No updates on Lee Kuan Yew’s condition as netizens “rejoice”
September 30th, 2010 | 
Author: There are no further updates on the condition of PAP strongman Lee Kuan Yew who was admitted to the Singapore General Hospital yesterday for a chest infection.
In a terse statement released yesterday, Lee’s press secretary said:
“Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew was planning to attend Dr Balaji’s (Senior Minister of State Balaji Sadasivan) wake this evening, but the doctors at SGH have just admitted him for treatment of a chest infection.”
The octagenarian suffered a fall on Monday, but still attended a Russia-Singapore Business Forum on Tuesday. He had just returned from an overseas trip to Moscow, Kiev and Paris last week.
Over at Singapore General Hospital, there was nothing unusual. Lee is likely to be warded at Ward 78. According to a SGH doctor who spoke on the ground of anonymity, there is a ward “reserved” solely for Lee and his immediate family members in the “A” class ward.
Though the mainstream media has always proclaimed Lee as the “founding father” of Singapore, not many Singaporeans do think of him this way as evident from the more than 200 comments posted on TR’s article by netizens so far, the majority of whom are actually praying for Lee to have a speedy “demise” instead of recovery.
mac wrote:
“Those who live their lives believing it better to be feared than to be loved should expect that beneath the veneer of fear lies depths of derision. It is never nice to wish death upon anyone, but those who have the blood of innocents on their hands have done much more than wish death upon others.”
Forecaster Extraordinarie II added:
“From the way I see it, Sinkaporeans is not wanting MM Lee to DIE literally, all they wanted was for MM Lee to GET THE FCUK OUT OF THEIR LIVES! However, since MM Lee is adament on retaining control of Sinkapore till his dying breath, the only way for that to happen is for MM Lee to meet his maker, the best alternative choice for Sinkaporeans. Thus the DYING part.”
PLP quipped in Chinese:
“该看的都看了！这只老狐仙已经差不多游完整个地球了，是时候到别的星球了!”
(Translation: This old fox has toured almost the entire earth, it is about time he goes to another planet!”)
Even those who thought he had done some good for the nation wished to see him “go” soon as dununderstand who wrote:
“Even if he does indeed move on, it will be good for him. Why are you all wishing for him to recover. I believe for his own good, he should really be taking a rest now, may he find peace in the afterlife. PS. I don’t hate him, I believe he has all done us good and deserves a good rest.”
(Read all the comments here)
Had Lee stepped down for good in 1990 together with the rest of the Old Guards, he would be loved, respected and venerated by young Singaporeans as the “founding father” of Singapore.
Unfortunately, he chose to cling on to power and overstay his welcome. In the meantime, Singaporeans continue to wait with bated breath from the latest news from SGH.
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he really CBL ….go holiday KLKK and come back to Spore for report sick ???? No need to work yet drawing a sky high salary
Old man step down and go fly kite la
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I wish him early death. Good for all Singaporeans both local and overseas. Tang Liang Hong etc can come back and lead the opposition.
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What will the headline be upon his passing? I remembered the headline in ST when Tun Abdul Razak (then Malaysian PM and father of current Malaysian PM) passed away was “”Razak is Dead”. Doesn’t sound like there was much respect as portrayed in the handing over of an old photograph of the two between the two now PM sons. Maybe the Malaysian newspapers will reciprocate with the headline “Lee is Dead”.
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timing is right…just before next election…
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http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/business/article/singapore-swing-playing-for-global-wealth-crown/
Thank you MM.
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IMOH no need to visit his wake or bid him farewell when he is gone. I gonna call up spme friends to celebrate.
Then there will be the beginning of a new chapter in the history book.
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Was told that the Lee’s even blocked off a section of a Khek colabarium! Even in death, they are attached to their “reputation” (“a class above all”). Do you blame people for naming them the Lee Dynasty?
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He is the singapore version of mustafa kemal ataturk who just refuses to give up and let go..
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there are so many signs showing the end of the regime. we singaporeans are puppets of the regime. they dictate everything from how we should live, how much we earn and etc. its time singaporean have some freedom to live a better life. watch the coming election….
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JBJ (1926 to 30-09-2008)
LKY (1923 to 30-09-2010)
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if everyday thousands if not millions continue to curse him,u think this karma will not work even with all the feng shui he protects himself with…he deserves a “good rest” for good and gone!
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Nothing will save him. The last leaf is 87 years old and is crumbling under the hot sun, the falling rain and the strong gusty wind. Soon it will detach itself from the branch and wilt. A life gone and another awaits. Singapore will rejoice. All bad things will come to an end. There will be a new beginning, a new re-awakening, a new life for all Singaporeans. God is Great.
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The amount of cursing and hatred shown reviews how Singaporeans feel about this fellow. He overstayed his welcome and start meddling; screwing up the lives of thousands. Please go to hell old fart. Yr good friends and thousands of yr enemies (political rivals, NS men, dead aborted babies) are eagerly waiting for him.
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Are all of you inhuman? You are actually cursing an old man to die early?
Think about what you’re saying. Your own mothers would be ashamed of you.
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As much as I don’t agree with everything the man did, I seriously don’t think it does TR any service as the supposed unequivocal voice of the average SIngaporean to reprint some of the more unsavoury comments about him in this article, no more than SPH printing only the comments that might glorify the ruling party.
Pardon, but your opposition slip is truly showing this time. Not only that, but it does show the calibre of people it is made of.
Come on, TR. If you want credibility, be fair. Your credibility has to be earned.
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Old Fart Mati already.
Teh Cheang Wan is waiting for Old Fart….
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I think for heaven’s sake our PM should retire his father for his own good. He is not fit to be a PM if he still needs a mentor.
The Mentor post is a real joke for Singapore.
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Planning to attend Dr Balaji’s wake? Suddenly have chest infection?
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Hmmmm….think gotta start preparing “cleaning up” of the 3 tablets @ Marina for Permanent Occupation very soon !
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A dictator has to eat his own words as he apparently cannot take the pressure of working and travelling at his age. Why can’t he take good rest and retire gracefully for his own health?
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LKY’s time is almost up … may he rot in hell for a long time.
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Is the a**hole dead yet? That will be our real Independence Day!
Can’t wait to sign the “condolence” book, and pee on his grave!!!!!!!!
Wonder what TR’s headline will be when the dictator finally kicks the bucket! Hope he’s reading our posts and gets so angry, he explodes!
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Please do not think that MM LKY’s death will bring about an automatic and blanket solution. The PAP Government has got control of the state organs – the legislative, executive and the judiciary.
If LKY passes on, the PAP regime may just tighten the controls and Singaporeans will be no better off unless the people decide on affirmative actions. But this will be disasterous.
But hopefully better judgement prevails and the Government loosen up on many things and are prepared to share power with the opposition. It will also have to unwind the many unpopular legislations promulgated and adopt a transparent policy. The Government will also have to stop the ‘talking down’ and rid itself of the ‘we know best’ attitude.
Singaporeans must get rid of the vestiges of the Lee dynasty but must not seek revenge. Maybe we should have a truth commission and re-write the history of Singapore.
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I cant imagine there is so many of you cursing our founder. He work so hard for the ppl yet he get all the critics. It is hard to let go of something u took so long and much effort to build. For those of you if not happy can move out and try living somewhere else and be a quitter! No wonder he still worry about our young ones…
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Pap will build a mausoleum for him.Just like Moe Je Dong,tourists can enter and pay respect at an entrance fee of $10.
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Ward 78 SGH. Special A ward.
With the expectations of more dignitaries and their loved ones falling ill in the future, landing on their knees, landing up in hospital wards, and shutting down the area causing inconvenience to the public, I hope the government will build a private special hospital ward or area just for them and for the sake of their privacy and security.
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After consuming tens of thousands of human souls in this country, he is now immortal..
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ok. this is really going too far.
its one thing to disagree with his method of ruling a country, but to go so low as to wish death upon another human being?
look, we’ve all made mistakes in our lives, and while your way of thinking differs greatly to lky’s, as does mine, this is still no way to talk or think.
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Remember he once said Singapore can build casino but over his dead body.
His self-cursed becoming a reality now.
Heard his body will be display in glass chamber with wipers all round to anticipate the spitting he going to receive…LMAO.
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Hope LKY will recover soon.
