsAsia.”
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Can the IOC head please comment?
YOG takes place in his country and an individual who did not like it expresses his dislike publicly.
Would that be a matter for the authorities to investigate?
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To sturmtruppen: “Did Singapore actually organize this YOG or the PAP government on behalf of Singapore origanize this?”
Well, certainly PAP didn’t hold a national referendum or conduct a survey of any kind when they decided to organize this YOG… LOL!
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To sturmtruppen: someone in 3in1kopitiam mentioned that YOG was in fact Teo Ser Luck’s idea in the first place but gets “stolen” by Vivian… don’t know how true it is… LOL!
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poor guy… prolly singled out because he can’t defend himself.
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I thought Spore is a “free of voicing out our opinions” country. Why of all people catch a innocent guy who makes remarks without vulgarities on YOG? Singaporeans, haiz . . . .
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The SPF & PAP had better be careful with what they’re doing. Don’t forget that GE is due soon. If they misuse their power, it’ll only irk pple more and make the MIWs lose more votes nia.
Do we want to vote for this kind of gahmen and continue to live in fear with no freedom for almost everything????? We aren’t their puppets!!!!!!!
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To Kojakbt: August 25, 2010 at 11:46 am and 11:48 am
You actually made me smile for the 1st time this morning with your rational and factual statement.
Thank you very much : )
And yes…i heard this as well from my bruder who are “rub shoulder rub shoulder” with the goons in white.
No wonder Sir Luck always has that “constipated” or “forced” look at times [he should lose it cos it is too obvious liao] behind Vivian as Vivian step forward to take “public adulation” fake and real right out there in the glare of the local “media” : (
Haiz.
Must shine lei for Singapore and its people no matter what truely and not at the behest of self serving and sacrifice others agenda ; )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwC1Ctrj6Xk&feature=av2e
Good day.
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Very disappointing that the govt has failed to address our concerns and reservations about this sorry state of affairs. To spend so much money in these economic times and to get nothing quite tangible from it all is just not right.
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why TR did not publish the comment make by Malek?
IF Malek had posted, lets rape the PRC ger or poison their food then i think he deserve the kopi.
otherwise, lets all be daft and jump to conclusion.
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The full story is published in this morning’s New Paper. I already expected something like this is bound to happen. The poor guy is simply made a scapegoat of the circumstances. This is NOT a democratic society after all. Instead of putting rightful public explanations to justify their actions, the ‘top management’ simply keep quiet and let their ‘cronies’ do their dirty work.
Are they even aware that they are elected by the ppl? Politicians serve the people you know? Not the other way round! Using tactics as such really exhibits the lvl of integrity they have. But, keep in mind, there is always a borderline to everything. No Political Rule lasts forever. You can only stuff the cork over the bottle neck for so long.
There will definitely be a point of time when the ppl will get so sick and the pressure is gonna burst out of control.
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Most negative comment if known to too much public support. The foot soldier can use law such as public disorder to counter you. there no way to run.
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I soft soft say: ge is coming. Dont arrest me please.
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all singaporeans will be put behind bars after games.
all foreigners will be allowed in to take over the island, including the gov offices, as all singaporeans are “fixed”.
nation undergo rehabilitation, massive scale, “BRAINWASHING” on how to love the gov, full heart and mind, plus pockets too, irregardless of come what may….
hip hip hooray …..great place to stay….
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why would police & important enforcement resources be deployed on activity which is not criminal in nature.
was the reason for & the exacting action / words culminating in the arrest specifically stated instead of quoting the seemingly general clause covered by statute.
for every person who loves YOG & who reinforces their love through hard voluntary work or personal expenses. there are others who are not supportive and reinforce their dislike & hate through loud vociferous disagreements.
a case of killing the chicken to scare of the other monkeys ???
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Let me tell you how to “Fix” such people and legally put them away for good.
1st send them to the mad house for evaluation
Doctor will report that he is slightly mad and needed treatment.
Court will say OK, since he is mad, then we will not jail him but he must be warded for treatment and monitor
Then the mad house doctor will finish him off, by time he is done with the “treatment” he will be mad
Go watch a old classic movie call “Once flew over the cuckoo’s nest”
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with these arrest
i am too scare to write anything
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beetroot:
you are so damn wrong
even RIM has to bow to government
what do you think TR
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See la this government why so scared of bad publicity and now intimidating its very own citizens whose crime is just being unhappy and criticize but as its interpreted as inciting violence and public disorder.
WOW I never understood and realise it is sooooo easy to incite violence in singapore me??? Who is the one who feels that singapore is THAT UNSTABLE that some comments on the net is deemed to incite violence.
Like that al qaeda’s messages on the net how ah???
