Can PAP Malay MPs please explain what progress they have made in Malay youths’ education?
February 10th, 2011 | 
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In a recent seminar organized to enhance engagement with youths, where several hundred participants comprising representatives from voluntary welfare organizations attended, Dr Yaacob Ibrahim, Minister-in-charge of Muslim Affairs, said that “more preventive and upstream measures are needed to help Malay youths at risk of dropping out of school prematurely or those facing difficulties in school or at home.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1109867/1/.html
My question is, in this current term in office since 2006, what have the Malay MPs done to improve the situation of at risk Malay youths? As we can all see they have slacked and have delivered hardly any decent needed progress on this issue. In fact, one cannot recollect of any major measure that they had implemented. Minister Yaacob still insist on claiming that “progress has been made by Malay youths in education” while the gaps between Malay youths and other ethnic groups remain alarmingly wide. In fact there is also no indication of any cosmetic improvement in the educational outcomes of Malay youths.
What is shocking is that since 2006, a total of around $50 million have been spent on the PAP Malay MPs salaries. But what has the Malay community got in return in the key issue of Malay youths education?
Firstly the PAP Malay MPs should stop pushing the responsibility to the community to resolve the education issues. Secondly the PAP Education minister and top PAP leaders need to stop pushing the responsibility to the PAP Malay MPs to take charge of Malay community issues, since they have failed at it and since they themselves are pushing that responsibility to the community.
Even at the seminar, Minister Dr.Yaacob Ibrahim is only making calls for more measures. Even though the timing is clearly before the election, he obviously has not even been shrewd to put anything on the table for the Malay community. Nevertheless coming up with measures at this moment after wasting 5 years in parliament simply is too late and too little.
Contrary to Singaporeans’ claims that only PAP MPs can do better a job in government, this does not seem to support such wild claims. In fact if Singaporeans are right that there are no politicians other than those in PAP who can do a better job, then going by the efficiency and effectiveness of these Malay MPs clearly indicate Singapore is in serious trouble.
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Zahara Abdullah
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Malay MPs are pukimas who do fuck all to collect millions but never help the Malay community
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Zahara,
Yaacob and Halimah are now practicing to be less strict so no time for you. they are only making calls, don’t wait for them.
We singaporeans can help ourselves with our vote. Use it wisely.
We, the citizens of Singapore,
pledge ourselves as one united people,
regardless of race, language or religion,
to build a democratic society
based on justice and equality
so as to achieve happiness, prosperity and
progress for our nation without PAP.
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the same question goes to the indian m.p.???
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Time to vote in as many opposition parties members as possible. Surely they can’t do even worse that this Yakult, right?
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Dear Zahara,
As much as I am unhappy with the Malays joining the oppressive PAP regime and some of these people I know from varsity days…I think that they do not have a chance trying to do anything much to raise the concerns you have and to work a concrete programme of action for whatever may be the social problems faced by the Malays. This is because there is no formal policy in the PAP on issue of minority communities. They stay in PAP cos its a good paying job and anyway were they voted to represent Malay issues? They represent all Singaporeans they will say to your face.
Reading internet news from afar, I see that the younger Singapore Malays themselves think that they dont need any help because they believed that the PAP meritocracy plan has worked for them and there is no discrimination at all. I read the AMP karyawan occasionally and other stuff. And I guess if the Malays are not doing well, its their own bloody fault for being lazy? Or why cant the Malays get organised on their own to fix their problems? In which case I dont know where you are coming from.
Perhaps the opposition has to work a real minority report. And minorities need not be limited to ethnic groups. The elderly is a significant minority as are single mothers. And perhaps all young Singaporeans who are not doing well in school?
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Propaganda to undermine the malays’ capabilities….
who is this zahara abdullah?
are you a bogeywoman??
do you live at the other side of the moon….
look around…
the only PEOPLE in Singapore who are making names for THEMSELVES in the INTERNATIONAL scene are the malays….
not in a small country like Singapore….. the market is too small..
of course… the media will not tell you that as .. yes you guess it
they are malays….
Fandi Ahmad….
Mardan Mamat…
Ashley Isham…
Iskandar Jalil…
Najip Ali….
Anita Sarawak….
Sakasi Said….
Sheik Alauddin…
Ramli Sarip….
M.Nasir……
the three malays who WON singapore Idol…
etc..etc…etc…
moral of the story
in life… theres more ways to success and fame other than “paper” qualification and the “fear” of “will i get retrenched tomorrow”
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My personal view is that the less competent or less productivity from the malay MP is better cause that will be the reason that Malay MP is not ready to be President of Prime Minister. Small community Malay PM cannot handle how to handle mutliracial community… after the hard truth book out and alot of negative comment from malay and muslim. this malay MP are all out to do the damage and control. haha. everyday you can see the are on an this event that event. I always ask myself does only malay have this social problem? what about other race?
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paulthesotong@
argee with you, But you forget to talk about the history.
