The term “Foreign Talent” itself is rubbish!
September 1st, 2010 | 
Author: The PAP government is unable to define what a real ‘foreign talent’ is. The term itself is rubbish. The top-tier ‘talent’ of any country, its crème de la crème will never leave their homeland for a place like Singapore. Those who leave for Singapore, be they long-term talents or transiting ones, hoping to use Singapore as a launch-pad to better countries, are merely using Singapore. What Singapore attracts, unfortunately, is ’sour curd’.
An Indian university-graduated I.T engineer, versus a NUS/NTU-graduated engineer, what is the difference in their productivity, competencies, and their abilities to get the job done? Clearly, a NUS/NTU graduate cannot be any less competent than his/her Indian counterpart. If PAP asserts that an Indian univ-grad is better than a local one, then, perhaps something has gone very wrong with Singapore Ministry of Education’s tertiary education policies and the rigors of the programmes offered at NUS/NTU. So, for whatever excuses the PAP use to justify the influx of ‘foreign talents’, it is all lame.
Do not forget, 40 years of social engineering, of curtailing and controlling of the local graduate population, has resulted in the current shortage of local talents. Many who cannot afford an overseas university education have been forced to give up their dreams, take on lesser jobs, just to provide for their families – only to realize that in their lifetimes, that they will lose their jobs in short economic cycles, have their salaries reduced because of cheap foreign labour, and face the next cycle of uncertainties for their own children.
Yes, this is the legacy of 40 years social engineering – of producing a worker-class that cannot revolt against the ruling-class. The foolish social engineering process created by the PAP has resulted in a population base that cannot compete with the best of knowledge-based economies elsewhere. Only to justify their even worse solutions to this problem, by bringing in the zoo-class of clowns and pretenders, skivers at work who do little, but talk and play petty office politics. This is the type of ‘talent’ Singapore imports, and this is the short-term solution to a long-term problem. It is no wonder that the best solution to the Orchard Rd floods, are sandbags placed along the pavement – the real metaphor of the guys we pay millions to solve our problems, when the bunch of jokers are the one who created the problem in the first place.
And then of course, the greastest disservice any local company and its HR departments is guilty of, is the hiring process in which deference is given to the foreign talent, either because they are cheaper, or because they talk and market themselves so well, but often fail to deliver.
Take Hong Kong, Japan, Korea and Taiwan as our nearest comparison models, none of their homegrown corporations will hire or give deferential treatment to a foreigner, to the detriment of their local compatriots. How companies like Matsushita-Panasonic, Toyota, Honda, Samsung, Hyundai, LG, Acer, etc., grow beyond their own domestic market, is really about national pride, national identity, of creating a national brand that each citizen-worker can be proud of.
Any Korean worker can take the streets and go on strike, but it does not dilute their national pride and patriotism. Each engineer on the production line will still insist on exceeding the company’s quality control standards, just so that each product that rolls out of their plant, does not only represent their brand, it represents their country.
Where is this national pride?
How can a wife remain faithful and proud of her husband, if all he does, is to bring home an international variety of prostitutes each night to their marital bed? And his justification to his wife – you are not talented and skilled enough, I need variety, I need to procreate, the cheaper the whore, the better, as long as I get the job done. I want a multitudes of descendants, never mind their quality.
Between Singaporeans and their Government, a social and moral contract has been breached. And we have been betrayed.
There is no point expecting the same government to provide us with better solutions. We have seen and heard them all.
The only way forward, if we do not pack and leave, is for us to take control. We will need to create our own homegrown companies that hire Singaporeans with decent wages. We need to create the real Singapore for Singaporeans. It takes time, but it surely beats allowing the foreign talents to take over our marital beds and land. We are doing this for our children and their future. NS-men, your girlfriends, your wives, your children and all real-blooded Singaporeans, the war has started, and it starts on a psychological level. We fight the fine fight, we will take back our land, our jobs, and our homes.
