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Has Singapore become too arrogant on the international stage for its own good?

PM Lee and his ministers should come to their senses and realise that conducting foreign relations is not a simple task. It is a vicious world out there where miscalculations and arrogance can lead to unpleasantness or even severe hardship and disaster for the people.

As I can see it you have miscalculated big time. You had relied too much on a Clinton victory. You had thought that the US would always be on your side, in appreciation to your alignment in its larger agenda to contain the rise of China.

Your dream could turn out to be a nightmare after Donald Trump threw a spanner in the works. You had not expected this and there was no plan B.

Nearer to home you also had not expected China, which has now overtaken the US as the world’s number one economy, would start to flex its muscles at you. Statements like “this is not the first time that the vessel had stopped over at Chinese ports” seem too childish.

You were taking China for granted, thinking that they were fools and not offended by numerous foolish statements against them. You also thought that they would take it lying down your perceived alignment with the US to contain their rise.

In short you were slumbering even though the signs of China getting agitated could be easily detected by avid observers. Your MFA and MID guys blundered.

Though many have started to put the blame on the invisible foreign minister, I feel that the PM shares a bigger blame for making all the wrong moves and for uttering silly statements. The highly publicised red carpet reception by Obama may have got into his head.

As things stand now we are clueless as to how the Trump administration would conduct itself. The President elect is so unpredictable. At the same time China has charted a new course in its treating with us. The long standing military training arrangement with Taiwan, which it had hitherto never even commented on, has now become an irritation.

How many friends can we afford to lose in this inter-connected world? Can we afford a fall out with friends in our own neighbourhood in this trying times? Have we become too arrogant for our own good?

Mohamed Jufrie Bin Mahmood

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47 Responses to “Has Singapore become too arrogant on the international stage for its own good?”

  • PAP Contempt of Citizens:

    I remember clearly how Shan, A CITY DWELLER arrogantly ABLY rebuked the Indonesians ABOUT HOW TO CLEAR WILD LAND FOR PLANTATION.

    You believe, a city dweller, so called adulterous politician, teaching others on AGRICULTURAL habits?

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  • Anti PAP pro Nationalist SG.:

    The SIP debacle some 10 years ago apparently no lesson enough to teach the PAP.

    Surprising enough it did not alert the PAP to China’s guile.

    Strange a country of dynasties and dynasties from Song, to Ming over 1000s of years, taken so blooody lightly by the take for granted PAP.

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  • Sharon Ann Gabriel:

    PM Lee fumbles, stumbles and gropes like a blind man without his dad. He gambled on the much vaunted TPP and lost. He sided with Uncle Sam over the SCS saga and lost when Uncle Sam was unable to enforce the PCA’s ruling. China is now basking in its reiterated geopolitical glow while PM Lee’s arrogance has proven to be detrimental to Singapore’s well-being. PM Lee’s myopic thinking will be the cause of Singapore’s downfall.

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  • N.Jungne:

    After 50 years the PAP becomes very proud of themselves, especially the eye-Doctor, the ShamLaw and a few women. Happy to watch their downfall and run road later.

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  • 王爷撑腰:

    Last time, got USA backing.
    Now is Trump.

    Then in an earlier episode, XJP pissed.

    I think ho say liao.

    Maybe Shamu can be effective legal counsel for this fiasco?
    But then he need google translate to mandarin.

    I now watching porn.

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  • POWER corrupt mind:

    When one become so rich and got power, he is likely to be corrupted in his mind. Somehow arrogrant set in and more greediness within the families and their kakis.
    Thinking no one is above law, they set themselves what seem only right for them. Making faults on others rather than sharing thoughts.
    That how our G has become for many years. Yet alot of dafts fall for it!
    Time will come when citizens start to suffers and fts will relieased that this country is not what they seem to be. Then many will go back to their country and this small dot will suffer more but not the G personel as they have amass their fortune through the suffering of the citizens. Gaining their wealth through people suffering shall have their karma one day in future!