Please la – ALL of us Better vote many many many opposition MPs in to defend netizens who are definitely good citizens with heart for singapore thats WHY they CRITICISE.
At the end not suprising monkey officials ban us from this from that – wtf!!!
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SINGAPORE has retained the title of the most popular city for international meetings for the third consecutive year .
The award is given out by by the Union of International Associations (UIA), a research institute and documentation centre based in Brusse
From a fishing village and one of M’sia state to an independent country achiving above.
How can we not love PAP leaders especially LKY ? How can we be so ungrateful ? This message should be sent to all Singaporeans.
What is that small amount of salary comparing to the hundreds of achivements they have achieved ?
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I certainly do thing that situation has come close to a “Boiling Point”.Infact, I won’t be surprised that if a “Couple more or so stupid and insensitive action is thrown back at True Blues face”…I am not surprised that “all hell will break loose”.
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Ok ok… For those who are still in disbelief whether this article is true or not, let me state: It is TRUE.
What happened (the facts – opinions aside) is true. Since the police already have my internet nickname, I might as well reveal it.
I was the joker who got to drink kopi at the Bedok Police Station with GIS-04. Yes, I am that guy Abdul Malik.
To their credit, if you co-operate with the police, they won’t treat you badly. I was treated okay by them, and they were kind enough to spare me the humiliation of being handcuffed at my workplace. I really have to thank them for that.
I won’t place the blame on them. They are acting on orders and they are pretty professional about it. I have been in a similar position to theirs, so I understand what they are going through.
Nonetheless, I still state that I have done nothing wrong. It is entirely subjective (the charge, that is) and if it rubbed anyone the wrong way then it’s not my fault. It wasn’t meant to defame anyone personally. It is my own critical opinion of the YOG and the SYGOC (and related persons).
How is this construed as “inciting violence and public disorder” is really beyond me, and I have re-iterated that to the police. I maintain that (to me), I am NOT GUILTY.
This is one of those laws that have a very broad and subjective interpretation. Not as if it’s CBT, which is pretty clear cut. The lines are blurred here. I don’t envy the IO’s job, which must be tough with pressure from “upstairs”.
I’m just waiting and seeing what happens next.
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Sooooo…..based on the claims of the SPF. Why don’t the SPF go after STOMP? Lots of anti-YOG comments in there.
Chey….bully a small fish to scare the other fishes. MIW think they still in primary/secondary school? No wonder they wear white like school uniform.
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There is nothing wrong with hating YOG or anything related to the PAP. The issue is that the phrase, “burn the minister” was used. Of course the PAPies are scared because one of their own dogs, MP Ong Seng Heng, got burned by a Singaporean. TO us it may be trivial but the PAP ministers are really afraid of being hurt by the public. Of course, if they were real politicians out to help the people then they wouldn’t be so afraid but they seem only interested in other matters such as ensuring that FTs are well taken care off.
Don’t be afraid to speak your mind but be mindful of what you post especially words or phrases or sentences that may seem to incite violence towards a paranoid group of people.
As much as we want them to appreciate our feelings, let us also appreciate their paranoia at being burned or hurt. Let’s leave violence out of it. We have more ammunition using their own words against them.
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@ sweeney 38: – August 25, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Have you been licking so much of the familLEE arse that your brain is now so constipated with OLD FART’S shit ?!
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This is PREPOSTEROUS!!!
What is wrong in stating the truth? Are we not allow to
complain or air our views, when things go wrong???
Hosting Kids’ YOG @ $387 millions is, absolutely ridiculous!!
I SAY IT AGAIN. YOG IS A TOTAL FLOP!!!
Cheers
PAP SURE LOSE
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“questioned over his involvement with the “I hate YOG” Facebook and his political affiliations”
How does a citizen’s political affiliation come into the scope of the investigation? Is the police responsible for eradicating citizens’ existence for holding a political view other than that of the ruling party? Aren’t these police supposed to be neutral and serving the citizens rather than serve the interest of the ruling party?
If this is true, our opposition should stand up to voice up this concern, otherwise, they really do not have any backbone, like the ministers.
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Okay… The quote was (off the top of my head):
“IT’S TIME FOR v.B. AND THE PAP TO BURN FOR THIS INCIDENT!”
It’s somewhere around the time of the food poisoning scandal, on the I Hate The YOG Organising Committee page…
There was also a post which had the word “rally” in it:
“Singaporeans should rally together…”
If someone could help TR dig through the old posts, I’m sure you will find it there.
All I remember (from what the IOs tell me) was the words “burn” and “rally” which were offensive. I guess my Literature background didn’t do me good this time. (Those were bloody metaphors, lah… Is my English that cheem for them?)