Never mind what rubbish the PAP generates, it is all noise. Move on, fight to eliminate the trash we do not need. Create our own national brands and corporations, create our own billion-dollar corporations sans Temasek Holdings/GIC. Do not betray your own kind, the way the PAP has.
We are the real soldiers, we are the real matyrs.
Patriot
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Malaysia’s top lawyer at work. Just for laugh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=Cysgrhg8Hsc&feature=related
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We need people like you to LEAD the country. You have the making of a GREAT leader. I LOVE your vision. Close door policy is the way!
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Good article. Unfortunately we all need to vote some major spurs into the PAPpies assholes first.
Between a small local startup and a big foreign company, which do you think EDB will support? Who do you think will get much more $$$ grants, tax incentives, rebates etc? Even if you become moderately successful, GLCs and TLCs will swarm you out of the market, undercut you by 10X with hordes of cheaper younger foreigners. Remember that Keppel and SembCorp employ 15,000 foreigners to 5,000 locals —- somemore not all the 5,000 are true-blue citizens, many are double-headed PR snakes.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO THE SAME FUNDAMENTAL SOLUTION.
AND THAT IS TO STICK IT TO THE PAPPIES AT THE GE.
Come on, Singapore for Singaporeans!!
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aiyah
no first world government will accept Foreign Talent like the PAP did to singapore?
what PAP did to the singapore is called “prostituting of the nation”
which first world country allows massive influx of foreigner in such a short time.
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Unleash Hell! (Line taken from Galdiator).
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Totally agree with you 110%. Time to Boot them out ! Period !
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Some MNC here employs 98% Malaysian Chinese with the exception of security guards.
….even than I was told as much 60% of our security guards comes from Malaysia.
The moment PAP gave priority to Malaysia’s education over local the rest becomes automatic.The rot began to settle.
Me too wonder what had our rigorous educational system achieved.Labeling our kids as young as 10yrs old in their primary 4…when they ultimately loose out to Filipinos,Burmese,PRC & Indian villagers whose paper qualifications are highly questionable.
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Well said, I could not agree more.
Instead of getting the honey bees (useful and harmonious workers), by throwing the doors open so wide, we are getting all the flies (fill in your pet peeve).
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I urge all Singaporeans to reflect their feeling at the poll box. The first step must be taken by the People. Only then can the loyal Opposition start our work effectively FOR YOUR SAKE. It is our future, and we must take control of it today.
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I managed to chance upon the senior citizents who congregate at the People’s Park centre. They tell me that the “china women” who befriends them daily are real foreign talents! Without them, their daily routine would be dull and mundane!
Wonder if the Government is referring to them as FTs ?
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The purpose of bringing in tons of foreigners is primarily intended to drive operation costs low for investors. Productivity is not any different from that of a local, neither is it anymore cost efficient, considering they need to send the foreign employees to school, or some courses that is fundamental & critical, ie; english language course.
For decades, the generations before us probably left their brains at home when they head to the polling stations during GE. I hope this generation of voters won’t repeat the same as those before us.
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good piece. unfortunately, most employers i talk to – born here singaporeans – apply your phrase “skivers at work who do little” to their s’porean employees. frankly, if we want our jobs back, we need to show the bosses here how indispensable we are. so that after they hire sporean, they never want any other “brand” again.
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the next election will be using electronic system
the PAP will be able to scan you thumb print and monitor the time the vote you make
the result will be instantaneous in PAP screen panel
it would not be secrete
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N SINGAPORE MUST QUICKLY HELP THEM GET PR, THEN CITIZENSHIP.
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Well said. True Top Talent will not want to come to Singapore – the market is too small for them and they can make much more elsewhere. So we accept mediocre talent – treat them like precious – only to be used by them and discarded. Only a stupid government can keep doing this.
Why can’t we improve the education system and produce real local talent like Korea,Taiwan or Hong Kong. If the guy at the top is mediocre – the best you can get from his team is also mediocre.