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  • Fat MaMa:

    When any government becomes too arrogant for its own good, it is always the people who suffer. So, don’t think that only the PAP lost face in this HK debacle. Singaporeans have more to lose than the PAP for we are the ones who have to clean up and pay for their mess.

    On the other hand, as China seeks domination and bullies smaller states into submission, chinese all over the world will be subjected to discrimination and hate. If this is what they want, they will get it sooner than later and in larger dose than thought. Little wonder they have to spout the propaganda that Beijing will protect all chinese (in their bloodline) because they are part of the Chinese arrogance and their blind revenge against the world for their one century of humiliation.

    Has anyone learnt from the American hegemony and the world’s response to them? No. Leaders and governments around the world are obsessed with setting trends not learning, ruling not governing, dominating not partnering, while the people just go with whatever their government have constructed for them be it nationalism, economic expansionism, military intervention,etc etc. Leaders and their governments come and go but the people are the ones left to pay the price for all their mess.

    I only hope more people can see world politics from the ground up perspective than just about leaders.

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  • Daily Shame:

    Our so-called leaders are either in denial or don’t realize that unlike some of their predecessors, they are simply nothing on the international stage. Just because they pay themselves $millions, they thought they are special and ranked up there. They are too shameless to realize that they are a source of our embarrassment rather than pride. Unfortunately, the man who forced down our throat the million$ payment and for whom we should hold accountable is dead.

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  • Marine Le Pen National Front:

    this is not arrogant, Singapore had to be fierce, otherwise we will be bully by China, bully by USA

    This is the new Singaporean behavior, our new trend

    You want good counter service (please don’t used abusive language to our staffs)

    Uncle: you see how these Mainland Chinese cut queue, the counter service don’t tell them to proper behave themselves.

    Ah Boy:” must 装出愤怒的脸, COUNTER SERVICE THEN 害怕.

    Uncle:” Ah Boy, that is not good enough, showing a black angry face, you need to 折叠你的手臂, fold both your arms to your chest.

    Ah Boy:” counter service, your fingers so short, you can type very fast meh? why your fingers born so short?

    Counter service:” Angry Stared, give that “杀气眼睛”

    Ah Boy:” look Uncle, this Pinoy, give us that deadly eyes look. Quick put one of your leg on the chair, one hand on the wall, the other hand put inside the pocket, this arrogant posture, will frustrate that counter service even more.

    Uncle:” don’t need, just say Who is your manage, I want to see your manager. Place your both hands behind your head, behave like his Towkay. Young man, this arrogant posture, will frustrate even more.

    Manger:” What seem to be the problem?”

    Uncle:” your counter service staff 什么态度…, I will write to the social media complain you guys, go you tube post video”

    Ah Boy:”跟他凶,他就害怕了

    Uncle:” 我装凶,还可以吧. 这种就要对他凶

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  • 张爷爷:

    哎,新加坡的处境实在令人担扰,

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  • LIONS:

    The ability of LKY to hold his own on world stage is something lacking in our ministers.
    So,it is better for us not to be seen as kaypoh or even how lian.

    We cam approach diplomacy more diplomatically; we must ensure the sg assigned to the FM post is well suited and worldly-wise n not thinking like how they can behave towards sgs from their ivory towers?

    You can act artogantly towards us at “home” but outsiders may not want to take uour nonsense.

    HUMILITY IS THE WAY TO BETTER DIPLOMACY.

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  • Hhh:

    Look at how Sinkies behave overseas?

    Look at how ministers behave in parliament?

    You not convinced?

    LOL

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  • colony:

    One day, all the foreign talents from China who became citizens will form a party and take control of the government. Then Singapore is going to become a colony of China. After all, Zheng He came to Singapore before Raffles, so it can be claimed that once upon a time, Temasek was part of China.

    So, don’t play play, Mr Lee.

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  • Looney misbehaving:

    Hhh:
    Look at how Sinkies behave overseas?

    Look at how ministers behave in parliament?

    You not convinced?