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His son hoping he dies so PAP will have many more sympathy votes, anything best should happen only after GE so that from his own eye he can see more opposition entering parliament, with more voices, when any MPs, especially from PAP camp passed on, more opposition voices to pressure PAP for by-elections.
Want to kill a goat must do it slowly so that it can see its own blood oozing out but only an one way ticket to hell while nothing can be done to fix it.
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Its no wonder Singapore will never reach a first class nation. Just take a look at the comments from what i can see the people here are no better than a 3rd class nation though i do not agree with pap with all the things they did but cursing others ? Please reflect on yourselves.
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JUST GO LAH!!! bring his whole family along and go fkkking burn in hell!!!!
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Apache helicopter crash landed, brought down from high and hit the low.
No coincidence on earth.
No accident on earth too.
All things crashing down from high to hit the low stems from the Unseen. It is forced landing like all humans will be forced to go down on their knees to respect the Unseen if they refused to do so. It is no accident.
I hope humans and their leaders respect the Unseen to understand what is forced going down on the knees. Ponder this spiritually.
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the movie : A Time to Kill, starring Samuel L Jackson.
D.A. Rufus Buckley: Do you think they should deserve to die?
Carl Lee Hailey: Yes, they deserved to die and I hope they burn in hell!
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Holiday…Holiday…Holiday…
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Who say Singapore is first class nation?
What’s goes round comes round. Deal with it.
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Some arrogant fool said that if the opposition were to win the General Elections, He will send in the army.
Guess what? Just today’s news a RSAF helicopter snapped into two and forced landed in woodlands.
sounds like an omen to me,
HaHaHa.
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I am really really disappointed at what is being reflected here. Certainty I have never been a keen supporter of many PAP policies and in some ways MM Lee’s approach to political competition. But all of us in Singapore cannot deny him the credit for dedicating his life to Singapore and bringing us to where we are today. Of course there are weaknesses in our society, tell me one that doesn’t. But there is no doubt in my mind that we have progress much further than most in the short span of time we have.
While the “parenting model” of LKY is harsh, looking at the kind of ungrateful, irresponsible and uncouth comments here make me wonder if we are really ready to break free towards self governance. Be careful friends, of what you wish for. It’s is very easy to wish against what we do not like yet not knowing what we want. We can vote the party out, but do we have something better to offer ourselves?
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JB Jeyaratnam, Devan Nair, Lee Siew Choh, Ong Teng Cheong, Lim Chin Siong etc would like to see him.
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Yes, I pray and hope that he recovers and hopefully and most importantly recovers from the illness called megalomania!
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I think MM Lee fully deserves our well wishes. I am very sure there are many others who will pray for him. =)
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You can live forever by injecting the T-virus. Just call 1800-UMBRELLA-CORPORATION.
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Just die la old man. We dun need another useless old fart spending our tax $. Foreign trash overwhelming Sinkie, COE, ERP, GST, regular flooding, artificially high GDP, low pay, NS, blah blah
Just do to hell la. Stop wasting our tax dollars. Hope your son leaves with you too. CB MF KNN
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“Even from my sick bed, even if you are going to lower me into the grave and I feel something is going wrong, I will get up.”
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Maybe his son will wait for him to die then call for elections. Sure will get a lot of sympathy votes and return the pigs back to power.
Just might be the last throw of the dice for them.
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He is a old man, politics is like semi-retirement liao. He is not a threat, why don’t they leave him alone??? infact he can be a distraction to Opposition Party.
Just do your home and play your own game. In football, do you sent 6 players to mark Wayne Rooney??? Like that you fall into their traps liao, you are opening spaces as Rooney draws your players to him
Most experience coach, used Zone Marking, or the Nearest Guy mark him, at worse the sent only 1 guy to mark, to frustrate him and stop his flow of the game. But hor, I think you people are spending to many attention on him, wasting time.
Go and “re-engergize your grassroots” lah
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How old exactly is this PM LHL huh? How old liao still need a NANNY MM LKY to babysit him?
If he is any filial a son as he should be, then he should RETIRE his daddy and let him enjoy more quality but limited time with his wife, anyone disagree?
If PM LHL cannot work without a NANNY, then he SHOULD step down and make way for someone who can.
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And to TR, seriously, all these comments does wonders to your reputation doesn’t it? But at what expense? Your integrity? Common decency? This anonymity is but encouraging
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“Then the king told the attendants, ‘Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’
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If old fart really up lorry, the PAPies will be fumbling around like headless chicken. 1/3 will be engaging in internal power struggle, 1/3 will take cover & disappear, and another 1/3 will start liquidating properties & assets and prepare to fly to their overseas homes.
When the old fart really kicks the bucket, I bet 67% of Sinkies will openly vote for opposition candidates. Now even with old fart around to keep holding hand of the son, so many Sinkies already no confidence and pissed with current batch of PAPies. What more when the old fart finally kenna vaporized in the crematorium liao?!?
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Who first, Kim Jong Il or Lee Kuan Yew?
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If he can lock people up without trial for decades,what so wrong if people curse him for his cruelty leh?
So be fair lah.Let us use an analogy lah:Don’t tell me you expect a rape victim to forgive an old rapist for the crime just because he used to ferry the victim in his taxi (and got paid too) and because of old age huh? If your own daughter kena rape by him then you sure talk differently liao!
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alas, most of you will be disappointed. he is rich. he has an army of surgeons and nurses waiting over him. they will give him the best treatment, best medicine money can buy. with all the tonics he is eating every day, it will be tough for him to die ‘early’ …
hopefully we don’t have to wait another 13 years till he is 100.
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I love TR that is why I donate to them.
What’s the big deal human are born to die anyway.
Good begets good, bad begets bad.
Cannot stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
How about putting your name and NRIC number so that you can be rewarded appropriately.
Anonymity is a good thing but then TRUTH hurts really HURTS.
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This cruel and merciless man Lee Kuan Yew had imprisoned Chia Thye Poh for almost 30 years. Can a decent human being do this to his fellow human being??
The list of Singaporeans who suffered under this dictator’ ISA is a long one. Let me name a few of them… Shamsuddin Tung Tao Chang, a chinese muslim and editor of Nanyang Siang Pao), Hussein Jahidin(editor of Berita Harian), Dr. Poh Soo Kai, senior lawyer T.T Rajah, Former solicitor -general Francis Seow. Scores of others(professionals and decent people) have been arrested by this ruthless dictator.
When the LKY govt forced Dr.Poh Soo kai to make a communist confession and he refused because he was not one, his wife Grace Poh was also detained to induce him to make a confession. And Shamsuddin Tung, after spending years in prison under the ISA was released only to have his citizenship stripped and was banished to another country.
This wicked man deserve all the curses that he is receiving today for the atrocities he has committed. This man deserves no mercy from God. May God punish him.
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Mao Zhe Dong was the most powerful man but he still has to die.
He had the best doctors and nurses in China but he still died.
And Mao was made for display in Beijing even up to today. Body already repaired many times and about to turn into horrible ashes. Maybe they should simple dump Mao and replace using LKY for display instead.
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I’m so disgusted by people who stoop so low to curse an old man who contributed greatly to our nation nevertheless. I may not like his policies, I may hate NS to the core, I may think he and his party is restricting our freedom to voice, etc etc. But I won’t curse an old man who fought his way to ensure, as much as he can, a safe and comfortable place to live in.
You guys are simply too ignorant to even care. TR, you’re not helping here. I agree that your questionable credibility has lost my vote for anything written by TR. This article turned out to be just rubbing salt into someone’s wound! How low is that!
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What about this paranormal analogy?
Dr Balaji and LKY were possibly not on good terms but appeared otherwise on surface.
Following the demise of Dr Balaji on Tuesday, his spirit did not even want LYY to turn up at that wake and thus, paranormal activity stepped in and made it inevitable for him to attend through an “inflammed chest”
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Please do Sg one more (last) good:
Declare a Public Holiday when he up-lorry, in the ‘context’ of ‘creating’ Singapore.
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When it is said that he has the best possible surgeons at hand, just like how his ministers have placed so much emphasis on this phrase to cover their asses when a mistake is made – everyone makes mistakes.
We’ll just have to wait for that surgeon to make a mistake and slice the wrong artery. Or perhaps for a really discontented surgeon to sacrifice his everything, for the good of singapore.