I wonder how many of these Minister’s children themselves become “Quitters”, including the one who coined this label.
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On the aggregate,i can only say that we got in no talents;they all gone elsewhere.
what we got in are REJECTS!
THANKS TO THE GOVT FOR BRINGING IN THESE FTRASH TO LOWER OUR PRODUCTIVITY.
Since,our govt is so charmed and enchanted by these FTRASH,PM lee MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER STEPPING DOWN,and repalce himself with one of these trash?
if that be the case,i would from thenceforth,STOP BEING A “CAHMPION GRUMBLER”.
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i told you before, LKY hates us all.
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Which is more important to the government? Singapore or Singaporeans?
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Well said, Patriot.
My heart swelled with pride, and my eyes welled as I read the final statement -
“We are the real soldiers, we are the real matyrs”
The Alternative Parties must make a serious effort to do battle in every constituencies, and if there is any surprise upset of the apple cart – so be it, and let this be a FRESH START for Singaporeans instead of suffering a lingering pain for the next five years of hung battles in parliament.
It will be of little use if the Alternative Political Parties take 51% or 55% of the Parliamentary seats.
The Alternative Political Party must take at least 59% to 60% of the Parliamentary Seats, so as to have the Political Mandate to overhaul the entire system put in place by the Pro Alient Party – that will continue to run with their political appointees already slotted in to protect their interests, and sabotage all the new plans of a New Government formed by a duly elected Alternative Political Party.
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“Which is more important to the government? Singapore or Singaporeans?”
Neither. Money is more important
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my upmost duty is to get rid of foreign trash. and singapore traitor., 9k can buy my heart ,hope ruling party convert to opp party in 2014.. that will only benifit citizen like us. l rather give oppostion a try just 4 year, is enougt rather than unhapiness nw .
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y local uni students not being use u kno y or not… cause they r being taught by cheena ppl!!!
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Aiyoh, if our brain dead gah-men called for Foreign LABOUR to come, then all the howlian caste system Indians will be insulted and not consider lah. So use the word “Talent” lor to attract 1st then talk later. It’s always our lying deceitful gah-men to CON people to manipulate everyone. If not how to control Singapore forecefully for so many years?
Lim Pei smell foreign trash miles away before enter gah-men backside chute Swee Swee, has spoken
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Foreign Talent
Top CEO= that expand business, job creation, bring profitability
Low End Cheap= help us to be more competitive, do the jobs that local don’t want
Middle Management= there is don’t need to bring in foreign talent
In a competitive world
Govt. are tempted to fiddle with the Middle Management example Doctors, Lawyers, Dentist, Teachers, Nurses, Managers, Superior, News Broadcasters, Journalist, Techinicals, Engineers…etc
They hold the “biggest chunk” of employment, and in a Competitive World you sometimes Govt “cut corners” over here (which is a no go area)
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In Singapore, they love to associate Hookers, Coffeeshop helpers and Road Sweepers as “Foriegner Talent”
Does Singaporean want their daughters to work as hookers?
Does Singaporean want their sons to work as Coffeeshops helpers?
Does Singaporean want their sons to work as Roadsweepers?
Are their salary good enough to start a family to buy a house?
I don’t see these cheap labor as stealing our jobs
Because these are jobs that local natives do not aspire to do
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Cannot even tell which is ’sai’ and which is ‘poh’.
Some ’sai’ yellow, yellow they thought is gold.
Some ’sai’ ‘or, or’ they thought is black gold.
Anyone not ‘made’ in sg must be ‘ho’!!!!!
Now sg is full of yellow sai, black sai, si mi sai. The BIG problem now is how to get rid of all these sai????????
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“We are the real soldiers, we are the real matyrs..
And since there are no $9,000 carrots (or $”130,000) for ALL, those who have served NS and are now facing, competing with the foreigners on unequal footing, shud be voting for which party?
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Just saw a WDA sticker stuck on a trash bin at bus stop near my workplace. Oh the irony!
