Netizens unimpressed with PM Lee’s National Day Rally speech
August 30th, 2010 | 
Author: The majority of netizens are unimpressed with Prime Minister Lee’s National Day Rally speech last night which focused on immigration issues.
PM Lee paid only lip service to the concerns of Singaporeans and spent more time trying to convince Singaporeans that they will “gain” from the continued inflow of foreigners than to address their genuine concerns.
Singapore’s present immigration policy is the brainchild of PM Lee who announced his ambitious plan to increase Singapore’s population to 6.5 million people via immigration soon after assuming his position in 2003.
There were never any debates in Parliament on the issue and neither were a public consultation exercised ever held with the people.
Many Singaporeans expressed their disappointment at PM Lee’s “excessive” attention on the new arrivals with some wondering if he is the leader of Singaporeans or the foreigners.
Jason Pang couldn’t hide his disbelief:
“I was born in Singapore. When through entire Singapore education, served 2.5 year in the army, when through good and bad times with my country (the many economic crisis, SARS, H1N1, terrorist, etc) and now MY PM is telling me that those foreigners are as important as me. I’m totally disappointed.”
Kelvin Tay is unconvinced by his speech:
“Why is he always asking singaporeans to sacrifice this and do that, to put aside personal interest for the so called greater good? What has he done to true blue Singaporeans besides increasing cost of living, deflating wages, up housing cost, building casinos to further increase revenue? What has the foreigners contribute so far besides increasing cost of housing, public transport cramming, deflating wages and forcing locals to accept to their way of life where they came from?”
Susan Ong did not hide her contempt for him:
“This guy talks craps and is a shameless creature which I ever Seem on this island ! since his came to power in 2006. What does he do to deserve the millions of salaries which he claim to deserve ??? His skin is as thick as the elephant butt or ass !!!”
Jacob Ng felt that his discourse is fundamentally flawed:
“Singapore is not his so called Texas and we will never become one. The reason is simple: His discourse is flawed right from the start. I can’t imagine he actually have the cheeks to cite examples from microsoft to tsinghua uni which we all …know these are unparalleled to begin with, well what comes to mind is only creative and nus/ntu/smu at best LOL so gotta be kidding me. C’mon we all know these are all third tiered when put in the intl arena. Hence his myopic little red dot which he is so proud of will only attract second rated “talents” or trash i called it. He’s main aim of getting in the influx of foreign trash is just a facade to consolidate votes to ensure he gets to remain in parliament for eternity which I know will never happen and we all know it.”
Andrew Toh echoed the genuine sentiments of many Singaporeans:
“Our policies and leaders have done well to lead us to this point. But since 5 to 10 years ago, they have started losing touch with the people. They have let greed for money and power take over their ideals and values. It is like a insidious… virus, infecting all who enter the embrace of the PAP – Even once promising young politicians end up as clones in white, losing their voice and independent minds.
I believe we are at the turning point. The edge of a dangerous and slippery slope – if Singapore continues as it has for the last few years, a lot Singaporeans will find themselves in dire straits indeed. This country will become a playground for the rich and the elite, supported by a base of foreigners and the “intellectual class” and stepping on and oppressing the shrinking middle-class and growing number of working poor.
The damage caused will affect out generation and even the next. If we don’t do anything now, many of our children will find themselves growing up as an underclass, slaves to the rich and powerful.
We need to vote them out now. Before it’s too late.”
[Comment source: TR main site and Facebook]
It appeared from his speech that PM Lee is more interested to “force” his pro-foreigner and ultra-liberation policies right down the throats of Singaporeans whether we like it or not.
Without a strong opposition in Parliament to check to hold the PAP accountable to its policies, we can never have a serious in-depth discussion and debate on the present immigration policies.
The next general election may be the last window of opportunity for Singaporeans to reclaim the ownership of their country before they are completely swarmed by the immigrants which the PAP is mass-importing at a frightening rate to ensure and perpetuate its political hegemony in Singapore forever.
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BaSICALLY, I SEE THE SPEECH with ONLY the following message:
1. Sinkaporeans is NOT important and you canm leave if you want, it won’t affect (us, ie: ELITES).
2. Sinkaporeans should SACRAFICE foe the FTs and the Elites.
Thats all I see the gist of his speech, anymore anyone?
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The is a disconnect between citizens’ concerns and govt’s directions. Something must give way sooner or later to diffuse the tension. Dang!!!!
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…we can’t continue going like this and increasing our population 100,000 to 150,000 a year, indefinitely.”
“We’ve recalculated, MAYBE we’ll get by with a few less, perhaps 80,000 workers (this year)”
Thank you for helping us decide, make and reaffirm that momentus decision when the time comes.
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what he’s saying is this: we ministers do not take public transport nor do we eat in public places and we have alot of money so we can’t comprehend singaporeans’ concern and we don’t care.
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On a scale of 1 to 10, I was about to rate the rally a 7 or 8 before changing channel to watch some football.
Then I heard PM Lee’s spin on the YOG.
In spite of overwhelming evidence of the problems of the YOG, he tried to paint it as a success.
This completely destroyed the credibility of the speech. I was left wondering that if he was not telling the whole truth about the YOG, then what else was he not telling the truth about?
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I am going to migrate to NZ. I don’t feel valued here.
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To reward the Singapore Male Citizens who served NS, he gave us a tip of $9k to go into CPF? (which eventually will be converted to CPF life) So we’re only worth the 9k for our services? (Here’s 9k and thank you for your services)
So, how abt the female singapore citizens? U expect them to give birth if u dun reward them anything? Flawed agenda….
ps: He chose not to address the issue last year and wait until this year to give us this crap…. I think this is ultimatum, Vote them out PLEASE, dear true blue singaporeans
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Wah, this is so like a spoof of what Singaporeans have come to expect of standard Straits Times ‘reporting’ that it should be called The Temasek Review – The New-New Straits Times Not! Clap big-big for sheer thrill-seeking, gaming-spirited entertainment. What a dawning of a new YOUNGER age. I do pity the SO-YESTERDAY-LOOKING Straits Times which, to smarter Singaporeans, has become almost like a basic reference for what NOT to believe anymore. I’m trying hard to suppress my burst of excitement to say: Hey, press servants, you so got it coming in this era of the God-sent Internet! And maybe I should just to cover backside, Singapore-style. Not that Temasek Review is less of a Singapore-style these days.
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Because PM Lee know that Singaporeans cannot survive without PAP.
We have be supporting the PAP for the past 50 years without changing
our hearts.
PM Lee also know that we will support PAP for another 50 years faithfully so that “now MY PM is telling me that those foreigners are as important as me. I’m totally disappointed.”
Please do not blame PM Lee. We should blame ourselfs.
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The disconnect is from here to Jupiter. $9,000 to live on for the lifespan of NS reservists obligation whilst FT takeover your job at the employer’s decision? Why don’t I pay him $9,001 and he can go on “rest and recreation” to Bermudas or Greece for the next 2 decades – any deal done here? And next decade – all prosperity and joy when we don’t ven know if there is a tailspin recession in the next 4 months with no significant recovery for the next two decades?
Sounds more like the 19% flash estimate 2nd Qtr GDP “announcment” preceeding the next “announcement” of needing additional 100,000 foreign when there is no adds in MSM looking for unemployed seeking work to fill vacancies.
Ouch, they were looking for 45,000 Blanga maids and the unemployed here are ALL not wearing skirts!! And the “hotspots” of growth wERE CLAIMED said to be IR Resort-retailing sector and pharmaceutical sector. MAYBE FOREIGN MAIDS MAKE GOOD RETAIL SUPERVISORS AND PHARMACEUTICAL RESEARCH SCIENTIST. Local PHDs from Stanford had better be given protected “preference to citizens” to drive taxis.