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I hope that MM will stay till 100 and beyond. It is sad to see so many people criticise the founding father who had brought Singapore to the First World status where the SGD is the strongest in Asia. I will say a big thank you to him for bringing prosperity to Singapore. The PAP has secured a vote from me and I will persuade my relatives and immediate family members to vote for the ruling party to keep the door shut forever for the opposition parties. I do not want to see the place I live at turn into 1955 Lim Yew Hock’s corrupted government where it was under him that the Christmas Island has been sold off to Australia.
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And guys, don’t fear. As long as there are no immediate facts to point your statements towards the Lee family, as long as there is no concrete evidence against you, USE your NAME please.
Be brave, stand up for Singapore.
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Aiyoh:
Never in the history of world politics has anyone ever declared:
1) I will rise from my grave if I felt Singapore is gonna be destroyed by oppositions (not verbatim but same same gist can liao)
2) I will send in the army if we lost in freak elections
3) too many to quote ……etcetera etcetera etcetera ( spoken like the King & I )
M&M should have had quit while he was ahead and was still beloved and respected. He now not only OVER stayed his welcome but his legacy now will forever be tainted by his desperate dictatorship to hang on. Tool late. Damage is done !
Lim Pei Rise from bed and yawn over army mobilization Swee Swee, has lim teh-O ma hum
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Measured response. Pls don’t try to understand, it’s nothing personal, it’s strictly business.
Singaporedaddy (Internet Liaison Officer of the Brotherhood)
Measured Response mode is currently in force.
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Let’s guess what headline the ST and other world newspaper will put up:
Founding father of Singapore dies…ST
Singapore cries….Carry leg newspaper.
Goodbye Lee Kuan Yew….Today
Thank you Lee Kuan Yew…Naysain Pow
AT last, freedom is here…..TOC
Why take that long to die…shit….Mr. Blue (can’t remember that
colour)
Returned to Hell…..Chinese 7th month magazine edited by jobless but
cannot retired Ah Beng.
The fall of Singapore….New York Timing.
The world is a better world now….Globe and bad news.
My daddy is gone, what to do?…..Pink Dragon News.
More good years…..Wooden Newspaper.
Once every 50 years has began….Flood newspaper.
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I have this strong feeling that he is not going to make it this time.
When he went into hospital 2 days ago, the news on TV didn’t report anything about it on all channels. Maybe the ministers got hold of news and start to sell everything they have now in this 2 days.
I have a feeling guys, start selling your singapore shares and spare flats now, things will be very bad if he really dies anytime now.
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I’m beginning to wonder: is this site a haven for people full of talk only?
Just because TR is a haven for free speech doesn’t mean you can abuse this right. If you wish to express your unhappiness, act affirmatively in your voting booths. Support the opposition. Actively. Don’t just sit behind your screens and curse our founding father to his grave!
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With the kind of wealth at disposal, even the impossible becomes possible. Transplant all organs that can be transplant also possible, even if it’s just to extend for another few years.
As the saying goes, 长江后浪推前浪, it’s time to let go and let the younger generation create the future of theirs.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DHhTjiVlF4
love that famous line by kirk douglas.
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Why no updates? BECAUSE THE MAN IN HOSPITAL HAS SAID SO.
Simple. AND WHO IS THE BOSS OF SPH…ANYWAY.
It can only happen in Singapore where the squirming ST has to kow-tow to the the powers.
But its our fault.
We allowed ST to become the monoply they are.
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Me,
I share the same sentiment. He dedicated his life to Singapore and we will never forget that. I guess in the 1960s people wanted basics like food, water and shelter. Now that we have all the basics covered we will move towards higher needs. I know, no country in the world is perfect. We, particularly are a very young country, unlike countries in Europe and North America. There is no doubt that we have achieved a lot in a short period of time . The main concern is that because of the number of the sheer number of FTs, many have lost their jobs and livelyhood. It is very frustrating and i guess that is why people express it in a very “vocal” manner. The PAPs recent policies have cause more problems than it has solved. Costs have escalated, wages have remained relatively stagnant. Hope we get out of this situation soon and get the real benefit of economic growth instead of just numbers.
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Surely he will be fine. So there is no need any updates.
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to all LKY supporters.
think about this. you reap what you sow.
and cursing LKY to die is definitely much better than actually plotting for him to die. right ? why not ask LKY himself ?
seriously, ask any dictator. ask mugabe, castro, kim or burmese junta
LKY understands this, and he really should !
it’s better to be a coward cum traitor and live !
even if it means being a dog to the Japs in WW2.
So, what farking respect for LKY are you buggers talking about?
Even murderers, robbers, thieves, muggers, gangsters will despise anyone who is a coward cum traitor to his country. LOLOLOL
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“You can live forever by injecting the T-virus. Just call 1800-UMBRELLA-CORPORATION.”
Are you serious ? Not only old fart sucks our money dry, now u want to prolong him by eating our flesh ?
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LKY is one exceptionally intelligent man marred by his greed for
1) self gratifying power!
2) praises to inflate his ego
3) unable to let go attachment to $$
He is incomplete for the lack of humility
We are far from being a first class nation! We are moulded by LKY’s mentality into the curses rained on him
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This old man 87 already, what else do you expect, you think he really immortal??
He and people like CC like to think they are but sadly they are as human as any human in Singapore.
Clearly he has reached an age where he is more of a liability than an asset to hold a position in government. He should step down on his own accord if he survives this illness.
PM has to let go his nappies, dont he realise how ridiculous he is requiring two ex-PMs to hand hold him all these years as the SM and MM. To many it is a sign that our PM is incapable of taking charge.
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What will be MM’s final legacy for red dot?
Is time on his side?
We wait.
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What was the latest major U-turn granted by MM?
Will it be the last?
What other major and costly U-turns will be made after him and when?
Is time on his side to make one more major U-turn?
We wait.
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Lee kuan yew wanted to play “god” with Singaporeans. In the 1970’s he strongly discouraged married Singaporean couples from having more than 2 children. His logic is that Singapore can’t afford a huge population. Thus the slogans STOP at TWO. One IS BETTER. In the early 1980’s he encouraged married woman to go for steralisation and rewarded them with monetary benefits if they do.. All these ill-thought polices led to a dramatic decline of the population. And today, what is the end result of all these manipulations?? He now has to import all these foreign trash to make up the population.
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Before we knock TR for posting the negative comments about Lee, let’s remember that the Straits Times did the same for JBJ when he passed away, even going to the extent of having the Son slam the man. Yes, we should not sink to their level but at the same time you reap what you sow.
I still think it’s bad to wish death on anyone, but let’s not suddenly pretend its TR at fault here.
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Starting from grandfather, N Korea is now passing the baton from father to son…OMG! they all looked alike.
How can the country system improve within one family?
Are they copying from Singapore or we are copying from them?
Bad taste.
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87 = 8+7 = 1+5 = 6 (its already bad)
78 = 7+8 = 1+5 = 6 OMG! its worse.
Better get prepared…serious..very serious.
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I wish LKY recover in time before the next general election. I hope there is no walk over for Tanjong Pagar GRC come the next GE. Let singaporeans vote and decide whether he should retire or continue to be MM.
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“If native Singaporeans are falling behind because “the spurs are not stuck into the hide,” that is their problem.”
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Why PM need to pay him own father for advice?
Is this a normal practice for Singaporean?
That is why Singapore needs more FT.
When MM die, can this PM be PM again, without the father’s help.
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Lee ah long legs will shake like ’soft legs chicken’if his father up the lorry.He already walk like a gu liang now.Can’t wait to see how he will walk after LKY bye bye.
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It is right that all comments be published as is — the favourable as well as the unfavourable. This allows everyone interested (including LKY himself) a more accurate impression of how LKY is perceived by the people.
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This is the first time I am posting on TR mainly because I think the replies on this topic of MM Lee’s condition are quickly getting out of hand and unbecoming.
Whilst we may not agree with his policies, political actions, etc, it should never have to come down to cursing someone to death.
I hope (though i think it is not likely) that TR can exercise some moderation in topics like to avoid it becoming a personal vendetta. In the long run, TR can be a greater force for positive change if it focuses on issues and solutions, rather than a venting and ranting outlet.
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Pls have some sympathy for the old man la!
