A non-partisan analysis on the recent RP exodus
February 25th, 2011 | 
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Tony & Hazel
The recent exodus of about 20 members from the Reform Party (RP) has caught the attention of Singaporeans. Many have lamented that one of the most promising opposition party have self-destructed, and that once again the opposition is in a state of pathetic disarray, with their seeming inability to keep themselves together as a cohesive force against the PAP. With an educated guess based on historical trends that the General Election date will be held in May, just after the PAP’s vote buying package will be given out, this spat of “bad PR” for the RP could not have come at a worse time.
After analyzing both statements from RP’s Kenneth Jeyaretnam and the exodus couple, Hazel & Tony, I have come to the conclusion that this maneuver bears the telltale signs of a well-targeted political move by the PAP to discredit and weaken the RP, which has been seen in recent times as one of the strongest opposition party in Singapore. Why target RP? To many Singaporeans who have been brainwashed by the mainstream media, the SDP is seen as a pariah, the SDA is perceived to be losing influence with an aging Chiam, the WP is alleged to be a complicit ally of the PAP, and none of the other parties have the resources that is capable of contesting a substantial numbers of seats in the Parliament. Indeed, the only party that is shining now is the RP. If I were the PAP, targeting them would be the most logical and highest priority task. In fact, I would go as far as to opine that Hazel & Tony are PAP moles sent to infiltrate the RP and have completed their mission successfully by creating this bad publicity around RP.
Firstly, let us examine the initial news report from the mainstream media Straits Times. Focus on the specific words that Hazel & Tony used for their reasons for leaving, specifically “differences of opinion” that led to “a point where no further compromises could be made”. The careful choice of words was crafted to inflict maximum damage on Mr Jeyaretnam’s character and competency as the leader of RP. This setup is similar to the previous SDA Chiam-Chee split, which has perpetuated the myth that Chee ungratefully ousted his mentor Chiam that is unfortunately still a prevalent belief held today.
Kenneth Jeyaretnam
Secondly, let us examine the follow up responses from Kenneth and the couple, Hazel & Tony. Kenneth cited there were some concerns that Tony attempted to bribe the CEC. The couple’s defense was that the ang pow was given in a personal capacity, and was meant to help one of the CEC’s member’s son inthe backdrop of Chinese cultural practices of giving ang pow during the Chinese New Year. Nevertheles if we were to look at the sum of the ang pow, it is an anomalously large sum of $400 for just mere friends. In addition, even considering the cultural backdrop of ang pow giving, it is totally inappropriate to present such money at an official RP meeting as it will undoubtedly stir up misunderstandings of bribery. Kenneth’s request for an inquiry into this matter may be seen as a bit harsh and uncalled for from the perspective of some RP members. However, one has to bear in mind that locals have been brought up in an environment whereby the emphasis of professional ethics and conflict-of-interest in receiving gifts are sorely lacking, whereas Kenneth has been working in UK for many years which adopt more transparent system that places emphasis on professional ethical conduct and the importance of considering conflict-of-interest in such personal transactions. We should be happy that Kenneth has chosen to follow a strict code of conduct, and I do hope that this event will lead RP to craft a clear and written set of rules for accepting gifts. Thus, we can see the situation can be summarized as a simple cultural misunderstanding and a difference in professional ethical standards between Kenneth and the couple, Hazel & Tony. This may be a “difference in opinion” but hardly something that one would consider degenerating into “a point where no further compromises could be made”.
Thirdly, let us examine the manner in which the news was released. Hazel & Tony claimed that they did not release it to the mainstream media, but were rather contacted by the mainstream media for comment. If indeed Hazel & Tony were just innocent leavers of RP, why then would they even entertain the mainstream media with such malicious remarks, given the well-known fact that the mainstream media is just an extension of the PAP, and talking to them it would just give the PAP extra ammunition to attack the RP? If the couple were truly just innocent leavers of RP, they would have simply declined to comment. Instead, not only did they lash out malicious remarks about Kenneth to the PAP, they also successfully lobbied 20 members to leave with them, magnifying the severity of the exodus event. If this was just a simple misunderstanding between the couple and Kenneth, why then did they need to drag 20 other people with them? Finally, let us not forget that Hazel & Tony were PSC scholars and worked for the PAP government at one time. Given the nature of their actions and their dubious background, it is not beyond belief that they are PAP moles tasked to infiltrate RP and stir up trouble from within, a task in which they have accomplished successfully.
Given the facts that we have available to us, it is my conclusion that Hazel & Tony have intentionally stirred up this bad publicity for RP at a time where it would do the most damage (just months before election). My conclusions are based on the following facts, that the couple:
(1) intentionally chose to make malicious remarks against Kenneth to the PAP-controlled mainstream media with the knowledge that it will stir up bad publicity,
(2) the crux of the alleged problem appears to be nothing more than a simple misunderstanding and
(3) they lobbied 20 other RP members to leave with them, adding fuel to the fire they have started.
The PAP is to be congratulated for their political finesse in this maneuver that even outwitted Mr Kenneth Jeyaretnam, and even I have to concede that the PAP is the winner for this round. Let this be a warning to all opposition parties to be careful about who to accept into their parties, least they find themselves in a similar situation sometime down the road. My personal opinion is that all opposition parties should refuse Hazel & Tony’s application to join them as we do not know where their allegiance lies. Singaporeans can further lend their support by boycotting Hazel & Tony’s tuition agency, SmartLab.
Finally, given that 20 members were influenced to leave RP along with the couple does hint that there may have indeed been some “difference in the opinion” or some seed conflict within the party that the couple leveraged on to influence the exodus of these people. However, I would encourage Singaporeans not to see this as a sign of weakness but rather as a signal of strength. A healthy dose of intra-party conflict is necessary for a political party to grow and address the needs of the people from various viewpoints and considerations. It would be much worse if RP was made up of a bunch of “yes-men” agreeing to everything that Mr Kenneth Jeyaretnam says. Indeed, it is the conflict-less nature of the current government that has led to current sorry state where the needs of the people are not addressed by any politician.
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Garrett Goh
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so now RP is left with “yes-men”?
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Please do not read the Straits Times. It is another Petir publication!
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This may not be related to the article but it’s a healthy suggestion. And that is that you shouldnt be moderating comments. You guys as people who advocates freedom and alternate views pales in comprision to even the “controlled” Strait Times Media forums where posters do not need their opinions to await moderations. Unsuitable posts(eg. racists remarks) are only taken off after posting.
I hope you take this into SERIOUS consideration so not to be dubbed as a “controlled propaganda site” .
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Agree with the points stated.
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CONFIRMED ANOTHER DIRTY JOB BY LKY AND FAMILEE,ALL THE HAND ARE ONLY POINTING TO THEM.Who else then
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Pardon me for laughing out loud.
