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China returns detained Terrex AFVs to Singapore

China Foreign Affairs Minister Geng Shuang has reportedly confirmed today (28 Nov) that Beijing has given instruction to return the Terrex AFVs seized in Hong Kong back to Singapore.

At the press conference, Geng also warned Singapore to respect the “rule of law” and custom procedures in Hong Kong, and also more importantly the “One China” policy – suggesting that Singapore should stop all military ties with Taiwan.

We call on Singapore to act in accordance with the laws of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region in handling the matter.

We oppose any nations that have diplomatic ties with China to have contacts with Taiwan, including military relations.

On the same day, China state media, The Global Times, accused Singapore of being a hypocrite by maintaining military relationships with Taiwan and the United States, and in calling on China to give up it’s claim on the South China Sea.

Singapore was never a military ally of the US, but has given the green light to US military forces’ long-term presence at its Changi Naval Base as well as allowing US Navy Boeing P-8A Poseidon aircraft to operate out of its airbases. This has turned Singapore into a platform for Washington to contain and deter Beijing. Singapore claimed it was not picking sides in the South China Sea disputes, but its remarks about the issue are far from neutral; instead, it has actually complicated and expanded the scale of the case.

It should be expected that a small country like Singapore has its own tactics of survival in games of major powers. The country, which used to know its boundaries, is losing its balance now. Its measures to contain China are becoming obvious. The military equipment seized by Hong Kong authorities this time further adds to the suspicion that Singapore might be working against the “one China” principle.

The state media also accuses Singapore of aiding United States to “contain” China by allowing US forces to be stationed in its Changi Naval Base and that having military training exercises with Taiwan goes against the “One China” policy.

 

 

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101 Responses to “China returns detained Terrex AFVs to Singapore”

  • Evil Tyrant and PAP Terrr:

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Fxxk the Communist authoritarian China-man … Fxxk the eviI PAP !!!

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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  • Sharon Ann Gabriel:

    PM Lee has learnt a lesson. He must have issued a gag order. The ambassador to China kept mum. MINDEF was strangely silent. The MSM hardly utter a squeak. The deafening silence must have appeased China and so it let Singapore off with just a warning. China is being diplomatic by releasing the 9 Terrex AFVs. Singapore is no match for China.

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  • LION $ity:

    jialak oredy,XI JIN PIN NOT HAPPY iwh PM lee.
    Refused to shake hand.

    LKY took great pains to harness n nurture CHINA-SG RELATIONSHIP with MAO N DENG XIAO PING with the invaluable help of DR GOH KENG SWEE who assisted PRC with the coastal cities.

    now,all is gone,PM Lee needs to start all over again and imho,VB is not exactly the right person to go about doing this.

    maybe need to recall BOY GEORGE or send LAWRENCE WONG?

    china IS IMPORTANT N A MAJOR PLAYER IN THE NEW WORLD ECONOMY,even USA owes a trillion usd of indebtedness to giant PANDA.

    china CANNTO BE TRIFLED WITH or we will be left out in the cold whiule countries like peenoiseland n Malaysia enjoy good ties with PRC n surpass SG’s economic development.

    USA CANT HELP MUCH OR WOULD DO MUCH FOR SG,frankly,they are in disarray themselves and need to sort things out.

    betterer reconcile with giant PANDA before we get trampled cpmpletely FLAT OUT !

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  • Skh:

    in last 50 years, China has grown to become a bully. Abducting and holying hostage has become it’s tools. What a shame.

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  • opposition dude:

    China also likes to wayang it seems. As if they didn’t know we were conducting exercises in Taiwan for how many decades already? As if they didn’t know we were hosting the US’s ships at Changi for how long liao?

    This is a good warning shot fired verbally by them, won’t be surprised another batch of military vehicles gets cheong kong’ed by them. If they really wanted to make a statement they would have confiscated those vehicles and destrpyed them.. So good ah, let us off with a warning and telling us not to conduct exercises in Taiwan?

    PAP won’t listen and continue to do what they have done in Taiwan for decades until China takes drastic action.

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  • Monyet Hitam:

    Lee now has to eat humble pie, being nosy and talk too much, so stupid trying to flex puny muscles against a super power.
    The 70% vote for him in the little Red Dot emboldened him, Lee Junior thinks he could latch on his father’s name and talk like him to China on the same level.
    An embarrassing lesson learnt. Now he better gag himself up to avoid stepping on another superpower’s tail, Uncle Sam of America.

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  • TigerBeer:

    see I talk you

    China and Singapore want good relations

    just like husband and wife

    quarrel at bed top and sayang at bed rear

    nothing big problem

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  • C empty:

    I heard dat peple went in panda

    Costume and everything settled.

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  • Rooster:

    China has decided to move on as this episode involving the 9 Terrex AFVs is small matter. Not worth wasting time and effort. China gets angry only when PM Lee is in cahoot with the Americunts and Japs to undermine her core interests.

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  • Better Learn Quick:

    opposition dude:
    China also likes to wayang it seems. As if they didn’t know we were conducting exercises in Taiwan for how many decades already? As if they didn’t know we were hosting the US’s ships at Changi for how long liao?

    This is a good warning shot fired verbally by them, won’t be surprised another batch of military vehicles gets cheong kong’ed by them. If they really wanted to make a statement they would have confiscated those vehicles and destrpyed them.. So good ah, let us off with a warning and telling us not to conduct exercises in Taiwan?

    PAP won’t listen and continue to do what they have done in Taiwan for decades until China takes drastic action.

    This is a warning and to teach Sillypore a lesson. China has exhibited savvy political showmanship and giving Sillypore to mend bridge without burning it.
    This is an opportunity to improve relationship with China. Greedy Pinky better get the cue to return the relationship to normalization.

    Pinky should sack and change his foreign affairs think-tank.

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  • Fat MaMa:

    China is definitely bullying. The PAP government being its proxy is not enough. They want complete control. I wonder whether Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore regretted not making noise when a fully armed PLAN flortilla intruded into their water in 2014. This must be a lessonl learnt for neighbouring states about kowtowing to another hegemon.

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  • TKT:

    If anyone has been trawling youtube, there are many videos on this, China one belt one road policy, the malacca port and Johor port investment, to obsolete Singapore. china is fighting a soft war, based on economy, not soldiers. And they are winning- who says no to Money. Very smart. But unfortunately, We are caught in the cross fire, it’s a lot more complicated than before during the LKY or GCT days. Now Singapore cannot just play both sides like before, be neutral and prosper. It would take a Diplomatic Genius to do so in this climate.