He must be a very worried man now. So many of his enemies are waiting to ‘WELCOME’ him in the next world, how is he to deal with them ? jialat liao!
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Yes, MML was a hardliner. Yes, he is autocratic. Yes, Singapore is a ‘designed’ city. BUT, without him and his colleagues, Singapore will become a pass-over, a walk over. Name me ONE just ONE country which politics is clean. It is about the survival of the fittest. Dun live in dream land and whine like babies.
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Please don’t curse this old man to die la.The most we curse the longer he can live.He already 练成精 lao! No so easy to die and those who don’t believe in God always think that he himself is a God,so no other God above him,he can do whatever he want!
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No news about that “thing” is good news!!!
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What is wrong with someone expressing his or her OWN OPINION? Is is NOT against any laws to NOT LIKE someone, right?
Just because PAPies worshippers like and worship MM LKY so the rest have to follow? What bloody rubbish is this?
Anyway, dunno related or not but: GENERAL ELECTION UPDATES
According to reliable sources, the General Election which was originally scheduled for late November 2010 have been postponed indefinitely.
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When he goes, will there be a public holiday?
When he goes, will mee siam finally have hum?
When he goes, what to do?
When he goes, what will pay and pay do?
All i know is that when he goes, i’ll give him two thumbs up for all the work he has done and good riddance.
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A PM MUST be a PM on his own merit *PERIOD* There are “too many cooks” in our system now and is “spoiling the broth”. If this cannot happened then we have to replace the PM with a more competant one.
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In a democracy it is a right for anyone to express their opinion. Unless if you have anything to say about Jews,a crime in EU. So the old man is not a Jew isn’t he?
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@respect myfoot
Don’t be mistaken la! All who spoke in support of LKY; who sympathized with him; who lambast others for cursing him or in other word ‘pore’ him are not truly concerned about the old man la!
These pple are actually only damn worried about their stocks, properties, businesses or what not. In case the old man kicks the bucket, many of them will go B-A-N-K-R-r-r-r-U-P-T nei! LOL!!!!!
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Does LKY have a heart for the people? Life goes on. No need to be sentimental. How many of the PAP MPs are really dedicated to Spore. It’s just a job.
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The old frail man can go take a holiday but I would never curse for him to die. We are not lacking of compassion are we?
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mas selamat escaped. lightning struck merlion’d head. orchard/bukit timah floods from 1 in 50 years to more often, never heard of apache helicopter crash land in HDB town and split into 2. dbs system crashed the day immediately after someone said two banks should be sufficient. minor omens like YOG roof canvas collapsed, food poisoning but no answers, organisational incompetency exposed – simple things like printing errors for YOG volunteers, late posting F1 tickets, greed and corruption rot surfacing despite obscenely high pays. it looks like the heavens and earth are trying to tell us something.
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What we read here needs reflection.Are we really what these comments show us to be? We are as ungracious as the LKY we appear to hate, does that make us as detestable as he?
We should rein in our hatred for this man, so as not to be like him.
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@Robert Lim:- October 1, 2010 at 8:51 am
“I hope (though i think it is not likely) that TR can exercise some moderation in topics like to avoid it becoming a personal vendetta”
Hi Robert you carrot head (pls read in cantonese),
There’s a place for sacherine sweet comments, it’s called REACH.
Over @ TR here, it is the pure unadulterated comments & postings that reflects true ground feelings. Pls do not attempt to moderate any of these true gut thoughts.
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@wp:October 1, 2010 at 9:04 am
“Please don’t curse this old man to die la.The most we curse the longer he can live.He already 练成精”
害人精 ？
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This LKY, he curses the old folks, wanted them to work till they are dead and become cleaners, dishwashers, toilet cleaners and show no pity to their tired bones.
Do you think old folks do not get tired, or get a fall due to physical work while he works in comfort?
He denied them welfare aid and etc
Now he is sick, do the folks in Sg think he deserved pity? There are tens of thousands of old folks more pitiful than LKY. And he has lived long enough.
Absolutely deserve no pity for not improving the welfare of old folks while he can.
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Many years ago, the somewhat “One Child Policy” like the one in China was incorporated into Singapore. At that time Singapore too small, not enough HDB to accomodate a large population. But as a forecaster, perhaps he should have noticed that Singapore being advantageous in areas of trade, Singapore would be able to progress to a first… no at least a second world country.
Today, Singaporeans not able to produce as many babies as they could in the past. Singaporeans getting more and more busy to push ourselves harder to make Singapore a better place. And now, some guy say Singaporeans not “horny” enough. Singapore having ageing population so no choice, have to increase influx of foreigners. Now, not enough flats to accomodate the huge influx of foreigners, prices go up, another guy say Singaporeans are “fussy / choosy” And so, the fault forever lies with the Singaporeans? We are just doing what the leaders said we should be doing. We heeded the advice and now we have to do otherwise? So fickle minded…
Anyway, even though LKY did come out some frustrating policies but nevertheless, i sincerely wish he would recover soon for his performance and tactics can be subjected to criticism but not him as a man. He did make Singapore a safer and better place to live in than the 1950s though, credits to that. And i hope Singaporeans will have better days ahead of them.
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Well, to all those who think we are so bad to curse ah Lee Lee!
Ask yourself this question first, if a father pass his throne to his son, what it is called?Dictaor right?Or Emperor???
If he control every mouth piece… so that no one can say bad about him even if he really did something bad.Is this the right moral for a leader???Isit the right way to let his relatives, daughter inlaw, son wife.. then all his frens or whatever lar to err.. i dont want to get sue for nothing but i am sure you guys know what i mean.
It is common sense here.
He tried all means to oppress those who dont agree with him.But what if those who dont agree with him, is a talent and also really care for the citizens???Isis the correct way to rule a country if you only want all the’Mr yes man’ in your cabinet???
How much salary, bonus.. all this Mr Yes men earned all these years???How much work effort did they put in really???
Did they really root out all these problems we are facing now or they just sweep it under the carpet or just cut and paste to solve the problem instead of really want to solve it???
Paid so much but can’t even solve one simple problem like under population???Importing forigners as a solution, we dont need to pay so much a high salary for that kind of solution!!!
Alot more got to say but now it’s time for me to makan!!!
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Long live the King.
Long live the King.
The royal family shall rule the land forever.
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Aiyoh, lobert lim ah! What has others cursing the old man got to do with you? Not curse you. Not curse your lao peh, guan li si mi tai ji?
You want TR to exercise moderation like the ST DB hah? Only listen to the good stuff? C’mon la! If you can’t take it, LEAVE it! The choice is yours not to visit this forum! mai kay kiang like the old man. si mi mah ai guan! Everything also want to chup!
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I wish him well. The current government may gain sympathy votes if something happens to him just before election.
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I think NOT Only Netizens rejoice, many more also rejoice and celebrating, perhaps even welcome LKY to join them – like JBJ, OTC, CV DN, TCW, GKS, LKS, etc etc.
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FALLTHENETIZEN:
I cant imagine there is so many of you cursing our founder. He work so hard for the ppl yet he get all the critics.
he work so hard for the ppl ??? are you kidding me ? he work for himself and himself only !!! he work for his absolute power and wealth … nothing more nothing less . since when we work for the ppl ? he maybe your founding father , NOT MINE !
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Please hor, don’t put your hopes too high lor.
Just a “chest infection” nia, those you get when you get flu issit?
So little a sickness, how to take away the life of a STRONGMAN?
Besides, even if he really passing also no worry lor, he can still wake up from his grave, remember?
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@Deen – “Lee kuan yew wanted to play “god” with Singaporeans. In the 1970’s he strongly discouraged married Singaporean couples from having more than 2 children.”
Too bad this old man just loves his role as God of S’pore. He wants to have control on everything even to the extent of whether couples should F**k more or F**k less.
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To those who admire/praise LKY:
I am not here to chide you nor support what your thinking or beliefs are.
But do spare a thought for those who were tortured by him, harrassed by him, And be very very mindful of all of LKY’s high-handedness, ill treatment of those whom he don’t like,those whom he UNREASONABLY imprisoned for decades, those whom he sued until broke – ALL these he already admitted (as nasty things he DID) – AND all these ARE not published And Are Not Documented by official (he controlled) media.