- The 2 leaders (JT and TT) and possibly others were from the WP, not the PAP.
- NSP, SF, SDA and WP openly courted the breakaway group to join
Perhaps hell has no wrath like a suitor scorned – twice. I didn’t know moes are so desirable.
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KJ and RP will ride over this unfortunate storm. No one is bigger than a party. Sporeans have seen the true colours of these infamous quitters. Moles or not, other opposition parties should think twice of accepting these former members of RP to their fold after the damage that these quitters had done to RP. All the Best to KJ and RP!
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LKY cannot win on his own merit. He will always attempt to make others look bad for him to look good. He is a very despicable being.
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Tong and Hazel are moles. Period.
from what we know so far..
Tony wanted to go with his angpow walk about under RP banner but in his personal capacity. What kind of bullshit is that. If he is indeed that charitable, he and his wife could just go quietly to give angpows to those poor families that they wish to help. No need for prior annoucement. The whole purpose of this is to create division and animosity among the various candidates in RP and as KJ said, to give ammunintion to pap to shoot bsck at RP over the budget vote buyings.
The $400 angpow to the CEC member, they could have given the angpow after the meeting and not infront of others. This is purposely done to create unhappiness, insinuation and misunderstanding among the members.
KJ mentioned that certain people would want to go the NMP way. Looks like the Pap intention is to made RP into an approved opposition party. Seeing that it is not to be, then next move is to try to destroy the credibility and standing of RP.
Well done Tong and Hazel, but we ain’t duds !
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SPP and WP are PAP moles as well. They will approve Tony’s and Hazel’s applications to join them.
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“Given the facts that we have available to us…”
It seems your article has placed the conclusion upfront, and then constructs the evidence to support your conclusion. Besides the ang pow, there are no other facts. Even then, the ‘fact’ in the ang pow incident was what was handed over at a specific location. The motive behind remains unclear, from the different viewpoints present.
How do you know 20 members left because of the duo (in fact, it should be less than 20). Second, how would “differences of opinions” that led to “a point where no further compromises could be made” be deemed malicious unless the reader chooses to think so?
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MOLE … it is always the case before election to discredit the other party … farking low down sewage rat.
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the mole tactic does not work when people wish to give a good Mandate to the loving government at the polls.
RP vs PAP, they’ll give a good mandate
moles vs PAP, they’ll still give the same good mandate
either ways, the same mandate will be given, and this will be historically the most significantly shocking mandate that no number of moles can redeem.
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Who care. I will still vote opps for change.
I don’t want to be call DAFT!
No money for retirement
high cost of living
Self paying millions salary
lossing billions with no transprancy
Send your parent to JB old folks
More FT
and many many more!
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The PAP is to be congratulated for their political finesse in this maneuver that even outwitted Mr Kenneth Jeyaretnam>
It would be disingenuous if KJ were to be suspicious that these 2 are moles right from the start. He has given them the benefit of doubt, provided them the opportunity to serve the people. I applaud him and any true leader would have done the same. I don’t see KJ as being outwitted. There will always be moles around. And when the moles decide to stir trouble, as a true leader he came forward and gave the people the facts. That’s a good demonstration of accountability and transparency to his political members unlike our government.
Don’t worry KJ- you’d still have my vote. The $400 ang pow says it all. Those members who left with these 2 scholars are either stupid or moles themselves too- neither qualities of which you’d want in your members.
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This is supposed to be nonpartisan?
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NONSENSE!!!!!
Now RP is left with moles-less, credible men!
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Wonder what the couple’s lab actually teaches their students. To become betrayals like them, I supposed.
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In my opinion, the analysis is wrong.I wouldn’t rebut his arguments in detail.
KJ said they didn’t resign.Their memeberships ceased because they have not paid subscriptions for 6 months.
Both sides had good words on each others.So one can say they amiacably seperated.
Please be fair.
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“Singaporeans can further lend their support by boycotting Hazel & Tony’s tuition agency, ”
The above statement shows your biasedness on this issue.
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Hi Author,
I feel your analysis is way off-tangent. Here are the following salient points you missed:
a.) Dr Chee Soon Juan had already vouch for the characters of both side. Hence we now have to rule out “moles-from-PAP” conjecture. Unless you think Dr Chee is a PAP mole.
http://yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/4635-let-us-help-to-resolve-rp-issue
b.) SDP is hardly a pariah. It has grown to be quite a credible party judging by its successful $20K donation drive purely from internet. I hope voters can similar do this for their election effort. $20K can easily put a couple of candidates to run for election.
c.) WP alleged being an ally of PAP is also a fallacy perpetrated by some elements of online community, especially certain editor(s) of Temasek Review. Whether these people are PAP moles or just plain ignorant is yet to be seen. WP, in fact, is the greatest threat to PAP being the oldest party and had a huge support base, both from the blue-collared workers and the silent moderate majority. They are the ones who have consistently getting 40%+ votes in GRCs and most likely to wrestle one from PAP (Eunos, Cheng San, Aljunied). WP is the only party that has NO media support (both from MSM and internet community) and yet done the most on the ground quietly.
d.) That RP is a shining star is undeniable. However, please note that their reputation is way inflated compared to their achievements. Many voters have to understand they have not been tested and in fact, this episode is their baptism of fire. (a tiny flame in fact). The big guns of PAP had not even fire a single salvo yet.
e.) The ang pao incident and the MSM incident are also blown way out of proportion. The ang pao recipient had already said his piece in the article as follows.
http://theonlinecitizen.com/2011/02/mohd-affendy%e2%80%99s-response-to-the-ang-pao-incident/
Note that the recipient, like Dr Chee, also vouched for both parties. As for the MSM, it’s basically naive greenhorn politicians falling easily to MSM tricks. This is understandable and not malice on each side.
My own analysis is basically this is a cultural conflict between the “hearts” and the “brains”. Those that quitted are the hearts. The touchy feely type who wants to do charity, help people, connect with people. KJ and those with him are the more rational people who deals with cold hard facts and logic.
We need the “brains” to defeat PAP. We need the “hearts” to win people’s support.
If I might remind everyone, the same thing happened within PAP. LKY was the “brain” and Lim Chin Siong was the “heart”. History has shown what happened. This is why Singapore had a lot of brains but no heart.
The challenge now is for the opposition to see how to reconcile the two. Without which it will be tough to dislodge PAP. If opposition only have the “brains”, they will eventually dislodge PAP but they will become the new PAP. If the opposition have the “hearts” which there are many to date, they will never be able to dislodge PAP and have to content with scraps given to them, like the NCMP.
Finally, I feel this issue has been blown way above proportion. I suspect the real PAP agents are the ones who is fanning the fire. Right now the battle is coming. Everyone should put down their cudgel and concentrate to face the common enemy.
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Forget that Hazel & Tony were PSC scholars
Only stupid scholars give ang-pow in public
Anyway’ they are too ugly to be in politics.