    The rules of the game has changed. There was no South China sea issue in the past, the US was happy to invest in China, China was happy to take the Money, US had their allies in place in Asia. ASEAN was ASEAN. Singapore leads with US support in ASEAN, China never touched us. Now interest cross, i.e South China sea (=energy reserves = $ and resources = trouble) China is playing to win, and to do so, literally throws it money building up a new economic/political order in ASEAN that sways to China’s interest. We unfortunately, got in the way. If they are pulling off such a strategy, China has probably, and already identified us as their pain in the A_ _, for the obvious reason of the US naval presence, and second, of our top dog position in the region.

    Not an easy task. If Singapore leans to China, then there are too many strategic interest intertwined with the US. We cannot walk away either, we are not Duerte’s Philippines.

    This is serious, my friends, not a matter of patriotic or not patriotic.

    The key is issue is What is trump’s Asia Policy- how will Trump handle the S. China issue with China. Is he going to work with China? strike a deal? maintain the same? be hawkish? If Trump turns away from S. China and focuses on home ground US, or if he manages to strike a deal with China somehow, that relieves the pressure. China won’t see the US naval port in Singapore as such a threat, hopefully that opens up avenues for us with China. Like it or not, there is a new economic/politcal order in place in ASEAN, driven and directly, or indirectly, led by China, and we need that avenue with China, to be part of it, out of it, or how can we make use of it so that we remain relevant. We need to seriously think how are we going to negotiate our way through this.

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  • BuyMeBakKutTeh:

    China knows we been training militarily in Taiwan for too long.
    Now it caught us red handed and expose us bare bottom! Whoever did this logistics arrangement must be the dumbest ass and worse thinks he’s smart! LHL, now u know why many are not impressed with your paper generals turned politicians? Same goes to you!

    Faint la!

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  • hiatus hahahaha!:

    opposition dude:
    China also likes to wayang it seems. As if they didn’t know we were conducting exercises in Taiwan for how many decades already? As if they didn’t know we were hosting the US’s ships at Changi for how long liao?

    This is a good warning shot fired verbally by them, won’t be surprised another batch of military vehicles gets cheong kong’ed by them. If they really wanted to make a statement they would have confiscated those vehicles and destrpyed them.. So good ah, let us off with a warning and telling us not to conduct exercises in Taiwan?

    PAP won’t listen and continue to do what they have done in Taiwan for decades until China takes drastic action.

    It is like a wife who faithfully gets poked n now release all her tension on her spouse in 1 spat caused by TPP(well done! Trump).Now,assloong cannot do much as in Women Charter Act.Instead of focusing on the well-being of our ppl,he chose to tweak the constitution of EP to tighten his grip on power.
    Well-done,papa’son, is time for a malay PM.
    And be sure to keep the prc workers cuming n offer aid to whichever nation only u see fit.

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  • hiatus hahahaha!:

    TigerBeer:
    see I talk you

    China and Singapore want good relations

    just like husband and wife

    quarrel at bed top and sayang at bed rear

    nothing big problem

    Is not so simple.prc is accusing us of infidelity.So,cannot share bed, only 1 outcome – DIVORCE.

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  • In that case TKT:

    The “we” better now sooner determine who are the “we”, how “we” can all come together to be the “we”, and what is not part of this “we”.

    TKT: We unfortunately, got in the way. We need to seriously think how are we going to negotiate our way through this.

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  • SPOUSAL:

    TigerBeer:
    see I talk you

    China and Singapore want good relations

    just like husband and wife

    quarrel at bed top and sayang at bed rear

    nothing big problem

    Is not so simple.prc is accusing us of infidelity.So,cannot share bed, only 1 outcome – DIVORCE.

    China feel betrayed as in a spousal infidelity.Face-saving is what makes us chinese.Divorce is not an option.There is no bed to begin with.

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  • Never a PAP voter:

    Means more tax payers money will burn to transport military cargo from/to Taiwan, cause they not allowed to stopover HK for refuelling anymore.

    Singapore defence industry should just stop their wayang show as if we need to spend so much on military. The purpose of our military is just to have Paper Generals hold top posts in companies so PAP can take control of it and also to make our men subservient towards the authorities. We know PAP depends entirely the support of US and Israel for its military alliance. With US turning inwards for national security, and Singapore men jobless, what is PAP dreaming about thinking she is powerful enough to beat any other country. China won’t invade Singapore, but they will play around with this drunken old haggard toothless tiger, just for fun.

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  • flabbergasted:

    wonder cost how much?

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  • Ann:

    where are the pap ministers ? all so quiet ? cow boo wan where are you, say something leh,

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  • opposition dude:

    Better Learn Quick: This is a warning and to teach Sillypore a lesson. China has exhibited savvy political showmanship and giving Sillypore to mend bridge without burning it.
    This is an opportunity to improve relationship with China. Greedy Pinky better get the cue to return the relationship to normalization.

    Pinky should sack and change his foreign affairs think-tank.

    Our friend won’t learn lah, we all know that. Problem is that he has never ever been taught a proper lesson by anyone so naturally he thinks he can tell us and other countries on what we should do.

    You know the old saying lah, don’t see the coffin you won’t shed tears.

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  • The Arrogant Leader:

    Ah Long ah!, you think you can bully everyone in this earth, just because you are the highest paid leader on this earth? You can only bully your own citizens, and see what you got from China – A BIG SLAP, and more slaps coming.

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  • daftee:

    Skh: in last 50 years, China has grown to become a bully. Abducting and holying hostage has become it’s tools. What a shame.

    Your stupidity is congenital. Must be in the family.
    Oso a congenital liar.

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  • cock for you:

    Fat MaMa: China is definitely bullying. The PAP government being its proxy is not enough. They want complete control. I wonder whether Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore regretted not making noise when a fully armed PLAN flortilla intruded into their water in 2014. This must be a lessonl learnt for neighbouring states about kowtowing to another hegemon.

    Eh seow cha boh, drinking too much sperm is it? Your head now grogy with sperm floating everywhere cannot think straight yah?

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  • Half Past Six Tanks:

    China take one look at the Terrex tanks and think no point waste time and space in Hong Kong customs.
    Most probably the officials from Mindef had to Kow Tow 3 X in front of picture of Xi Jin Ping and repeat “A thousand apologies” a thousand times.
    Also promise to cancel military training contract with Taiwan.
    Then, give them a big bottle of Dettol for Pinky to wash his big mouth.

