Response to PM Lee’s NDR 2010 speech
September 6th, 2010 | 
Author: Dear PM Lee,
I refer to your National Day Rally speech televised live on 29 Oct 2010.
You said there is a trade off between high growth and the acceptance of more workers. However, we should not grow for growth’s sake but should seek prosperity instead. Many first world European cities do not resort to the mass importation of workers to sustain their strong economies and their high standards of living. There is no reason why we can’t be likewise.
You said the winning design of the Duxton plain site has led to it becoming one of the most sought after HDB projects in Singapore. In case you’re not aware, existing flats around the Duxton plain are also amongst the most sought after in Singapore. Nearly all record HDB transactions come from that area. So it begs the questions of whether Duxton Plain is most sought after because of a winning design or because of its location.
You said foreigner influx is not uncontrolled because we have dependency ratios and foreign worker levies. But having those measures in place does not guarantee that the control will be well functioning just as having drains doesn’t guarantee that floods will be well controlled.
You said Texas’ many immigrants contributed to its vibrancy as well as its cutting edge in medical research. There are many European countries that do not have as many immigrants and yet are also at the forefront of scientific research. You said Texas benefitted from immigration even as neighbouring states like California and Arizona have tightened up. But the per capita GDP of both California and Arizona are higher than that of Texas. So being open to immigrants did not make Texas better than California or Arizona.
You referred to Microsoft’s setting up of an office in Vancouver, Canada across from Redmond, USA as an example of how Canada has benefitted from liberal immigration policies and how the US has suffered from its strict policies. But what exactly are those benefits to Canada and those losses to the US? As far as employment of citizens in rich software development jobs is concerned, neither Canada nor the US will benefit because the bulk of those jobs are going to foreigners regardless of whether the office is in Canada or the US. The most tangible benefit therefore has to be the auxilliary services to these foreigners in terms of the sale of groceries, meals and other daily expenses. These are largely low value added jobs. So if our concern is on the high value added jobs that Microsoft offers, then it makes no difference whether the office is in Vancouver or Redmond.
You said we should cheer for our national sportsmen even if they are foreign born because when they win, the Majulah Singapura is played. When Ben Johnson won gold in 1988 and the Canadian national anthem was played, no doubt all Canadians cheered. But when Ben Johnson was subsequently found to have cheated and stripped of his Olympic Gold medal, it means all the cheering had been in vain. So playing the national anthem doesn’t automatically warrant cheering. Ultimately, the people must feel the legitimacy of the victory.
You said we have given $400 million to 400,000 workers on Workfare and that that’s a lot of money. But on average, each worker gets only $1,000, a pittance compared to SM Goh’s wife’s definition of peanuts.
You said we have 22,000 new flats coming along but we don’t have 22,000 new couples getting hitched every year. Nevertheless, there is a huge backlog of couples who are currently putting up at their parents’ homes because they hadn’t been able to secure a place of their own. If you add those backlogs, 22,000 many not be sufficient.
You referred to MM Lee’s generation of leaders as the founding fathers who built our nation. You are wrong. There is one and only one founding father of Singapore and that is Sir Stamford Raffles. Our nation did not suddenly spring up from nothing in 1965. Behind 1965 were many more years of toiling without which 1965 would not have been possible.
You said the people who came before MM Lee’s generation had separate loyalties to different countries. Are you saying that Lim Bo Seng who died for Singapore while fighting the Japanese had no loyalty to Singapore? While Lim Bo Seng fought the Japanese, your father worked for them instead. Now, as we celebrate national day, Lim Bo Seng is all but forgotten but your father has become the ‘founding father’. We should not whitewash the contributions of the Singapore pioneers who came before MM Lee. If the conceiving and championing of a Malayan identity is an important contribution of the so-called ‘founding fathers’, then it seems odd that our first Chief Minister, Mr David Marshall was not even mentioned at all. There was hardly any fight for independence as far as MM Lee and his comrades are concerned. No blood was shed by him or his comrades. Also, there is no fighting of ‘communists’ as far as the term ‘communist’ is concerned. Even until today, even after locking them up and robbing them of their most fruitful years of their lives, we still have not been able to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they had been ‘communists’. Yet we continue to label them as ‘communists’.