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@Incred:
Wei… don’t blame the all-white uniform okay… I used to wear a school uniform like that… =(
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Singapore has achieved hundreds of international achievements since independence.
We should be grateful to thank our PAP leaders especially LKY.
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we must not be afraid, bros n sis, can u marked all forumners?
he wrote to zaky, this fela may have complained, so called up to drink kopi, next, sure kena.
still, we have to soldier on for our sg or our contry will be taken over by foreiners n sold by traitors.
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August 25, 2010 at 1:22 pm
There is nothing wrong with hating YOG or anything related to the PAP. The issue is that the phrase, “burn the minister” was used. Of course the PAPies are scared because one of their own dogs, MP Ong Seng Heng, got burned by a Singaporean. TO us it may be trivial but the PAP ministers are really afraid of being hurt by the public. Of course, if they were real politicians out to help the people then they wouldn’t be so afraid but they seem only interested in other matters such as ensuring that FTs are well taken care off.
Don’t be afraid to speak your mind but be mindful of what you post especially words or phrases or sentences that may seem to incite violence towards a paranoid group of people.
As much as we want them to appreciate our feelings, let us also appreciate their paranoia at being burned or hurt. Let’s leave violence out of it. We have more ammunition using their own words against them.
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Oh YAH… I forgot about that… no wonder they so uptight about it… sighz… Hmmm, it’s a case of misread intentions then, I think.
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["According to The New Paper article, Mr Malik posted a comment written in capital letters saying that the incident showed it was time to “burn” the minister. In the same posting, he also called on the public to “rally together”.]
Walao eh, the mere mention of “burning a minister” is ground for arrest and conviction? Not that this Malik is some hotshot with thousands of followers who will obediently do his bidding and actually burn a millister. KNN, the Police all eat PIG BRAIN when growing up issit?
So by the same logic:
1. if I DREAMT YESTERDAY that I murdered a Millister, I should also be arrested for ATTEMPTED MURDER or MURDER since I DID DREAM and thus the “intention” inference?
2. If I posted the “PAPies and their croonies should all BURN IN HELL”, then I am also to be arrested because I attempted to incite HELL to burn them or I threatened to burn them in HELL?
BTW, what the fiack has an accused Political Affiliations got to do with an investigation into Section 267? Is the Police implying that should the accused claims he is loyal to the PAPies, then he will be let off with a warning or is the Police trying to FISH for information to be presented to their MASTERS on a platter so that the PAPies can use it against the Oppositon Party whom the accused claims affiliation to and accuse the Opposition Party of the same inciting and abetment, fixing the Opposition party once-and-for-all?
Twsited Leaders = Twisted Laws = Twisted Logic ???
When I was in the system Donkey Years ago, Scholars in the service used to have BRAINS, what happened?
‘G’ DIVISION (BEDOK POLICE DIVISIONAL HQ)
Commander ‘G’ Div DAC TEO Chun Ching
62447100 [email protected]
Deputy Commander ‘G’ Div SUPT Wilson LIM Hock Lee
62447345 [email protected]
Head Investigation DSP GOH Tat Boon
62447101 [email protected]
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To Kestrel83:
I hope that nothing happens to u & pray hard that justice be done.
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What about Ching CHong Charlie on YOung PAP?
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To “Nonsense” at posted August 25, 2010 at 11:38 am
That’s why we need HTTPS when posting messages. TLS/SSL ensures confidentiality and authenticity.
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FE II, if u go post on George Yeo’s FB and say, its time for singaporean to rally around me and burn the minister. you see what happen la.
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Kindly ignore comments by sweeney 38.
Its not written by me, but by an impersonator.
Henceforth, I will end my comments with:
Cheers
PAP SURE LOSE
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It’s a sad day to SINK so low as to scare off our poor citizens from making comments that may not agree with the MIWs.
Have our MIWs and civil servants forgotten our national pledge: to build a DEMOCRATIC society, based on JUSTICE and EQUALITY??
Look like we need many more years to be really democratic. Right now, it feels like North Korea.
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This is absolute rubbish. Ok so “burn the minister” should be taken so seriously? Have we placed so much emphasis on brain power that we created a leadership of human supercomputers that have forgotten how to be human? Who cower at the slightest threat then throw the heavy book at an ordinary citizen? Is that what a leader is supposed to be? I’m sorry but I thought leaders were supposed to be strong, thats why the weak ones follow them. At least the old guard had more guts to confront any dissident straight in the face
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YOG closing so fast, nobody felt a things
Weather station say tonight rainy, cold & wet
Those want to attend YOG disco better wear slipper carry umbrella
NTU Pro John Harrison “another useful ang mo idiots” talk about live videos as the main culprit on the hijack on the bus. If that is the case, then why CNA don’t take it “off the air” talk like an angel, as if she is so innocent. What piss-off the Rolando, was the 1)authority mishandled the situation by arresting his brother. His brother actually help the release of some hostages.