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The writer can have his suspision but lack proof.Then his reasoning cannot stand.
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Interesting statement by PM Lee:
GE: Electoral boundary changes should help contesting parties: PM Lee
I thought the MM Lee said something to the opposite that no ruling parties help their opposition parties to win !!! Puzzling.
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I was just getting warmed up and becoming a fanatic of Tony when this happened.
What a waste.
Looks like another 10, 000 years?
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The way KJ handled the matter is of utmost importance.
This is what we call, ACCOUNTABILITY!
Tell TH, GIC and lastly our Papies led Gov’t to learn from KJ!
My Sacred Vote Goes to Any Opposition contesting in my ward or GRC!
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haha.. We are not first day knowing how good the PAP done to opposition parties.. But for sure, those people carry out all those good things will be handsomely rewarded by heaven..
Just bear with it.. we have only couple years of life.. just do our best.. the most effective way to bring balance to our government is to enlighten those pro-PAP poor sotongs around you.
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NO COMMENTS TO ADD. BUT ARTICLE IS A GOOD ATTEMPT TO MAKE SENSE OF WHAT HAD HAPPENED.
MY BEST WISHES TO ALL THE PARTIES.
MAJULAH SINGAPURA!
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Folks,
Let’s forget about this RP spat, a likely PAP ploy. Concentrate on helping KJ/ RP to focus on the upcoming GE.
Whatever done cannot be undone, we need to move on immediately as time is running out.
Pls tell intersted people around you to join RP or other Oppositions as candidates, members or volunteers asap.
We now need 87 contestants and more help is needed for the GE campaign.
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Tony gave ang pow to one of the CEC members and said it is not meant to buy vote.
Sounds very much like the FAP who is giving out growth bonus to all sinkies and said that it is has nothing to do with election.
Another thing, if Tony can afford $400, why FAP can only afford $800?
Just goes to show you that Tony is FAPee rat and FAP is cheapskate pig.
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The Hard Truth is that many humans and their leaders do not believe that the invisible realm exists, and some do not respect the Unseen, and yet many readily and easily believe in the words of politicians, some for a few months and some for decades.
This is the fundamental flaws and contradiction of humans.
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@ Nonsense: You are right , think these Singaporeans complaining always are very sure about themselves!
Yes! they are , unlike pig heads like you , who slithers like a double tongue Snake.
What? ST , should not be moderating comments!
It is a history from D.Marshall days, when he commented about ST.
Forgot Right! Pig Head , Moron! Short memory and bird brain!
Nonsense:
February 25, 2011 at 2:20 pm Nonsense(Quote)
unquote:
I hope you take this into SERIOUS consideration so not to be dubbed as a “controlled propaganda site” .
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Of course we take it seriously, that ST is a propoganda machine employing journalists who are champions in blowing the trumpets for Papies. Other blow jobs could be an added incentive , too!
TR , Nah! otherwise your comments will not be published right!
See! This is how a snake like you slithers with a pig head.
How dumb can you be! Moron!
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Mandarins.
2 former scholars, I smell a rat.
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Why continue to stir the pot when KJ has said his peace?
Please move on, focus on the elections and whether each political has a clear plan for the next 5 years of this country, not just big talk like “More Good Years”, “Singapore for Singaporeans”. We want clear plans, clears targets and clear policies and steps to get there.
A real serious political party will set clear targets, goals and policies to get there and demonstrate the political will to do so and the electorate measure the competence of the party at the end of each 5 year term by their results.
In fact, RP’s recent exodus of staff should only suggest consolidation of party cohesion and a good opportunity to build up party discipline and policies to move it forward as a united party, a good sign of political if they prove so in the future
Speculations of moles, spies, sabotage, character differences, character assasination, etc are weak assessment of political parties, like most core measures, its hard targets not “I dont like so and so” or “So and so look ugly”
Its sad to see the maturity of the Singapore electorate is still at the level of uncle/ auntie talk. That’s is no different from PAP saying James Gomez submitted the wrong documents, therefore not qualified to be an MP rather than addressing the key issues of this country
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People whose hearts are truely with the RP , will vote for the RP , no matter what happens. We need a reform , a change , a balance. This minor incident will only affect the swing voters , and not the true votes of the opposition.
I really hope Mr Chiam and Mr Kenneth can together combine forces to gun down a weak GRC (maybe Wong Can Sing or Mr Horse).And then Mr Kenneth can still fight for a SMC himself.
Low Thia Kiang and Sylvia Lim should also form one GRC team EacH and gun down PAPies.Low should not hang on to Hougang anymore , it is quite stable.
Forget about any other differences. Unite and get in more opposition in the parliament. There has to be a start. Oppositions need to win 2 GRCs at least. Otherwise Singaporeans are doomed , and i will start looking to migrate. This is a make or break election for Singapore. After this , we will be replaced by New Citizens and the future elections we true blue Singaporeans’ votes will not be enough anymore and the rest will be history
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I agree with Garrett Goh’s observations. I have the same thoughts after reading the reports. The one thing I don’t agree with is that PAP won this round. The way I see it, Kenneth’s integrity, strive for honesty and transparency and magnanimity (not badmouthing the two PSC scholars despite their malicious intent)shown through. He has proven himself to be a worthy leader who is commited to upholding those same values in his leadership and team. We cannot say the same about the PAP team and leaderhip. They sell out Singaporeans for $. The PAP serve $ingapore and NOT Singapore.
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incredulous insight to suggest anyone leaving a party could be PAP mole. this is not james bond era nor in singapore in espionage kind of crisis. the exodus would not hamper opposition cause. singaporeans who are anti PAP will vote for opposition nevertheless. the only part i am in agreement with the author is that i fervently believea RP is the alternative voice we have been searching for. singaporeans should continue to support them so that a real two parties government could emerge after this election.
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There will more dirty tricks up the sleeve of the ruling party. It’s main objective is to dissuade the voters from making the right choice – that is vote for the Opposition. Since RP and Kenneth are the biggest threat, they have done the first damage. I am sure others are in their hit list too.
The state media in full gear waiting to splash whatever dirt they can get of the Opposition. And look at the patronising publicity the MSM give to the PAP. How they insult our intelligence with such puppy-like adoration of the incumbents and the potentials.
But be that as it may, as voters, we should keep firm in our determination to rid this country of the ruling regime. Not to do this means losing our identity for ever because by the next elections, foreigners would have taken over everything in this country of ours. It will be too late by then.
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another case of stir-up the murky water before it has time to
settle-down. It is more timely before the main event.
Remember a chee soon juan did to SDP many years ago.
Chia see tong, ling how dong and cheo CB of Sdp are cruising nicely in the 1991 parliament, then came this damaging figure called
Chee SJ, single-handedly break-up SDP. Don’t know chee fast for what then?