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  • Le Masturbatur:

    KISHORE BANI, like this how?
    Heng Chee not in?
    How about Chan Chun Sing?
    Can help not?

    Sg like this where got shiok?

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  • Clown Prince:

    A class act by China. Pinky got wacked and released. Time to wake up and face reality. Treat local dafts to your whims and fancy, sue to kingdom come. But at another level, you’re nothing. Don’t gamble with our lives.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Ann

    SOME TRE READERS like myself may have thought silly loudmouth partly-nudist cow have gone the way of “hara kiri” to TERN SUA already.

    Ann: where are the pap ministers ? all so quiet ? cow boo wan where are you, say something leh,

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  • billyma:

    Where are the loud mouth PAP big talkers??

    Hey why no PAP minister come out to talk big thus time?

    What happened to the ‘we’re the best so must be paid the best’ PAP self-declared cream of the crop ministers?

    Why? Is this what PAP ministers all about?
    Talk big only to Singaporeans but hide like a mouse when a real big gun points at you PAP big shots?

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  • Diplomacy:

    One would have thought with such a strong plp culture, diplomacy and how to get around maximising return would be a piece of cake. On the other hand, the “i do what I like” mentality of PAP in Singapore has become a second nature to the entire bureaucracy. That probably is the cause of loud mouth and extending the “i do what i like” mentality to outside Singapore. Young punk getting too rich too easily and too fast isn’t good for politics particularly in international dealings. The $10 chaitowkwei, aircon comfort with female waitresses, the $8 herat surgery including hospitalization, the “lynching mob” derogatory remark on netizens’ displeasure with the Brit scumbag Casey, the PAP MP defence of the ingrate Singapore scholarship PRC student, the public ‘ city not country’ statement of a legal trained minister, the intolerance and vicious treatment of a teenager critic, the opacity and the intolerance of speculative of what’re in the opacity, the deep plp culture and the ludicrous reward system masked as ” meritocracy” are evidences of the immaturity of the politically made multimillionaires men. In short men and women who cannot accept adverse criticism are suitable in public service! Obsession with statistical figures without consideration of the distribution in reality is the main reason of Trumpism and Brexit and many of the people movement ond migration which has hitherto been thought that the world has become smaller but in effect it is highly indicative of the failure of the national policies. China has orogressed tremendously with a much acclaimed fast increase of billionaires but hundreds of thousand of the PRC poor hve to venture out as manual workers to other countries leaving their families behind just because their own homeland are not giving their fair share of the economic gain. India is not far behind either. USA, Britain and other developed nations are showing the same defects in their national policies. USA has finally cracked grabbing hopefully any untried so untested source fir a better change and a more human distribution of wealth. Charity is only good if it provides comfort above the basic after the Government has fulfilled their role to provide the basics.
    China is flexing their muscle now but with a culture like what it has now widening the wealth gap, it is unconsciously retracking back the square one prior to the great Chinese revolution against the Manchu or to the days of landlords and slaves!

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  • oxygen:

    OUR MILITARY EXCHANGE/RELATIONSHIP with Taiwan is KNOWN to the whole world and PRC for over 40 years now. Why this belated FURY PROTEST expression now only?

    I guess the OBVIOUS not-so-subtle slap in the face is this:

    - shut your fiacking mouth on SCS when it is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS when yoU confessed your lack of territorial claims i.e. there is no dispute between us.

    - don’t lecture us on “rule of law” – just look at how you behave of “rule of law” application domestically and internationally

    - don’t tell us where our place is in political mapping – Middle Kingdom – is our choice of name when you are merely located at the ass end of the continent but we silent of your little awkward uncomfortable place.

    - our assessed stature on the global political stage is NOT decided by you or any other but we said nothing of Taiwanese degradation of your Pee Sai relevance in the world of politics and influence – we are at least discrete and respectful of you.

    FINALLY SHUT YOUR STUPID MOUTH and we can make peace and live in harmony with you and all.

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  • No respect for pappies:

    billyma:
    Where are the loud mouth PAP big talkers??

    Hey why no PAP minister come out to talk big thus time?

    What happened to the ‘we’re the best so must be paid the best’ PAP self-declared cream of the crop ministers?

    Why? Is this what PAP ministers all about?
    Talk big only to Singaporeans but hide like a mouse when a real big gun points at you PAP big shots?

    No respects from me for pappies . They are very good at bullying local thru blue citizens but when it comes to foreigners , leaders of other countries , they become tikus . If the old man were around , they will run crying to him . Whole bunch of jiak sai bo law yong .

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  • thebastardPAPparty:

    china is communist cum capitalist

    they are so screw up themselves

    dont talk about rule of law when they do not idea what sort of system have have

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  • N.Jungne:

    Sharon Ann Gabriel:
    PM Lee has learnt a lesson. He must have issued a gag order. The ambassador to China kept mum. MINDEF was strangely silent. The MSM hardly utter a squeak. The deafening silence must have appeased China and so it let Singapore off with just a warning. China is being diplomatic by releasing the 9 Terrex AFVs. Singapore is no match for China.

    Response: SInkapor must return favor by giving up training in Taiwan (a sore point). Ownself Punch ownself stupid.

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  • thebastardPAPparty:

    good reason singapore army cannot fight in battle or wars

    they do not know that these military equipment landed in HK which is part of china

    and we all know that taiwan and china are not in good relationship

    just imagine that you are in the singapore army transported to the front line
    and you dont know that your team landed on enemy Tertiary

    what a joke

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  • Sr Citizen:

    It is sufficient for the Middle Kingdom to now gloved its mailed fist. Your call now to ignore and irritate further.

    BTW..Have they stripped , x-rayed all parts and re-assembled and now these pre-xmas gifts ? Have you carelessly mishandled US sensitive military technologies ?

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  • Thinking loud:

    It’s strange this is not reported as huge headlines in the Straits Times.

    Again, fake news to con the sheep?

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  • Newkid:

    I’m not a fan of China. But what a magnanimous gesture on her part. Would SG do the same if things were reversed?

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  • bodohPM:

    This is not only a foreign affairs mishap; it is also a security disaster.

    PM should apologize not only to China, but also to Singaporeans. Foreign minister and defense minister should resign.

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  • Daft citizens forever:

    Thinking loud:
    It’s strange this is not reported as huge headlines in the Straits Times.

    Again, fake news to con the sheep?