AM I DRUNK, STUPID, HALLUCINATING HERE? I thought I “lim kopi” for breakfast with toast this morning in Kopitiam, not Russian vodka at ICA.
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I bet all the Bangla, Burmese, Indians and PRC will be so happy hearing his speech…that’s if they could understand the language.
Time to vote the “Pro-Alien-Party” out in the next GE.
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PM lee is trying hard to convince the 66 pct singaporeans who are still mesmersied by the conning of the miws on all their flawed polices especially the FT policy.
The FT policy and its careless and reckless implementation demonstrates a govt that is utterly UNCARING of the basic needs of its core citizens who are being made the victims,together with their families.
The National Day Rally is merely what it is-a rally by the miws to cajole singaporeans to continue to be fools.
if the 66 pct of our fellow countrymen refuse to see the truths behind all the hideuos scheming and lying(with made-up statistics and all-then they can only blame themselves for screwing up the lives of the rest of the true blue singaporeans and their children,in particular.
Remember,in most of his RALLY speeches,former PM goh chok tong,kept reiterating on “more good years” but in the end,we were all betrayed and the more good years are actually for the miws themselves whose salaries have multiplied whilst forcing citizens out of jobs unless they are willing to prostitute thmeselves more cheaply than the foreign trash.
wake up all you 66 pct who are still dreaming,if not for the 34 pct of your compatriots;at least,for the sake of your own children!
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Hey TR…why not put up the clip..where he goes on to explain about the FT….
LHL almost chocked on his own voice…..and next it was all muffled…..his tone became squeaky.
He could not even approach the subject with confidence and yet…want to compare apples with oranges.
What…… Microsoft Talents vs Singapore Trash.
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PM Minister Lee’s speech is very disguising. He is very smart to hide his real face to show our natives that everything is very rosy. Look closely at the the audience in the hall, everybody seem to be very moody and miserable look. He talks like a red apple which is very fresh and brightly colour on the outside but inside it is rotting away and full of worms. Moreover he bluff alot by saying about our Singaporeans but in fact, he means indirectly to the new Singaporeans, and PRs. If you are honest gentleman, give us the actual number of native Singaporeans, New Singaporeans, PRs and the foreign workers. You always hide truth away from our eyes to see.
Very cleverly to talk. Mr. Lee never mentions about the cost of high living that are affecting us and the average middle-income natives who had lost their jobs out to the foreign talents. He does even like us to know how many of the new Singaporeans are eligible to vote on the next coming election.
Dear Lee, don’t try to hide the true facts away from us. I suspect that you are using the new citizens to dilute the votes against the opposition party and given away all the good jobs to the new citizens to replace us. You think that we are stupid, ignorant, lesser mortals and become the third class-citizens.
Remember, we are living in this red dot and don’t use other big countries to compare with us. It is out of logical thinking. Think where we are and what we are. Our golden age is already reached the pinnacle. If you continues in pursuing the fast economic growth by importing mass new citizens, we go nowhere.
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In the characteristic way of the leadership of the Pro Alien Party, it is to note the concerns but to doggedly continue with the agenda – as seen in the following statements reported over CNA this morning:
Recognising that the foreign migrant issue present real political and social threat – this issue will need careful management to bring success.
Citizens comes first but the “new foreigner citizens” will be integrated.
This is listening in through the Righ Ear, and out from the Left – the mind does not register what is heard.
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His first two Rally speeches when he initially took over was OK, but not as good as GCT. After that two years…I find his speeches,actions and promises..all “Hollow”….sad indeed ! Beh Sai Liow –confirm 110%
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The bitch is asking to be voted out.
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We had massive number of FT professors in NTU,NUS, SMU.
Our universities are not even among the top 100.
Even Taiwan NU is among the top 100.
So much to show lhl failure in FT policies.
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# aurvandil:,,,,
I also thought it was euphoric….but once you start thinking then you realise the bull.
How can you compare Microsoft office Workers & Singapore Workers.
Yeah there are some good ones in Semb Corp & Keppel…but what about the rest out there.
I like the people in Pasir Ris….nice and caring for everyone, even for a lady from Dalian….(shows Singaporeans are gracious)
But would they feel the same, if one of their family members job, as driver….. was given to the Dalian lady.
That is what we are feeling now.
Throwing carrots to NS men….like as if we are dogs. $9K.
Where are the jobs and careers…..off to FTs…
The min. LHL start to borrow from Dr. Goh Keng Swee, I knew….its trouble.
Where is his substance. At least Dr. Goh gave people in LHL time a chance to come up and most have…..
now LHL is giving a FT a chance, so that they can vote for him, in future.
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ForecasterExtraodinareII-
“ditto” “Ditto” & “DITTO”
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Did you hear LHL choke when he approached the FT topic….
Voice got muffled and the tone of his voice….just went squeaky….
Yap….put up the clip TR…let us all see, the confidence in the man on the FT topic.
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No one to blame but for the citizens voting in PAP, the only solution is to vote oppositionto show displeasure and discredit them.
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all you guys are clearly uneducated and do not understand simple economics. all countries have foreigners because they bring to us economic growth by diversifying our talents and taking up jobs that Singaporeans don’t do. if you find that you’re sidelined and oppressed by foreigners, you can migrate to another country and be a foreigner there. Japan, with the strictest immigration policies in the world, now suffers from a lack of innovation and its economy has been stifled. the government does not owe you a living, the government facilitates the people in making a living.
sorry but it seems i happen to be of the minority with sane, objective opinions on such a trash site like Temasek Review.
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We are screwed….i hope the next election comes ASAP. Damm them for making our lives so stressful and treating us like 2nd class citizens
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It’s a free market. Female Singaporeans can earn money in Geylang while their brothers are doing NS. S$9000 is to close the gap… which is something the girls…
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I never bothered to watch this so-called NDR and switched to other mioTV channel. Pity those who have no other source but were forced to watch this NDR. Apparently Singaporeans have to pay TV licence to watch advertisements and proprogandas; when TV is the only source of entertainment for the poor! Seems that the garhmen has been addicted to collecting this license fees and do not wish to let the popolace watch for free; and even have to watch what they do not watch to watch and yet have to pay for it! Ridiculous!
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Obviously, you can see there are full of lies on one face when one is trying to tell lies after lies.
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PM was quoted in the ST as saying that we need Foreigners to gain talent. What the fuck is he talking about? Is he blind? How many of the 2 million foreigners here have talent? The majority are foreign workers from 3rd world countries who can’t even get jobs in their own countries. Thanks to PM’s utter stupidity, they are here to take away jobs meant for Singaporeans.
What a stupid ND speech which this stupid PM has the cheek to deliver. Once stupid, always stupid. That’s the PM for you.
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All I can do is point both of my middle fingers at his elite uncaring face!!
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oh,i switched on my TV wanting to cheer him on.
but,soon,i realise that he’s telling lies and so,switched off my TV and tune in to my CD with the song titled ‘SEND IN THE CLOWNS”.
WHAT ARE THESE HIGHLY PAID CLOWNS DOING?
IF THESE MIWS DOES NOT GET SERIOUS,THE FUTURE IS REALLY BLEAK!
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The way i see it, singaporeans can be sacrifice for their greater good, and we should bear with it for their greater good. SO how is ST going to laud our dear PM and his speech?
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KNNBCCB!!! F*cking LEE shoving down our throats Foreign Trash !! Enough is enough. Need to vote these PAPigs out for good.
Sacrifice personal interests for national good ?! Yeah, sure, you can go eat my shit and cum if you’re lucky.
Why should we sacrifice anything for your PERSONAL (NOT SECRET ANYMORE0 INTEREST which is to mass IMPORT FOREIGNERS to prop up your flagging support !!@ Right ?!