2) They blew the tyres with a loud bang. Professional police force would hide at 1 corner & release the air, while delivering the foods and fuels
3) They could only afford to buy 1 sledge-hammer? Professional police force would had used a small dose of C-4 on the front, back, and side of the bus
4) They used a straw rope to pull open the bus door??? Can’t they afford to buy a metal chain???
5) The authority ignore his appeal. This is “ang mo striaght” instead of asking him to resign quietly they fired him with charges.
6) The negotiator is useless
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Gentlemen, please realized that the next General Election will be our only salvation for many years to come. If you still want complain about PAP and in the end still vote for them, then i will say ‘you ask for it’.
Do the right thing, vote more opposition in is the only way to check on PAP.
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Aiyoh, if the Poll-lees can handcuff a reporter taking flood pictures for his “own safety” and still defended and repeated by no less our Lawless Millister, what else is shocking? Allo Allo !
Singapore runs by whims and fancy Singapore laws, never International laws.
Now cannot use the word “burn” even during Hungry Ghost Month. Some Ghost In White cannot stand being identified as (L)ying (H)ungry (L)eeches.
Boo !
Lim Pei “BERN” Incense Swee Swee has spoken
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DON’T WORRY U’LL BE FINE. I’LL PRAY HARD RAINING FLOOD ALL ELITE MINISTERs…lol
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still remember the case of a person telling lee yi shyan “don’t let history repeat itself” and he was charged in court. that shows the paranoia facing PAP MPs now.
my advice is to exercise discretion in posting esp. if you want to rant at them, unless you like to drink kopi
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Forecaster Extraordinarie II: August 25, 2010 at 1:36 pm
don’t play play. wait they take ur words literally & @ face value. you watch Inception right about dreams. they may think it is going to be real.
they will never have thought that you may have been misinterpreted or misunderstood. these are only reserved for people of higher cabliber because when they speak a higher language, people tend to misinterpret and misunderstand.
they will never have thought that the words you utter were spoken in context. wait you get booked, then you know. book you first, then onus is on you to prove otherwise. so don’t play play ok.
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Instead of trying to do damage control over a whole host issues with the public, the PAP is playing hardball again.
Such arrogance!
The PAP is acting as if the governing of this country is their god given right! Mandate from heaven!
PAP is behaving as if there are the “elite royal family” of S’pore and no one is suppose question or oppose them concerning this mandate. Come to think of it, no one is suppose to criticise them on anything.
Pure unadulterated arrogance!
By this arrest, the PAP has dug a deeper hole for itself.
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[Nonsense: Molina Han went thru alot of details of privacy and security, yet failed to mentioned that the issue of servers location is only one minor aspect of the full story; becos of more importance is the fact that all messages and postings to sites like this are relayed, captured and monitored by our local service providers that are under 1 umbrella and control hence privacy and security in the sense you mentioned are nonsense.]
NOT ENTIRELY TRUE: For a case of this nature to be “actionable”, the act of sending a “signal/message” is insufficient ground for a prosecution.
If you send a letter threatening to burn a Millister, the letter has to be received by the intended recipient to establish “incitement”. If your letter is lost in mail and or not delivered due to any reason, then the incitement part cannot stand.
So even if someone send an email to TR inciting violance or whatever, the authorities have to prove that TR had actually received that email (thus the need for TR’s server logs to concur) to constitute an offence. The mere act of sending the email without proving receipt is very very lame ground for prosecution, unless we are talking about PERSECUTION which then we can all BURN (oops, the sacred word) every law books in Sinkapore.
@Barrick who said: FE II, if u go post on George Yeo’s FB and say, its time for singaporean to rally around me and burn the minister. you see what happen la.
Why you so stupid? Such a posting is OBVIOUSLY threatening in nature right? Like tat also must I teach you?
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Walo eh, just a few hours, all over the Internet already. Power arrgghhh!
http://www.google.com.hk/search?hl=zh-CN&newwindow=1&safe=strict&q=Participant+of+%E2%80%9CI+Hate+YOG%E2%80%9D+Facebook+arrested+by+Police&btnG=Google+%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
Temasek Review no horse run, in less than 1 week already chop chop liao.
This week (TODAY)
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The question now is, who made the report starting the investigation? It’s confirm not the police taking it into their own hands. Who is the person who made the report?
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@Forecaster Extraordinarie II: August 25, 2010 at 2:25 pm
What you say is definitely true, factual and legally sound-all these come from us professionally adept and just people. But this is Stinkapore where handcuffing you is for your own safety.