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THE WAR HAS STARTED!!
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Hi Patriot,
I am impressed by your rationale analysis. I believe all True Singaporeans will shared the same view and let’s stand up together.
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I suggest we don’t use the term “Foreign talent” on foreigners working in Singapore, this term is over rating them, we are making them look better than us when using this term. We should just refer them as “foreign worker”.As for those odd job laborer, we just refer them as “Foreign laborer”
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atobe:
September 1, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Well said, Patriot.
My heart swelled with pride, and my eyes welled as I read the final statement -
“We are the real soldiers, we are the real matyrs”
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atobe,i am even prouder of you than you are proud of Patriot.
only real men cry or weep,rather.
‘FALSE’ sinkies are only too happy to see the singaporeans suffer.
haiz.my heart aches to see the way we,singaporeans,are being treated by our own govt and bosses.
what a shame for NATIONHOOD,if there is any existing or maybe,the MIWS are trying to destroy what we painstakingly built?
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In PAP’s dictionary, talent mean they know how to follow the master blindly and bark as and when the master want. They are just place these as dummy to occupy parliament seats.
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<<>>
you see i am a chinese
i understand why and my heart does not ache at all
and i know chinese has 5000 years of history
and in those history, we were ruled by a system that runs though out that history.
some argue they do has democracy system in those time
i argue… how many time in percent of the 5000 years?
i am not surprise that chinese feel contented to be subjected to those dictatorial system.
the chinese mentality has problem developing a democratic system that works for them.
most of time, the democratic system is in disguise or fake
there is also hope in this sentence
you CANNOT correct a mistake if you do not KNOW what mistake you have MADE.
in UK, US and most democratic system in the west
they thrive on this
that is why their parties always arguing with each other
not to ridicule who did wrong but what mistake they have made
how to correct them and how not to repeat them again.
for the chinese
it system repeat itself over and over again
till today the old system is disguise under the word democratic in another form and explanation like
“UNIQUELY SINGAPORE”
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To cut the long story short, “talents” should be thoroughly scrutinized for the specific industry & jobscope they’re applying for employment in sg, and in due passage qualify for S-pass. (Besides, “talents” should in the 1st place be handpicked and/or head-hunted by the employers, n not flooding in like asylum seekers). The candidates should by default, upon entry to sg, satisfy all possible criteria which MUST include competency & proficiency in english and a 2nd local language.
I simply can’t find myself agreeing to the concept of a “talent”, who’s handicapped in the common language in sg, where he/she is incapable of integrating him/herself in our society. Let alone talk about efficacy and/or productivity.
If it is possible to stream our locals (as well as to quickly condemn the late-bloomers), then it should all the more be easier to benchmark & set criteria for incoming foreign candidates.
I sometimes marvel at how well the scholars design policies to torment their fellow countrymen, but make it easy for the under-par foreigners. Leaves me little to wonder, what other description befitting other than; double-standard
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Must read! Look at the kind of F***-UP FT students PAP is bringing into Singapore. These buggers are paid for by our money. You call them “talent”?
http://forums.delphiforums.com/3in1kopitiam/messages?msg=38285.1
http://theliberatingtruth.wordpress.com/2010/08/25/the-academic-blacklist-is-finally-up/
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Cesspool of talents, nothing more… its just one big cesspool of rubbish collected from various parts of the world.
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Singapore got to learn to care for each other 1st.. this is National Unity.
Our pioneers many are passionate and visionary. Through the years of social engineering, all become little cats. No one will stand up to fight for his fellow men anymore.
Everything must go through SOP.
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Where are all the stupid foreign talent that the STUPID GAHMEN so announced?
Will all the stupid foreign talent PLEASE STAND UP!or RAISE YOUR HANDS! for us to see your stupid face.