    Pieces of olympic medals more importantest for the shit times, leh!

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  • SG Sovereignty:

    Why is China meddling with SG politics with Taiwan?

    I thought China has no juridiction over authoritarianism in other countries?

    So, does International Law help?

    Has SG’s Sovereignty come into question?

    Lets put Malaysia-Born KBW to the hot heat! Miracle Man! SMRT man! no fiascos!

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  • Einstein Lee:

    I have a Bright idea!
    Why not we send envoy Vivian to China to appease China by personally present himself before China and Apologise?

    We must maintain good friend relationships.

    But should KBW be a better choice since he is chinese and very gifted with talking nice?

    I hereby unreservedly apologise to China for this fiasco.

    Please forgive us!!

    Without China, sg maybe jia chao ah!
    Without USA, sg no future ah!

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  • Wake up:

    I think PM should cut down honewymooning with his wife and spend more time and attention on international affairs. Go holidays by all means but keep an eye and ear on where you go, just like how your papa and mama did.

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  • daft sinkies:

    Newkid: I’m not a fan of China. But what a magnanimous gesture on her part. Would SG do the same if things were reversed?

    If the other way, SG would demand an apology and then say sorry not enough, must also explain.

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  • MFA Vivian...:

    Singaporeans are staring at you; time to get down to real business.

    No more debates, this is the real!

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  • Hen:

    The tererrs were detained by Hongkee not for a single issue according to eye sergeant! I believe and this is not a speculation that it is for taking sides with Uncle Sam on the South China Sea.

    Other things added were Singapore has no right to have military relationship with Taiwan. In other words, Singapore should not go behind mother china to tackle Taiwan daughter! How would you react if you are the father? Huh?

    And off course, remember you can have pork soup and free smoke if you visit China spoken to an americano audience! And lastly, that you are not the Middle Kingdom? When you can’t get tpp?

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  • G39:

    Sharon Ann Gabriel:
    PM Lee has learnt a lesson. He must have issued a gag order. The ambassador to China kept mum. MINDEF was strangely silent. The MSM hardly utter a squeak. The deafening silence must have appeased China and so it let Singapore off with just a warning. China is being diplomatic by releasing the 9 Terrex AFVs. Singapore is no match for China.

    Will the PM learn? he is BEHOLDEN and clinging on to POWER created by the father who was TOTALLY beholden to US especially Kissinger for putting Singapore in the world map by creating an ILLUSION for the world to see and that is easily done in a LITTLE dot.
    What the US cannot control it Destroys or Disrupts after WW2

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  • PAPIGS NEED TO WAKE UP:

    Of course return lah, no new technology to study or copy, that PRC does not have but heck of a lot of diplomatic problems.

    Mindef needs to be very careful when shipping military hardware from Taiwan that ship should bypass HK! Any armoured exercise need to be conducted in Australia, Brunei or even NZ.

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  • Ann:

    Now is the best time to test the new citizens, pinoys, ah nehs and ah tiongs, if china and Singapore goes to war, mintdeaf shld send these ppl and see whether they will fight for us especially the ah tiongs, hahaha

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  • wtf:

    where is our shame mu gun who is so gung ho and legal expert? I tot he will be the first to comment when comes to law?

    the worst thing happened is how can ex longkung minister take the role foreign affair?

    what the fxxk is happening to our pinky’s head and his team thinking?

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  • Bebe:

    If only Xi ordered the Zhina new citizens in sinkapore to vote against the pappies then “ho say leaw”.
    Alternatively, the wp should cosy up with zhina to gain more votes.

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  • Babyboom:

    Yoyo Foreign Policy….No wonder Singapore is losing its edge.

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  • 法囯厨師:

    大陆外交部发言人耿爽称,中方要求新加坡严格遵守香港特区有关法律,配合香港特区
    政府做好后续处理工作。這是民显告訴新加坡,這事件依法处理.歸不歸还,視新加坡是
    否觸法而定,是否觸法則依香港法律程序來处理.這是我的解讀,中國並没有提到歸还被
    扣押的裝甲車.

    据悉以往两三年香港発生類似案件不下六十多起.犯案者多数处以港幣两百万元罸歀或
    坐牢两年,或两者兼施.

    這事件如果発生在世界任何地方,都会依当地的法律來处理,旣使発生在新加坡也不例外.

    這事件敎訓的意味很濃,最终结果如何,就要看新加坡政府的知慧了.讓我們拭目以待吧!

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  • eric see:

    Does MINDEF under the rules of shipping when does the carrier ever carry the responsibility to preparing the cargo manifest and declaration to the customs, it is the responsibility of the shipper to prepare for the declaration and all paperwork prior to shipping, in this case when things goes wrong, u shouldn’t blame APL as they are not paid to do your declaration but rather the shipper responsibility to seek clearance from all possible countries of transit, if you are not prepared to go thru the custom then shipped direct via Taiwan to SIN, if not get navy boats to go sail from Taiwan to SIN. Now when things go haywire, start to blame commercialization, if this is the cost saving model-outsourcing you are talking about, then prepared to take the risk!!! this is the commercial world of shipping, not your own rules of engagement!!!

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  • RULE OF LAW:

    High-and-mighty PAP gahmen are so used to behaving above the law in our country they think they can also behave similarly in other countries (like HK = China). Singaporeans, who have been the powerless targets/victims of their above-the-law behaviour, are glad to see a foreign power teaching them not to behave above the law.

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  • watcher:

    “nothing big problem’ !!!???? u are still dreaming!! Watch this and learn whats going to happen to our economy very soon!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2FCpyW6bIQ

    TigerBeer:
    see I talk you

    China and Singapore want good relations

    just like husband and wife

    quarrel at bed top and sayang at bed rear

    nothing big problem

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  • rukidding:

    Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa….!

    Small Boy “Balls” kenna “squeezed” !

    Belly good !

    Only know how to “Bully” own subjects…and “always thinks his “Balls” is Very BIG ?

    Spoiled Brad indeed !

    Lau Kui liow !

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  • rukidding:

    So buddy with Botak next door why cannot borrow and trained next door ?

    Now…who is “bluffing” who ?

    Must be you also have no real “brother” next door issit ?

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  • Not good:

    Singapore handles the issue in South China Sea when some Asean countries were not happy about China’s action there. Some of these countries suddenly become cosy with China and Singapore looks like a busybody. It is very hard to work with countries which do not stand firm on issues.

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  • hhh:

    I see this as a small problem if Singapore leaders have any diplomatic skills.