    LOL

    Look at how looney behave at the park?

    You not convinced?

    LOL

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  • Be REAL, don't wayang:

    Daily Shame:
    Our so-called leaders are either in denial or don’t realize that unlike some of their predecessors, they are simply nothing on the international stage. Just because they pay themselves $millions, they thought they are special and ranked up there. They are too shameless to realize that they are a source of our embarrassment rather than pride. Unfortunately, the man who forced down our throat the million$ payment and for whom we should hold accountable is dead.

    Hahaha… some idiotic miw even put up a ludicrous argument that paying them humongous $million, their overseas counterparts will then respect and look up at them.

    Warped pappy logic

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  • Stink Bean:

    @ Hhh

    Oh yeah talk about how your PRC behave overseas, shit where and when as they pleased.

    Talk so loud like the world cannot hear him.

    A man of caliber , a PRC professor can argued with a cabby driver over some sup sup sui tips.

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  • thebastardPAPparty:

    the son has not IQ

    if he have it
    he would have set up his own political party

    but he give all sort of excuses and reason not to do so

    that prove he is not a great leader

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  • Where is woody?:

    How come Extraordinary Senior Minister so quiet? Thot he has lots of guanxi with big bro.

    Or is it Extremely Senile Man oredi?

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  • 星光:

    SG has mighty soldiers no country would laugh at.
    Our Soldiers are Thinking soldiers. Spectacles and all.

    Soldiers! Get ready to Defend!

    No one runs away! Great!

    Taxi, i need to visit the airport now…

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  • Malaysian Friends:

    The lighter side of it. As China start to show who the boss, and invest more in Malaysia. We will see more and more 70% of the voting Malaysians, start to go back to Malaysia, and true blue Singaporeans can finally vote for a proper government. But by then, our relations with close by neighbors and China will be non-existence. Hopefully there be something left to regain their friendship.

    Singapore was called the red dot, but the red still is an apparent sight, known to all. In time, we will not be call the red dot, but a tiny speck of dirt on the world map. An irritant arrogant child, that should just shut up and stop acting so smart. Just be grateful that no one wants to bother us.

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  • Prostitutes of Fallacy Studies:

    Can SG survive 2017 without LK.Y ?
    The politically correct answer, is YES!!!

    Kiss Whore Malu Barnie

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  • sperm in the head:

    ‘Fat MaMa:
    November 29, 2016 at 12:31 pm Fat MaMa(Quote)
    When any government becomes too arrogant for its own good, it is always the people who suffer. So, don’t think that only the PAP lost face in this HK debacle. Singaporeans have more to lose than the PAP for we are the ones who have to clean up and pay for their mess.

    On the other hand, as China seeks domination and bullies smaller states into submission, chinese all over the world will be subjected to discrimination and hate. If this is what they want, they will get it sooner than later and in larger dose than thought. Little wonder they have to spout the propaganda that Beijing will protect all chinese (in their bloodline) because they are part of the Chinese arrogance and their blind revenge against the world for their one century of humiliation.’

    Seow cha boh, still so much sperm in the head. The Chinese have been discriminated and hated for 2 centuries because China was weak. Only head full of sperm can’t think clearly will insist that China seeks domination and bullying small countries. Can’t see a small country like Singapore bullying China? When China is strong, see whether Chinese will be discriminated and hated again. The Europeans are laying the red carpets to welcome them, hiring Chinese policemen to protect them in Europe.

    You go and wipe the sperm off your eyes and see the real world.

    Want me to pee into your sperm head? Maybe that would remove the sperm and fill it with urine, much clearer and less sticky.

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  • Chris:

    Singapore and her people not arrogant but that particular one and its kakias are. I am who I am…… the pi m and me no link.

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  • SG needs badly a reboot:

    PRC is known to be uncouth, that’s for sure.

    But if you ask other Nationalities about Sinkies behaving overseas:

    - arrogant
    - cheapskate, bargain till bones

    We cannot be too emotional but reflect, I see many SG tourists making so much crap over trivial issues when I tour. They of course are not as bad as PRC, that i agree.