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‘An Indian university-graduated I.T engineer, versus a NUS/NTU-graduated engineer, what is the difference in their productivity, competencies, and their abilities to get the job done? Clearly, a NUS/NTU graduate cannot be any less competent than his/her Indian counterpart. If PAP asserts that an Indian univ-grad is better than a local one, then, perhaps something has gone very wrong with Singapore Ministry of Education’s tertiary education policies and the rigors of the programmes offered at NUS/NTU. So, for whatever excuses the PAP use to justify the influx of ‘foreign talents’, it is all lame.”
We have the best education system in the world, OK..so don’t play play. We are educated to follow orders only – don’t ask any questions.
If you ask too many questions, you will be replaced by Foreign Talent who will be so happy to be here (compared to their own country) they will not ask any questions….so in the end WIN-WIN solution for PAPA-YAYA party + FT but Local No-Talent get Knocked-Out!
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I’ve said before. That whebn PAP talked of “Meritocary”and “Talent”of Foreigners UNDEFINED and WITHOUT borders, they marginalize Singapore. SIMPLE TRUTH IS, With just China AND Idia with a combined population of nearly 2.5 BILLION, where does tha Singaporean stand? ESPECIALLY WHEN LKY the PAP strong-arm “strom right through this. As ther are always TWO side to anything, IT ISMPLY then ALSO mean that Singaporeans ARE DAFT to LKY. He said and compare US ALL and ALSO UNRESERVEDLY SO to International National Geographic Magazine PUBLICATION didn’t he! As “mm”, isn’t he the “mentor”of ALL ministers – Meaning also the “sifu” or the metor of PM and SM too right! So, who is the “real” PM of Singapore?
If he LKY, LHL GCT are to be peated against known International leaders of repute, and in a debate ALSO WITHOUT BORDERS, Just ad-hoc subject like they do to US Singaporeans about FTs, AM VERY SURE all three won’t stand a cahnce of not being knocked flat without prior preparations TO their advantage! So, fair of them to peat us Native Singaporeans to their so-called “Fts”? A lot of excretion gas me thinks. And since they calim we DO HAVE democracy, then they shouldn’t be annoyed or even take acrimony against my personl opinions ahared here. As they have their viewpoints and WE MUST then be allowed to share OURS right! Is this still a question in their self-righteous minds?
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In our GLCs and TLCs, how many actually does an independent background check (each check costs few hundreds Sing dollar per pax) on each and every one of the ‘Foreign Talents’ they hire?
There are many of these ‘Foreign Talents’ whose referrals, qualifications and/or certifications are fake, fabricated.
It is only companies, usually MNCs, with good recruitment policies and practices that would have such background check process in placed to safeguard their ‘investment’ in its human resources. In fact, even many MNCs don’t have such practice or only for higher management positions.
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i think who ever draft the speech for our PM needs his head examine or …..
trying to diffuse the FT issue
PM mentioned Keppel have 15000 FT and 5000 locals
if this is the norm
then he is just confirming what the public feel is right
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so many anecdoctal evidence n personal experiences that f trash/p rubbish can’t work n locals end up doing all the work, but these euphemistical talents, mostly, r third rate. the stupid gonmen is still sleeping.
except for low end work, n sex work, maybe better than locals.
top ceo r foreigners? our own locals r better.
but true blue sgs r usually honest n seldom crow about their work, so people think they r worth less. also must pay cpf, ns/reservist,maternity leave, so better get cheap fourein labour.
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the speed and urgency in allowing foreigners in
and not just that
but apparent equal or better benefits than local
really worries me
are we so incompetent, incapable, imbecile and etc that we cannot do anything useful that we need locals
even our social lives eg marriage also need government’s intervention
as a group we are finish
let the foreigners in and finish us in a dignified way
it is far better than having our heads chop
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I saw a pin-up job flyer in CDC Toa Payoh.
I was desperately searching for job, as I had been jobless for almost 2 years, so as what the DAMN STUPID gahmen always preach that we senior citizens (53 am I a senior citizen?) are choosy, I tried applying as a kitchen hand @ RE & S, i.e. ICHIBAN SUSHI office in United Square, I was rejected, most of those that went for the walk-in interview were pinoys.