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  • an0n:

    谢主龙恩, 万岁 万岁 万万岁!

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  • solaris8899:

    who is at default in the beginning?
    will they admit they are wrong?
    we all know who they are.

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  • I Think:

    The triggers were:
    1) allowing the US Navy Poseidon flights from Singapore,
    2) Pinky pushing TPP to the detriment of China, and
    3) indirectly investigating China’s new best friend, Najib, over the 1MDB funny money.

    For all we know, Najib instigated this seizure.

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  • Looney diplomacy expert?:

    hhh:
    I see this as a small problem if Singapore leaders have any diplomatic skills.

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  • KNN:

    S’pore should just declare itself the 27th province of China, let 3 divisions of PLA motorized infantry division (45000 soldiers, 3000 infantry fighting vehicles, 1500 artillery) be based at Bt Gombak & P. Tekong and 10 Chinese submarines and 20 guided missile destroyers & cruisers to be based at Changi, plus another 500 jet fighters & bombers be based at Paya Lebar & Changi airport.

    Then Sinkies can be exempted from NS, or be made voluntary. And Sinkies can enjoy free medical, free Uni education, state pension & retirement at 55 yrs old. Plus freedom to live & retire anywhere in China. Can live like king in rural small towns on $400/month CPF Life.

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  • Vivo Balan Gan NI Lah osama:

    MFA Vivian...:
    Singaporeans are staring at you; time to get down to real business.

    No more debates, this is the real!

    I find the way VBala responded to the dragon slap worrying.

    I think he sounds stubborn.
    VBala, come here , I tell you, KNOW WHERE YOU STAND.
    YOU telling china how Chinese should treat friends?

    Half chinese he may be. But does he have the tactfulness to deal in the China Dragons den?

    Hope he don’t screw us up.

    I wish him happy bala and happy seasons holidays.
    Hope he run grow too many more white hairs as he enjoy his millions.

    Its about time he work on tough issue like this.
    Salary best in the world some more.

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  • 狠狠的干一下:

    I Think:
    The triggers were:
    1) allowing the US Navy Poseidon flights from Singapore,
    2) Pinky pushing TPP to the detriment of China, and
    3) indirectly investigating China’s new best friend, Najib, over the 1MDB funny money.

    For all we know, Najib instigated this seizure.

    Or maybe he said sg not chinese country or something like that kinda gaffe.
    Sometimes Chui tut land better.

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  • That's crafted political arts:

    China has flexed her muscle. She shrewdly adopted that ‘caught & release’ art to entrench in imbercile politicians the thought ‘grateful submission’. the late Le Sr tried it on Sinkies. It worked perfectly & suppressed deep inside him the devlish joy of his skill of enacting such an aged tried technique. But in his arrogant extremity twilight days, he could not contain his devilish joy of able to cow the populace to a zombic state any longer. He revealed his inner thoughts of his ardent supporter that they are talentless and daft. His devilish joy & arrogance extremeity broke thru the extremity to a new level which has influenced his dafter than the daft populace,i which at least 30% of them still preserve or recover their senses and their value as human, but negatively due to their nfg brain which has been much eroded by the ‘insatiable greed’ & nfi wayanging.
    With Vivian in the foreign play ground, it wouldn’t be long Sin PAP will become a laughing stock in foreign dealing as wide gab nfi rich neighbouring kids. The fingure pointing gorilla syndrome of paying billions and still remain happily cum gratefully ignorant.
    One former academic friend has predicted Brexit and triumphant Trump on the rational of the unruly globle
    migration which he thinks could not have been possible unless all the national governments have extreme greed to advance their own selves and their balls suckers. He further predicts that this is a political revolition wave that would swept thru the world except those countries whose government strive to ensure a respectable wealth distribution which means no one will slip from their standard norm but will rise proportionally with the national economic gain.
    PAP has a tight grip of the population and relentlessly suppress opposition political activities to least threat to their monopoly. It extends their suppression to citizen adverse critics and heightening opacity with leaks raising inevitable adverse soeculation. Supressing such speculation, deemed as what the Chinese Proverb, “kill the chicks to subdue the monkies”, is but perceived as admission. Could this lead to the reduction of the daft population and spread Trump phenomenon or TP ironically TPP minus P.
    Will MRT disruption, unbearable rising cost of living, medical & dental care, the slipping of the upper middle and lower income groups, mindless import of FTr adding stress and costs cum ministerial self gratifying greed, fear of admiting responsibility lead to SinTP?

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  • Sinistorical similarities:

    This incidence recalls two past incidences.

    One involvinf the downfall of PAP founding member & benefactor of late LKY in gaining party leadership, the late Dr Toh Chin Chye. The incidence involved a PRC vessel entering Singapore water without wanting to raise Singapore Flag, an international gesture of respect. This was during Mao era and Singapore non recognition of PRC so said to avoid insensitivity accusation and annoyance cum fear of the neighbours. The late Dr Toh was acting PM in the absence of late Lee. China was a rising military and economic power. For reason supposedly obvious on poltical and plp arena, Acting PM was consulted for guildance. For whatever reasons, the vessel sailed in with no SFlag. On his return,late PM flew into a rage on reason of natiomal depravity. Thence the political career of the founding member & benefactor continually & progressively declined first to VCNUS down to Santosa HCIG or dubbed by the inner circle as High Class Island Guard by founder circle, most dead or forgotten even by the current group of nfi CCPAP except when they die as a wayang sendiff!

    The second one involved the lare Arrogance Greed Extremo (AGE) dubbed by First Class PLP circle and unknown to the common people including the rest of PAPPLPs. This involved the official visit of Isreali PM or President. Neighbouring Governments raised their unhappiness thru their diplomatic channels that PAP was isensitive of its neighbour feeling as the Isrealis-Muslim Relationship possibly at its worst! Perhaps AGE, who was then MM and Goh SWcumM, was especially mentioned in the diplomatic displeasure, he claimed publicly that he was unaware of the visit. Being a MM, a very senior Cabinet member with his doted baby in the PM seat, even Singaporeans cannot comprehend such claim of ignorance. Some felt digusted. Some felt betrayed. Some possibly the early 30% felt ‘to be expected’. In other words, the national feeling was mixed with most tidak patty!

    It looked like Karma is acting in opacity all the time and opacity attracks opacity. ‘What will the next Sinistorical similarity in Sinpolitics and when’ could be rolling in fast with such C-zombies? what ya think?