I applaud TR for taking precautions and protecting its supporters but bear in mind, we are dealing with a very sinister demon. Nevertheless, the wave of dissent has grown immensely and unless they plan to jail everyone against their howlian, ass-licking Foreign LABOUR (I repeat, LABOUR, not talent ok?) policies plus countless anti Singaporean injustices, go ahead-enjoy.
The END is near. Howlian or not, the clock is ticking.
Lim Pei Lian Swee Swee has spoken.
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OMG
will all of us be arrested by writing our thoughts and comments here in TR?
If that is true, we are prepare to “lim kopi” and arrested by ISA without trial
oh shit
Now that is scary
Be afraid be very afraid
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Excellent idea.
That said, note that VPN software including the tunnel encryption that can be used in Singapore needs import approval (at least officially)….. In other words, the powers-that-be here have the tools to peep into VPN tunnels if they so desire. However, it’s unlikely that the ISPs have the tools on a mass-scale to be able to do this.
Mod’s note: The VPN servers/s according to our tech who has spoken to our host is not located in Singapore, with nothing based in Singapore except the client software used to connect.
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Come On ALl you guys – this is ONCE in a Lifetime liao – Vote the PAP MPs out out out out out!!!
2nd RECESSION Cuming – PAP is gonna push for election Die Die this year. Once they get elected fully, then THEY will do AS They Like.
Lets Us PREVENT PREVENT FULL Pap Sweep!!!! SO Stop them Stop them Stop them !!!
They have top 007 Recession spies – they know because no more good news liao. USA punctured, China cool like ice already, BUT not yet melt.
Shit Times nothing to report except Teo Ho Pin, AMK celebrate duno what..Look USA home sales record low, Unemployement record high, China banks tightenning, Japanese stocks 9 month low, Japaness yen high worried all ball dropoed.
Out with PAP – too many mistakes made BUT allcovered up – too many FTs, locals not enough jobs, PMET’s many eat still eating grass, YOG budget overun, Mas Selamat walked out of jail BIG heads remain, COEs cut and ministers blame market (what shit talk is this) etc etc.
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can’t TR inform overseas journalist about this incident? so are we going to stand up for him or let him drink kopi alone?
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Remember, if ALL get to be invited to lim kopi, please show some class95 ok? Ask for Vendi Size Frappuccino. Cannot save tax paypayers money . Yum Seng!
Lim Pei Only Drink Teh Si Ping, Swee Swee has spoken
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We are living in a First World Country.
We should be fair when giving comments.
Yes, I agree PAP’s govt has not been right over everything. As it’s the rulling party, it has to creat and implement hundreds of policies.
So it’s not possible for it to make mistake. The important thing is that it knows to discard and stop policy that not up to date.
However we should acknowledge that it has implemented many or most of it’s policies have carried Singapore to today’s status and success.
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Helo Forcaster II,
You look very familiar to me. Previously in TR , your nickname is Sinkapore, right?
I remember by your this rabbit logo posted in your nick.
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good job to TR on handling the confidentiality of the viewers here.
sometimes ppl made some comments not meant to hurt anyone.
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Actually, honestly, other issues aside, I kind of enjoy the YOG. It’s not such a big failure these articles makes it out to be. Considering is our country’s first Olympics, should pat them on the back, not suan them for everything wrong.
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‘Unleashing of the DOGS’. Election coming , the choice is yours. Public SERVANT or Public Master?
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@Angel who said: However we should acknowledge that it has implemented many or most of it’s policies have carried Singapore to today’s status and success.
Hello Angel, please DO NOT insult the older PAP guards who have done A LOT for Singapore back in the 60s and 70s which the present batch of MPs CANNOT hold a candle to by comparing the PRESENT sorry excuse of a Millister with the PAST batch.
@Kojakbt, * knock knock * guess who’s at the door? (
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To sweeney 38: August 25, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Excuse me….sorry to blow your bubble…
Singapore is not all kampong and un-developed okay at that time…
And the PAP and LKY was really really “thankful” the British Government gave their so called “blessings” for the PAP government to take off in singapore…
And finally please note without the UN and a foreign economical proven adviser/consultant and our forefathers and mothers…Singapore won’t be where it is either….
Please wake up your idea lah…you sound like you somehow “banged” your head on a PAP sign-board and thus all this drivel from all the PAP logos flying around your “injured” head coming out mindlessly without any proper real, independent and deep thinking or re-thinking…for crying out loud, god and nature give you a brain to use lah…not to abuse okay…sign.
Nuts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm5-nNdse-Q&feature=related
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@Angel
Sorry to say this:
Our $$Million Millisters are living with $$Salary that is Out of this World.