We all know your dirty little trick, dishing out free PRs/NEW CITIZENSHIPs like free toilet paper to suck them into your cohort. BASTARD !!@@#$% Worst then his OLD FART refuse to die father-muther-fcUker !!
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Until today I am not convinced that foreign talent influxs can transform this island what do we citizens gain from this?if one do not address your own family’s concerns and fears but focus attention on others in the long run the family will break apart.It is as simple as that no need to use many words.
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I’ve already sacrificed 2.5 + 10 yrs of my valuable time serving NS. Now you giving me a pathetic pittance $9K to silence me and to protect the FOREIGN TRASH you’re dumping by the millions to be my neighbours ?!
Yeah sure, during war, rest assured I’ll be pointing my M16 to these TRASH instead.
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Compensate NS at 9K. A reality check. Can parent buy for their kid a complete freedom (exemption) from full time NS at 9K? If not, then the 9K is a measly tip that cheapens our past commitment. Please wise up.
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today in Bloomberg news
“We twice attempted to cool the property market, once last year and once in February this year, but the prices are still rising,” Lee said in a televised speech.
Singapore’s property market would form a bubble if the current momentum continued, Mah Bow Tan, Minister of National Development, said in Singapore today after the measures.
despite early warning from Temasekreview about the causes and effects of this phenomenon as early as more than 1 year ago, we were unable to avert this problem.
it may be because salaries of the policymakers were insufficient to attract the appropriate talent with the skills to handle this problem.
it may also be because the problem was highlighted by Temasekreview, an opposing entity, and therefore it would be a serious loss of face to even admit that Temasekreview had even pointed out the problem in the first place, and even suggested solutions very early. this may explain why the authorities were consistently very late in acknowledging, in small steps, the very existence of the problem.
i’m flabbergasted by the administration that is currently running the show.
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Andrew Toh is right
Andrew Toh has the BIG PICTURE. How I wish that more people can just stop being so busy with really nothing and start thinking. Many need to step out take off their R2D2 and C3PO costumes and stop behaving like programmed Droids and WAKE UP!
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BUT NO EXTRA ORDINARY NEW FLATS FOR ORDINARY CITIZERN N THE POOR.
LOTS SINGAPOREANS CANT AFFORD BTO N DBSS FLATS.
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in Today newspaper today:
While some have blamed rising housing prices on foreigners, the prime minister urged Singaporeans to look at broader economic forces at work. He noted that property prices fell in the first half of last year, even though there were many foreigners here.
excuse me Mr Prime Minister Who Is Paid A Lot.
singaporeans have evolved to a state whereby we have realised that the bit of price falling last year was due to what everyone with any intelligence already knows to be the Global Financial Crisis.
so i’m sorry, but i’m not distracted by this statement of yours. amazing, this statement even came out. my goodness.
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Vote them out!
I implore my fellow Singaporeans who are allowed to vote next year.
We will be in dire straits if the PAP is allowed to continue with the immigrant flux.
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“You can’t get it straight away tomorrow, but the wait won’t be too long,” he (our PM) added.
that’s it, he has confirmed to us very clearly that he DOES NOT want the old situation to occur again – whereby when someone wishes to buy a home, he applies, allocates the unit, and gets it very fast, because there is a ready supply of existing available flats as a buffer.
it may imply that this need to wait for a flat, “won’t be too long” is something desirable for the country. until now it has not been justified to us why there is this deliberately-imposed wait, calculated to be of a certain length of time, manipulated such that it will not be too quick, such that you will not be able to take possession of your commited-to-buy flat in a fast manner.
why. why manipulate a deliberate delay.
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Locals, vote them out is NOT possible.
The key word is REVOLT.
But who will be the one to stand up?
Get back to work.
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Those who can vote now, you better vote opposition. Why? Let’s say the ruling party “wins” the elections “again”. And let’s say the influx of PRCs continues to coming in.
And let’s say the new citizen PRC, in the next election votes, do you think in he’s or her “right stable mind” would want a society regardless of race language or religon, base on justice and equality”?
Think about it. Think about your future. VOTE PAP OUT!
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I always wonder,can we get opposition candidates to contest in all ward’s…if,we can….judging from lot of negative response,there will be indeed change
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this $9K is yet another triumph by temasekreview, without which this issue would never have surfaced in an environment conducive to intelligence manipulation.
so count yourselves lucky that you have $9K – peanut shell better than no peanut shell at all. now you know what kind of value the entire administrative machinery has put on you.
it almost implies that you can give up this $9K and become a “new citizen”. or should we use the term “born-again citizen”, or “renewed citizen” …
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LIONS ROAR:
August 30, 2010 at 10:52 am
PM lee is trying hard to convince the 66 pct singaporeans who are still mesmersied by the conning of the miws on all their flawed polices especially the FT policy.
I’m sorry but I think we’re down to 64% currently, or less. Be assured that you will have great difficulty finding this figure on the website of Department of Statistics, in a similar manner that the statistics for the number of citizens that existed in the past years have been removed from the website. We can no longer now know how many of us exist a few years ago.
The only way now is to count for ourselves. Make a note here every year, how many citizens exist. Try to think back what was reported in the papers in previous years. Look for old newspapers from recycling aunties. Quick. Before these facts are methodically erased from our memories.
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[Quote: I’ve already sacrificed 2.5 + 10 yrs of my valuable time serving NS. Now you giving me a pathetic pittance $9K to silence me and to protect the FOREIGN TRASH you’re dumping by the millions to be my neighbours ?!]
Look like PM Lee who pretends to be very caring now, is given out the sweetener to buy the heart of the voters on this coming general election. It would not be surprise now as more sweeteners will throw out as the general election is drawing near. Watch out, it is a deadly trap to numb our senses.
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Just like some of the comments above, I for one cannot fathom this logic by the PAP that to create jobs for S’poreans, they(PAP) must first take jobs and opportunities away from S’poreans???
What logic is this??!!??
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PM mentioned Taxes when he talk about immigration – do Taxes has the kind of immigration level we have here in Singapore – at 40% of our population? My guess is that Taxes’ level is much less! Anyone in the know, please help clarify.
If what I have pointed here is the truth, then, I would respectfully says that he is misleading us, intentionally, by comparing apple with orange!
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“…….. thinking what’s the right way to fix them, to buy my supporters votes, ….. ” PM Lee Hsien Loong, 3 May 2006.
So the $9000 for that?
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I don’t see a point trying to comment that much on what the gov are doing. I’m planning for an early retirement to another country, because the gov will not change their stance for us. Despite TR trying to be the voice of disgruntled Singaporeans, it is not enough. The comments made here will only be catagorized as ‘bashing’ or ‘whining’ in the gov’s opinion. The only way to guarantee change is to ensure that the votes in the coming GE are great enough to fight against the odds.
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A foreigner, ang mo told me last week, “the government doesn’t seem to take care of its people”.I think the more LSL talks and the leaders the more they will be digging themselves to a hugh surprise, come election day. Speaking to many Singaporean, they are not so gullible these days. Many are very unhappy with the foreigners and cost of living thing, it’s not going to to change. The sad part is, we let them do it, the goverment. We have a chance this time at the coming election, vote the PAP out.
Finally thank you TR for an alternative view, keep up the good work.
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My ears are deaf to the tunes by anybody from PAP. Vote them out and return Singapore to real Singaporeans. Thank you.
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We had voted for them for the past elections and kena fxxx the backside twice already. There will be no THIRD time I guarantee u!!We true blue Singaporeans are not so dumb as they think we are!!