So opposition don’t spend too much on unnecessary heart-ache quarrels at this critical moment.
GE too close for you to waste time on all these run-dogs
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@ nowaste:
February 25, 2011 at 4:20 pm nowaste(Quote)
Forget that Hazel & Tony were PSC scholars
Only stupid scholars give ang-pow in public
Anyway’ they are too ugly to be in politics
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You are absolutely right. Just like those ugly and uncharismatic PAP members – like GCT, Jamban woman Bee Hwa, backside like face Lui Tuck Yew, and many more. In PAP some even look like aliens.
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I will Vote RP or Any Opposition that comes my direction.
ALl my Life, I have been repeating this act.
I got No Choice.
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mFART MUST MATI
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Dont now how much these MOLES getting, Can CPIB start investigating.
If it no offence, i also wish to be a Moles.
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I agree with you.
This saga backfired.
Why?
Because it revealed the true character of Kenneth as a gentleman like his father.
A good character is something which is not for sale or Tony cannot by himself no matter how much he puts in the ang pow.
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i think this is a very biased article. the basic assumption is that tony and hazel are pap moles and the whole article then go on to attack them. why doesn’t the writer interviews some of the rp members who have left and asked them why they leave in the first place? all in all, more than 20 members have left. you cannot assumed that all these people are easily influenced and can’t tell right from wrong. if you have your top leaders walking out on you, then you have a serious problem with the sec-gen. first he claimed they did not resign but their memberships have lapsed (some for more than 6 months) then why were they involved in cec meetings, appearing at walk-abouts and as speakers at last month’s hong lim event. it’s strange that non members can attend important cec meetings and make decision for the party??? and if these people have ceased to be members, how is this ang pao going to have an impact? the today newspaper mentioned it was a “power struggle” and if that is the case, why didn’t tony take up KJ’s offer to take over the party? i think s’poreans need to know the truth and i am sure some day, the truth will be reviewed and we’ll know who is the real culprit.
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This whole saga is highly suspicious but would only make many like me even more fed up with PAP to cast our votes for any oppo!
Hope this ploy backfires at the kiasu and kiasi party!
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I, too am inclined to believe that these two are moles. If they are not and truly care about the interest of the oppositions, or of the people, they should have had a talk with KJ and if they still cannot come to an agreement, at least resign after the election.
One day the opposition will come into power. Maybe not this election but definitely, the day will come. When it does, history will be written with the names of traitors spelled out. This is what Barack Obama meant by `be on the wrong side of history’.
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I think those few who resigned with the 2 scholar moles are damn stupid. Or were they also given ang pow to resign?
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What a bunch of nice moes!
The opposition should produce more of such moes to raise its standard.
Now, let me think. What it makes of all the opposition parties fighting to get the moes to join? Does it make them bigger moes?
Already some hum sup are eyeing Nicole as chiobu. No prizes for guessing right who are those hum sup.
LOL!
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whatever, can RP please come to Bukit Timah – Holland GRC to fight out the current set of pap MPs. I’ll support with all my 4 limbs.
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A well written article I could not have expressed better…. time will tell if indeed the two are PAP moles.
Great PAP credentials, even to the extent of giving away “hongbaos” just before the election.. not a position of RP. Leaving en-masse to “inflict the maximum damage”, and leaking the news to the main stream media becuase the MSM called them for an interview?
I cannot imagine them joining any other opposition parties. Getting support of dissenters/oppositions through the RP, and then “inflicting the damage” when they have achieved it?
A leopard cannot change its spots.
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In response to Dr.Chee’s request not cast aspersions on either camp, I hereby withdraw all my aspersions casted against Mr. Tony Tan and Ms Hazel Poa in this Review.
I wish all the best to Mr. Kenneth Jeyaretnam, Mr. Tony Tan and Ms Hazel Poa and also to Dr. Chee.
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@NelsonLee
Can’t agree more with your chain of thoughts below. Well said.
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Allegations of bribery are defamatory. Care to accuse people in person with real name. No? Then F Off to Libya and defend your lying Simian King.
These kind of rubbish comments are spewed frequently by morons from a neighboring country. Cannot buay song or du lan ah? Must be mole or bribe issit? If resign after WINNING a election, back to square one – allegations of bribery etc. Just like the Malaysian monkeys who scream frog all day in Perak.
If there are moles, must be these commentators who are intent on creating doubt, confusion and dissension amongst opposition ranks.
PS Cry me a river when your 种族英雄 Yong Vui Kong hangs.
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To address the issues:
a) Chee’s personal statement is a politically correct statement of solidarity. He only “met” them. How much can they do about their personal characters and political agenda? You also neglect that Chee may have been tricked by the couple’s performance as Kenneth was.
b)”SDP is a pariah” was a comment written as an example of the misconception held by 66% of brainwashed citizens, in my explanation to justify why the PAP decided to target RP this time. It was not meant as an assertion that the statement is true.
c) Refer to part (b). The article was not written to attack SDP or WP, but to illustrate how they are doing slightly worse in terms of PR vs RP. If this has cause a misunderstanding, then I do apologize.
d) No comment
e) Yes, I am aware the recipient has come forward to vindicate the couple. However, I am not convinced. It could be mere damage control and positive PR spin, it could be that he has yet to understand the intricacies of the PAP mole plot that has just occurred, etc. Assuming that the couple are innocent, why present money at an official RP meeting with the CEC? Regardless of their motives, that is totally inappropriate. If the RP were the government, charges of bribery can and should be brought against the person receiving the money. This is not a matter over “brains” or “hearts”. It is a matter of professional ethical conduct and conflict-of-interest, concepts which Singaporeans do not understand… and you have just proven my point with your statements.
I detest your statement insinuating that Kenneth has the character like that of LKY, which is based on fallacious reasoning. Just because Kenneth is smart with double honors, so he should have a character similar to that of LKY? I think YOU are the one who is off-tangent here.
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RP should split the PAP votes at Aljunied.
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I will never vote for this two snakes Tony and Hazelnut. And if i have happen to have friends in SmartLab, i would asked them to boycott that tuition agency becos there are two big snakes insides will devour their childrens become little snakes too
Once traitor, forever traitor ! Listen all opposition parties, do not accept these 2 big snakes scholars into your parties, and also the rest of those who had walked away from RP, or otherwise you ppl will be courting death to your party if you allowed to. No blaming at the end of the day if you ppl choose to do so ! Dont say VerySian has not forewarned in advance !
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Placing the conclusion or more appropriately, the summary of findings up front is a known style of writing. The evidence was not fabricated out from thin air, it was based on an analysis on the 3 separate “press release” over the RP exodus incident and trying to piece them into a coherent picture.
20 coordinated resignations in one day, and the couple issuing a statement to the MSM about that? I do think it is an unreasonable conclusion that they are the ringleaders behind the bunch. Unless you are claiming that the other 18 resignations are just pure coincidence.