Warn everyone not to eat @ ICHIBAN SUSHI!
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@veron
I think above 35 is considered overaged according to PAP. Last time I worked as a temp in factory, they only recruit people below 30 and they had to reject many older Singaporeans. It is a total lie that Singaporeans don’t want to do these jobs. The Malaysian workers were even given referral fees to recruit their young relatives.
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This article is spot on!
The only reason why foreigners are preferred over Singaporeans is cost. Across the board, from PMETs to those working in construction, retail and eateries, they are hired because they are cheap.
Now, being cheap is not a talent, is it?
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forign talent?
my general worker worked as a GD man for ten years here.
went for “skills Upgrading” by attending a 3 day course in welding by those licensed “training Centres”.
hes now a PR. back home in india he was a farmer herding cattle…
god knows what foreign talent is….farm n herd cattle talent.
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Guys! It is all about that old gecko in political deceit of Native Singaporeans haw! Remember he 1956 his “Repression….”mind boggling claims as opposition to David Marshal at the then Legislative Assembly. Didn’t he say of making love as a bit of conscience that first time and then to some guilty and then getting brazen with repeat attacks? The bugger was talking about ILLICT sex or filthy sex! Otherwise why should a guy get more and more BRAZEN In The ATTACK as he put it! And then didn’t he suddenly switch to works and then to political workers in organizations and to remove them? And then control radio (no TV then!) till they begin to SING the GAHmen’s song until errors ARE forgotten, till GAHmen can then do errors with imputnity! WHAT FILTH RIGHT OR NOT? Where’s his morals and ethics?
Didn’t he say too in the 80s around the time Dr. Goh Keng Swee left PAP in 1984 that he didn’t apologise that the pap is govt and that the govt is PAP? And also that he was also often accused of interefering with our PERSONAL lives. Like how we spit, use the lifts, etc. And then that they as PAP govt decide what’s good for us! As there’s no way to govern or rule the Chinese! HAH! How brazen and brawn he had been in power of speeches! Any hunmility from him for some 25 yrs++++? Then in 2004 to a report he did say too that he did shoot 200,000 student in Tiananmen Sq and so be it for the good of China in the next 100 yrs! He was asked what he would have done if he were in Deng Xiaopeng’s shoes then in 1987! Wau Lau Ooei! WHAT A MERCILESS IMPATIENT guy who is eveready to snuff out öther lives not of his liking and in his “tow” yah! IT SHOWS IT SHOWS LOR!
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Kojakbt:
September 2, 2010 at 12:56 am
I have seen the testimonial and if these mature adults “talents” are like this, then many younger scholars in primary and secondary is very much the same “questionable”.
This will make future degree certificate worth like rubbish. To the poor family, the hardworking child and good results will always graded as third class with such a controlled “education environment”. If property price is so insane and easily control nowadays, you think the certificate paper is even more easier to make 2nd class children worth like toilet paper. Remember Li Kah Shing’s son self proclaim Stanford University graduate? Even after the scandal, Harvard university still have the cheek to support him with a membership in International Advisory Board of the Center for International Development.
This is the reason why there are so many self-proclaim no.1 education that many parents in Singapore deceive themselves yet no one is contributing any breakthrough in any research field.
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I feel absolutely tired of life just because I am not academically inclined to study at the university and just because my family and I are not rich, we are doom for life. Its very tiring when you have to struggle against so many challenges in life. Its like waves after waves of problems pouring onto you like rising costs of living, foreign talents fighting for jobs with you, low paying jobs and unreasonable bosses, etc etc etc. There is only so much that one can endure in life. I have reached my max, honestly. There is simply no hope for me in this world. Thats why I really hope that I would be dead rather than suffer anymore. Perhaps this is my karma, maybe? But I couldn’t care about the reasons anymore. All I know is I am dead if I am poor and not educated, that’s all. No such thing as miracles in this world.
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