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Sigh!!! Why harden your hearts?? you know PM is doing his best, look around the world, got a PM who spoke for several hours for the national rally, Look around the world, he is trying to balance the pros and cons and optimism the best available options. At least I see HE is doing things and solving problems. Before that, I must admit that that I find his govt is complacent, but after the rally, my views changes… So I think let’s us have a open mind. K???
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My deceased wish is to see the ruling party being toppled. I hope hope I can see his wish fulfilled with my own eyes as his child.
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http://www.zaobao.com.sg/yl/yl100830_007.shtml
The FT that fap loves so much has given lhl a tight slap by breaking her bond resulting in 2 singaporean having to bear the cost of $400K. The scholarship is for her to pursue a phd & costing a*star $1million.
I tot i saw an article regarding this issue on TR but it was gone!
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I have a friend (an chinese indonesian) who knows nuts about the pledge or national anthem and yet she is going to get citizenship sometime this year. She is taking up citizenship because she has built up her life here in Singapore by working hard and by having having lots of friends. This is her life. When she told us that she was getting her citizenship, we were all laughing that she could not even sing the national anthem or say the Singapore pledge but then it’s not her fault that the citizenship is given out so easily.
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Dear Foreign Immigrants who have obtained your citizenship,
I urge you to vote wisely this coming election. Voting a few more oppositions in does not automatically result in you getting deported or your citizenship (if you think it is such a big deal to you) revoked. It does not even result in you getting any less benefits than what you are currently getting.
Having oppositions in the parliament are like having a house insurance or having a fire extinguisher. You may think of them as unnecessary until the time comes when you need them. Remember if the PAP can so easily replace the native citizens, it can and will just as easily replace you. No one ever wins when you are competing on being how cheap you can get. There will always be people from poorer countries who can work for less. One day you will find yourself undercut.
Despite PAP’s claim of valuing talent, you have to realize that it values itself and its hold on power even more. Talents and politics may not always see eye to eye and when that happens, you become expendable. Just ask Cai Mingjie. I got no time to flesh out this opinion piece here. I hope other foreign talents who had clashed with our PAp can come forward to relate how you have been treated to give an idea to other foreign immigrants who are undecided as to how to vote.
It should never have been about the foreigners vs the natives as how the PAP is playing it. Conflict and misunderstanding have always been the tools of PAP. The natives need to turn these undecided voters around and not ostracize them. After all, they are going to be just as screwed as we are. Do not bother with the hardcore PAP supporters. We can’t change their minds as research have shown. We should go after the swing votes.
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5k, i’m still waiting before the budget and erection.
otherwise i’ll vote oppo.
9k is for sissies and grandnies, too afraid to vote oppo.
erection and diefraction around the corner, but still waiting cash, 5k with no chilli crabs left in cpf.
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remember that it was categorically announced that the income ceiling will remain and will not change. and when they realise they had misjudged the situation, instead of an admission to that effect, the statement comes out like this:
“I think this group is quite anxious about falling in between, as they are not eligible for HDB and they can’t afford private property. And because people are marrying a little bit later, so their incomes tend to be a little bit higher, so they worry that they will get promoted before they get settled. So we will do more to help them own their homes,” said PM Lee.
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@Forecaster Extraordinarie II, August 30, 2010 at 10:11 am
Yeah, it is about Citizens First, then PR/FT/FW Firster, and finally MIW Firstest. 1-minute message must take 2 hours. No wonder we’re having a productivity issue.
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We are all Deaf to PAP speeches.
All these self centred multi millionaires ministers only know how to speak through their anuses and spewed shits for us to swallow!
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Yes, very disappointed with National Day Rally speech.
The concerns of true blue Singaporeans on the flooding of this island with cheap foreign workers were not addressed. Instead what we heard were measures to be taken so that even more cheap foreign workers can be brought in.
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more new citizens= more votes for PAP in election.
Why they do not want to admit the true reason for opening the flood gates.
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S’poreans,the time is up from our deep slumber!Now,it’s do or never as time is not on our side for any longer.WE’ve been cheated and hookwinked into believing that the MIWs are the only capable persons that could lead us.Analyse and trace deeper into the damages that were inflicted on us and our children through their inapt policies like opening the floodgate to foreigners,flop investments from TH & GIC and the Town councils that involved billions of dollar which could be used to offset costs of living for its citizens,HDB flats prices spiralling,Health-care cost increase among others.It’s crucial that we must not allow such state of affairs to go on or we and our children will be doomed!!!!!
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Just announce when is the general election, ok? I am going to vote you n pap OUT for the sake of my little child n family. F**K YOU. PAP.
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My Fellow Singaporeans, with all honesty, this is the first national day rally that i’ve watched. I chose to watch this year particularly to hear what the PM has to say prior to upcoming GE as i’m learning to evolve from a fence squatter to an advocate for democracy.
As i listened on, it was evidently clear there was no concrete plan/actions to bring Singapore forward except for the pro-immigration policies and underlying message was to soak it up or be marginalized further.
The one and only new initiative i heard was the 9k pittance which i’m rather cynical about. I’m also seriously thinking how MINDEF plans to disburse payment in stages according to the accomplishment of the NSman.
The PM revealed amount of 9K for Nsman and “more” for commanders.
My question is how much more? I am not asking for more but why not a flat rate to apply for all NSman?
Ask any NS Officer, key appointment holders are entitled to an additional allowance on top of their NS payments/claims as a form of make up for transport in exchange for their time and commitment for forward planning purposes. I give them due credit for volunteering.
I open my next heart-felt question to the floor. Are the sacrifices of the ordinary rifleman or those in support roles any lesser than the commanders? Does it mean the contribution to NS of an ordinary riflemen or clerk means any lesser than his commmander?
I am an NS Officer and then so? I am nothing without my merry men, some of whom are holding reputable appointments in the corporate world or are entrepreneurs of their own. Trust me, i enjoyed every moment being a ground man with the troops as compared to wargaming on a plastic sheet with those so-called “commanders”.
Supposing Comamanders contributed more, yet irony that struck me during my last ICT. I am not entitled to “command allowance” yet was ordered to cough up $26 for indenting of portable loos for field training.
Fine as it was meant for the welfare of the unit as a whole but did not bade well as we were ordered to cough up, actual costs was $25.50 per Officer but they rounded it up to $26. Is anyone accounting for the $0.50 and to whose pockets it is going towards?
Now, what about those whom have completed their NS, does it mean they are no longer eligible? In case it becomes available, and they opt to use this special grant to further their studies? Will they be restricted to courses/schools of MINDEF’s choice?
This new initiative is simply a farce and designed at keeping those elite commanders at higher command, well, happily there. They may of course, turnaround and say this will spur junior commanders to undertake higher command.
I can’t help but think what will be the future for the next generation. Would I be forced to re-think seriously to become an immigrant that may or not be welcomed by another country in case they are not scholastic material as assessed by the Singaporean education system. How many Canadas are there?
In any case, this is my home land and i will continue to preserve my birth rights and exercise my vote at the upcoming GE, if there isn’t any walkover (GE after GE).
I would urge all discerning Singaporeans to stand up for what they believe in, afterall, we can see for ourselves what the ruling party is doing for us. The truth is out there, we just need to see and decide for ourselves.
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I am very impressed. This si the most powerful Political leader in the whole world.
We knew that he did not consult much of his colleagues for the contents of this speech, eg his Ministers of Education were surprised to hear even that he is going to speak on Education.
He just went on a podium and committed to spend $60 billion on MRT, as if it is all his own money. Did he not see the need to consult Parliament, or the electorate to commit close to 50% of our National reserves, ahead for a period of 10 years, to public Transport. How did he know that the people of Singapore would not prefer to have the money spent on Education, health, or even defence? Did he even think of consulting?
As I said, I am very impressed with his powers.