To address your last point, the malicious remarks started out with Hazel & Tony. The phrase “differences of opinions” that led to “a point where no further compromises could be made” is indicating that Kenneth is entirely inflexible and uncompromising. If that is not a malicious attack of Kenneth’s character what is? Also, going to the MAINSTREAM press to air out those statements is a malicious act. Read my article again, if they were really innocent, they would not done this. Instead, they chose to consort with the enemy.
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@Garrett
Another way of looking at “differences of opinions” and “a point where no further compromises could be made” is by linking this (correctly or incorrectly) to KJ’s statement saying that:
“There is a group within the Party who don’t believe in Change. They feel our best route would be to propose only minor tweaks and to aim for an NCMP seat.”[#1]
My personal take on this is that the TT.HP group wanted to go the NCMP way.
Whereas this we know is not this intention of KJ.
And as NelsonMLee has stated in his post above:
><b"Seeing that it is not to be, then next move is to try to destroy the credibility and standing of RP."
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[#1]: Press Release on the departure of nine RP members
http://www.temasekreview.com/2011/02/23/press-release-on-the-departure-of-nine-rp-members/
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@OTE,
I glad you have a change of heart……
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You could be like TOC which doesn’t hold comments for moderation, but which actively deletes and unapproves comments when it goes against their agenda. TR does comment moderation because it does not want to run afoul of the Sedition Act and other related legislation designed to weed out racist and anti-religious attacks. That’s a reasonable trade-off for me.
Plenty of people want to see TR taken down by the authorities. This is easily accomplished by getting a few operaties posing as ordinary commenters to post racist slurs and insulting attacks on religious beliefs to justify a crackdown. For all your claims that moderating comments runs against freedom of speech, have you ever had a comment which was not approved?
I doubt so.
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Only over my dead body they will get my vote
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Better not speculate further. Give both sides space and time to heal. There is not much time left to the next GE.
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The timing of these events, is generating a smell of the metaphorical “rodent ” (which is not the rabbit)
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Singaporeans let’s unite and give the PAP their wish, that is a freak election,
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A superb analysis you have there. I agree with you mostly, except I don’t think that those who quit were “hearts” and not “brains”. Tony Tan and Hazel Poa are clearly accomplished brains who once won prestigious scholarships from the civil service. Justin Ong and Nicole Seah formed part of RP’s youth and media outreach respectively. Gilbert’s account of his short stay in RP makes clear that during most of the walkabouts he saw mostly youths from RP, and not potential candidates RP was trying to field.
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This article was based solely on published reports and thus the conclusion drawn is strictly personal, unsubstantiated and merely speculation. Passionate people often are swayed by emotions, values and beliefs. I believe Tony and Hazel are truly passionate about politics, and serving the people – unfortunately they may not be ready for true leadership yet. A true leader should be able to better handle such situation. Still, if Kenneth, Tony or Hazel choose to contest in my area, I would still vote for them – simply because I believe they need the chance to prove themselves and ALL setbacks are learning experiences. They will only become stronger and experiences need to be gained.
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*** http://www.transitioning.org/2011/02/24/my-short-sour-taste-of-political-experience/
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Garrett you have done a great service, in this hard-hitting article,
to the pro opposition camp. Thank you.
One major point to consider:-
We can hardly expect KJ to openly say that the Traitorous Couple
and their mindless followers are moles because
a) it would reflect very poorly on an opposition party leader
that he have been taken for a ride by certain quarters.
b) KJ would be open to lawsuits from the turncoats if KJ publicly
had accused them of being moles. Also consider lawsuits from the Papies if they are accused of setting him up.
KJ has done the right thing by diplomatcally playing things down, by
defusing the situation, so minimum damage would be done to RP; and Dr. Chee has gain great creedence by giving support to RP. Notice that no other oppo parties have come in to support KJ
This augurs well for a future SDP/RP brotherhood.
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Click the link to see the scholar shaking hands with MIW. http://www.smartlab.com.sg/SmartLab/
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haha. i agree completely. that hazel so fat and look abit cross eyed to me. wah seh, if i want to see my mp, i also want to see one i won’t puke. heng she left and hope she won’t rejoin politik again. wah, the most gross picture is the one in the papers when they both hug. i almost vomit out my breakfast. where got people so ugly????
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Congratulations, RP!! No more shitty people,the likes of Tony Hazel in the party. They look idiotic anyway, dishonest too.
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Alright, assuming that this is the point of contention that spun off the “difference in opinion” that led to the inability for KJ to compromise because it is one of the key missions of RP – to reform and not to tweak, then why couldn’t they leave quietly? Why couldn’t the couple and their supporters leave without lashing out at KJ to the MSM/PAP? Why did they stage this mass resignation just months before the GE, and not leave last year when they realized they had this “difference of opinion” was a problem?
To all the Hazel & Tony apologists, the situation surrounding this incident is just all “too convenient” to be hand-waved away as an innocent and misguided breakaway from RP. If the couple and their supporters had left quietly and offered “no comment” to MSM, and perhaps hold a joint press conference with KJ to the New Media explaining the departure of 20 members, then I will be more inclined to believe that they are innocent. But facts of the case is that they did not. Not to forget that this is not an isolated incident. In KJ’s exclusive interview with TR, we learned that Tony attempted to carry out an unsanctioned ang-pow give away that undermined the integrity of RP. Some might even say they were trying to “sabotage” RP. Also, why was his membership fees not paid since last year? Were the couple planning to do something in 2011? This incident does not appear to be an “honest mistake”, but if people still want to cling to their political naivete that is their prerogative.
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(From: http://www.temasekreview.com/2011/02/25/let-us-help-to-resolve-reform-partys-issue/ )
AN OPEN APPEAL TO MR KENNETH JEYARETNAM
From: Mr Oh Tham Eng
cc – PM Lee, MM Lee, Dr Chee, Dr Wong Wee Nam, NSP, Orthers.
Dear Kenneth,
MAY ALL BE BLESSED!
I agree with Dr Chee’s sentiment and desire for all of you to come together. I would like to join him by encouraging you, as the leader of RP, to make the first move and say sorry to those 20 who left RP, and invite them back to RP. You won’t lose anything by saying “Sorry”, Kenneth. What Hazel and her husband clarified was acceptable—-they were following CNY tradition of giving angpows. So you do not need to be too uptight on the matter of the $400 angpow. Take it as just another instance of a murphy’s attack to cause serious misunderstanding between some people, as so commonly happen in human affairs.
On the other hand, I feel that Hazel and her husband need to be more circumspect on such matters in future, and not unwittingly put Kenneth in a predicament, as others will have different way of looking at such matters. So I would appeal to those who left to come back to RP and prepare for the GE 2011. Let both sides display their sportsmanship and magnanimity. Now is not the time to feed our big egos.