Our Poor Citizens have been pushed and bullied into submission, probably worse than third world. Just look at how they treat our poor students, some of whom were forced to attend the YOG events.
Singapore’s status and success are surely being eroded away by poor policies and their execution such as the YOG.
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Forecaster Extraordinarie II,
Friend, are you that nickname Sinkapore, previously.
Anyway like your rabbit logo, very cute. Pls stick to it.
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To Kestrel83: August 25, 2010 at 1:32 pm
At the rate things are going when “words” can be use to arrest someone even though no real actuated actions is in progress or actual going to take place to physically carry out those “words”….what is happening is really infantile and really paranoid beyond any sane person belief.
So what is next…you somehow look “wrongly” at one of the MIW, kena call up for being “threatening” and “incite to public disorder” too?
Or you accidently “bump” into one of the MIW cos you are in a hurry and you are a threat too.
This is really ridiculious. Are we really going up this crazy wacked out path to this danger to nowhere creek? And where and how will this end? Your guess is as good as mine.
It is almost like Nazi germany all over again…where Hitler and his close circle of cronies are paraniod that the german military and the german people are out to “get” them during the bitter fought latter years of world war two.
Haiz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqkw-nvOUXo&feature=related
Wish all the best Kestrel83. Really hope there are still rational MIW, judicary and civil servants out there…else “everything up for grabs again” via the SAF lorry crap again.
Good day to all.
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Kojakbt: August 25, 2010 at 4:16 pm
maybe we should consider much gentle & acceptable words like f%^* them or sodom*** them.
i wonder whether they will invoke S375 or S377A and give it a good creative twist for something that has been said to something very real.
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IF any of you DAFT Sinkaporeans out there BELIEVE for just ONE MINUTE that the PAPies DO NOT understand simple ENGLISH and is PARANOID, then you are all so TERRIBLY WRONG!
Even a kindergarden kid will know HOW CAN they NOT know, agree?
This is all a WAYANG and an INTENDED abuse and twisting of LAW to kill the chicken, scare the monkey, PERIOD.
You all still DON’T get it?
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Hey TR, any special kind of award for our brother Malik?
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Agree with you Forecaster Extraordinarie II,
Nice to see you again. My friend….
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2 weeks ago, I did warn them on Facebook to watch out for kopi and it turns out I was right!!!!
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Sorry I am here merely to give my personal views.
I don’t have a duty to respond to those who inviting me to an arguiment. It’s endles. Just look at PR CITIZEN and others.
We live in a world that has many different views. I respect others’ views.
At same time I have the right to remind and advice myself not to bark back.
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Thank you TR for the meticulous work in ensuring the free flow of speech and views.
On the other hand, my exhortation to fellow Singaporeans is this.
If you do not slay the dragon, it will continue to burn you.
The arrest is just the latest in a beginning series of scare tactics to oppress brave Singaporeans and cower weak Singaporeans.
Remember the activist who was being followed and the many historical precedents who were called up for ‘questioning’.
I thought I would never live to see this day but now that we have, will you continue to breed the dragon so that its claws and fangs will strengthen its grip on your life and soul.
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Good job Malik! Expose this authoritarian regime for what it is!
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All of us are responsible for the posts online even though you can mask your identity. There are statues in Singapore to deal with those who violates the offences stated in the laws. There is no immunity from Police arrest and prosecution. So long you are honest and speak the truth there is nothing to fear. If you make an allegation against any person, you must be able to substatiate it with evidence. The laws in Singapore ensure you are responsible in what you say. In other words, the person who alleges is the person to substantiate it with evidence; otherwise you face the full brunt of the law.
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To sweeney 38: August 25, 2010 at 5:42 pm
I am sorry too if my words got all wacked up and self idiot myself too.
We are of a mind to agree to disagree to agreed. And to deal with vetted facts insofar as much as possible….only thru a vigorious and the freedom to discuss can one grow even more complete as a real human being….then just a bunch of unthinking meat things or unfeeling souless robots out there in this world…
All views and statements are welcome especially if it makes one think and re-think about everything and anything…but we do need to be careful of “out of this world” or aggressive stupidity for stupidity sakes with inane views and statements which contradicts the true facts. We don’t want to be hypocrites.
Anyway, out there in the world there are already a “jolly” number of real hard nut cases or marbles in their heads more interested in their own personal agendas which are causing direct/indirect pain and suffering to their fellow folks…kind of sad to see this…many forget that mankind is living in a very hostile universe that is imicable to all living things and can’t wait to erase this “mis-begotten 1 in a zillion mistake” from the earth.