The National Pledge was written by Sinnathamby Rajaratnam in 1966 shortly after Singapore’s independence. Rajaratnam revealed that the dream was to build “a Singapore we are proud of”. He believed that language, race and religion were divisive factors, but the Pledge emphasises that these differences can be overcome if Singaporeans cared enough about their country. The draft text was handed to the then Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew, who polished the text before submitting it to the Cabinet.
the original pleagde
Kami, warganegara Singapura,
sebagai rakyat yang bersatu padu,
tidak kira apa bangsa, bahasa, atau agama,
berikrar untuk membina suatu masyarakat yang berdemokratik,
berdasarkan kepada keadilan dan persamaan
untuk mencapai kebahagiaan,
kemakmuran dan kemajuan bagi negara kami
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I don’t admit to know the merits of Malay-style children upbringing, but I’m sure not all mothers–Malay or not–need to be tiger mums. The fundamental problem still lies with the elitist, streaming-oriented grade-driven education system. With the China Chinese students overtaking our local standards, there’s simply “no fight” to talk about anymore. Our children must be exposed to a personal belief that they can be excellent in their own ways and with their own talents.
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No Malay MP has the guts to confront old fart and sort out Malay issues. They all cari makan including all the Malay journalists, most famous of whom is the no bola, bola licking, sickening wak kentot in BH. Mention his name and all Malays vomit straightaway. He thought people admire him. Most of them also serve as informers. They get allowance mah, a few dollars can buy them. No pay how to bring family for ego oversea trips every year mah and come back to show photos to relatives. Style mahu jual bangsa tak pa. There will be a special place for them in the next dimension. Old fart knows this and he is grinning from to ear to ear for fifty years. Now old fart still makes fun of us.
Nobody dares to demand for at least a
scholarship quota for better Malay students. This will uplift the spirit and dignity of the community in the long run. This is positive social engineering. Based on meritrocracy so far how many Malays and Indians qualify for scholarships? Tell us?
Billions are lost indulging in the crook-filled American financial casinos/circus by our easily conned caretakers. No loose change to send some minority sons and daughters to prestigious universities all these years kah? Some sadists are holding back and not extending a helping hand to minorities.
Malay MPs, forget it. To the community they are
non- existent. Ask around.
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What PAP MP’s have done is bugger all except tow the line of the party. They have been tolk to shut up.
Now that we all know what MM thinks of the Malays, one wonders what these MP’s are going to do.
After all, they are just useless.
And nobody’s like most of the MP’s who sit in Parliament just nodding off in their cushy seats.
WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO DO> VOTE THEM OFF.
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Fandi Ahmad…. marriage ang mo. is he Rich? where is here now?
Mardan Mamat… Small time winner? what is he doing now? Gold Company?
Ashley Isham… business in oversea. local? how his business?
Iskandar Jalil… He has a very long history,But no spot light on him.
Najip Ali…. Normal TV star, have to work hard to earn living. compare to TV 5 and TV 8 actor.
Anita Sarawak…. Marriage ang mo, run oversea.
Sakasi Said…. well know batik maker but try hard to earn a living.
Sheik Alauddin… What !!! gold medal only? Joycelyn Yeo better.
Ramli Sarip…. ASk him pls how hard to survive.
M.Nasir…… No need to talk. Cannot survive here.
the three malays who WON singapore Idol… Win due to malay voter. hope need year Singapore Idol come out new law I phone number only allow to send one SMS than we see.
name mention above maybe only 2 are active in singapore the rest either run to other country or lay low due to expire already. don’t be so proud cause what i believe behind most of this success people there is a Non Malay. We can’t denind it
If you have 1 good sportman they have 5. if you earn 2k per month they earn 20k per month. See the report today malaysia a girl by the name UMMI,she is a nobody yet so daring to look down on malay singapore, Malay MP your no what to do arrrr. she is not your pay master, whack the fellow.
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@ are you the malay spokesperson.
Wow so many malays ahh… I am afraid these names you have mentioned will lend credence to the racial stereotyping of Malays as “only good for sports and entertainers”.
Zahara has a point that perhaps Malays should have wider options and I am afraid not all of us Malays have such natural talent as Anita or M Nasir or even Chef Wan (you missed that huh?).
At some point in the African American history — that’s what blacks are apparently good for-sports and entertainers.. Now they have Barak Obama and the great Ms Oprah Winfrey among the leadership of the community.
Its equal treatment, equal opportunities, equal outcomes. How many if us have that?
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The Malays should not bother Yaacob too much.
He still having a hard time fixing the flood problem, let alone to solve your problem.
He loves this entire flood because his cronies companies can get it fixed.
And at the same time his bank account also gets fixed.
But unfortunately the flood still prevails.
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Actually hor the fact of the matter is..
Compared to chinese/indian/peranakan/eurasian/chindian singaporeans, the malays have actually done very well!
We should feel happy for their achievements!
All the above races I’ve stated are all immigrants or descendants of them at one point either from malaysia, europe, china or india.
They all came to singapore with the immigrant mentality.
Naturally they’ll know how they want to get there and work hard to have a slice of the singapore dream.
The malays being the native singaporeans might have lagged behind, but anyone of you who knows malay colleagues will tell you that now their mindset is nearly like us now.
A malay supervisor colleague was telling me how his kids was preparing to go work and probably get a citizenship in australia and how they are investing in houses in malaysia and indonesia.
Don’t you all feel happy for them? They have adopted our mindsets and now slowly but surely they are getting more financially well off!
It has nothing to do with race but the culture!
They might face issues compared to their brethren in malaysia/indonesia, they are doing very well!