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I had watched the very first National Day speech year after year after year; and yesterday’s.
Pure salesmanship.Nothing more nothing less.
And.
They will talk something and will do exactly the opposite.
Father must have coaxed the son.On the art of selling spoilt and defective agenda.
Window dressing and selective examples.
I been watching the same routine for decades year after years.
My advise.
Take the money and vote PAP out.
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Citizens first! Sure. Just give the foreigners the easiest entry ticket, which even at Disneyland you have to wait in a long queue, and they become citizens.
Are’t we proud of the likes of China actors and actresses who cannot make it in their twilight years settling here and the local media just goes on a frenzy about their citizenship. I’m sure some of them even scoff ‘bai chih’ at people who congratulate on their newly acquired citizenship, not knowing to them it’s actually just a passport of convenience.
To all you NS men out there, better not celebrate yet. You will be in for a surprise just like your parents and many other true blue Singaporeans who thought the CPF would be theirs to spend but now will probably never see the light of day. During those heady days, many people ASSUME that they were going to get their hands on the nest egg eventually, and gave the thumbs up for the party. Many of them are clearing tables, sweeping floors, cleaning toilets, rummaging for tin cans and greeting good day to the new influx of ”çitizens’ which going by the recent context meant this is for their benefit and competitiveness.
Today they give you 9000, after election, they will make you pay 20000.
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Dear fellow anti-PAP Singaporeans, if you guys love to criticise so much about the PAP, stand up, identify yourself and give alternative solutions that are more credible than those of the PAP. Instead of trying to give big and loud coffee shop talk here, give credible solutions to the policies of the PAP you are unhappy about. Or go and form an alternative party. It is easy to sit in front of the computer and talk big. Don’t be cowards in front of the screen, come up and stand up for Singapore
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Oh by the way,freedom of speech is enshrined in the constitution of the Republic of Singapore. I have posted my comments and it is awaiting moderation. I thought this website is supposed to be a platform for airing our views without fear or favour. Why the need for moderation?
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Some jaws dropped when the 3 to 1 figure was mentioned, isn’t it?
Hush silence. No clapping.
Sembawang and Keppel employed a total of 15000 FWs and 5000 Sgeans. 3 to 1.
This could be the trend for the future for red dot, isn’t it?
3 FWs and 1 SGean combination in the total national employment level.
Possible?
Be prepared.
We wait.
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dear all true blue sinkies including those who are in the spf and military, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH of all those BS from those MIW? do we? Day by day, we are already losing this tiny little red dot where we used to live and work harmonously among ourselves, our very own singaporean chinese, singaporean malays, singaporean indians and singaporeans eurasians. If we don’t want to do anything to stop the disappearence of our beloved nation, soon those MIW and thier power craze master are going to turn our little island into their mega money making machine. The fate of this red dot is on our hand to decide what we true blue sinkies want and not what those MIW to decide. What say you sinkies?
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@KEE SOON LEONG
I hope you’ll remember your words when the PAP is no longer the government.
After all, what goes around comes around.
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I think TR is getting more skewed in its report and from the tone of the report it seems to be inciting flaming of the government and create anti government sentiments in its report.
I know that almost none of us here is a PAP supporter. However this doesnt warrant for such skewed comments or report. TR editors should be held liable as it’s their job to present a more wholesome truth.
More over there should be some censorship over contributor’s comment especially when it comes to usage of vulgarities. I hate to see TR going down this anti/hate govt path and hides behind the curtain of “contributors view doesnt represent TR and TR is not responsible for their remarks”. Fair enough, you are not responsible, however you are not doing yourself justice or showing credibility by publishing such skewed reports.
I am sure in this case of the National Day Rally, there are bound to be positive responses as well. However TR only chose to highlighted the negative ones, trying to build an image of all people unhappy with the government. I am seriously disappointed with the TR carry its reports nowadays, made me think twice about believing it and questioning its credibility. Peace Out.
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[Quote: What a stupid ND speech which this stupid PM has the cheek to deliver. Once stupid, always stupid. That’s the PM for you.]
Yes, I fully agree with you. Mistake is made, and other mistake …other mistake. He did not even bother to bring up the incidence about the police in mishandling the case recently and the feeling at the ground level.
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I just saw the best actor in the world on channel 5 last night
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Cheers to the netcitizens for your great effort in contributing to the vibrant discussion on our PM rally speech.
However you know no matter how hard striving you try to sound here in getting the PAP to change their mind, they will always show you the same old motto: “You Die Your Business”.
In order to win your fight you must bring more people to come and read TR and give them the strength of a giant to deal with the dinosaur media, ST, so that we will not miss our objective to make PAP accountable for their mistreats.
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All people can do is to criticise, scold and demand from the government, run the PM down and nitpick. If you can do a better job, instead of just giving out verbal diarrhoea and cry father cry mother over bits of your un-met demands, come up with workable and better suggestions or stand for election. Otherwise shut your traps!
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to: To be fair….
At least your argument for objectivity is published here. At TR, we get to hear 2 sides of the story. You will never see this in SPH toilet papers, and mediacorpse tv
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US President Obama said of BP’s ex-CEO Tony Hayward, circa 9 June 2010:
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“When you talk to a guy like a BP CEO, he’s going to say all the right things to me. I’m not interested in words. I’m interested in actions.”
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With such honest opinions and wisdom, I keep wondering why he (sic Obama) is paid less than one-fifth of LHL. I mean that guy bagged a Nobel Prize; what does ours have – spend $387m to buy a special medal from IOC?
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On the positive side, at least this year he touched on some ground issues. This indicate his ears are functional; (whether sincere or can carry thru is another issue). Unlike last year’s speech – what with S’pore from fishing village to First world, patting own back, sudden racial harmony issue, etc… Even his hand movements seem human this time round. Bravo to this year’s scriptwriting team. However, the whole thing looks like a PAP rally, rather than a national day’s.
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To be fair…:
August 30, 2010 at 4:52 pm
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you got to be kidding,pal.
why must TR SING PRAISES of those who can’t stop singing their own praises.
if you like,go ahead,sing the PAPies’ praises here.
make our day!
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@ Kee Soon Leong
Dear fellow anti-PAP Singaporeans, if you guys love to criticise so much about the PAP, stand up, identify yourself and give alternative solutions that are more credible than those of the PAP.
- Why must we do that? Which law states that? Where do you read that in the constitution? Besides we already did offer alternative solutions. The solution is this: Stop whatever you are doing. Stop wasting our money. How much clearer do we need to put it?
Instead of trying to give big and loud coffee shop talk here, give credible solutions to the policies of the PAP you are unhappy about.
- Ditto
Or go and form an alternative party. It is easy to sit in front of the computer and talk big. Don’t be cowards in front of the screen, come up and stand up for Singapore
- Yes it is easy to sit in front of computer and talk big. That is why I do it. Goading only works on pea brains. Go ahead keep trying.
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“TR editors should be held liable as it’s their job to present a more wholesome truth.”
don’t pretend pretend and try to make a subtle push of your goody-righteous goody-goody boundary here ok. and make it sound so legalistic about liability, blah, blah, blah over something here which is essentially more like a cyber kopi-shop talk, informal info gathering, gossip, etc, etc.
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Our PM is morally upright. I see a genuine desire to do what is right rather than what is politically expedient. He reduced the size of the GRCs, now he is giving $9000 award to NSmen. We can argue about whether is the magnitude sufficient, but it is a step in the right direction. Our PM is a principled man.
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“Why the need for moderation?”
tell that to Shitty Times!