Don’t forget these ARE FACTS, real events took place. You mean ALL those suffered under him, tortured BY HIM DO NOT MATTER???
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No updates could possibly mean his condition is serious. I am joining the majority of Singaporean waiting for his death.
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To cop:October 1, 2010 at 3:45 am
Excuse me in the 1950s…
The british government has already ensure supplies of portable water from its working [british taxpayers who paid for it and the british government who ensured water supply from malaya (those water treaties were done by the englanders too)] water-works, basic food necessities [from malaya] and homes [basic flats [also british tax payers who paid] and kampongs etc]…
What are you implying…the people of singapore “drinking” from the singapore river, everyone living as a “squatter” [even though the land is theirs but the Land ruling made by the PAP basically "steal" the lands on the cheap]….
I think you have not “read” your history holistically enough…and is too blinded by the material provided by the PAP….ironical enough the material you gain directly/indirectly comes from our forefathers/mothers blood, sweat and tears…and taxpayers monies too [blood money you know that pays for the scholarships, your "civil service" salaries and more]….
You mean the people of singapore are just so many digits and meat things to be “sacificed” and “expended” for the benefit of the “few” [who are basically just parasites and "living" of others real productivity & efforts]…
And don’t forget…all these medical expenses for LKY, LHL, [even that malaysian borned Khaw idiot of a health minister who "mentioned" singaporeans who can't afford can go to JB for their medical (not bad hun...he uses singaporeans tax payers monies to pay for his surgery and medical fees in SINGAPORE...who is a hypocrite and a "cheap skate" here)] or even LKY’s wife [who is in a coma...but hota scheme states "coma" victims after a certain time must be "painlessly" let go...tell them to how many singaporeans families / PRs who had to let go of their comatose loved ones...while those who leeched on taxpayers blood monies continue to "live"]…and so much more…
Only those who are blind, foolish, self serving and all the rest of the parasitical BS…will say otherwise.
Nuts.
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AFter browsing comments here, I notice there are a lot of hypocrites or ball carriers speaking the same language to show us they are condescending bastards.
Some people just refuse to accept reality and go on to blame others.
Hypocrites and ball carriers make sure you be there for LKY everyday in the hospital and help in his wake and funeral.
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LKY still alive? No good news? …
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老不死，老害人，害老人
Have a look at so many of our senior citizens suffering under his regime, reduced to collecting carton boxes and trash cans along the street.
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To Earth:October 1, 2010 at 8:56 am
Sorry…you got it wrong..when the british left singapore…some of them thought LKY and PAP is on their “side”…so behind the “scenes” gave LKY “permission” to rule on their stead from then on…
People forgot…that a person who can betray his principles, character and others can never be trusted…
Look here…LKY was a “translator” for the japanese occupation forces during WWII…some idiotic british chaps thought they can use this to “manage” LKY…but they got it wrong in the end…
And in the 1970s…how about old Deng who visited singapore and met LKY…and after leaving singapore things started to flip again…[Don't forget old Deng's quote "Use a 'rat' to catch a 'rat"]…LKY doesn’t understand that China “remembers” who LKY was…and frankly on their “friendly forgiving” veneer faces they are just using LKY and Singapore as part of their Sun Tzu “tactics” to get ahead of everyone in the end…
In the 1980s, same old trick..use proxies or others to “fight” each other…and stepping in as a “kingmaker” [Good old adolf hitler do the same thing too to his political opponents and potential challengers]…and that is why PAP on the outside looks united but in the inside there are “hidden” fractures…[and the reason why LHL MUST BUY his supporters...problem is how long will these "supporters" stay bought and actually how many "are waiting" to 'take over'...why should i be satisfied with a couple of millions a year when i can "take over" and get all like his daddy...LHL better be wary of those who "professed" 'loyalty' or play 'backstab' politices...these are the initial ones to look out for and "take out" of the equation...else...]
From the 1990s…we see another new “flip”…replacing singaporeans…notice how similar the same old “actions” happen again…this time “replacing” singaporeans..
So how…singapore and its peoples are precious and infinite…to “allow” those who expends/sacrifice others to benefit themselves or the few at the expense of the many still wrong…and everyone knows that…except for those who “lost” their “basic humanity”.
Nuts.
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WOW! So fast reached 110 response.If the sick old man see the comment here sure die on spot! Wahaha…….!!
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Earth: October 1, 2010 at 8:56 am
Sir, please open your eyes and ears. Dr. Koh Tai Ann recently said “We need a truly thinking society’. Please see: http://www3.ntu.edu.sg/CorpComms2/Documents/2010/Sep/ST_100916_A30_Koh%20Tai%20Ann.pdf
No. MM LKY is not only a hardliner and autocrat, he is worse. He is utterly ruthless in his quest for absolute control. He was very much aided by the prevailing circumstances then and a very compliant immigrant community whose spirit had been broken by the 1929 stock exchange crash, the Japanese invasion, the communist agitation, the triads and lastly the communal riots – all in a short span of tiem.
Sir, Singapore was never a laggard or a ‘walkover’ in your words. As a matter of fact, in the 50’s and 60’s Singapore was already a bustling trading hub. Singapore mirrored Hong Kong and had it not been for the fact that the British economy was broke after World War II, the Labour Government of Clement Atlee may not have abandon it. Singapore had full internal self-government from 1959 to 1963 when we joined Malaysia – before the PAP and LKY.
No Sir, I disagree with your statement that politics is never clean. Cleanliness is relative. Politicians can at least be fair and moral. Politics is after all about governing styles and public opinions. Is jailing and bankrupting your political opponents because of differences of opinion ‘clean’? And are protests and expression of differences not allowed?
Singaporeans are definitely not in dreamland and Singaporeans don’t whine. As a matter of fact Singaporeans are too docile and accommodating. And when they complain or gripe or whine, you can bet that they ‘tak boleh tahan’.
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The old fart is alive and well lah.. KNN
He just send a condolence letter to the wife of the late Dr. Balaji today.
http://www.todayonline.com/Singapore/EDC101001-0000098/MM-LEES-CONDOLENCE-LETTER
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Over the years, LKY has imprisoned so many good people and even killed them. He gained ruthlessness during his days in WW2.
He is a founder? He is a shortsighted fellow. He encourage 1 child policy cos he cannot imagine Sg can support millions of population. He read and was mislead but never give credit. Other countries ministers don’t discourage population growth, believing in sciences.
He merged with M’sia becos he wants more power and he believe sg won’t survive even though at that time, Sg is richer than M’sia.
He called Hakka smart than most to lend the idea, that he, a nyona is smart, that the malays are lazy, Sg ppl likes to complaint, we are all ignorant etc
In Japan, he would have been forced to resign.
Who makes himself God over GIC and Temseak? So that he can control all the money?
Those that worship him so much, if you have friends, relatives that was arrested by him, landed seized by him and then resell to you for a flat at a small pittance compensation…see if you can still kiss his foot.
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Robert Lim:
October 1, 2010 at 8:51 am
This is the first time I am posting on TR mainly because I think the replies on this topic of MM Lee’s condition are quickly getting out of hand and unbecoming.
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I have to agree with the other posters. You, Robert Lim, are behaving like a tyrant. Just because you dislike what other have commented, you feel you can come here and demand that others change to suit you. Such autocratic behaviour is not welcome here.
If you want to hear only the good stuff, tune in to Gold 90.5 FM.
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I hope N.Korea Kim has made his will and I hope he does not have tainted assets to leave behind to his descendants.
It is not wise for any old man to leave dirty and unclean assets to descendants. It does more harm to them.
To understand this, I hope more humans and their leaders using super human intellect will first respect the Unseen where all things stem from. Ponder.
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Chest infection.
It is in the Unseen.
It can have all kinds of complications as many Causes like all things stem from the Unseen, from the invisible.
Humans. Please respect the Unseen.
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Better days.
Yes, it is that the best has yet to come.
Mistakes have been made. Who dare ask what were those mistakes?
How many more major and costly U-turns to be made, and when?
Who dare to ask MM?
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KICK THE BUCKET ALREADY OR NOT?
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Disgusting, graceless, undignified, bitter, petulant and unnecessary to JBJ’s sons after he died so what kinda sympathies ar u expecting now?