WHY DOES LKY KEEP CONDEMNING AND DEMONIZING THEM INSTEAD OF CELEBRATING THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS? SO THAT THE REST OF YOU WILL BE BRAINWASHED TO SEE THEM AS A PROBLEM!
THE BLAME LIES WITH LKY+FT+PAP CRONIES+MALAYSIAN CHINESE+BRAINWASHED RACIST CHINESE SINGAPOREANS!
IN LKY’S SICK SADISTIC MIND, IT DOESN’T MATTER HOW MUCH PROGRESS THEY MADE! HE JUST WANTS THEM TO END UP LIKE AFRICAN AMERICANS OR AUSTRALIAN ABORIGINES!
Don’t let the election of Barack Obama fool you! African americans in the states are losing all their jobs left right & centre to hispanic and asian immigrants! At least the native americans fought hard and died fighting! But many african americans don’t know that their country wanna ethnically cleanse them! Many of them still think obama is taking care of them!
The australian aborigines are even worse off..Their ghettos are not made for human living!
“The world is a dangerous place to live in; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it.”
- Albert Einstein, refugee from Nazi Germany.
Do you guys wanna be the people who don’t do anything about it?
Please spread the word this coming GE!
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The same question should be directed to the Indian Plairseedant!
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he he ,he is busy packing his cloth an belonging because he only got 6 more month to stay in istana ha, ha ha
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Malay has no future under PAP.
Bring in MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD and AL-QAEDA, turn Singapore into ISLAMIC country and ,last but not least, eliminate all those infidels!
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Hello my dear friends
All of you have fallen into the LKY trap.He plays his racial political card & most of you guys & gals start the division based on race.
1st= LKY & Co is not interested in assisting the malays/indians/chinese/peranakans/other original Singaporeans.They can spend Taxpayers money in millions to help FTs & PRs to integrate into our soceity-Vivian Balakrishnan-Million $ man.But cannot help SIngaporeans regardless of race.
2nd=Paid millions to “fix” the opposition-LHL-Million $ Brain
3rd= We are not a nation yet=Shanmugam another million $ man
4th=The ISD officials are to be blame & charged=Wong Kan Seng
5th=In perspective of LKY & Flood-Yacoob Ibrahim Million $ Brain.
6th=They are paid peanuts compared to what they contribute-GCT wife
7th & the greatest 1 of all=Tiam Tiam keep quiet & loose billions of our money & still hang on cos no talented person in the world to take over her job=Paid billions $$$ =Ho Ching
1st remember that all of us are Singaporeans–Why are we not considered as Singaporeans by PAP?
The I/Cs segregate us by race.
LKY & his Family(Hakkas=the dog eaters) including the dead matriach=the mother of LHL/LHY/LWL is the only people who considers their fellow Singaporeans as Malays/Indiand/Chinese.The reason is simple-in the early years LKY when he wanted to suceed he used the Indians(Harbour Board-Port workers) to support him to be their rep. Then he got the Malays by getting into malaysia to get rid of a chinese Lim Chin Siong-finally when he succeeded he tried to screwed the Malaysian by trying to be the PM of Malaysia. Then after achieving all what he wanted with the help of Singaporeans-he screwed the strong & equal man who fought the british Devan Nair the unionist to be the President & latter fix him up just because he started questioning LKY.
When he realise that PAP is going to be removed from power soon he started playing his racial card again. He thinks that once there is a racial conflict he could use ISA & the army/police etc to grab & hold on to power.(Huh Freak election?That what he will say when he loses)
So my freinds lets whack them as one united people rather then a Malay/Chinese or Indian.
Totally agree the butohs/Pukis(Malay),Pundeh/Pariahs(Indians),Kan ni nahs/Tui na sengs(chinese)MPs & Ministers & the Siol,Chuni,chow hai President boh Lampar Nathan(Cannot be compared to Ong Teng Cheong) & the woody GCT/LKY/WKS must & shall be voted out, so this will achieve happiness,prosperity & expose all the nepotism/corruption of the past 50 odd year PAP was in powers.
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singaporean malay abroad:
February 11, 2011 at 12:46 am (Quote)
Dear Zahara,
As much as I am unhappy with the Malays joining the oppressive PAP regime and some of these people I know from varsity days…I think that they do not have a chance trying to do anything much…they stay in PAP cos its a good paying job and anyway were they voted to represent Malay issues? They represent all Singaporeans they will say to your face.
Reading internet news from afar, I see that the younger Singapore Malays themselves think that they dont need any help because they believed that the PAP meritocracy plan has worked for them and there is no discrimination at all. I read the AMP karyawan occasionally….
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well said.
well abang dan adek,
form your own single or small party and contest and contest this coming election.
you never know you may be in parliament soon.
lky and pappies fear the malay votes.
make them sh-t bricks.
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singapore’s short history in a nutshell.
well noted and said.
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I do not know about others but as a malay I think leaders from the time of Othman Wok,Ahmad Mathar,Abdullah Tarmugi & Yaacob Ibrahim has a very bad aura.
People hate them for no reasons.
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Dear People,
I propose a race-blind affirmative action program for the lower income bracket. Help everyone who is poor.
The rich can afford expensive enrichment programs and tuition but the poor cannot. And we cannot just help the Malays. We must help EVERYONE WHO IS POOR.
So lets have a race-blind affirmative action for the poor.
Regards
Dr Syed Alwi
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The MP’s are all the same, be they Chinese , Malay or Indian.