Why am I doing this—joining Dr Chee to appeal for both sides to come together again? Because I felt that PM Lee was really sincere in wanting to have more Opposition MPs in the next Parliament, not NCMPs. And the prevailing ground sentiments may be just right for Opposition to send in more people to Parliament—as MPs and not NCMPs.
And that was in line with what I had told PM Lee before the GE 2006, that Singaporeans wanted more Opposition in Parliament; and it would be good both for his and Singapore’s reputation. I was so pleased PM Lee was broadminded enough and receptive to my feedback to him, and he went on to give his best interpretation to what I had told him. MM Lee himself had also recently said that one day the PAP rule would have to come to an end, like all things in this world. Only God has eternity.
But the way PM Lee is leading the country and being so open to what people have to say to him, and not despising the feedback from small fries like me—this speaks very well for his inspiring leadership. So this allows me to play my role from both ends without being viewed suspiciously by people in the ruling party and by PM Lee himself or his dad as being a double-headed snake. But when all is said and done, it will be for the best interest of our beloved Singapore that must prevail over all of us—over what we said and do.
The fact is, Kenneth, we are all frail human beings, with our mortality to contend with and our desires in wanting others to treat us fairly and decently; with care and dignity.. So our hearts will over-rule our heads when it comes to the crunch, and we will vote accordingly. So I wish to say one more time that PM Lee is a naturally nice guy. Thanks also to his dear mum for succeeding to instill in her children this value of respect for others, and not allowing them to throw their weight around, especially when they were princelings. And I had been with PM Lee in SAFTI as fellow trainees during our NS days. I had sat beside him and had talked to him personally and so I can honestly say PM Lee is a naturally nice guy from my first hand experience.
Therefore, let this GE 2011 bring the best out of every one of us—-the contestants in both the PAP and Opposition parties, and the electorate. Then we can all be blessed!—whether as winners or losers.
So “Inspire us, Lord, to be thankful to Thee for Thy favours to us and our loved ones to do good deeds which will please Thee. Admit us, through Thy mercy, to be among Thy righteous.” An-Naml 27:19. “For the noblest in God’s sight is he/she who is the most righteous.” Al-Hujurat 49:13.
So to those reading my post: if you think that voting for the Opposition candidate in this coming GE is your good deed to please God, feel free to do so and be blessed, friends!
Thank you for reading my post.
Sincerely,
OTE
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Proofs
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1) Background
Tony Tan: Top graduate award for Company Tactics Course, Intelligence Officer Course and Engineer Officer Advanced Course
Hazel Poa: She served as an Assistant Director and Deputy Director in the Ministry of Finance and the Prime Minister’s Office respectively after graduation
2)PAP IB had used tactics to confuse forumers by pretending to support oppositions:
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=3056869
http://www.temasekreview.net/2010/12/20/pap-moves-to-counter-criticism-of-party-govt-in-cyberspace/
3) PAP had also been known to plant spies in corporates such as Banks.
4) Timing of fallout.
-> So near GE
-> After RP news, election boundaries report confirmed.
5) “In Politics, Nothing is Coincidental”
When u are dealing with LKY and politics, don’t be naive.
Forgetten about operation coldstore, operation spectrum, defamation lawsuits, internet Bridegate, GRC, etc etc
MMLee himself had admitted to demolishing oppositions.
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Yes I fully agree that Tong and Hazel are moles sent by PAP to disrupt RP just before election
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Sick – see doc.
Psycho- see shrink.
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whatever the facts, JB junior hv bn professional to put a full stop to the entire episode, let’s move on and concentrate on GE 2011
forget about a bunch on LACKEY, whose only interest in actually themselves
hopefully alternative parties hv enough candinates to allow all sinkie to vote, to show our leaders, where they stand
don’t be fool by those kiasu who carve out a smc to avoid losing their GRC
Guns on all front
Vote Wisely for a Better Tomorrow and “More Good Ears” or No Tomorrow
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CLARIFICATION to “A non-partisan analysis on the recent RP exodus”
It seems that are some misunderstandings about the intent of my letter.
1) It is a proposed hypothesis to make sense about the recent RP exodus that has garnered some bad publicity, based on available evidence up till 24/2/2011.
2) The suggestion that Hazel & Tony are PAP moles who instigated this mass exodus is a plausible explanation for the event. Nevertheless, even though I did not state it, I do not exclude the possibility that it could be simply “an honest mistake” and the bad PR was unintended. However, as reasoned in my article, the available evidence seems to indicate otherwise.
3) I did not explicitly state not to vote for Hazel & Tony, but it seems that many people have interpreted my intentions as such. If the couple and their supporters were to join another party and are fielded against PAP candidates, I will categorically recommended that all opposition supporters vote for them, simply because they are still a better choice by virtue they are not PAP candidates. However, if the couple were to enter as independents and engage in a 3-corner fight with PAP and RP, I will be singing a different song.
4) The last part of the article was to caution opposition parties to be careful when taking them in. At worst, they are PAP moles, and will stir up trouble again. At best, they are childish people who quit and make a big fuss whenever they don’t agree with something within the party, essentially making them a “loose cannon” and arguably more of a liability than an asset to any party. In both cases, it result in undesirable consequences.
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Awang,
you are from Eunos GRC right? Your political masters so intelligently carved boundaries macham using Cut-and-Paste function, crop here crop there, crop until Eunos GRC no more.
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Which PAP MP is good looking enough to be in politics? Everytime i pass some big poster of them i feel like puking. anyway, even if it is the elephant man, i will vote for him if he has a big heart and a sound mind.
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@Garrett
Make no mistake, me am no apologist to the TonyTan Hazel Poa protagonists.
What I want to highlight is something not many people have talked about. That is, the group within the RP that wanted only to go the NCMP route.
It’s my assumption that these two in the husband wife team were the main proponents to go the NCMP route. Now, the question is why choose to go for second place when the Party has the ability to gun for top prizes (that of full seats in Parliament) ? Full seats in Parliament means you are able to represent the peoples voices in all possible ways.
** Note that: Opposition parties in Singapore and critics of the NCMP system often state that the it effectively permanently resigns non-PAP MPs to a ’second class’ status and is a publicity stunt to lend legitimacy to the dominant party status of the PAP within the context of democracy in the country
If my assumption is correct, it would be then dubious and questionable as to why the Tan.Poa team wanted to go the NCMP route.
The next question to ask is, where they following external (pap) instructions to steer the RP to aim only for NCMP seats in Parliament ???
The above only adds to yours and many others here who have highlighted the other behavioural and conduct discrepancies of the TonyTan.HazelPoa team.
Many people feel that there’s something not right in what just happened.
You and many others have put in clear simple description what these are.