Look no further then at what happen to the dinosaurs…or even recent extinction events…sane and rational and mature folks don’t want mankind to end like the dodo…but there are the usual real nut cases who instead of committing sucide because of their lousy miserable infantile lives they could not manage properly out of some lunacy ideas/religions/nut-case beliefs can’t wait to take others/innocents out first and then perhaps themselves after…these are the sickos who can’t wait to ruin mankind for the sake of their own sick delusional nut-case brains…it is already bad enough a hostile universe out there is already trying very hard to get rid of mankind and yet we have self delusional selfish and really sick in the head fools also trying to do the same sicko thing.
Haiz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri-NEhcplbI
please have a good happy day ahead.
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Is this place really SG? This is really unbelievably scary!
Since when has the SG I respected so much turn to such a state????? Brrr…..I know what to do with my vote now. Our country can’t be governed by such pple any more. I for sure won’t want my children live in fear their whole life.
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Malik,
you are the man lah. bros and sisters of TR, we MUST and NEED to BLOW this up. this is the slip up that the goverment has done. this is NOT democracy! this is dictatorship!! somebody says ‘oh lets burn the minister’ and he gets his laptop confiscated and gets called up by the police??? lucky malik got $5000 if not he will be in jail leh!!!! think about it, i got comment, i say what i want to say..and i get fucked for it. is this what we want our kids to grow up in? i am NOT inciting violence here, i am inciting JUSTICE. we..right now are living in sublime fear..you guys dun know it but unconsciously…now…when you want to write..you will not leave your real name..or your real email because you KNOW..the fucking blues and whites will come kick your ass like how they did Maliks…sigh..im just damn dissapointed right now with the government…anyone knows..how we can make the govermenet hear this story…coz really…they really fucked up bad this time…
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Bros and Sisters of TR…this is just a suggestion…i suggest we cut and paste this slogan in EVERY blog that we know. Cut and paste this slogan in EVERY comment box available on the internet. Cut and paste this slogan and send it to EVERYONE we know in our email. (but of course you open up a new one, dont use the one you already have) we SPAM the internet with a slogan.
FREE Abdul Malik. Free the future children of Singapore. Free the freedom of speech. Help us, the help-less speechless singaporeans.
ho bo??????? anyone got better suggestion??
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@WTF, on the contrary, lets COPY & PASTE the same EXACT sentense that got Malik in trouble and paste at EVERY and ALL forums, blogs, whatever then we see WHO and HOW MANY the PAPies’s doggies can arrest.
This more fun right?
Oops! Am I culpable of ‘inviting’ and ‘inciting’ now?
@Devagi, please wake up! How old are you now?
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@Kojakbt, Please lar broler, don’t torture me like that can or not? Old man liao, heart no good, okie?
Anyway back to the point, if you FORCE me to “screw” the person at Temasek that lost the money, I would rather “screw” a PIG!
This is worst than getting the death penalty because the thought of having “screwed” THAT person will cause nightmares for me EVERYDAY of my remaining life.
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U GUYS BETTER STOP SAYING THE BELOW IS A LIE, OR ELSE I WILL ……..
Quote-
“If you were a poor person, anywhere on this planet, Singapore is the one place ………,
where you will have food on the table.
EVEN IF YOU CAN’T AFFORD IT, WE WILL HAVE MEALS DELIVERED TO YOU.”
http://zh.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/394784?page=1
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hello my friend, its lucky you drink kopi, if manila police, you will drink bullets.
these people dealing with hostages from 1970 till now with abu sayuf, mlf and the likes, will take target practice with your body.
but if you paint yourself white and carry american, european passport, you will be safe lah, no bullets no cry….
singapore police force is not far behind them lah….reason you drink kopi-o , mai hum,,,,,,
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BUT FOR THE WRONG REASSONS.
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QUOTE -
http://www.temasekreview.com/2010/08/25/yog-critic-arrested-by-singapore-police-for-calling-public-to-rally-together-over-yog-mass-food-poisoning-scandal/
Money Faced PAP:
August 25, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Malik should tell the police he happened to watch the US TV series ‘Burn Notice’ and got carried away by typing the word ‘burn’ wrongly when he was online.
By the way, ‘burn someone’ happens to mean ’set someone up’ or ’sacrifice someone’ if I interprete the TV series correctly.
What is criminally wrong with using some words literally ? Can our police is so retarded ?
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General Election is knocking at our doors.
PAP is getting very nervous and paranoid.
Take care guys. Have to be careful.
PAP SURE LOSE
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HAIZZZZ.
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LET’S MOVE ON.
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So the dirty word for the day is “burn”. But surely not “rally”? PAP always ask us to rally behind them. Inciting unrest?