One sick man’s ideology all ministers and mps have to follow.
That is how hollow they are.
This resulted in the deranged governance of Singapore.
OPS’ seem to be more realistic and down to earth kind.
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What can i say abt the malay mp’s – a quote from Yakult – yesterday in one of the pap sponsored event.
Be brave – all the malay mp’s are cowards
Be ready – all the malay mp’s are ready to psyche the malay community
All the Malay MP’s are only interested to look after their rice bowl.
I hope the opposition parties will ensure that the Malay candiadates that they put up in the coming election are on par or better than present malay mp’s of the pap.
We will support you
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sound like a jealous guy….
most of them listed probably earn more than u
And they have Achieve something that you can never achieve in your typical life…
what is your achievement??
venting your frustration in the internet?
complaining foreigners stealing your typical job?
scoring As in exam but yet can’t compete at international globalize
standard and then blame everyone for your uselessness in society?
look at this this way…..
all of them make it overseas meaning…. thier talents can compete
at international level…
PS
sheik vs yeo= world games (professional) vs SEA games (amateurs)
Fandi…. noh alam shah…… local footballers
most of them are professional and yet you compare with amateurs
professional represent themselves rather than thier country..
examples floyd mayweather…. muhammad ali….. manny paqiauo …
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sounds like conditions in singapore?
you decide.
just beware of pap trolls out to destroy singaporeans’ unity as one people , one nation.
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When Hitler was ruiling Germany,Lot of Jews,scientist,and many top notch people was with him to put in the rules and regulation so that the dictator can rule. Same here gose for the Malay,the Current LKY aka worst than HItler will have some Malay MP to rubber stamp everything he said.They can never say NO to him or else their million dollar salary will gone.They are more intersted to keep their pay than to fight for the righ of the Malay people. Till the Malay race support PAP nothing will change. You will be sideline till the FT will tak over and run this country.Malays wake up for the last and final time,dont be fool by the goodies given by the PAP to tie you down mentally and physically.break the chain of slavery which is tied to you for the past 500 year in Singapore.Break it now.
U can do it
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majullah singapura !
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@Zahara:
The Malay MPs are only giving lip services to the malays, much like the chinese MPs are now all talks and no actions.
We cannot let ourselves be deceived again by the PAP this coming, if we do then we are really daft! We should call on our friends to vote for change before it is too late!
Please give your vote to the opposition, I am pledging the 4 votes from my house to any opposition who comes to Sembawang GRC.
I am sure with the losing of great number of votes and seats in the parliament the PAP MPs will have to really buck up and serve the people properly.
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So lucky my Malay girlfriend can make it into NUS. However, she told me that there are still handful of Malay drop out of school. What I am thinking now is that whether PAP only focus on Chinese youth?!?! I still spot Chinese youth drop out, so is Indian youth. Malay students used to have free education. Now? Ever since LHL became the nation’s “strongman”, they have to pay. How would they be able to take them to school when education fee is so “sky rocket” high? Anyway, not only Malays, every Singaporeans are fed up with this education fees. PAP only know how to get money from us! Do we learn any real things in school? Get the PAP out if you wish for free education.
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@Goh Sook Jin Your words speaks lowly of yourself. ISD should be knocking on your door.
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ramai nya, hantus dan musoh di-dalam selimut.
adoi !
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susah ! susah ! susah !
mana nya panadol saya.
sakit ! sakit ! sakit ! sakit !
nak undi siapa?
pkms, sda, sdp, spp, rp, wp, sjp, atau siapa?
betul lah kepala pusing.
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Too many Christian MP in Parliment.
Should have quota and give other religion places too.
Look
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For example, a company like Google. Why is it the best?
Is it because of Google leaders? Strictly speaking its because of talents and nothing to do with Google. imho.
Get the drift?
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The way I see it, the real progress lies with the very few Malay MPs who have joined a very exclusive group of elites made only possible at the mercy of our PAP leaders while the rest of the Malays peasants have to make do with the limited scope of jobs available to them such as lorry drivers, delivery men, despatch riders, low-level data entry clerks, receptionists, etc. And for these kind of jobs they had to compete with the foreign workers.
And when they do come across the odd example of a Malay success story, the Shit Times & Berita Harian will not hesitate to splash the news for maximum publicity. I suppose this is the real facts of life for the plight of the majority Malays in Singapore.
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On how can malays become successful, Mr Yacult should be the best person to answer this? How did he manage to climb the ranks with little help from his day. And how is he bringing up his children now which I’m sure would be as successful, true?
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Puzzling. If 1) progress in education is the issue in contention and 2)(almost) all students attend national schools; why ask the Malay MPs for the lack of general progress of Malay Students in education? Is it because the subject in question are seen by the author and all those who are supporting the view as MALAY Students instead of Singaporean Students?
As far as I remember, without fail, in the top 10 if not top 3 of every major exams (PSLE, N, O, A), there are Malay students in the line. Perhaps, a question to ask (amongst many more) is What went right in neighbourhood schools like Coral primary where Malay students generally do well and what went wrong in some other schools where Malay students do not perform just as well?
Students are students regardless their ethnicities and cultural background. Singaporeans are Singaporeans regardless their ethnicity and cultural background when it comes to general issues of livelihood such as education, quality of life, employment, opportunities, safety etc. These are aspects of life that every individual would want some security. In the absence of clear assurance for security, the litllest effort made is purely for survival sustenance.