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  • Lessons learnt:

    eric see: Does MINDEF under the rules of shipping when does the carrier ever carry the responsibility to preparing the cargo manifest and declaration to the customs, it is the responsibility of the shipper to prepare for the declaration and all paperwork prior to shipping, in this case when things goes wrong, u shouldn’t blame APL as they are not paid to do your declaration but rather the shipper responsibility to seek clearance from all possible countries of transit, if you are not prepared to go thru the custom then shipped direct via Taiwan to SIN, if not get navy boats to go sail from Taiwan to SIN. Now when things go haywire, start to blame commercialization, if this is the cost saving model-outsourcing you are talking about, then prepared to take the risk!!! this is the commercial world of shipping, not your own rules of engagement!!!

    The incidence highlight a few major problem:
    a. In economics, we learnt there a things that cannot be outsourced -defence, infrastructure…. We outsourced these transport to others and expect to also outsource responsibilities. Would we be having such problem if NOL is not sold out? Look around, so many other things have been outsourced or even sold. I am concerned about our country.
    b. I had not to long ago saw a video by Taiwan with the PRC authorities scolding Singapore. Does Mindef kept track of what is happening and so some kind of risk analysis on the transport of its equipment through the route? Our ministers and authorities need to wake up!

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  • Yibin:

    KNN:
    S’pore should just declare itself the 27th province of China, let 3 divisions of PLA motorized infantry division (45000 soldiers, 3000 infantry fighting vehicles, 1500 artillery) be based at Bt Gombak & P. Tekong and 10 Chinese submarines and 20 guided missile destroyers & cruisers to be based at Changi, plus another 500 jet fighters & bombers be based at Paya Lebar & Changi airport.

    Then Sinkies can be exempted from NS, or be made voluntary. And Sinkies can enjoy free medical, free Uni education, state pension & retirement at 55 yrs old. Plus freedom to live & retire anywhere in China. Can live like king in rural small towns on $400/month CPF Life.

    I like this one. I would retire in 宜宾 in 四川

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  • John Gajah:

    @KNN, @Yibin – I have no desire to visit China, let alone retire there.

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  • Ping Pong Pride:

    Without China , could sg have won the olumpic de Ping Pong?

    Will China melt the sg tanks?

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  • Punch Above Our Weight ?:

    Singapore leaders think they are very smart that they can punch above their weight. Now all of them mouth stuck with cock.

    If you are really neutral the best way is to not pass any comment or opinion as it is none of Singapore business. Then you will not antagonise the Chinese. Please for heaven sake don’t assume the Chinese leaders are stupid.

    We are a very tiny red dot so don’t try to act smart.

    It seems Malaysia and the Philippines have leaders who have high EQ and common sense.

    PAP leaders are only good at bullying and suppressing the local citizens because the locals have not woken up yet.

    Vivian is like a small kid that cannot handle the Giant Panda.

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  • 痩爸爸:

    Fat MaMa:
    China is definitely bullying. The PAP government being its proxy is not enough. They want complete control. I wonder whether Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore regretted not making noise when a fully armed PLAN flortilla intruded into their water in 2014. This must be a lessonl learnt for neighbouring states about kowtowing to another hegemon.

    看事情要客觀,不要太政治化.這种事情如果発生在新加坡的話,照样会被扣押,
    按新加坡法律來处理.這事件充份説明了一件事,就是新加坡囯防部的上層將軍
    不知底下軍官和士兵在幹什么,這才是此事件之根源.必須要馬上改正才是当務
    之急,否則整个囯家的軍備被賣掉还蒙在鼓裡.

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  • 法国蜗牛:

    抵达香港之前,这批裝甲車已经途中在厦门停留,而且还是厦门海关先发现而后通知香港.怎么厦门没处理? 难道是”民显”的无法? 无能? 无良? 无天?

    是蜗牛还是厨師, “知慧”还是智慧, 拭目以待吧!

    法囯厨師:
    大陆外交部发言人耿爽称,中方要求新加坡严格遵守香港特区有关法律,配合香港特区
    政府做好后续处理工作。這是民显告訴新加坡,這事件依法处理.歸不歸还,視新加坡是
    否觸法而定,是否觸法則依香港法律程序來处理.這是我的解讀,

    這事件敎訓的意味很濃,最终结果如何,就要看新加坡政府的知慧了.讓我們拭目以待吧!

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  • It's All In The Air!:

    Why our Pea Man don’t joke anymore about Big Brother? Come on….we all look forward to the stupid jokes to confirm what we all know abt his arrogance and stupidity.

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  • ali baba:

    Bully and fix sinkies is easy. Head so swollen until damaged. Do the same with big panda, get a taste of the cane. Wither cpf?

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  • Bebe:

    Since the d.son has maxed out his ideas to steer Singapore, why don’t he sell Singapore to zhina; one of his paper general did that to NOL.
    He runs Singapore like a business with no compassion to its people; at least the zhina gov is better, free healthcare, early retirement, resource rich,etc.
    Thus, all the problems that he created will be solved.
    Just a thought, lol

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  • HARRY_FROM_THE_GRAVE:

    LION $ity:
    jialak oredy,XI JIN PIN NOT HAPPY iwh PM lee.
    Refused to shake hand.

    LKY took great pains to harness n nurture CHINA-SG RELATIONSHIP with MAO N DENG XIAO PING with the invaluable help of DR GOH KENG SWEE who assisted PRC with the coastal cities.

    now,all is gone,PM Lee needs to start all over again and imho,VB is not exactly the right person to go about doing this.

    maybe need to recall BOY GEORGE or send LAWRENCE WONG?

    china IS IMPORTANT N A MAJOR PLAYER IN THE NEW WORLD ECONOMY,even USA owes a trillion usd of indebtedness to giant PANDA.

    china CANNTO BE TRIFLED WITH or we will be left out in the cold whiule countries like peenoiseland n Malaysia enjoy good ties with PRC n surpass SG’s economic development.

    USA CANT HELP MUCH OR WOULD DO MUCH FOR SG,frankly,they are in disarray themselves and need to sort things out.

    betterer reconcile with giant PANDA before we get trampled cpmpletely FLAT OUT !