So it is important to not just remember our founding fathers properly but to recognise that they span many generations stretching all the way back to 1819.
Ng Kok Lim
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Are you saying that Lim Bo Seng who died for Singapore while fighting the Japanese had no loyalty to Singapore? While Lim Bo Seng fought the Japanese, your father worked for them instead.”
well said..
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I like ur article so much. Keep it up.
Lee KY is simply a traitor working for Japanese.
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Beautiful, and well-written.
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KoK Lim, very well said. well done.
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PM Lee and PAP always try to smoke the people.
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Huh??? LKY worked for the japanese in WW2? Are u sure? please elaborate.
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Cherry pick cities/countries/data for comparison for benefits? This fcuker is the liar through and through. For a person holding such a high office, he ought to arrested, and spank with his butt over his father’s knee.
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Peoples fight against Japanese…..u work with Japanese fight against peoples. Well done. Traitor LEE.
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It is actually alright to work for the Japanese government at that time. People do need to survive. What cannot be forgiven is that LKY and President Nathan worked for the Kempetei, the dreaded Japanese secret police who were behind almost all the war atrocities.
Even today Nathn tries to hoodwink us by saying that he worked for the Japanese civil police. There is no such thing! There was only the Japanese army here and they were the police.
These two, LKT and Nathan worked as interpreters, a largely clandestine effort in those days.
We will never forget and we will never forgive. It is time we reclaimed our country and vote out the PAP before more damage is done to our country.
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If your precious son PM Cancer LEE die before you, who’s going to be the next PM?
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66.6% of the voters,The ‘majority’, pls read Mr Ng articles.
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Actually I agreed with the Writer..Both “LYK” and “Nath-the-neh”,worked for the Japanese…to keeep themselves alive and better living conditions than others …whilst beinga “Traitors” to its own fellow countrymen…………
50yrs later…they have displayed their same “true Colours”.
Can this guy be “trusted” ???
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i am flabbergasted. I am 40 year old and i am reading this now… that LKY and Nathan were working for the japanese secret police during WW2. I think my sense of reality has been severely jolted. It’s a mix bag of emotion. Anger, betrayal … also of disbelief. Most ppl of my generation or earlier will not know this.
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Well written article.
It makes me puke when the PAPayas glorify their “founding father of Singapore”. It turns out that he is just a big liar, actor, betrayer of our time.
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i wonder will straits times publish this article if you send to them. my parent and grandparent suffered under the japanese during the japanese occupation period and to know that lky working for them during that period is a great shock. should let my parent and many other older generation know about this. great article.
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Ng Kok Lim, you really write well. A very provocative line of thoughts that could drown PM Lee’s National day 3 hours speech which lacks substance in depth and breath. Nowadays, the National day rally speech turned into a 3 hours self-assessment scorecard and self-praise platform. Over the last 10 years, the entire National parade and rally seems to choreography around PAP = Singapore. The entire PAP political party has totally forgotten who builds and makes Singapore as a country; it’s not PAP alone…it’s our forefathers and not LKY alone. And I totally agree with Kok Lim’s comment that the founding Father of Singapore is Sir Stamford Raffles as taught in our history book unless MOE wants to rewrite our history book. Let’s be clear about who’s our founding father first.
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well said. pap cannot do the job. just have them replaced with opposition party. The result of No competition causing all these problems thrown at us..
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i don’t know but to me,it’s hard to really trust guys who like to wear pink.
A MAN’S GOOTA KEEP HIS WORD,,NOT MINCE IT.
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Lee Kwan Yew and famiLEE, BURN, yes i said BURN in hell.
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Always enjoyed reading your articles.Very well written.
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Lee Kwan Yew us a big liar. He is a traitor who worked for Japanese.
He worked for the British to keep Singapore a colony.
He still sucks blood off Singaporean and benefit foreigners. History will remember his as a tyrant and a dictator. Let us take him out and pull him down when he is alive. Let him feel he is nothing but a small man.
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hey Ng,
Cmon la its not even close to a good article(no im not a PAP fan). Your arguments are flawed so much to the extend that even a primary school could see its flaws.
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PM Lee, you have been elected into parliament to serve the people – simple as that.