My sense is that in the absence of capacity of some teachers in some schools to acknowledge that there is a need for pedagogical differentiation when teaching students from different SES groups (p.s. even for the ‘elite’ of high $ worth stdents, there are the Chinese based SAP schools and Autonomous schools), minority communties will not want just pray and tell but will actually want to do something about it. This is where the littlest efforts by Malay organisations to encourage Malay students to do well despite the lack of security of pedagogical effectiveness in schools (if this is not necessary, ask why are foreign national students given incredible support to help them with thier language skills and adapting in schools).
I doubt that even if alternative parties were to come to power, the situation will change given that prejudice is still the basis of judgement.
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Get rid of all the useless Malay PAP MPs and vote for Jufrie Mahmood of the SDP. Jufrie understand the Malays and other races very well. He is a true blue Singaporean.
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the tiny district of rembau in the state of negri sembilan in malaysia where i come from has produced more malay doctors, engineers, accountants and phds than the whole of singapore!. any way, i thought there are no more malays in singapore since they’re so ashamed of themselves they would rather be known as descendants of arabs, indians, indons or baweans!
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eehhh dat zuraidah ibrahim related to the yakult? youngest sister in the brood?
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Let me be frank what the Malays want to make them feel happy:
1. PM is Malay.
2. Important ministries are under a Malay minister.
3. Pork is not allowed to be seen at places where Malays’ around. Or
if allowed at the corners just like in Malaysia and other Islamic
countries.
4. Churches and temples are limited and controlled.
5. Quota system in all aspect of life where Malay at least must
occupied 50% of the capacity.
6. Mouques can use loud speakers producing prayers until JB can
hear.
7. No migrants from PRC or other countries who look like Chinese.
8. Illegal muslim immigrants from Indonesia be allowed just like
Malaysia because all muslim are bros and sis.
LKY knows above very very well just he cannot speak it out in detail and mentions the word Malay.
He has urged true blue S’poreans Chi to have more babies but failed. On the other hand, the Malays are having so many children and they can become majority in less than few decades.
Many of them married at very young age then easily broke up and very easily meet another divorcee to set up new set of family with new set of children.
So what choice he has ?
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Ms. Moore said: “Our group started when we were 50. When we left the neighborhood we were thousands.” As the protests broke up that day, she said, she saw a man shot to death by the police. She carried her medical bag to the next demonstration and set up a first-aid center.
By the time they occupied Tahrir Square, she and her friends had enlisted the Arab Doctors Union — many of whose members are also members of the Muslim Brotherhood — which set up a network of seven clinics.
When he called the information in to the group at Mr. Elaimy’s house, they drew up a detailed plan for protesters to gather at specified mosques, then march toward main arteries that led to Tahrir Square.
They even told Mr. ElBaradei which mosque to attend.
Then they informed the press where he would be, and pictures of a Nobel laureate drenched by water cannons flashed around the world.
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read the full text in the home page of tr here on “all wired up”.
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Singaporeans are essentially the most selfish folks in the world.
I don’t blame the Malay MPs for selling out their conscience and community to the old man.
After all, all Singaporeans do that.
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Why do we have a minister in charge of muslim affairs to begin with
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The organizers disseminated a weekly schedule, with the biggest protests set for Tuesday and Friday, to conserve their energy. And before each protest they leaked a new false lead to throw off the police, letting out that they would march on the state television headquarters, for example, when their real goal was to surround Parliament.
They formed a coalition to represent the youth revolt, with Mr. Ghonim on their executive committee. When the government began inviting them to meetings, they held a vote in Tahrir Square to decide. About a half-dozen representatives of youth groups participated, one person said, and they voted against negotiating by about 70 percent.
Most of the group are liberals or leftists, and all, including the Brotherhood members among them, say they aspire to a Western-style constitutional democracy where civic institutions are stronger than individuals.
But they also acknowledge deep divides, especially over the role of Islam in public life. Mr. Lotfi points to pluralistic Turkey. On the question of alcohol — forbidden by Islam — he suggested that drinking was a private matter but that perhaps it should be forbidden in public.
Asked if he could imagine an Egyptian president who was a Christian woman, he paused. “If it is a government of institutions,” he said, “I don’t care if the president is a monkey.”
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Mona El-Naggar contributed reporting.
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I agree with Onederer.
Why is it the “Malay MP’s” responsibility to improve Malay students’ education? It would be the Minister of Education’s mandate, for ALL students, regardless of race.
Were the MPs voted in (if they WERE voted in)just to oversee only Malay-related issues? We are not divided along racial lines, and should not be so. It would be like saying what has Michael Palmer done to improve “Eurasian” students education.
MPs and Ministers should be judged by their portfolios, regardless of what race they are.
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To suppress them.
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@monkeysee.
Totally agree with you.
But PAP use the minority representation excuse to have GRCs. So with this reason we can also ask Malay MPs to address/improve/speak out on issues related to malays.
No?
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I think the purpose of the Malay MP’s is to act as a scape goat for the failures of the ministry of education. The govt and the PM never takes resonsibility for failures. If Malays have a problem it is not the govt’s problem.