    EXACTLY IT would be very diffcult the gain the level of reptuation which we had…..GIVEN THAT MALAYSIA,INDONEISA,THAILAND…AND NOW EVEN PHIPPHINES HAVE GOOD RELATIONSHIP…….THE Volume of trade between malaysia is more higher than singapore,making them 7th largest trading partner of china…

    —NOW AMERICANS ARE HERE with their spy-craf….YOU HAVE INVITED TO BE HERE…YOU CAN’T JUST CHASE THEM AWAY…WE ARE bounded by treaty ,as well now we have to relay on usa’s goodwill…..WE ARE NOW AMERICAN’S BITCH…
    LKY has always cherished his independance and remained neutral…….

    …CHINA WILL MOST LIKELY WILL LOOK AT SINGAPORE WITH SUSPION…….IT MEANS….MORE GOOD NEWS FOR MALAYSIA….THEY HAVE MORE INVESTMENTS AND MORE CHINA MADE MILTARY HARDAWARE……THIS IS WHAT YOU CALLL…..PINKLY FARKED HIMSELF

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  • Eagol:

    Unfortunately I have to say Singapore leadership is losing it’s mind. Obviously the leader still dunno Xi’s ruling style after he has been in power for quite a few years. The worst mistake is to allow the US forces to expanding it’s use of Singapore’s military bases freely. It just equivalent to put someone’s knife at China’s throat WITHOUT knowing how many Chinese vessels using and giving business to it’s ports and contributing to it’s GDP. Well, if this is not the case, do you think China will spend so much effort to build ports in Malacca and Gwadar, or even a canal in Thailand? One fact you have to know clearly, Chinese capability in infrastructure technology is hardly match by other countries nowadays, they built a 1300 kms HS rail from BJ to SH in merely 5 years (I tried it myself, whole journey took approx. 5 hrs and on time to less than 2 mins), while the Taiwanese spent 20 years to build a 50+ kms LRT from Taoyuan Airport to Taipei and still in it’s testing stage. To me the CCP is evolving, just like the famous HK figure James Wong said “I didn’t change my stance, but the CCP did” after he was challenged by some supporters accusing he has been too friendly to China. Its the Singapore leader’s choice to keep on disliking the Chinese, but on the national economy interest, it is not wise to do something to keep on triggering opposition against them.

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  • Lee Kim Chew:

    “China returns detained Terrex AFVs to Singapore”: 28 Nov, 2016.

    Headline misleading leh. Four days later – today Dec 1 – the tanks are still in Hong Kong. Better editing/editors needed, I’m sure.

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  • exSG:

    I seriously hope China does not return the APCs and instead melt them down for metal

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  • Boh Bian Solves all:

    Lee Kim Chew:
    “China returns detained Terrex AFVs to Singapore”: 28 Nov, 2016.

    Headline misleading leh. Four days later – today Dec 1 – the tanks are still in Hong Kong. Better editing/editors needed, I’m sure.

    Boh Bian lah. We must downplay this and pray this too will pass

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  • 法国蜗牛:

    看事情也应要清醒.事発厦门在先,反而后指使香港来”法律來处理”.是上層还是底下在幹什么,才是此事件之根源.葫芦里卖的什么药物?才是当務之急.否則整个囯家被”賣掉”还蒙在鼓裡.

    痩爸爸: 看事情要客觀,不要太政治化.這种事情如果発生在新加坡的話,照样会被扣押,
    按新加坡法律來处理.這事件充份説明了一件事,就是新加坡囯防部的上層將軍
    不知底下軍官和士兵在幹什么,這才是此事件之根源.必須要馬上改正才是当務
    之急,否則整个囯家的軍備被賣掉还蒙在鼓裡.

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  • Bully:

    “China Foreign Affairs Minister Geng Shuang has confirmed today (28 Nov) that Beijing has given instruction to return the Terrex AFVs seized in Hong Kong back to Singapore.”

    What a bully and one that don’t honour their words. To the extent trying to claim islands in south china sea as theirs and reclaiming land in south china seas. What big power. I had no respect of this bully. Likewise like my many relatives in their land that were so ungrateful and greedy to try to squeeze as much as possible claiming on the reason that they are our relatives. Disgusting bully like their own citizens – Yin Yang,.. and the whole lot too of the same kind!

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  • 法囯厨師:

    法国蜗牛:
    抵达香港之前,这批裝甲車已经途中在厦门停留,而且还是厦门海关先发现而后通知香港.怎么厦门没处理? 难道是”民显”的无法? 无能? 无良? 无天?

    是蜗牛还是厨師, “知慧”还是智慧, 拭目以待吧!

    是智慧不是知慧,謝謝,受敎.

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  • Dedf:

    John Gajah:
    @KNN, @Yibin – I have no desire to visit China, let alone retire there.

    Because no Ang moh d?!k there for you?

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  • Dumb:

    In the past Mindef budget is to help GLC companies.
    NOL solely in charge of shipment. Money was transferred from PUBLIC to PRIVATE
    while TH and GIC looks great.
    Now, NOL was sold.
    Keep on increasing MINDEF budget to benefit APL muz rethink.
    Total plain stupidity of Ah Long is another case showing he has
    put up a WRONG INDIAN for the WRONG job,
    Burn YOG budget and can keep inreasing profolio, Only idiots do it.

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  • Head Something Wrong:

    Something wrong with sinkies head. The more PAP screws up, the more votes they will get, at this rate, next election 80%.

    Dumb:
    In the past Mindef budget is to help GLC companies.
    NOL solely in charge of shipment. Money was transferred from PUBLIC to PRIVATE
    while TH and GIC looks great.
    Now, NOL was sold.
    Keep on increasing MINDEF budget to benefit APL muz rethink.
    Total plain stupidity of Ah Long is another case showing he has
    put up a WRONG INDIAN for the WRONG job,
    Burn YOG budget and can keep inreasing profolio, Only idiots do it.