There is no 2 ways about it i.e. either to serve the people or being replace by someone else.
Singaporeans deserved much much more from politicians.
Singaporeans must be willing to go in-search for the best man for the job..
Like Britian having elected a new Prime Minister Mr. Cameron, Singapore is willing to try a new PM if necessary for the good of Singapore and Singaporeans.
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Young LKY was employed as an Japanese Imperial Army Intelligence Officer intercepting British radio signals in 1943-1945 (WWII Japanese Occupation of Singapore).
Very little is known about what was LKYs actual duties and responsibility over that periods.
Was he engaged as a spy for the Japanese Imperial Army?
50,000 innocent Singaporeans lost their lives in WWII.
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It’s good that these truths come out. It’s no wonder that many Singaporeans do not know that LKY and Nathan were turncoats during the Japanese occupation when our fathers and grandfather’s were fighting for Singapore. LKY and his croneys have successfully hidden the truth by controlling the media, but the truth in the end is still the truth and will get out.
More Singaporeans need to know this and stop believing that Singapore was a wasteland and LKY single-handedly built it up.
All he did was subjugate Singaporeans with high debt and a cost of living. With the billions they’ve siphoned from us and the small size of this island (not to mention it’s fantastic geographical location), of course Singapore can be polished to shine like it is. Off all our sweat and sacrifices though.
However only LKY and the PAP are claiming full credit for this.
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Very well written. The two Lees are very good liars and storytellers indeed. The good thing is that Singapore did not end up like North Korea in an economic sense. That is where the two Lees have used their story-telling, history twisting skills to great use. They are so good at talking cock that the world believes they did a good job although everyone knows Singapore has an autocratic government. Unlike Kim Jong-il who enjoys detonating nuclear bombs to show his anger, we have the Lees who excel at bullshitting people. They have lots of nice stories for entertaining VIPs, foreign ministers, CEOs and all the rich and powerful people. Its not an option for them right? So shall they speak the truth? Detonate a nuclear bomb? Humiliate themselves and shut down PAP? Of course not. Just carry on the bullshitting as long as Singapore does not end up like North Korea. Its no wonder all our top civil servants are like-minded. All those who managed to raise through the ranks are highly skilled bullshitters, storytellers and backstabbers. MM Lee does not need straight talking doctors, lawyers, engineers or accountants who are highly skillful but blunt. He needs more ballcarriers and running dogs, especially dogs who can sing and dance to his tune.
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They would come out with a rebuttal by bringing up Singapore as suitable to governed with “Asian” values. Haha bullocks.
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sam selamat:
September 6, 2010 at 4:21 pm
I too m shocked by this revelation. Dont think people in their time knew too or these 2 would have been lynched by the public after the Japanese surrender. Does TR has any idea how and when did this revelation came about?
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My father fight under Force 136 in WW2, he knows Lim Bo Seng personally, What the Traitor Lee and Nathan did is to get my dad and the resistance fighter caught and kill. No matter what story he try to BS me, I will not forgive him for what he did, during the darkest hour of Singapore, when woman and children are being murdered, this 2 have the heart to work for the enemy.
Now you want me to acknowledge them as “Founding Father of Singapore”?
I’ll most likely to spit on their grave.
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DAFT VADER:
September 6, 2010 at 7:57 pm
It is on Wikipedia, along with references.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew#Early_life
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Historians may say that William farquhar is the real founding father. Raffles came and signed a treaty then left. he came back only to visit two more times. It was Farquhar that planned, executed and governed the city making it work, laying the foundation for a modern and prosperous city.
As for Lim Bo Seng, he considered himself a Chinese national, but that was immaterial because back then Singapore was not a nation and Japan was a common enemy regardless whether you are a chinese in Singapore, Malaya or China.
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I hope this cancer prince die before the old man. Since the old man cannot die, let him bury his own son and I will be laughing when the day come!
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This article should be posted in parliament for debate. Will any MPs do so?
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Mr Ng, if you contest in my ward, I will vote for you, regardless of what party you are. This is what we meant by democracy and embracing talent.
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So well written. Thank you Mr Ng Kok Lim. So wished that this article could be pasted in the Straits Times and everywhere for all to read.