With institutionalised racism, it stands to reason that education or the lack of education is one of the primary forces with which the govt can subjugate a whole race. This explans why the govt GLOATS over this problem rather than demand answers for this failure. It is in fact a successful strategy of the govt. Our education system must be seriously flawed, when u notice that most of the top students in Malaysia today are the Malays were as they cant perform in Singapore. It must mean that our education system is not up to par. Thats why all the top non civil service jobs go to foreigners.
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Personally i feel Malay don’t excel because many are poor with numerical skills. In Sg, i realized no maths lu mati oh. In my opinion its not they are naturally poor with numerical skills perhaps its just that the malay people have a different way on looking at numbers and perhaps if we can tapped on the malay perspective of how they perceive mathematics ,i feel that the malay society can excel. Therefore we need to upgrade to a education system that more flexible with ultra-spectrum teaching methods rather than the one being carried out in the education system.
Apart from that i realized that the malay society is creative and imaginative,if we can tapped on the strength, im very sure we can excel above all.
Like Einstein said :
“Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.”
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sALAM BUTO TO BERITA hAIRAN
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The PAP has for many years distributed out the Malays and scattered them throughout Singapore.
The population of pets like dogs and cats in a particular constituency is more than the Malay population.
Hence it is very difficult for Malays to form an alternate political party in any constituency to protect their interest.
But majority of the Malays voted for PAP because they’re employed for lowly grade civil servant like postmen, policemen, firemen, even watermen for PUB, etc.
The Malay MPs with PAP are just figurehead for the Malays but stooges of Lee Kwan Yew.
What have the Malay MPs done to improve the life of the Malays?
The answer is nothing, only their life and bank account have improved drastically but not yours.
Better vote PAP out and be more proactive politically by joining the alternate parties to improve your life.
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Why are we paying hundreds of thousands monthly to a old men to write his own book, made our muslim sporeans felt unhappy, fly
here fly there, took medical leaves ?
And he is looking for another 5 years term ? Oh no, Tolong Tolong
la ….. time for hi to join his wife
I am looking forward for another sttate funeral before next GE
Rest-In-Peace Harry lee
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i believe any malay if contesting alone in a single ward may even win that ward hands down.
the other races of singaporeans will get hammered down by the pap like the jbj’s and chee soon juan’s cases.
whereas with a malay opposition candidate with not too much muslim radicalism imbued in their call to their stand for freedom from oppression from the pap, other than the existing pkms, any move a malay makes, he may be watched like jufrie – who was hammered down for his allah akbar related claims – before, but the pap is always very wary of the indonesian and malaysian factor as they will all be watching singapore – dr, mahathir will be the first, et.al.
that is the real hard truth of singapore.
but this may never happen because the singapore malays have shown time and again, that they are easily contented because of their abilities to skirt around their malay dilemma in singapore and the pap heavy “subsidies” to subdue them absolutely.
notice further how most malays survive in singapore?
most spend their singapore-hard earned money in malaysia with some already setting up their homes in malaysia like most malaysian workers in singapore in case things go wrong in singapore like the racial riots before.
the minority singaporean malays are basically like the minority frenchmen in canada who are deep-seated in their religion and likewise suffers the most in canada.
they suffered so much under the english speaking canadians such that during the world war years they were placed in front-lines of the war ever ready to be shot down first by the enemies of canada then.
ever notice a canadian prime minister, whatever his race may be, besides the frenchmen being a minority in canada and the bi-lingualism laws in canada, must always speak french or hardly ever stand a chance to become a canadian prime minister?
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a few people here asked “Why is it the “Malay MP’s” responsibility to improve Malay students’ education?”
1) PAP Malay MPs claim they are leaders of Malay community. They together with PAP leaders claim that since Singapore Malays voted for PAP, they have by default chosen PAP Malay MPs as their leaders. If that is the case, then it is clearly their responsibility to oversee improvement in Malay students’ education.
2) PAP Malay MPs claim that the Malay community has improved under their leadership. They claim Malays are getting higher grades than before. Well that actually means nothing since everyone is getting higher grades than before. That is a useless and invalid measure of whether Malay educational outcomes are improving. What is an appropriate measure is looking at the gap between Malay students’ performance and other ethnic groups. PM Lee claim one must not look at this measure. MM Lee just claimed this gap will never be closed. Now for sake of argument, lets assume its PAP Malay MPs who is responsible for Malay students getting higher grades today compared to past. Firstly where were you critics to stand up and ask them why is it their responsibility? Then you accepted that it was their responsibility. Now you deny they are not responsible for Malay students not performing as good as other ethnic students today just like how they were in the past.
3) This is an absolute autocracy. PAP Malay MPs maintain tight control over the Malay community. They have made sure that nobody else can help the community except them and those agencies that have their support. So again it is PAP Malay MPs responsibility.
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it is time for MALAY ROTHER AND SISTERS to show the world and lky what is INTEGRATION OF RACES as they should integrate with other races to topple the PAP in the coming ELECTION. The MALAYS are the natives of this country and today the FILIPINOS are brought to replace them as the FILIPINOS look like MALAYS too. Why bring so many CHINESE FROM CHINA AND INDIANS FROM INDIA to see that the MALAY POPULATION DO NOT GROW (THIS IS MY OPINION)
ZAHARA as a MUSLIM one of you must write to the ST FORUM asking LKY to apologise and MR MOHD A A is the HERO to bring LKY to court to answer his claim about the MALAYS being less strict and do not integrate well with other races.