When there’s Truth in what one says or writes, that’s when the ‘gut’ feels right ! : )
** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-constituency_Member_of_Parliament
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So what if the couples are Moles or not Moles ? We still support the opp party to vote the papstards, don’t we ? Are Singaporeans so fucking gullible and stupid without steadfast conviction and mind of their own all these hard years. If so, Singaporeans deserve to be extinct species because the world doesn’t need a stupid dodo.
When the japanese invade China in ww2, do the chinese fight the japanese first or fight among themselves ? So why didn’t we learn from history ? The chinese will still fight themselves but at least their common enemy is the fucking japanese.
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I’m no fucking PAP mole , i just forget to put another word in !
“So what if the couples are Moles or not Moles ? We still support the opp party to vote OUT the papstards, don’t we ?”
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“Human do, Heaven see” So why dodo care whether the couples are mole or not. Their action will affect their karma if they are really mole. Beside, the real mole is not them, it is the Singaporeans who vote for PAP at the ballet box even though they are unhappy with those papstards.
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1, No sane opposition party wish for the NCMP route.
Only PAP wants that.
2, What u had described of Tony and Hazel looks like the exact behaviour of the well-known PAP Internet Bridegate on forums.
Had encountered them myself. They will pretend to support oppositions and talk to you, but later their will try to turn attention towards comparing oppositions with ‘approved’ ones like WP Low…things like ‘if oppositions has 50 LTK, but…’
They are moles. Period.
Sporeans shld stop being naive.
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Sorry for my previous reply.
my mistake for reading @Uppz – For Prominence, assumption as actual fact.
But I have agree with @uppz on one thing…the gut feeling thing.
@uppz, do read my post on ###proofs### earlier.
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di, you referring to that religious nut Oh Tham Eng? Hahaha..
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The NMP scheme is not only a form of co-optation but conforms to the government’s familiar elitist philosophy. Through the Special Select Committee, the government ensures that only people who have excelled or have special expertise in the professions, industries, commerce, cultural activities and social services are appointed. Through this scheme, the government has projected itself as providing a responsible and capable opposition.
Both the NCMPs and NMPs have some voting rights but are not allowed to vote on bills pertaining to financial and constitutional matters. They are second-class MPs and that the NMP scheme is particularly an affront to the principle of popular representation. What is unique about the Singapore case is that the development of NMPs precedes the development of proportionally elected representation. The scheme therefore does not support the development of multiparty representation but is a means of co-optation by the PAP to further entrench its position.
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so WP are moles. tony n hazel, previously wasn’t but now moles. their DEAR Leeder, Mr KJ is perfect and infallible.
Why? cannot handle the criticisms that kenneth is arrogant and that not easy to work with?
Ng teck siong left. Tony left, Hazel left, Justin left, Gilbert join n quickly left. Mr chairman oso throw in the towel. So they are all moles. WAKE UP FROM UR SLUMBER PEOPLE! STOP DREAMING! There must be something wrong. Not with KJ’s ideals perhaps but it could be his approach that is turning people away.
Anyway, i’ve never seen RP as being at the forefront. It is just something that KJ probably believes n what TR wants its readers to believe. SDP, WP & NSP has been doing more work. One improves its image, one works the ground weekly and the other can be seen engaging the malay minority and all 3 has spoken up on issues.
While RP has been nothing but just chest thumping. Out of the blue, the minimum wage is their original idea or so they claim.
Criticise SDP of taking things too seriously, then KJ actually dared to use CSJ’s 20K fine to his advantage by proclaiming LOUDLY that he donated to CSJ.
Then handled the SDA issue badly causing SDA to be split! Well, if KJ had given other members in SDA respect, SDA would probably appear more united than it is now.
After kicking NTS out, this KJ actually said something like for once singapore has a reliable, capable opposition. Another slap to the other opposition. How insolent!
I agree with some forummers that not likely the 20 who left are moles since CSJ himself has called them friends. oh does having friends among the 20 makes CSJ a mole too? RP chairman, ISA detainee. He left too. What? From ISA Detainee to being a mole, a pap stooge or by whatever name you want to call him?
Just my opinion there could be trolls disguising themselves as RP supporters to wreck apart opposition. Look at how they, through TR harass WP. Look at how they proclaim support n admiration for KJ which probably got to his head n turn off many. They start giving the false impression that RP is well supported, much-loved. The cracks within RP were forming but those false impression of a very credible opposition only makes the cracks more glaring.
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Sound like the Temesak holding and Mr Good year quit due to “different in opinion” report by the mainstream media last 2 years.
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What PAP do is to prevent Singapore have the best team/Talent from other parties, then the ppl have no choice have to accept a “sub standard team” to run the country.
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Same tastic use by PAP “cash and election goodies”
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From the wikilead,LKY bad mouth other party. By now, we should know our leadership quality.
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Their initiative for the daft program is to polarize the ppl unity and let the daft ppl fight among themselves (misshape the people) for their political gain and it has been very effective in the past.
Daft Program for Singaporeans by PAP government 5-1
For the PAP 1-1
The party chief use the “engineer” model to promote the team as smart, talented and well supported by ppl, without him there will be no Singapore. Our media is always promoting him as a hero like Mao Ze Dong. Even when they make mistake, they use rubbish party brand and old rubbish success stories to blind the public eye.
For the People 1-2
Election strategy
They use the media and bombarded them with rubbish and gossip news, rubbish TV program, rubbish policies, rubbish award, rubbish statistic, rubbish foods, rubbish excuses for all the mistakes made as they are trying to implant bad values like kaisu, kaisi and kaibo mentality. Everything that can make the ppl feel stupid with no choice but to put the blame on themselves to feel unfortunate.
For Other Political Parties 1-3
They discredit other parties and label them as the group of trouble makers. They always publish articles on the other parties’ catfights and they are acting as mole for PAP. They will blame the opposition has not doing a good job to assist the PAP. They bad mouth the other parties and said they are a group of useless creatures, getting paid and not doing a good job etc. Their intention is to limit the choices for the voters to create the ill perception that “no other party is better than PAP” and don’t want check and balance from other parties.
They did this also because they want to stay in power to profit from the system for their ‘welfare and benefits $$$’.
In actual they really treat the ppl who support them like a daft
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well said all here, BUT the ISSUE is,
DO YOU WANT AN OPPOSITION OR NOT ?
any opposition will be fine, right ???
i’ll vote for ah meng anytime,as i know he won’t need millions in salary and screw tax payers funds.
should the gov wins, you can VERY WELL KISS your CPF GOODBYE !!!
PLUS YOUR FREEDOM, RIGHTS, EVERYTHING !!!
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@ Nonsense- the 1st three comments, you already hantam. What nonsense (irony, your choice of username) are you talking about moderating comments? Over here, the moderated comments come out quickly, in less than 10 minutes.
Over at theonlinecitizen, my moderated comments about the porky with the bunny teeth is still not out after 2 days, just because it is not about praising uglies.