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When YEW tell a lie too often, it becomes the truth!!!!
Year after year, LEE CON YOU will continue to lie. so live with it until we PAP SMEAR them out of office.
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Well well well, the truth will prevail!
Since we are not hearing any lawsuit that means it is the TRUTH
Let’s see if ah meng can fight his way thru
It must be recorded in Singapore history book for the future generation.
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You said, yes, you said it all.
beautiful responses.
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Sad Singaporean:
In the straits times today one reader said it very well:
The measures to curb property esclation, transport congestion and the influx of foreigners appear to be knee jerk reactions rather than well planned measures. The Govt is in the best position to plan ahead with information from statistics on population numbers availabilty of accommodations, number of commuters the system can take, number of vacancies in schools and such. It should be able to regulate the inflow of foreigners without causing a sudden crunch on our infrastructure, jobs and social stability. All these problems arose over the years because of a LACK OF FORESIGHT AND SWIFT RESPONSE”
Yet we have all the propaganda in the PAP controlled media and highly paid salaries of MPs justifying their existence and changing the voting and electoral boundary and system such as GRC and harsh reality of punishing and discrediting the constructive views of opposing members. This is Singapore and the voters in Singaporea are either sleeping, given up or the spirit is dead in Singapore. What have we gain economically when the spirit and identity as a Singaporean is dead. There is no point reviving it with the National Day parade or YOG. It is dead?
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this is certainly one of the best article i read so far
objective
keep up the good work
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Hang the Traitors:
September 6, 2010 at 8:45 pm
this is a serious accusation
i hope it is true
because i want to believe you
but i cannot believe in faith
we need concrete proof
as we also need proof that MM Lee was working for the Japanese
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Yes Expose !!!! Expose it all the way!!! Dont let the truth be suppressed but truly be shed it out!
We need to hear the truth and the truth will set singaporeans free from all tyrannies!!!!
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Lee Kuan Yew, history will not forget you. You are the greatest… Liar in Singapore’s history. You worked for the Kempeitai. Indirectly or directly as a result of your actions, you caused those who fought to free Singapore to die. You are a traitor. Lim Bo Seng and Lt Adnan Saidi are the REAL heroes. David Marshall fought for Singapore’s independence way before you. In fact, you did not fight for independence at all! It just so happened that Malaysia kicked us out. That is fact. You can try to whitewash history, but the truth will always prevail. Did you not propose Lim Chin Siong to be detained under the ISC because he stood in the way of your rise to power? Even the late Lord Selkirk did not want anything to do with your plan. The late William Goode also opposed your political manipulation of the ISC. When you pass on, as all men will, the truth will be displayed for all the world to see. Come clean, Mr Lee, for the next life awaits you.
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hey picknose man,dun talk cock can or not.
what proof you want.
must we prove you are PAP mole.
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LEE CON YOU the great deceiver
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Didn’t like the article that much. Kind of flawed in argument. BTW I’m not a PAP supporter.
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LKY, ask you something, do you beleive in God or in yourself? You should know that there are abandance of science theories that God exists. you wont live much longer because of your extreme advanced age, Death will claim you in a split-second anytime of the day and you will meet your Creator. If you want to laugh, scoff,… I can assure that you won’t be laughing once Death claims you. btw I doubt you can sleep well everynight because you have done so many bad things in your life. Your conscious must be pricking your senses… You are purely a vulnerable naked warm blooded human but not cold blooded nor God.
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Was he engaged as a spy for the Japanese Imperial Army?
50,000 innocent Singaporeans lost their lives in WWII.
If this is true, then this demon have to kneel down and ask for forgiveness and apologise to those citizens grandparents whose lives has been destroyed during WWII, do it like a man.
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Here’s a suggestion for all doubters out there. Get your hands on this book: “Comet In Our Sky”. The real history of Singapore. When I was young, I had great admiration for LKY. Reading “A Nation Cheated” by CSJ and “Comet In Our Sky” blew away all respect for the man. FYI, “Comet” was written by a British historian with no interest in Singapore politics, and was merely an academic exercise. CSJ quoted that book liberally too. Go read both books first, and then argue.