CONDOLENCE LETTER FROM PRIME MINISTER LEE HSIEN LOONG ON DEMISE OF JB JEYARETNAM
30 September 2008
Mr Kenneth Jeyaretnam
Mr Philip Jeyaretnam
Dear Kenneth and Philip Jeyaretnam
I was sad to learn that your father, Mr Joshua Benjamin Jeyaretnam, has passed away. Mr JB Jeyaretnam was a Member of Parliament for Anson constituency from 1981 till 1986, and a Non-Constituency Member of Parliament from 1997 till 2001. He used to engage in heated debates in the House. Perhaps it was because he and the PAP never saw eye to eye on any major political issue and he sought by all means to demolish the PAP and our system of government. Unfortunately, this helped neither to build up a constructive opposition nor our Parliamentary tradition. Nevertheless, one had to respect Mr JB Jeyaretnam’s dogged tenacity to be active in politics at his age.
However, our differences were not personal. In 1993, one of you (Kenneth) wrote to Mr Goh Chok Tong, who was then Prime Minister, to say that you found employers in Singapore reluctant to offer you a job, and your only explanation was that the employers felt the authorities would not welcome your employment because of your name. Mr Goh replied with a letter which could be shown to prospective employers, to say that the government did not hold anything against you, and that employers should evaluate you fairly on your own merits, like any other candidate, because Singapore needed every talented person that it could find. Mr Goh had previously made the same point to your brother Philip, whom he had invited to lunch. I am therefore happy that both of you have established yourselves in Singapore.
Please accept my deepest condolences.
Yours sincerely
Lee Hsien Loong
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If LKY is so great and has created Singapore, PAP is in fact saying that we are all leechers of LKY’s efforts, that nothing built in Singapore is attributable to us.
LKY sure knows how to take credit.
Why not go further and make the old man ETERNAL LEADER like they do in North Korea?
Singapore is North Korea 2.
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He better not die so fast !!! Everybody looking forward this general election.
Hang on, you bloody swine !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Give him some respect. Everyone has a good and bad side.
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MM LEE…u can run..but u can’t hide. U tis cunning dictator of Singapore.
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Although I agree that we should not curse anyone and that some of the comments here have gone overboard, I can’t help thinking that people in politics should be prepared to put their lives / reputation on the line. People in politics have even been known to be assassinated by their political enemies. Opposition members have been pushed into seeking asylum in other countries or made bankrupt. Our Ministers are adequately compensated with money and power. Under the circumstances, it is quite difficult to appreciate that they enter politics solely out of a selfless urge to serve their citizens. If they can’t take the heat, they should get out of the kitchen.
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Myth 1: LKY brought sg from 3rd world to first.
Myth 2: We should be grateful to LKY and not curse him.
Myth 3: His ruling methods were ‘tough’ but that’s no reason to curse him.
Truth 1: Sg has always been a thriving city, modern singapore is not LKY or the PAP’s doing alone.
Truth 2: There is no such thing as ‘gratitude’ for a government. Their job is to serve us, they should be grateful to us, and leave when we want them to leave.
Truth 3: LKY has ruined many lives with his policies and even direct abuses to human rights. It’s not too far for many sporeans to curse him for this.
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Why u all curse him? He bring Singapore so high, if not for him we will be living in a dump. over the last 70 years our GDP per capita rise fromm less than $1000, to almost $40,000 compared to indonesia or philipines who earn less than we do and have not increase so much. You all argue that he can get special A ward? Of course he is a founding father, famous people need privacy. He’s not working for the money already so old.. He working to improve Singapore’s image in the world. All you all complain he steal your all money? Maybe cause you all too stupid to realise what he has done for us, and stupid people don’t usually earn much. Only the ignorant curse him, cause they’re too stupid or poor to reap the benefits he’s brought to the nation. You reap what you sow, although some policies are questionable and can be criticised, they will no change even if he goes, there is still the rest of the party. He does not deserve these personal attacks, stop being so ungrateful
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LKY should have retired from public office in 1990 and should have worked in background as Advisor. But looks like he doesn’t know when to call it a day. He cuts sorry figure these days. I am sure he doesnt know that and it seems no one in PAP leadership has guts / balls to tell him. But I thought ex-Ministers like Richard Hu, Tony Ton or Dhanabalan should be able to tell him.
One must leave when being asked “Why” rather than “Why Not”.
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LKY will be out of hospital shortly and continue visiting other countries.
LONG LIVE THE GREAT LEADER!!
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Singapore and Singaporeans are stupid.They should be govern by Malaysian govt.
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this is ridiculous. do you guys even know what you’re saying? no matter what it’s a life that we’re talking about.
besides, if it weren’t for MM Lee, none of you would be sitting at your computer, typing out pathetic comments in the comfort of your own house. none of you
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@Kumar
No we don’t need M’sia brand of politics. While we are not perfect here, I shudder to think when Singapore’s brand of politics will emulate M’sia. Your system of bumi rights has plundered your land beyond recognition.
While LKY’s policies of late has made life difficult for Singaporeans, I can’t deny that he has done some good for the country, as did Sir Stamford Raffles, JB Jeyaratnam, Devan Nair and others. But it is definitely time for him to step down and for the Lee family to start treating Singapore like a real country rather than their own company.
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He should live on and see the downfall of his party and ‘dogs’ in the coming GE. The country’s politics is a horror show and its about time that we all vote wisely.
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Sorry…
I don’t stoop to the level of LKY and his “buddies” who believes others should always be doing the “dying” and “sacrificing” for “them”…and on the many “occasions” ’state’ and quote how they see other real people…
Look no further at LHL in the public who states he has to “fixed” people with alternative views and “buy” ’supporters’ to his side…
So how low can one go…
All have eyes to see…but whether that “gray” matter in their heads are really “working” and thinking “independently” enough with all the factual facts on-hand or seen is “another” thing all together…
I don’t wish the old man to die this way…or “wish” him to die…that is going to “his” and his “buddies” level.
I wish all the best…and hope he retires to a quiet life and spend more time with his comatose wife. By continuing to stay in “power”…it just shows the character and how low a human being can go…to benefit the few at the expense nay real sacrifices of the many past, present and future…
Flies lah all flies. All thanks to Lim Swee Suay the deaf and self serving frog as based on his frog analogy fairy tale in parliament for making me wake up more completely.
Haiz.
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To singaporean got no dignity:October 1, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Are you smoking some kind of pot??
In the 1950s…Singapore under the british governance has the highest GDP in this region…
A government is supposed to work for the people and the country it serves…Singapore…more like George Orwells book “Animal Farm”…
It is all “blood” money you know..
Please get your facts right.
Nuts.
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@ singaporean got no dignity:
October 1, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Care to join me in mental masturbating?
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To Kumar:October 1, 2010 at 2:25 pm
…so Kumar…by default…you also mean LKY, LHL and all the other PAP Government folks, civil service, armed forces, SPF, Civil service etc etc…are also STUPID too…since they are also singaporeans.
You are a very “intelligent” person for stating so.
No wonder Malaysia “don’t” want you.
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he gave me an ‘O’ level english education.
i am very grateful to him.
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Kid in car “Are we there yet?”
Angry and pissed Singaporean ” Is he dead yet?”
Yan Luo Wang at the 18th level ” Issit time yet?”
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If old fart up the lorry, the gahment is gonna issue 2 dollar notes with his fxxxing face on it!!YUCK!Ptui!!
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He was quite a lucky chap.
TWICE, for heart attacks, he was ALMOST going to bid the world farewell.
We do not think a man can be lucky all the time.
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When will Lee Kuan Yew die huh?
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DIE! DIE! DIE!
DIE DICTATOR! DIE!!
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Dearest MM Lee.. I love u.. Pls be well n hv a speedy recovery..many many s’poreans lives you!! U r in my heart, I will pray for u! All those idiots that r cursing him will comes to no good ends..
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Do you people even know what Lee Kuan Yew has done for our country? And now you insult him anonymously when he’s sick. If you have a problem with him, go out there and stay it and not hide here like cowards.
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To Terence:October 1, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Yeah right on…it is ok for LKY to put down people and “fixed people and by “making” people to be “what” he wants them to be rather then be all that they can be…
Think and ask yourself.
Are you ruling yourself to be all that you can be or you rather prefer to always be “ruled” or “fixed” to be what some nobodies [living on welfare...using other peoples blood money] wants you to be…
Nuts.