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***KEE SOON LEONG: August 30, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Dear fellow anti-PAP Singaporeans, if you guys love to criticise so much about the PAP, stand up, identify yourself and give alternative solutions that are more credible than those of the PAP.***
could you please ask your higher mortar to name & identity individual persons contributing to each policy or law that has been implemented. being paid so much, still want to ask for alternative solutions. to start the ball rolling, ask them to reduce their pay to match that of 1st world countries like US or UK or Japan.
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FTs? What FTs???
Look at the quality of those given PRs; from massage talents to ……………..
Please help me understand how such FTs can add value to S’poreans in the short and long term.
On a seperate but related note, can you imagine what social problems we will have when 45,000 Bangala domestic helps mingle with the thousands of male Bangala workers?
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BTW, my children and I are still waiting for the implementation (not to mention realisation) of his “Teach Less Learn More”.
Basically it didn’t happen, period!
Can we then hope for more of his promises made???
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&&&Chang:
August 30, 2010 at 5:30 pm
come up with workable and better suggestions or stand for election. Otherwise shut your traps!&&&
KNN. You buay song hah. workable & better suggestions r to ask your master to step aside. can do or not ? don’t say no workable & better suggestion.
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To Lachlan:
Dont be fooled lah. This is called “put out the long line to catch the big fish”, all for the sake of the forthcoming election.
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Raven: August 30, 2010 at 7:27 pm
“Teach Less Learn More”.
yah loh. teachers teach less so that an economy on the side in the form of tuition could be created in this bad time loh. they talk only. when it comes to exams, all the f difficult questions will be there lo. they totkok like singing to make you feel so shiok.
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SINGAPOREANS ARE NOT WANTED
THEY WANT FOREIGNERS ONLY
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The entire Rally speech was a complete marketing spin! On FT, for every single “good” example of an FT he gave, there are 1000 negatives ones that occur in daily Singapore! Instead of investing in Singaporeans, these clowns want to invest in foreigners. Imagine 5-10 years ago instead of opening the bloody flood gates for F-Trash, if they had spent investing in Singaporeans and the local economy – we’d have far fewer problems than what we’re seeing today.
I total agree, the PAP have lost it, they’re completely disconnected with reality. The only course of action is to bring in some Opposition to literally keep the PAP in-check and on their toes.
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After 45 years, Singaporeans are now not needed anymore.
The PM and his MPs want more foreigners….new arrivals.
Are they pushing Singaporeans to extinction?
This is our country..this is our home!
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Re: Disappointed and Disheartened
The recent National Day Rally speech only address the concerns of the top 25% of the population and not the man in the street. I am one of them jobless, desperate and the irony is that i am part of the grassroots movement but nothing was done to alleviate my case at all. I am not asking for much just a job to keep me afloat but all WDA ever do is to send me for so called Certified Service Professional Course which i graduated tops but what the hell, NO JOBS!!! I am slightly disavantaged due to a limp and i had gone to numerous interviews without success including SBS Transit etc. I have personally written to our PM Lee for assistance but instead my case was bumped back to WDA where its personnel chided me for not following protocol but wtf when u are desperate and hungry talk about what protocol when the bills are piling up and no assistance is AT HAND.
I have served faithfully for 5 whole years as a volunteer without complaint and was just given the 5yr long svc awards but where is HELP when i needed them. I am aware of the consequences by posting here but i am really at my WITs end and my vote will certain be with someone this coming GE if things are not looking up.
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How much our PM loves Singapore?
How much our PM loves Singaporeans?
Your call..
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PM DOESN’T LOVE US ANYMORE
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Our PM is abandoning all Singaporeans.
As a student, what is my future here in Singapore?
Many of us are fearful to be left out in the cold….
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Drunkard Lee still talking cock
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Singapore is run like a company, we do not really have a distinct feeling of belonginess. Most of it is artificial. Like a company is produce or get out, very much like work or die. Being born and bred in SG, one really see how Singapore transform, from a small island to a country that incalculate so many people, say 1990 there is only like 2.8-3 mill people. now there is 5-6 mill people.
There is one particular quote from the speech which he says Singaporean are never satisfied, how could we be satisfied when the culture and lifestyle you instill in us from education was never to be satisfied or truly happy. how could we….
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He is the most useless PM since our independence.
Invitng top talents to Singapore is an important task.
He failed!!!
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Under Lee Kuan Yew’s feudal meritocracy system, no Singaporean dare to ask whether our PM is capable or not.
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I am in the I.T industry. Last year, I was retrenched because my salary was much more higher than the foreigner. I was replace. So this is the so-called of getting foreigner talent into our country and workforce ???
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After spending Millions or Billion in producing trained engineers and workers from local uni, polys and ITE, PM Lee still do not believe in our own education system that he thinks the foreigners are more telented and better trained, he thinks even people from China and India or better, he cannot even believe education setup by his own PAP is able to train telented people, why spend so much in to education? Save the money and buy telent, SIngaporean will be made working for FTs instead anyway, why trained our people give them hope but yet no job for us. FT are not here to take jobs Singaporean not willing to work, they are everywhere, from top to lowest in companies.
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@KEE SOON LEONG:
August 30, 2010 at 4:37 pm
OK Mr. Kee, how about you disclose your address and phone number here and we all come over to your house to present all the alternative solutions which we ensure you are far more credible than those of the PAP.
If you dare not to place your address and phone number here then you are talking big like a coffee shop uncle and blow smoke with no substance. LOL…. I dare you to do give your contact info here, chicken Kee.
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@Kee soon Leong —wah, you very “Jilat”? Why “Moderation??” ..perhaps you should oso as STdb Moderators too!
Wny Moderate?, Why only allow 400 characters?, Why Banned ???
Stand out and exposed “identity now”???..alamak, after so many election and “below belt tactic against oppo”…so stupid to let your Boss n his Gang to “silence the potential lamb”?
You, I am sorry to say..a Bootlicker thru n thru. Hmmm must be you enjoy bending down for f/ts right?
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I switched the set off after a few minutes of his English speech as I noticed his shifty posture and unconvincing tone of voice. The body language just didn’t resonate with the words being uttered. I got the feeling he himself wasn’t convinced about what he was saying. And as the cameras panned on the audience, it was quite obvious what they were thinking. Unfortunately they had to behave and of course the boot-lickers had to cheer and smile when there wasn’t anything to cheer or smile about.
Didn’t you all notice the hypocrisy and the hypocrites?
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He must be thinking Sinkies get a good deal since he reduced the FT intake from 100K to 80K. This is 20K less than suggested.
Very cunning move and give impression he is listening. Are we fools to believe this. Give us a break lah.
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I can see that most of his Policy changes were quite similar to past Poster’s suggestions.
It only tells me one thing….why do we have to employ these Million $ Minceter when it was “ordnary Citizens ( oso favourably know as whiners by the Bootlickers )
Why does a PiM ,adapts “ideals” from “Whiners” ??
Answer: Either we are Better or He is a “No Brainer”….or worst..he acts Blur ! He could not have been “out of Touch with the ground”
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@Chang,
I think you must be new to TR or you are too lazy to read the past articles & comments.
Many people have already suggested alternative solution to problems encountered including myself. I have suggested possible solutions to increase our population.
But unfortunately, for one reason or another, the current administration prefer to be deaf ( they say so themselves).
So, i suggest you better go read all past articles & comments first before trying to defend your masters!
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@Raven,
“Teach Less Learn More” has happened in my daughter’s primary school. Teachers are indeed teaching much less and also my daughter is learning more, from the tuition teachers I had to engage. It seems teaching maths is confined to writing the questions, answers and models on the blackboard for all to copy with no explanations.
Coming back to the speech, I fell asleep after he started bargaining that we could take in slightly less FT, 80K of them. I was then jolted up when $60B was mentioned. A quick glance at the new proposed MRT lines made me wonder if I was still dreaming and seeing double vision of lines running parallel to existing ones. It seems Punggol station will never get to meet Pasir Ris Station afterall.