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Hang the Traitors:
September 6, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Thanks for sharing the truth.
What Lee has been doing is to work for his interest. By making Spore prosper, he’s earning himself power and weath.
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“Having taken Chinese and Japanese lessons since 1942, he was able to find work transcribing Allied wire reports for the Japanese, as well as being the English language editor on the Japanese Hodobu (報道部 — an information or propaganda department) from 1943 to 1944.”
-Wikipedia article on LKY
Is that enough evidence, picknose?
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frend its 29 august not oct 29 lee kuwan yee is the mp ,thts y they built the duton flat
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Well said, Kok Lim. Keep it up. The PAP is getting more ignorant of simply living in their dreams of LKY being the founding father of Singapore.
So we are actually paying the wrong deference and respect to a traitor as the Founding Father and his equally treacherous political party, which is now in the midst of selling out Singaporeans to foreigners, which he co-founded.
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I am then the founding father of Singapore lah. I successfully spliced the lion and the fish. That’s how Singapore got the merlion!
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The police are watching. Be careful of defamation suits coming along Ng’s way.
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The writer has written nothing but the truth and how can that be defamation?
Please enlighten me.
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@Private: why must be careful if we are saying the truth? this is a free society, not a commie police state! speaking the truth is not about ‘defaming’, geddit?
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good article but not publicised enough..here in TR, outreach is not broad enough..
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@DC: you’re right. probably it’s not sufficient that foreign press are reading Temasek Review. TR could proactively invite foreign journalists to receive email alerts! No, make it local too – invite the SHITTY Times to be on alert too, to show that TR is truly a liberal and reliable source of news ABOUT Singaporeans, FOR Singaporeans.
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ahgohgoh:September 7, 2010 at 5:34 am
…invite the SHITTY Times to be on alert too, to show that TR is truly a liberal and reliable source of news ABOUT Singaporeans, FOR Singaporeans.
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Allo Allo, this is NOT the time and place to howlian your integrity to gain unnecessary “respect” since our common enemy NEVER fights fair. Sun Tzu would have had treated our enemies like mushrooms-feed them shit and keep them in the dark !
Lim Pei Sun Tzu descendant fights to win Swee Swee , has spoken
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According to information about LKY from Wikipedia –
“During the occupation, he operated a successful black market business selling tapioca-based glue called Stikfas.[8] Having taken Chinese and Japanese lessons since 1942, he was able to find work transcribing Allied wire reports for the Japanese, as well as being the English language editor on the Japanese Hodobu (報道部 — an information or propaganda department) from 1943 to 1944.”
[See Ref #1 below]
Black market operation, interpreting Allied wire reports for the Japanese, English language editor of a Japanese newspaper recognised as an extension of the Japanese Propaganda Department.
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In the 2005 Singapore Presidential Election, the approved nomination list being trimmed to one candidate – that of S.R. Nathan, which led to a public outcry that was reported by Asia Press Service.
“Expressing shock at the government’s rejection of Mr Kuan’s bid, the SPF argued that “if the incumbent, despite his poor performance and his alleged connections with the Japanese Kempeitai during World War II, is allowed to run for the Presidential Election, there is no reason for a more qualified candidate like Mr Kuan to be denied the ‘Certificate of Eligibility’”. ”
[See Reference #2 below]
Since APS was not taken to task for the report, one can safely conclude that the report about Nathan’s association with the hated Japanese Kempeitai must be true.
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From the book – ‘The Fajar Generation’ – information from the Colonial Archives allow one to also noted that in the politics of the 1950s, LKY had made numerous efforts to engage the Colonial Government in Singapore to exercise their powers of detention, and get the Special Branch – (equivalent to the present day Internal Security Department) – to arrest the Left Wing members of the PAP.
It is obvious that his familiarity with the brutality of the Japanese during WW-2 had guided his instincts to use the same methods to deal with political dissidents and detractors.
It is not a surprise that S.R.Nathan was the choice to head the Internal Security Department for all his working life – as he had the experience working with the hated Japanese Kempeitai.
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Reference 1
Lee Kuan Yew – Early Life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew#Early_life
Reference 2
‘Singaporeans plan massive protest against Nathan’ – APS
http://singabloodypore.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2005/8/14
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next SIA CEO maybe Lee HY lo!