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The whole problem has got to do with money we are at a stage that the MPs are happy counting their money and neglect their actual duties, that’s why absolute power corrupts , it’s so bloody obvious , vote all of them out
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What utter rubbish. There are many Malay engineers and a lot of creative Chinese types. This is racial stereotyping at its best.
Maybe some older Chinese are comfortable with the abacus, thats what some people mean by better at math.
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By now all Singaporeans are all too familiar with
the pappy philosophy for all things, esp. when they
go wrong: It’s YOUR OWN FAULT.
To return the compliment to the govt at the
our turn to tell them it is YOUR FAULT that
you have to vote the way you do! That’s the only
logic they understand. That’s the only way you can
make the hatchet-knuckle duster man understand his
party’s moral obligation towards Singaporeans!
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Please don’t quote a few successful person and start to claim that “paper qualification” and etc not important. Those that can make it just a handfull of them.
Do you know how many young malays are in jail right now?? Please don’t talk cock here when you are in your comfort zone. Malays do not have enough proper support. Our education system failed, almost every school children need tution to be able to catch up with our “high education standard ” (but degree holder still jobless). Those with financial difficulties will be left behind.
PAP failed the people not only Malay. Just vote them out for your children future.
Only Malays can give PAP a fast down fall.
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If u genuinely want a Malay as a minister who will act as a Singaporean with integrity, then look no furthur, JUFRIE MAHMOOD is your man. For that matter, if u genuinely want a True Blue Singaporean as a minister, then also look no furthur, JUFRIE MAHMOOD is your man. If u want a minster to look after the people of Singapore, especally their HDB concerns, again i will say JUFRIE MAHMOOD is your man.
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haha at least malay mps are working for the malays , look at our Indian mps, the board is probably choosing the ones only married to chinese so that that very Indian mp will not be 100% Indian but just another worker for singaporean . On what merits are the Indian mps or ministers chosen to represent us, they are simply chosen diciple for the majority . As for malays well no one wanna mess with the Malay muslims as they are national beings .
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This is truely a police control site.
My comments were always being filtered and thrown out not posted. Truely a typical controlled environment.
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At the end of it all. The conclusion is we, the AVERAGE, so-called Malays, will be better off in either Malaysia or Indonesia whcih are so resource rich and also governed by so-called Malays.
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yaacob is not a muslim affairs minister. He’s a minister in-charge of pap affairs in relation to muslims…just a rubber stamp like muis & the mufti
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Sindhu Guhan:
February 11, 2011 at 12:06 am (Quote)
Malay MPs are pukimas who do fuck all to collect millions but never help the Malay community
THE INDIANS MPS ARE ALSO THE SAME NO ACTION TALK ONLY……
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- Just wanna check, is this the Juffrie Mahmood the one that kena slapped by LHL many donkey years ago? Mr. Juffrie, if it is true how come you kena slapped?
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Asia Sentinel -
Understanding May 13th . . . .
http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2984&Itemid=178
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Malays have total power in Indonesia and Malaysia. Right?
What happened to the AVERAGE so-called Malay?
Why is the average Singapore Malay doing so much better than those in Indonesia or Malaysia? Whose credit? The 400k or so have a bigger talent pool than Malaysia or Indonesia or what. Be brains users.
Standard of living, per capita income, purchasing power, etc.
They are resource-rich and gained independence so much earlier than Singapore.
Even a Pr 1 child can see why HK, Macau, Taiwan, Singapore and China are doing so well. What’s the common factor?
China has 1 300 000 000 mopuths to feed. It turned around after 30 years from the civil war. It’s currently feeding the Americans as its No 1 creditor nation. China’s the 2nd largest economy on the planet and has thelargest foreign reserves on the planet. Singapore ONLY 700 sq km and no natural resources watsoever like HK. Taiwan land of computer chips like ACER and so on. Lots of wealthy people there.
So Sahara (doubt you’re a Malay btw) our minds mustn’t be a desert.
Even outsider like J Mallot can observe, think and come to conclusions. Otherwise one will forever become a parasite and be crushed by otehrs or nature like a cockroach.
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Normally when man fight they always punch. This pinky always like to slap.
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Very interesting. Blame game. Just blame others for your failing.
In Malaysia (Mahathir finally admitted they are all pseduo Malays from elsewhere by pointing out that Najib himself is a Bugis (Bugis are natives of Sulawesi), like him a ‘Malay’ Indian; funny people).
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In Indonesia they blame the Chinese. Started riots after riots. Finally invited some back to restart the economy. Today any difference? Go see Indonesia. Can forgive them. They are the real pribumis. Can be hungry also.
In Malaysia, blame the Chinese for their marginalisation and overprocreation.
Now in Singapore, blame . . . .
China’s world largest population. Deep poverty when the Communists fought the Koumintangs and where opportunist Japan invaded followed by communism (kongsi ideology) that went flop. Today after 3 decades, without foreign help but Western sabotages, has STOOD up. That’s ‘Kekuatan Cina’ for the world to see. Not some kris waving May 13-type politicians across the causeway fighting for more and more handouts and privileges after more than 30 years of NEP opium.Check this out.