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When can we have another extra hoilday? Wait many year already!
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Die faster, traitor of Singapore.
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Wonder are our top hunchos already doing scenario planning for day he dies.
Will Goh be pushed up to MM? Current SM2 become SM1, and WKS become SM (Selamat Minister)? Or will they all just take their retirement package and call it a day?
How are the people’s heroes in WP, SDA, SDA, RP etc going to exploit the situation?
It’s painful to see an old man suffering. Hope it doesn’t last too long and he reunites with his wife soon.
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Staying 2 nights in hospital is not a good sign. Very serious.
Keep watch over TV and radio….switch them “ON” for indication.
Any further signs should come from the army and police force.
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@ Terence : “Dearest MM Lee.. I love u.. Pls be well n hv a speedy recovery..many many s’poreans lives you!! U r in my heart, I will pray for u! All those idiots that r cursing him will comes to no good ends..”
Aye? Kwa Geok Choo ok liao meh? Since when she call herself Terence, huh?
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LKY talked of isolation as being his worse fear…yet has he ever thought of the many innocent people he put into isolation in detention?
A wise man will contemplates, regrets and try to reform himself. Yet he is greedily holding onto his worldly possessions hoping to bring along.
Sad.
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Is he not the founding father
Is it not sinful to wish your father bad things
At his age he still put in a lot of efforts to promote Singapore is not
this a unselfish thing to do
His wife is sick and he still very hardworking where in the world can you
find such great man
Arenot you all who curse him doing him a great wrong. Don’t hv to worry you
will not meet him. he go heaven you go he’ll!
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PLP quipped in Chinese: “该看的都看了！这只老狐仙已经差不多游完整个地球了，是时候到别的星球了!”
我看他什麽球都要去，就是沒本事去。
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Death To Lee Kuan Yew!, Death To PAP! God is Great!
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Heroes die fighting. Cowards die quietly.
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Is he dead yet? When is the celebration ? I am so excited. It is better than Singapore winning the World Cup. Oh, when is Independence day? When? When? Wow!!So excited.
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Let’s get down on our knees and offer our prayers,
Most glorious Prince of the Heavenly Armies, Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in our battle against principalities and powers, against the rulers of this world of darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places.
Come to the assistance of men whom God has created to their image and likeness and whom Jesus has redeemed at a great price from the tyranny of the devil. Holy Church venerates thee as her guardian and protector; to thee, the Lord has entrusted the souls of the redeemed to be led into heaven.
Pray therefore that the God of Peace allows men of faith to expel Satan, that he may no longer retain men captive and do injury to the Church. Offer our prayers to the Most High, that without delay they may draw His mercy down upon us; take hold of the dragon, the old serpent, which is the devil and Satan, bind him and cast him into the bottomless pit so that he may no longer seduce the nations.
Amen.
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Which way will the stock market react?
If there is no time to react like all happening on a weekday, not weekend, the reaction will be fast and furious the next morning, isn’t it?
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Go down on the knees to pray.
Do humans and their leaders know that all prayers by man are directed at the Unseen?
When will humans wake up and respect the Unseen?
Who knows how to pray towards the Unseen and hit the intended target with their prayers? Ponder.
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As has been mentioned before by many readers of TR, GOD is not blind.
He will get what he deserve.
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THE one AT FAULT IS LHL THAT IDIOT WHO BRING IN FT .papies shall fall
STOP CURSING AT LKY HE DID HIS BEST
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Are Singaporeans prepared and ready?
When will all the fence sitters join in the GE when the coast is clear to tikam for the $13500 per month Parliament listening fees?
Not peanut so some will try their luck to join in the GE once the coast is clear, isn’t it?
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I believe that MM Lee has built a Singapore that can go on without him. If this comes true, it will be the greatest success of him.
His health is a matter to be dealt with by God.
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I believe Singapore CAN go one without LKY. After all, didn’t he himself said he is NOT DOING MUCH except forecasting? And yet Singapore is ok. Haha!
May he die soon to so that he can earn a better life in the heareafter. If he’s really a good person, he need not fear death. He will get his reward. Then again, maybe he’s not actually a good person that’s why he fears death…because he’ll be getting his reward soon.
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I had learnt from the mainstream media of his widely publicized ‘confessions’ of being a victim during WWII when the Japanese almost got him up the lorry.
But lately, I’ve been reading from forum postings that he was in fact collaborating with the Japanese invaders! If that was true, then the possibly dark truth might not be just working as a translator but turning in loyal Singaporean compatriots to the Japanese secret police as well.
If all this were really true, all these years of admiration for him in my school-life would really have been misplaced because it would have been rather silly of me to mistake a traitor for a hero!
I hope MM Lee will come out while he is still alive to clarify all these extremely damning rumors all over the Internet about his WW2 past. If he was innocent, MM Lee should robustly challenge these false accusations – I want to still remember him as a hero forever.
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Stamford Raffles:
Fuck You Harry Lee! You are a cheat and a liar!
I AM the founder and father of Singapore.
You were a member of the Kempeitei and scuked Japanese dicks.
You sold everyone’s mother away in Singapore.
You are a traitor and dirty little politician.
You fabricated all sorts of lies to cheat the world believe you built Singapore?
Come here! I will kick your nuts and I will kick shit out of you!
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I wish the Old Fart’s cancer boy prince will die first. This way the Old Fart will suffer the pain of burying his own son before dying. Please Old Fart, don’t die silently in your sleep. Please die a long painful and suffering death!
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his supporters are still ominipresent
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Get well Mr Lee. Thank you for what you have done for Singapore. At 87, you need a well deserve rest.Its too tiring for your age. Singapore has to go on without you someday.
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What makes people think that LKY will die?
He will never die. He will live forever.
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So many ALIEN believer here.
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Frankly, I am not at all surprised. Whatever he is getting now he brought it all upon himself. For more than 50 years he has done everything rotten, dirty, indecent, inhuman, cruel, greedy, vengeful and nasty to all his political foes without so much as a tinge of conscience. I am quite astounded that he could live with himself all this while with those evil deeds hanging on his head. Most of us with a tiny fraction of what he has would have ended up in the funny farm.
If he has any brains at all, and since he is rich beyond our imagination to not need to work for his keep for many generations, he should spend the rest of the time available to him in reflection and doing what he needs to do to make up for all his immoral and inhuman deeds both as a man and as a politician.
This way at least when his time comes less people will be cursing him and more will be sympathetic for “what does it profit a man who gains the whole world but loses his own soul?”
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NilaUtama:
October 2, 2010 at 12:40 am
What makes people think that LKY will die?
He will never die. He will live forever.
True, he will rule Singapore for another term as ‘Retired Minister’ with same pay package and benefits.
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Singapore will go on with or without him. He just carried on the policies of the British past. He did not build anything. Singapore is bigger than LKY and PAP. LKY is self-serving. We are all human beings and we do not depend on one man or party. Life still goes on.
The polical system is based on the British system of the past and all LKY did was tweak it for his personal benefit.
A nation cheated
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@#%%^^lky, die lah, @!!!@#%^^^&&%%%%##@die, die, die, got many jus waiting 4 u!!!!
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Those who said that cursing LKY ia wrong should look at the mirror. LKY and his PAP have been cursing all the time. You have to work until you die. You all cam die in Johor. If you cannot afford it’s better to die at home. Floods? Live with it ! Lesser mortal. Lazy. Abortion andandatory death sentence. LKY is a murderer. Aa LKY have said je has absolute power so abortion and mandatory death ia decided by him and rubber stamped in parliament. Murderer.
Those who detest all the cursing and votes for LKY is either a crony, minion etc are hypocrites. for those who did not benefit but still support the system is a utter fool. LKY have cursed all Songaporeans to die thru his policies. Ita self explanatory, go strutinized all policies thru years.
And yes LKY also said Singaporeans are fools
A nation truly cheated
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Hello all Singaporean, PR, FT ….., what ever that is written here are individual view of point. Not happy, don’t write or visit this TR site. This is what we call “DEMOCRACY” and freedom of speech.
TR is not inciting, provoking or deflaming others. If not the SPF would have ‘banned’ or action taken against them.