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Come and publish Ng Kok lim article in STRAIT aka SHITTY Times please.
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I’m glad that after reading this article most TR readers now know the fact about sg tractor.
folks, ple spread this fact to all your family, relatives, friends, etc. ask them to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew#Early_life
Wikipedia is a free online encyclopedia
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I definitely agree about the Sir Stamford Raffles, Lim Bo Seng and David Marshall parts. LKY definitely comes way after these 3 people who have given so much to Singapore. Every single of the 3 people have contributed much more to Singapore than the current leaders we currently have.
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he is overstating how many “immigrants” are there in texas. I rather see numbers in comparison to SG, instead of listening to this random comparison. rubbish.
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WOW! this is the most interesting article and remarks I have ever read… LKY and nathan as traitors, who are partly responsible for 50,000 deaths… my god and how did they even manage to become who they are today. People wake up!
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李光耀是汉奸，走狗，卖国贼！
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My only response is that anyone who thinks Sir Stamford Raffles founded Singapore is sadly deluded. In 1819, he negotiated the rights to set up a trading post on Singapore island. Singapore had 500 years of history as a trading outpost and port before that. It was John Crawfurd (Governor of Singapore 1823-1826) who obtained the rights to Singapore as a British colony.
However, Raffles had the political clout to tarnish William Farquhar’s name and establish his own reputation as founder of Singapore. The main lesson to learn is that messing with political clout, even if you are right, is a thankless task.
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This is a propapanda.
Lee KY is the savior of Singapore. The founder and the greatest politician in the world.
He is honest, generous, kind, caring and loving leader. We owe him a lot. Without him without today’s Singapore.
Don’t be ungrateful.
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Quote from PM “If you are a taxi driver and somebody comes into your taxi and speaks with a Chinese mainland accent, show him around, tell him where to go, he may already know if he’s here some time but show him to the right place”
Read this message and took a chinese tourist for a ride and show him around, and then what happen??? he complain to my company!!!! why?? he complain I overcharge him and took a much longer ride!!! of course it cost more as I took him to all the attractions in Singapore and its past midnight so extra charge!!!
Then next day, 1 chinese lady passenger ask me where she can find places where she can feel at home, so I thought why not show her where to go – bring her to geylang to be with fellow PRC – knn complain also…. I literally take advice from our PM but see what did I get????
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Serious?! You guys didn’t know?! The Old Man had written about his involvement in his bloody memoirs for crying out loud! Of course he glossed over it but come on. It is no revelation. I guess it brings new meaning to ‘hiding in plain sight’.
But to be fair to the guy, what choice did he have? He was no Lim Bo Seng, he was no Gandhi or Mandela. He was just a young kid whom the Japs could have killed had he not played ball. HE did what he had to do to save his skin. We would have done the same. I just wish our education system was honest about his involvement instead of hiding it but what did you expect? Old Man to come out and say ‘hey by the way I was a war collaborator for the Japs?’. He’d have lost every election.
It’s our fault for not asking the right questions.
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Singapore is often hit by lightning strike. Maybe god send lightning to strike these whiter than white pigs for oppressing his people.
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Ahh! Now we know why Old Man is still alive. It’s Heaven’s will! Heaven is waiting for this Old Man’s dirty doing to be known to all S’poreans before bringing him to Hell to be punished.
If he had died earlier, MANY of us would then be forever conned to believe he’s the founding papa of SG liao!
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Actually LKY is an opportunist. Nevertheless he has contributed to Sg but sad to say that our country is spinning downwards due to the government incompetence. How?
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So we elevate collaborators and forget war heroes? How Uniquely Singapore…. really very little hope left.
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SIGH…HEAVEN NO EYES AH…..GOOD PEOPLES MATI FASTER THAN EVIL PEOPLES. SEEMS LIKE THIS FELLA IS NOT GOING TO R.I.P.
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These are all very salient points but I doubt the authorities would see this article, let alone care to reply to Mr Ng. We can only hope someone from the opposition would polish these statements and bring them up in parliamentary debates.
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So well said, revealing and thoughtful and subtle. Thank you for such a well written essay.
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