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@KEE SOON LEONG:
August 30, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Dear fellow anti-PAP Singaporeans, if you guys love to criticise so much about the PAP, stand up, identify yourself and give alternative solutions that are more credible than those of the PAP. Instead of trying to give big and loud coffee shop talk here, give credible solutions to the policies of the PAP you are unhappy about. Or go and form an alternative party. It is easy to sit in front of the computer and talk big. Don’t be cowards in front of the screen, come up and stand up for Singapore.
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This talk of giving credible alternatives to PAP policies and forming alternative parties had been repeated ad nauseam. We don’t need that anymore. If we are loud it is in the hope that one of your deaf ones may start to hear or at least one of our daft ones may start to think. As for your last sentence, if you are indeed a hero please enlighten us on how you intend to channel your efforts to correct the situation we are in.
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Hope he calls for election sooner than expected !!!
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sad lah. still haven’t wake up.
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VOTE THE LEE DYNASTY OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MM Lee has done a great job in the past as a PM in the 70s but man can change over time. No man is as consistent, faultless and flawless as God.
Now his son took over and no doubt singapore skyline becomes prettier with the casino and many other projects, the city getting richer but we the heartlanders getting poorer. why? the nation is becoming richer as the expense of the people. a nation gets rich via 2 ways..one way is getting the wealth from outside the country, the other way is getting wealth from inside the country….singapore is doing obviously the latter. which explains why i feel so disconnected with the city skyline n majestic view when i drive on sheares bridge each time. It does not represent the people’s status n wealth.
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well, at GE moment, we vote them, when we turn for some assistance, wait for reply, especially for the poor,sometimes get help or sorry unsuccessful. then expect young couples to have more children ,so and so. what happen to those cant afford to buy even a 3 room flat?? there are still lots staying in a rented flat and waiting in que for more than 2-3years. then when they sleep on the seaside,,ohh,it tarnish the image of singapore. when come to foreigner,they have dormitary…of course some other company will sure take in Ft as it pays bit low , then sporean wait lol for jobs, some even unemploye more than 6-1 year. still claim the unemploy rate is decreasing. well,some it will turn out to be the ancient times one day as like the time of Pharaoh alike. Slaves of the modern world. Even Japan control over their Ft, but still they are good in their I.T and technology. why cant they see?? here no resources,but still they always a way out….send our men for more knowledge and return with new ideas,getting FT here makes no difference. End up our sporean cant even secure a better position. Dont you see the difference,in the morning,,all rushing to work,even going home also rushing..other countries are not that so rushing,can still have ample time for sip of drinks or catch some news. …. well,even we wont even get to see the times in 20-30 years ahead,poor our future sporean, they will suffer more mentally. soon the I.M.H will have to increase the wards capacity..more stress sporean will go there ..
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@TR daily reader:
“MM Lee has done a great job in the past as a PM in the 70″
No he did not. You give him too much credit. His contributions to Singapore were few and far between. And highly exaggerated by the ‘official story’.
He’s just your typical power-hungry politician. The problem is that too many Singaporeans, especially the older generation, have given him the benefit of the doubt for too long. Or, they got suckered into his cult of personality.
“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing”
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MM Lee is the greatest leader in the world.
No country in the world can transformed a country from a fishing village in a First World Country in less 1 generation.
We all owe him a lot. We are enjoying the fruit he planted and nurtured.
Without Lee family and PAP, our national reserves of over 150 billions will be gone in drain in short time.
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Aiyoh, I turned on TV to watch David Blaine Magic. Suddenly appear Planet of the Apes Face, Lying Howlian Leech. Zzzz. I switched off.
Lim Pei prefer to watch Home Alone Reruns than see monkey face eat peanuts on tv, has spoken Swee Swee
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A society that robs an individual of the product of his effort, or enslaves him, or attempts to limit the freedom of his mind, or compels him to act against his own rational judgment-a society that sets up a conflict between its edicts and the requirements of man’s nature-is not, strictly speaking, a society, but a mob held together by institutionalized gang-rule. Such a society destroys all the values of human coexistence, has no possible justification and represents not a source of benefits, but the deadliest threat to man’s survival. Life on a desert island is safer than and incomparably preferable to existence in Soviet Russia or Nazi Germany, (or present day North Korea).
If men are to live together in a peaceful, productive, rational society and deal with one another to mutual benefit, they must accept the basic social principle without which no moral or civilized society is possible: the principle of individual rights.
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simple. that speech was a superb one from the marketing aspect.
filled with propaganda, anyone can read and feel. there is even desperation in there, trying to give the best but the best cannot come out. I applaud PAP for its marketing machine.
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This Site should be renamed BMG review, Bitch Moan and Groan review. So depressing. Nothing constructive.
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@ALAMAK!: August 31, 2010 at 8:35 am
//This Site should be renamed BMG review, Bitch Moan and Groan review. So depressing. Nothing constructive.//
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You certainly have shown your immense ability to contribute to your own perception and make this into a reality experience for yourself.
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http://www.temasekreview.com/2010/08/30/former-permanent-secretary-i-think-our-leaders-have-to-accept-that-singapore-is-larger-than-the-pap/
‘’ Former Permanent Secretary: I think our leaders have to accept that Singapore is larger than the PAP ‘’
‘’ When I first read Plato’s Republic, I was totally dazzled by the great logic of this organisational model where the best selects the best. But when I reached the end of the book, it dawned on me that though the STARTING POINT WAS MERITOCRACY, THE END RESULT WAS DICTATORSHIP AND ELITISM.’’
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never believe that he actually take care of his own people… he only want ELITES and MORE MONEY… those who cant be either… dun even let me see your face… please leave by the causeway…
LIES LIES AND MORE LIES FROM HIM… AS USUAL….
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@Kee soon Leong
Must be a boot licker or some smelly stray dog.
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@ Pigs Are Pigs
So I guess you should be a bootlicker of the opposition parties or worse than some smelly stray dog whom the opposition can’t even help. Losers form Temasek Review. Cowards sit down in front of a 14inch to talk big.
If you guys have the guts to voice your views, go out and stage a protest. Otherwise shut down this Temasek Review.
I wonder why we have such shameful Singaporeans on this website who claims to know everything but in reality knows nothing.
Yeah, Singapore will do fine without the PAP. But Singapore will surely sink with so many losers in this website.
Just shut this website down bloody losers.
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@ SilenceIsGolden
Somebody would like me to put my address here. Sure. How about me going down to you guys houses and I will tell you why I would think the policies in the country are fine. Especially to Silenceis Golden. Put down your email, your home address and your phone number. I will pay you a visit. If you don’t do that, then I am sorry to say that Temasek Review are a bunch of bloody cowards. If you guys are that great then migrate out of the country and seek a better life elsewhere.
Why are you guys still in Singapore? Very simple. You guys are jealous people who don’t have the ability to migrate out of Singapore. I would like to see these guys here migrating out from this website as well. Can’t do that? Too bad. Losers have no abilities. They have only a foul mouth with rubbish in it.
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KEE SOON LEONG:
in way you are right and wrong
right – we are loosers
wrong – we will always be in singapore because it is our home and why should we be kicked out because we are swarmed by ft
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@KEE SOON LEONG:
September 1, 2010 at 1:15 am
LOL…. Chicken Kee morph into a crazy dog… wow I am so scared and I am shivering under the bed. Here come the big bull dog unleashed by the mighty PAP with drooling tongue and steel paws, he charges at everyone and he berates every mother;s son branding them as coward and lame. His mighty jaw is landing on your buttock with great intent and with a mighty force in the name of PAP he will drive the sons of Singapore out of this island country. S…h…i…v…e….r….help me I am so so scared……
Hey Kee! These guys are still in Singapore because they want to see how PAP falls. Hope you dig it. Lets see how you’re going to make these guys migrate out of this website? No abilities never mind, got one man one vote is already enough. A foul mouth is better than your potty mouth. Rubbish in their mouth is better than semen and milt frothing from your potty mouth.