@Kestrel83,
You may have did us a big favour. Kudos to you and stay strong and resolute. I think it’s another ‘check’ on the chess board. I believe ‘Checkmate’ will come soon. I’m loving the own goals.
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What if I say fire up Singapore, lets fire Singapore?
Or how about let PAP be fried, lets fry PAP like char kuay tiao? Lets fry them in this coming-soon election that pap DIE DIE have to call because many news wire in the world claimed that USA is punctured liao, China is cooling, Japanese Yen too high to set the country on fire, Europe is fragmented because of the silly Euro with Germany so good, and the PIGS of Portugal Ireland Greece and Spain kanna sai, Britain cut spending, France cut spending, all fried liao!!!
So the PAP is going to call elections and IF they WIN BIG, opposition and many netizens will be chow ta, and we can be like N Korea or Burma but sadly we dont have a Stinkapore Aung San Su
Kyii
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Does this open the floodgate for all future insults like “Dogs” or “3rd Class Citizens” should be taken literally then?
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After the Alan Shadrake case, this will only generate more bad publicity for Singapore.
It will only scare aware foreigners and foreign investments.
It is a lose-lose situation for everyone concerned.
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correction: scare away
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Malik and Alan shadrake are singapore HEROES.Singaporeans wake up we have to support our HEROES.
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MALIK you r the real singapore son.don’t worry,Allah is with you.now i feel like i want 2 BURN something,it is HUNGRY GOST festival.bravo malik.
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@Devagi:
August 25, 2010 at 6:04 pm
All of us are responsible for the posts online even though you can mask your identity. There are statues in Singapore to deal with those who violates the offences stated in the laws. There is no immunity from Police arrest and prosecution. So long you are honest and speak the truth there is nothing to fear. If you make an allegation against any person, you must be able to substatiate it with evidence. The laws in Singapore ensure you are responsible in what you say. In other words, the person who alleges is the person to substantiate it with evidence; otherwise you face the full brunt of the law.
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What ‘allegation’ was involved in the incident??
Wow…you are really thick…!!
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of course he is charged! he “wants” to Rally the ppl and vote the ruling party out, that’s creating disorder in the society..crazy fellow!
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This guy is not telling the whole story. The police dun just come after him for facebook. What he did not reveal is that he make specific threats in FB to kill people. Did u go to his fb before?
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Ah Tan:
August 26, 2010 at 3:29 pm
This guy is not telling the whole story. The police dun just come after him for facebook. What he did not reveal is that he make specific threats in FB to kill people. Did u go to his fb before?
?????????????????????????????????????
IF WHAT YOU SAUD IS TRUE,THEN,THIS WHOLE THING IS NOT RIGHT.
WE DUN WANT TO FIGHT FOR A MURDERER,ONLY THE WRONGLY ACCUSED.
BUT,IT DOES NOT SEEM TO US THAT THIS “BURN’ THING MENAT THIS GUY WANTS TO BURN-SET FIRE- ON SOMEONE,DOS IT SOUND TO YOU THAT WAY?
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A reason to not use facebook since anyone of higher authority can simply pluck information about you from facebook, even if you deleted it.
FREE ABDUL MALIK!
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Minister already kena burn last time what, got oil poured on him, set alight all. confirm kiasu liao.
On a serious note, you can be displeased all you want. Just don’t be stupid enough to get used as the scapegoat. It’s the same as illegal downloading. Every single singapore citizen has downloaded movies and music. Even by visiting someone’s blog with a song attached/embedded, your browser has to download the song for you to hear it. which is illegal. See, we’re all criminals. But only a few get selected for piracy charges arrest, to serve as an example.
lesson learnt? don’t be the example.
Eh ISD I love you all, seriously, don’t arrest me. is my lifelong dream to one day work in ISD, so don’t arrest future colleague! hugsnkisses marfarker.
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Like most guys who done they NS will say. Do what you like but don’t get caught. If you get caught, remember to cover my ass. If not, I make sure your ass hole will be bigger then mine!
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We will only experience full freedom when the king passed away.
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Wonderful blog! I genuinely love how it is easy on my eyes as well as the info are well written. I am wondering how I might be notified whenever a new post has been made. I have subscribed to your rss feed which must do the trick! Have a nice day!
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http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62S4FI20100329
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/eastasia/view/1055853/1/.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31141789/
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Desi-arrested-for-threatening-Bush/articleshow/1495553.cms
Grow up, this is happening everywhere. You have every right to bitch, but once you add a name to it the authorities have every right to stomp you for it too. Your perceived injustice to your small circle of existence doesnt not qualify you for sainthood.
And contrary to popular opinion, ‘I did not mean it’ is no excuse. When was the last time this sentence worked since primary school hmmm?
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