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@Bunny
You have forgotten to highlight one thing – The reason why Indonesia Pri Bumis are going hungry is because most of their Bapak President Chinese Bankers have stolen and ran away with their hard earned money and park them in the -you-know-where neighboring countries. EVEN THE AUNTY PROPERTY AGENTS ARE VERY MUCH AWARE WHERE THIS BLACK MONEY COME FROM. That is why PAP Govt will never ever want to sign extradition treaty with the Indonesia Govt
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Most of the qualified, smart and hardworking Singapore Malays are very successful overseas holding the position of Bankers, Lecturers, General Managers in countries like Japan, Australia, US, UK, Middle East Countries. Most of them says it is better to be discriminated in a foreign country than in your own country. According to them, most of the good/ top jobs will be given to, if not Chinese themselves, to the Ang MOHs, whom LKY love dearly or to the Indians. And now that you have more F-Trashers the opportunities here are getting worse and bleak. The Malay MPs and the Malay Reporters (ST and BERITA HARIAN) are just wayang. Hell, whos going to give them that kind of pay by just keeping on highlighting that the Malays are in bad shape. Whether for the last 30 years or for the next 30 years, the opportunities for Malays here will remain the same if not worse. Those true blue Singapore Malays who open their eyes wide will not deceive themselves nor their future generations about the real opportunities here.. It does not matter whether these future Malays have parents who are Graduate themselves or come from schools like RI /RGS etc. Maybe you guys should ask Yaacob Ibrahim about his elder brother who topped his class in one of the IVY LEAGUE university who have decided to remain in USA. Was told he got disappointed with Singapore when he did not get the top post in one of the GLCs in Singapore.
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I agree with you that its a blame game people like to play when things go wrong. I agree that people have to stand up for themselves in times of crisis becasue if we don’t we will never grow muscles. This may sound blunt, but Malay students have to work hard if they want to succeed. This goes for other singaporeans of other racial groups. Its an inevitable fact that FTs are here. We have to be better than them in order to win them. Study harder, work harder, push harder.
If anyone disagrees go ahead thumb me down.
With that being said, I want a government that puts the interests of the people first. No point asking for more social integration if we are not treated with respect. A respectful policy would be to gradually slow down the number of PRs in Singapore, such that singaporeans can have breathing space. No amount of upgrading or re training is enough when there is someone that is cheaper than you. Our older workforce will end up unretired and unemployed.
I hope the new government takes this into consideration.
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all the will malay says indian an chinese are pendatang ,now the ang moh will say they are pendatang.susah
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Bunny, go back to Rockybru lah, don’t spew your continuous hate here in Singapore’s portal. No need to spread your hateful propaganda here in Singapore.
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It doesn’t matter anyway as PAP is replacing the Malays with Pinoys and Indians. Malays will soon be the smallest minority in Singapore.
Sooner or later have to share Suria channel with Pinoy programs and Tagalog will replace Bahasa as one of the official languages of Singapore.
MAJULAH SINGAPURA
Oops.. now it should be
PASULONG SINGGAPUR
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@ K
Agree with you. Donno what deal LKY has struck with Arroyo before her demise. PAP is a confused party and Malay MPs are nothing but a bunch of money seeking ********!
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He doesn’t trust Muslims. So a good alternative so as not to appear anti- Malay Muslims is to substitute with brown Christian pinoys. Simple.
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Hi, I’m NOT a Malay and will refrain from commenting about your ’scholarship for Malays’ issue.
Just want to say that Singaporeans have placed too much trust in allowing the PAP to hyper-inflate their GRC gerrymandering and oppression scheme that stifles all minority group interest. A minimum of 1 of 3 MPs= minority in GE1988, but since GE2001, only one in 5.4GRC MPs need be a minority [chart link]. Political hegemony is the reason why the PAP shrank minority representation in GRCs whilst hyper-inflating the size of each GRC.
The real use of the GRC system of elections?- that of making it easy for PAP to ‘buy’ talent:
- ‘GRCs make it easier to find top talent: SM’: “Without some
assurance of a good chance of winning at least their first election,
many able and successful young Singaporeans may not risk their
careers to join politics” ; with hosting site footnote: “In
Singapore, a Group Representation Constituency is a super-sized
constituency where 5 or 6 candidates from the same party have to stand
for election as a team. Voters vote for the party, not for
individuals, thus weak candidates can still win a seat in Parliament
by riding the coattails of stronger candidates.”- [ST 26June2006]
So really, Malay MPs like any other typical coat-tail PAP MP- are just spineless puppets out to have a good time [link] due to their misplaced sense of integrity.
According to ‘Singapore lifts whip on orchestrated parliament’[AFP
21Mar2002]: “The free vote is given to them when they make a
request, and the Whip will consider. In the past it was simply: ‘No
you can’t even request’,’ he said.”
Thus but for for the spineless soulless puppets and the obscene material perks [link] that these worshipers of the PAP and its mammon god seek, Singapore would be better placed returning the GRC system to its roots of no fewer than 1 in 3 members in a GRC being a minority and like was the case before the hyper-inflated GRCs, that at least 40 seats in parliament be contested as single seat constituencies with no dilution of Minority representation from current standards.
Scholarships or none, Minority races/ groups and their respective interested have been hoodwinked by the PAP and its army of mammon [link] worshipers into the support and creation of no more than a farcical pantomime of a nation-state.
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