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@KEE SOON LEONG,
Not everyone can have the ability can just get up and form a political party – but what I like about TR is that it WOKED ME UP! to some issues which I have taken for granted previously ( for a long time). It made me think about what I want to leave behind for my children. I only have one vote – but I will use it more carefully this time. If there are enough of us waking up, I think there is a chance for us to start getting accountability and change that will be needed for our future generations.
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KEE SOON LEONG:
September 1, 2010 at 1:15 am
You are the one who asked people to identify themselves but you are also afraid to identify yourself why is it so? The reason is simple if you disclose your identity here you will be mobbed.
We are in Singapore because this is our home. We are not jealous but angry people that’s all.
The number of netcitizens who are not happy with PAP is mighty potent. If the viral spreads to the real world PAP is finished. Be careful next time when you wear your all white outfit and wear the lighting logo, you may be the opposition clamoring for our support.
Yes dude live and lets live.
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“…we can’t continue going like this and increasing our population 100,000 to 150,000 a year, indefinitely.”
All lies, pack of lies and half- truths, why? $60 billions boost for Mrt network over the next decade, who are they building the train stations for , unless they are expecting a huge increase in ridership. NO Logic! the figures does not tally, unless they are expecting alot of new immigrants.
Secondly , the basic principle is that “Citizens come first” from Prime minister Lee . How are you going to implement Meritocracy policy and ” citizens come first” policy at the same time? Dont they contradict one another? All these lies are said because the next coming- election in 12 months time!
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@SilenceIsGolden
Oh come on, at least I dare to reveal my real name. How about you?
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@ citizenOfSG
It’s good that you have waken up and shiver. Learn your lesson brother. And stop the semen in your mouth. By doing so, you are not attacking my points, but attacking a person. Learn something dude, attack the issue not me.
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@ john:
September 1, 2010 at 1:23 pm
No, the political class tells us contradictory “truths” at different times, so hopefully, the Sinkies do NOT connect the 1% truth on the outside actually packaged inside 99% lies.Shitty publications – print and electronic – is the conduit and lever of carefully orchestrated bedtime story-tellings for Sinkies kids.
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@KEE SOON LEONG:
You are sucking up to the govt… we are more patriotic then that… we are thinking for the future of our country.
So naturally you would want to reveal your name so as to claim your rewards…
If you are so repulse by comments made here, then why are u still here? Are u working for someone?
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@ citizenOfSG:
September 1, 2010 at 4:04 am
MASTERPIECE YOU WROTE!!!!!!!!!!! ROTFLMAO
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KNN KEE – why you call yourself anti-PAP when it is clear that you are not. Running dog for the PAP, you are! Get out of here. You are not welcomed…..
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*KEE SOON LEONG:
September 1, 2010 at 1:15 am
Put down your email, your home address and your phone number. I will pay you a visit. If you don’t do that, then I am sorry to say that Temasek Review are a bunch of bloody cowards. If you guys are that great then migrate out of the country and seek a better life elsewhere.*
hey ah kee. you also talk big. why not u do it then and we shall see how tua kee & heroic you are.
not cowards lah. you need to be careful when you r facing someone who acts like a bully & thug. r u one of them. tell us leh.
we are not great lah, just a bunch of people who prefer to stay back in OUR own country & continue to make as much noise as possible so that you find it so irritating that you yourself may consider of migrating out of the country lah. please don’t behave like thug & start to chase us out leh. can or not ?
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which policy do you think PAP is most likely to implement 1) Citizens come first ,2)Citizens cum first and 3)Citizens DIE first ?
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‘You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time’ Abraham Lincoln
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It is interesting that Mr Kee chose to attack citizen@SG to “fight the issue and not the person” when he started the whole fracas by calling TR readers losers.
The issue would be if the govt had done such a “fantastic” jobs in which they had rewarded themselves tremendously, would there be so many dissenting voice in the first place.
In the modern internet age, Keyboard Warriors can be a force to be reckoned with, especially given the high accessibility of alternative news media such as TR or TOC.
Gone are the days when the govt can sweep things under the carpet, in which only selected group of people is aware of the truth.
Frankly speaking, I’m too guilty of indifference, because
1) My consituency is bound to be walked over,
2) If the “mandate” persists, I’ll just chao overseas.
Pls remember, patriotism is not limited to the govt( ruling party) but to the identity of Singapore. PAP should NEVER BE EQUATED Singapore as a country
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@ KEE SOON LEONG: September 1, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Hello Tua Kee, how old are you ah? Dont make people laugh leh.
This kind of challenge? You got brain or not? People reveal their
real name and address here and wait for invitation to lim kopi isit?
You are a big joke. Grow up lah.
狗仗主人势，狐假虎威
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FCUK YOU! Kee Soon Leong…you CB. PAP puppy trying to cause trouble here. If you don’t like what TR is writing go and read the Straits Times or jump off from MBS la…..nobody ask you to come and you don’t have to stay…..shooo…..shamless puppy………
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@ EVERYONE
I despise this website because the people here only know how to use vulgarities to scold people. I think it is the PAP’s fault for not reigning in these people earlier when they were young. They can’t argue, so they use vulgarities to hit people back. Yes, it is the education system’s fault for producing creatures like them. Guys, I am sad for you. That’s it, when I like it, I will come back here and post again. Dear netizens of temasek review, although you love to use expletives, I am fine with it. You guys can’t ban me here. If you do so, it means you are not tolerant of alternative views. Simple as that. Continue to hurl abuse at me, it just shows how low you guys are. Not cool leh.
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@ KEE SOON LEONG
狗腿 KEE, GROW UP LAH. DUN ACT TOUGH LAH.
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@ 鸟语花香
U CALL ME TUA KEE THEN U MUST BE SUAI SUAI KEE LAH
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@ KEE SOON LEONG
狗腿kee, go fly kite and get out of this website.
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Wow. You people should be grateful. Where are most the Singaporeans? We are facing problems such as aging population. We can’t rely on the old folks to work. Many Singaporeans are either working or studying overseas. I’d read news about the government trying to call these Singaporeans back home. We need foreign talents, people! Who’s going to clean the streets of Singapore? Who’s going to build those tall buildings? Come on, people. We live in Singapore. Everything is almost too perfect. Men should not complain about NS. So what if the government wants to give the NSmen reward now? Do you serve the nation for money or pride? The government had stated millions times before that we Singaporeans comes first. Do foreigners get as much reward as us? All you guys are pointing out is about what had been told to us this year. What about last few years? We trust PAP for so many decades. The next election, will you still vote for them? I bet you will. Think wisely, people.
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@ofelia do you know how much the roadsweepers in japan are being paid? please go find out and then come here and say why no one wants to work as a roadsweeper in singapore. same for construction workers.
as for NS, we are not angry at first UNTILL THE AMOUNT IS REVEALED. 2 years for 9k sgd, why not they try offer the same amount of money to the FT’s and see if they are willing to do the same? ITS PRECISELY WE DID IT FOR OUR COUNTRY, THATS WHY WE ARE SO PISSED THAT OUR SACRIFICE IS EQUATED TO A MONETARY VALUE! AND A VERY LOW ONE!
and for your info, i NEVER voted for PAP, because with the skewed GRC system, WHO GETS TO VOTE???
if you are a PAP mole, you are a lousy one. YOU JUST MADE ME MORE PISSED!
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