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  • 西北杜南:

    中国做这鸟事乃一石多鸟:
    1)教训新加坡不知自量,大嘴巴。
    2)赶绝台湾的外交。
    3)间接告诉东南亚各国,事情若要发生,美国帮不上你们什么。
    4)告诉日韓跟我乖乖的。

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  • wong win:

    Hope in the future lhl wont simply open his big mouth

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  • Dinners are just dinners:

    TKT: If anyone has been trawling youtube, there are many videos on this, China one belt one road policy, the malacca port and Johor port investment, to obsolete Singapore. china is fighting a soft war, based on economy, not soldiers. And they are winning- who says no to Money. Very smart. But unfortunately, We are caught in the cross fire, it’s a lot more complicated than before during the LKY or GCT days. Now Singapore cannot just play both sides like before, be neutral and prosper. It would take a Diplomatic Genius to do so in this climate.The rules of the game has changed. There was no South China sea issue in the past, the US was happy to invest in China, China was happy to take the Money, US had their allies in place in Asia. ASEAN was ASEAN. Singapore leads with US support in ASEAN, China never touched us. Now interest cross, i.e South China sea (=energy reserves = $ and resources = trouble) China is playing to win, and to do so, literally throws it money building up a new economic/political order in ASEAN that sways to China’s interest. We unfortunately, got in the way. If they are pulling off such a strategy, China has probably, and already identified us as their pain in the A_ _, for the obvious reason of the US naval presence, and second, of our top dog position in the region.Not an easy task. If Singapore leans to China, then there are too many strategic interest intertwined with the US. We cannot walk away either, we are not Duerte’s Philippines. This is serious, my friends, not a matter of patriotic or not patriotic. The key is issue is What is trump’s Asia Policy- how will Trump handle the S. China issue with China. Is he going to work with China? strike a deal? maintain the same? be hawkish? If Trump turns away from S. China and focuses on home ground US, or if he manages to strike a deal with China somehow, that relieves the pressure. China won’t see the US naval port in Singapore as such a threat, hopefully that opens up avenues for us with China. Like it or not, there is a new economic/politcal order in place in ASEAN, driven and directly, or indirectly, led by China, and we need that avenue with China, to be part of it, out of it, or how can we make use of it so that we remain relevant. We need to seriously think how are we going to negotiate our way through this.

    Trump is pure transactional biz.

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  • PRC Games:

    The crap that PRC spews is ludicrous.

    Sinkieland is a sovereign nation and has a right to permit USA to station their navy here. What are we talking about 2 or 3 Littoral ships? Wow these 3 ships can destroy the whole PRC! Stand firm Singapore on this.

    Just because PRC produce a 1940 map with red line drawn, the whole of South China Sea belongs to PRC. In fact Japan should be claiming South China Sea as their own since PRC was Japan’s territory in the early to mid 40′s. The Brits should have an even earlier claim since their territory extended from Sabah to HK. The French should claim their stake when Vietnam was their colony.

    We shall see how Trump will deal with PRC locusts in the first, second or third quarter of 2017. Not too much of a noise was made over Taiwan’s President congratulatory call to Trump. Why?
    1) Trade deficit amounting to US500 Billion annually in favour of PRC. A lot of PRC locusts will be out of jobs if this deficit was eliminated. How many Tienanmen can PRC afford especially with western provinces radicalizing?
    2) Possibility of Trump cozying to Putin will put some problems to the unholy alliance of Russia/PRC
    3) Can predict that Trump will make demands in his negotiations, that PRC rein in N Korea. The use of N Korea to threaten S Korea, Japan and USA, whilst PRC was given peace, space and time to consolidate their expansionist intentions over South China Seas was an effective tactic. Any person realises that the technology between Missiles and Nuclear are day/night apart and N Korea is able to achieve 2 different technologies can only be done through technology transfer from Russia or PRC?

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  • Calvin Nam:

    Seriously guys..
    When I heard the news of China doing it to Singapore, I was dumbfounded..
    My first question is WHY??
    Singapore is not an enemy to China.. there is little or almost nothing there, why China resort to this action??
    It can’t be because of a comment LHL made..
    It’s weird.. and why is China give so much crap about a small country like Singapore.. is there even any source of problems to amount to, to even give two hoots about??
    What is the relationship between Singapore and China all these years?? Has there been any issues?? We talk about China flexing their muscles.. but yes, it’s understandable why they flex against Japan (WW2 issues), why they flex against Taiwan (Civil war issues), why they flex in SCS (Money)… but with Singapore??? What is this about??
    It’s like punching a friend for absolutely no freaking reason..
    It’s a move detrimental to China.. and serves exactly little purpose..

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  • real daft:

    Calvin Nam: Seriously guys..When I heard the news of China doing it to Singapore, I was dumbfounded..My first question is WHY??Singapore is not an enemy to China.. there is little or almost nothing there, why China resort to this action??It can’t be because of a comment LHL made..It’s weird.. and why is China give so much crap about a small country like Singapore.. is there even any source of problems to amount to, to even give two hoots about??What is the relationship between Singapore and China all these years?? Has there been any issues?? We talk about China flexing their muscles.. but yes, it’s understandable why they flex against Japan (WW2 issues), why they flex against Taiwan (Civil war issues), why they flex in SCS (Money)… but with Singapore??? What is this about??It’s like punching a friend for absolutely no freaking reason..It’s a move detrimental to China.. and serves exactly little purpose..

    You from Mars, or another daft sinkie that did not read the news or in a state of denial?

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  • SillyMe:

    Just reading Wikileaks will tell you that the current government are a bunch of white worshippers who goes around gossiping to their Caucasian “friends” about their Asian neighbours:-

    Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew, who allegedly described North Koreans as ‘psychopathic types’ ruled by a ‘flabby old chap who prances around stadiums seeking adulation.’

    Then, it was reported last Sunday that Ex-Minister of Foreign Affairs and Permanent Secretary Peter Ho told a US official in March 2008 that Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak is an opportunist. Another MFA permanent secretary, Bilahari Kausikan, reportedly told US Deputy Secretary of Defence for South-east Asia David Sedney the same year that ousted Thailand leader Thaksin Shinawatra is ‘corrupt’, along with ‘everyone else, including the opposition.’

    Singaporean intelligence officials also allegedly told the Australian government that Malaysia’s opposition leader, Anwar Ibrahim, is indeed guilty of sodomy in the case that he has been charged in. They apparently reached this conclusion based on intercepted ‘technical intelligence’ from Malaysia.

    Another senior diplomat, Tommy Koh, described Japan as ‘the big fat loser’ as China’s relationship with ASEAN continues to improve. He blamed Japan’s ‘stupidity, bad leadership, and lack of vision.’ As if that wasn’t insulting enough, he called India ‘stupid’ for being ‘half-in, half-out’ of ASEAN.

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  • Clown:

    Dad built, son destroy.

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  • china needs the world:

    China needs the world as much as the world needs china – Dr Ng

    China needs other countries to help grow its economy. So china cannot be proud.

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  • Does not make sense:

    Our army are training to protect people including thousands and thousands of Chinese living in Singapore. Why seize our weapons that protect their people?

    Also if China treats Taiwanese as their own people, what they are doing like isolating Taiwan from the rest of the world counters their belief that they treat Chinese in Taiwan as family.

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