Talk about censorship. Is something going on? Wah, you guys really feel threatened by KJ and RP, right?
How do some people ever sleep at night? How do they live with themselves?
What do they see when they look in the mirror? Ooops, in this case, not a nice pic. Literally. But nevermind. Bonus big enough already. Should quickly go to Dr Woffles Wu for a makeover. Or at least to the orthodontist. Then after that, get a gym membership at Fitness First. No point get so high bonus, do such good job, then look like a fat train wreck, wahahaha.
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@ Defennder:, in reply to Nonsense:
1. “You could be like TOC which doesn’t hold comments for moderation, but which actively deletes and unapproves comments when it goes against their agenda.”
2. “For all your claims that moderating comments runs against freedom of speech, have you ever had a comment which was not approved?”
Absolutely agree with you, Defennder. Hey, Nonsense: try harder, next time.
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@ Eaglefly.
Bro you hit the nail on the head!
Singaporeans wake up, dont be a pussy or arm chair critic.
We just need more oppositions in Parliment,thats al.
Nothing drastic will happen over night, unlike the PAP polices that can just be implemented over night without any impact analysis!
Right now we got lots of “extras” in parliment, is it doing you any good ?
Vote for any opposition, and not for the PAP!
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Since when are looks a factor in MP consideration?
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The couple can get 20-odd people to leave with them.
That’s KJ fear that he might be voted out as RP boss.
KJ has the ‘be PM, then SM, then MM’ mentality.
ANOTHER ELITE THAT ONLI WANT TO HOLD ON TO POWER.
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Someone email this to me……so I must share this with you.
Quote:
Undecided who to vote for, mark “[X]” on check list below:
Do you agree or disagree with these policies?
1> Open Floodgate to allow foreigners into Singapore…Agree[ ] Disagree[ ]
2> Close Floodgate, and yet, allows more to come in….Agree[ ] Disagree[ ]
3> 7%GST to be increased to 10% after this election….Agree[ ] Disagree[ ]
4> MPs Salaries to be increased by 20% – 35%………….Agree[ ] Disagree[ ]
5> No Minimum Wage for Lower Income Workers……….Agree[ ] Disagree[ ]
6> Water and Electricity Rates to be Increased………….Agree[ ] Disagree[ ]
7> MRT/Bus Fares to be increased after this election…..Agree[ ] Disagree[ ]
8> Jobs for more foreigners, NS for Singaporeans……….Agree[ ] Disagree[ ]
If you marked “Agree [X]” to all the above questions, you vote for PAP.
If you marked one or more “Disagree [X]“, you vote for opposition.
UNQUOTE:
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None other, the madcap who thinks CSJ, JBJ, lky, lhl, God, Allah, etc are his buddies. He who goes around teaching them what and how to do. There’s no hope for him, they’ll have to resort to electroconvulsive therapy on him. If that doesn’t work, I’m afraid they’ll have to put him away for good.
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2 theories, one is Tony & Hazel are moles. The 2nd theory is that they are Christian fundies just like the AWARE takeover incident.
Kenneth alluded to Tony & Hazel as Christian fundies though he did not say it outright in his Q&A with TR, refer back to that article. In that Q&A Kenneth highlighted that Tony & Hazel are very much into charitable acts. Big hint here what Christian fundies do with their evangelical activities, they love outreach & charity. Also, among all those who resigned, there could also be a large number of Chrisitian fundies too. It smacks too much of an AWARE takoever.
Back to 1st theory, how did Tony & Hazel know beforehand that the Electoral Boundaries Report will come out very very soon & both made the annoucement thru the press that they were resigning. Do you not think that their departure was timed so perfectly just before the Electoral Boundaries Report was released? Why not do it before like in December last year or early January this year? You have got to ask yourself why such beautiful synchronised timing.
Weigh both theories to see which one makes sense.
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WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND
got that?
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@Garrett — Amanda Jeyaretnam, is that you?
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@Garrett — Amanda Jeyaretnam, is that you?
If you’re not a S’pore citizen, you shouldn’t be interfering in local politics.
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The fabulous nine can actually join the N.S.P. to form an invincible team in Tampiness and Chiam See Tong can join the Reform Paty to form a formidable team in Bishan. People, you decide!
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If former scholars = rats, what about former policemen? This former policeman is the possible Malay candidate and waiting for the ‘vote’ into the RP’s CEC.
http://www.singsupplies.com/showthread.php?p=682081
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Very simple method to find out whether they are PAP moles.
A PAP mole will NEVER say anything sensible that will effectively attack, rebut and tarnish the reputation of its masters.
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The Straits Times has the luxury but the TR does not because the PAP is watching very carefully to pounce once a mistake is made.
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I don’t blame Muhd Effendy for taking the ang pow as he need it badly for his children welfare. But I do see what the two person was trying to do.Malays are not greedy people by nature and they always belief in “terhutang Budi” culture that I believed the two person took advantage for their own gains.
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Unsual MASS resignation ~ “differences of opinion”? or “Conspiracy”?
If they are moles tasked to infiltrate and stir up trouble. Should this act considered Criminal Offence?
Any involvement in accepting illegal gratification? or being allegedly threatened by others for the sabotage? All these questions arouse in public.
The mainstream media publicity stir up the “MASS resignation” as it was so serious that Public wont mere belief that it was just RP internal dispute. A criminal investigations should be carried out.
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How can I apply to be a mole? How much can one earn? Im desperately looking for a job now top feed my family. If becoming a mole can help my survival, why not?
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Every good thing has a cost. What you said is true. The difference is cost performance. You need high cost to keep ST up. When the whole world newspaper media bankrupt but ST still surviving must credit to its monopoly.
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btw, what has happened to the ratings system here – thumbs up / thumbs down, where we can vote for each commentator’s remarks?
Were you told to take it down? Some people don’t like the information it gives?
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Hanlon’s razor : “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.”
Tony Tan and the 20 people, are stupid to quit at an importune time and naive to reply to MSM. Both parties (the 20 and KJ) should also have discussed ways to minimise the impact but KJ chose to give a one-sided interview and press release which came back to bite him back in the ass.
All these basically says that they are inexperienced, not that they are bad or evil people. That’s all. Being a mole is the worse kind of evil act, bordering on traitorous activities. No one would like to be considered that.
(This is also why I don’t see them as “brains” despite their scholarly background) The kind of political accument only comes with experience.
Many people accused Low Thia Khiang and Chiam See Tong as stooges and moles. Now you know why they keep quiet. They are actually some of the best politicians in terms of “brains”. To fight cunning, you have to be cunning yourselves. Sadly, this is lacking in most of the opposition politicians, especially the new ones.
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sounds like people can’t take suggestion without personal attacks =)
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how can anyone be sure that no comments, whatver about, weren’y being taken off before? At the end of the day, there’s still no transparency.
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