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Malaysia’s Civic Course for Muslims
I hope those Dayak (natives of East Malaysia) who attended this BTN course can share their experience and learning. If such are the teachings of BTN that Chinese are Jews and Christians are associated with Head and Sholder Shampoo for its doctorine of “Holy Trinity” then DPM have a lot to explained to Malaysian instead of choosing to deny BTN racialist and extremist Ketuanan Melayu agenda.
Why are we spending so much money for such sick ideas of unity through hatred. Malaysian need the money to overcome hardcore poverty and therefore do not need such extreme negativity and may provoke the peace and stability of the country. I hope BN UMNO led supporters realize the “evil scheme”of certain UMNO Malay leaders.
For Dayak we have to stand up and be counted and stop being cowed into the corner and whine about our problem. Do something positive with one selfand also to walk beyond one self to provide service to the community and make our community better.
Kalau bukan kiat – siapa?
Kalau bukan sekarang – bila?
If BTN is just the tip of an ice-berg of UMNO racialist Ketuanan Melayu agenda, I fear for the future of Malaysia under BN led BN.
I am one of the privileged few to have attended a local public university and learned the meaning of hate, thanks to the ever popular Biro Tata Negara.
All undergraduates were forced to attend this programme or else they would not be eligible for graduation.
Intellectual Speakers?
The BTN under the Prime Minister’s Department brought in “intellectual” speakers who were supposed to enlighten the students about the meaning of being a Malaysian but instead it felt more like a communist propaganda camp brainwashing those attending about the importance of “Ketuanan Melayu”.
A Whole Day Program
The camp would usually take place during the weekends. Students would have to register early in the morning and the programme would last the whole day.
The organisers were always on their guard, asking participants to show their student identification cards each time they entered the hall, fearing the presence of outsiders.
In the hall, students were asked to turn off their mobile phones.
Do not raise any question
During the lectures, questions were planted among the audience and the students were advised not ask raise any questions.
One speaker began with the history of Malaysia and how much the country had gone through, always emphasising the May 13 riots.
Malay must be united against outside threat – eg the Malaysian Chinese
He stressed the point of how much the Malays had sacrificed and how the community should be united especially from outside threat — the Chinese community.
BTN says – Chinese are Jews of Asia
He said that the Chinese community were “the Jews of Asia” and were just itching to take over when Malays were disunited and broken.
The speaker also revealed a greater Chinese conspiracy where the Chinese Malaysians were working together with Singapore to topple the Malay government.
“Do you want to become like the Malays in Singapore?” he asked.
Muslim are Malay
He also went so far as to criticise Malay girls for dating boys from other races.
He added that they should not be cheap and embarrass their families.
Once, a student told the speaker that as Muslims, we should also respect other races who are also Muslims.
“All Muslims are Malays so it does not matter if they are Chinese or Indians. If they are Muslims then they are Malays,” the speaker replied.
Selangor PKR Government is doing the right thing
This is why I was relieved when I learned that the Selangor government had moved to ban its civil servants, employees of state subsidiaries and students at state-owned education institutions from attending any BTN courses with immediate effect.
However I believe racism in varsities does not end at BTN because classrooms have also become victims of ignorant scholars.
My friend was verbally abused during his sociology class when he did not agree with the points made by his lecturer.
“You must be DKK,” the lecturer told him.
Darah Keturunan Keling (DKK)
“What is DKK?” he asked.
“You must be darah keturunan keling (descendents of Indians),” the lecturer said, pointing to his dark skin.
My Saudi friend was also shocked by the comments made by his lecturer in his Islamic civilisation class.
Orang Alsi are Palestinians and Chinese is Isreal
“We should save our Orang Asli from the Chinese people. They are like the Palestinians and the Chinese are Israel. We must fight the Jews,” the lecturer told his students.
Failed for quoting Western Scholar
The lecturer even failed one of his students in his oral exam when he quoted a Western scholar in his presentation.
“You should be ashamed of yourselves. You are a Muslim and should only use Islamic scholars,” he scolded the student.
Christians are like Head and Shoulder’s 3 in 1 shampoo – for Holy Trinity
I was personally saddened when my Islamic law lecturer compared Christianity to Head & Shoulder’s 3 in 1 shampoo in referring to the religion’s Holy Trinity.
Conclusion
I feel that racism has been institutionalised in our country and that BTN is only the tip of the iceberg.
Deputy Prime Minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin defended BTN yesterday and claimed that it was not racist but is line with the 1 Malaysia concept.
I have to humbly disagree and would like to suggest maybe the ministers should bring their overseas children home and let them have a taste of what BTN is.
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Singapore or Temasek was here since 1819 and during that time the Lees are no here, Singapore is stil here and will still be here when they are all gone. They cannot bring Singapore with them when they die. So don’t be afraid. Someone more befitting will Stand Up for Singapore.
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i wish him well from the bottom of my heart
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I just read with disgust over what you guys can say. Who are you guys to know the so-called dirty lines Mr Lee had done?
If there’s no him, fat hope Singapore would have succeeded. You guys are living a comfortable life because of him, his party. Singapore is prospering, because of PAP.
Sad to see how people are cursing him to die soon.
Karma begets karma.
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I wish him well from the bottom of my balls.
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Mine too.
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Halo? What are you all cheated for?
..the progress, technologies, green and peace of the nation?
All living in toad’s well arh? Open your eyes to other countries then make comparisons!
Shame on superficial comments from netizens who have no sense of appreciation. These ppl should live in 3rd world country, or maybe 4th.
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Wow reading this article and all the comments made thus far have shown me how mean people really are. TR u have not failed to truly disgust me this time round. Comments such as those quoted in the article only reflect the upbringing, or lackthereof, of the author and the people who made such comments. Well done singaporeans.
Mod’s reply:
TR is an open forum. Everybody is entitled to their own opinions. We have no right to dictate what our readers believe or say. You are always free to rebut them if you disagree.
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@sarsshark
If i was in power, I would have banned this site. Not because I am against “individual view of point (what the hell is that anyway?! I have never seen such a phrase in my whole life)” or “what (YOU) we call DEMOCRACY” or “freedom of speech”. And certainly not because TR is “inciting, provoking or deflaming others”.
But because the articles and the comments simply BOAST of the stupidity and ignorance of my people.
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Well…death comes to all men…. all are sinners… no need to be holy about it…
LKY did much good for Singapore despite what his critics may insist.
In fact, his critics prove that he did much benefit for them, for by venting their rage as they have done on this forum, they SHOW that they are actually ALIVE to CRITICISE on cyberspace !!!!!!
Btw check out North Korea…. nobody says anything bad about the DEAR leader …. and cyberspace ….what cyberspace… they don’t even have anything to eat…. a lot more folks in third world countries cannot even buy the computer to comment on…. so you hear nothing ….except what the Western presses chooses to publish if the comments happen to be made in English.
And oh yah …..DAMN OBAMA….DAMN the European Union….DAMN those leaders in charge of this planet…. it’s horribly polluted…. we’re gonna drown when the sea waters rise !!! WMD in Iraq indeed !!! Rich heartless monsters in wall street !!!!
cheats and liars !!!!
Might be better if Hitler won WW2…. you don’t hear/read much complaints…. HEIL hitler !!!!
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For those who curse LKY:
After scrolling through all the comments posted, a great sense of disappointment, pain & disbelief suddenly creeped up my spine. Why LKY is so much being hated by you people here? Have you all gotten the correct info before passing such cruel comments or all of you have been poisoned? No wonder our government is worry for the young generation.
Even if in the past, some of his policies were harsh and tough, which it has to be to manage the whole country, but do remember that his team and himself had sacrificed many golden years of their life building Singapore up to a modern city from poverty / muddy ground. Have all of you ever wonder what Singapore will become today if still under Malaysia’s ruling? Probably just 1 of small states in Malaysia.
Before penning down cruel & sarcastic remarks on LKY, do some soul searching & reflection on yourself. Where’s your heart? Being kept in your storeroom? Or there isn’t a heart to begin with. How would you feel if someone curses your father / grandfather like the way you curse LKY?
If you are feeling totally unsatisfied / pissed off with how Singapore is being managed in all ways and hated to see LKY ‘messing’ around so much, you can always have a choice to get out of here, move somewhere you deemed to be better. If you still stay here and complaining so much, there goes to show that you have no guts / any ability to do so and no where to go.
For those who curses, will be cursed in return. This is totally fair and square.
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