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  • Chris:

    Daily Shame:
    Our so-called leaders are either in denial or don’t realize that unlike some of their predecessors, they are simply nothing on the international stage. Just because they pay themselves $millions, they thought they are special and ranked up there. They are too shameless to realize that they are a source of our embarrassment rather than pride. Unfortunately, the man who forced down our throat the million$ payment and for whom we should hold accountable is dead.

    Well said. These sickos are shallow and empty shelves, nothing good to contribute to the country instead sponge on the country and us to earn their undeserved overpaid highest politicians salary. Really it is a pinch that our hard earned $ is used to pay them.

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  • Dafts Will Be Dafts:

    Be REAL, don't wayang: Hahaha… some idiotic miw even put up a ludicrous argument that paying them humongous $million, their overseas counterparts will then respect and look up at them.

    Warped pappy logic

    They uttered rubbish and lied to cheat you of millions and 70% of you believed.

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  • The Worst Is Yet Be:

    In short, sinkies are fucked for the next 5 years, all because of the 70% goondu and the greedy evil familee.

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  • No Hope:

    Arrogance of PAP is a life-threatening disease which is incurable. From the grassroots level up to the PM, they think they are God’s gifts to mankind. What a conceited lot, only good at talking down to others, condescending, smart-alecky, not realising that they lack substance. People who are self-assured and capable tend to be humble. It is the half-baked and insecure who need to exert their influence unduly. What a bunch of insecure, incapable and arrogant lot, which includes the PM, Vivian, Grace, Josephine, Kee-Chiu, Paper-General Tan, “both liau” Lawrence, “ah so” Swee Say, “ah kua” Boon Wan, “yaYa papaya” Ong, “dead-pan” Desmond, “droopy-eyes” Teo, and OMG many
    many more. They better wake up and learn to be humble lest they send our country to the gutters.

    Singapore is such a small country, where people are generally so compliant and bochap, so it is so easy to govern. Therefore, what is the big deal. Any fool can do it.

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  • Hawking Eye:

    A good commentary by Jufrie on geo-politics affecting Singapore.

    But why should not Singapore host Netanyahu, the Israeli PM when he comes – just because a large segment of regional Muslims don’t like it?. Neither Singapore nor Israel has any issues with each other. In fact Israel helped us in the early stage of setting up our SAF when we left Malaysia and became independent. Even the late Anwar Sadat of Egypt signed peace treat with Menachem Begin of Israel for which both won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1978.

    Palestine issue is relatively easy to resolve, if there is real will. The problem is with the Palestinian leadership and some of their Arab backers. The latter have their own agenda and want the Palestinians ‘to have all or nothing at all’. If the Israelis are prepared to give some 70% of the Palestinian land at this juncture, the Palestinians should just grab it and declare it as a State under the auspices of the UN. As for the remaining 30% of land including the status of Jerusalem, leave it for further negotiations. If you leave to others to decide for you, the State of Palestine will never come to fruition for a long, long time to come.

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  • Who is the murderer?:

    Wow Mr

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  • Who is the murderer?:

    Wow Mr Mohammed Jufrie, those are some seriously strong words of “… host Netanyahu, the chief protagonist of a murderous, criminal state in the middle east.” How much of this allegation being true or fallacious depends on one’s reading and understanding the middle East affairs. Let’s assume you are right, this Bibi is the chief with the plan to host Netanyahu, the chief protagonist of a murderous, criminal state in the middle east.

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  • Who is the murderer?:

    Wow Mr

    Who is the murderer?:
    Wow Mr Mohammed Jufrie, those are some seriously strong words of “… host Netanyahu, the chief protagonist of a murderous, criminal state in the middle east.” How much of this allegation being true or fallacious depends on one’s reading and understanding the middle East affairs. Let’s assume you are right, this Bibi is the chief with the plan to host Netanyahu, the chief protagonist of a murderous, criminal state in the middle east.

    So what did the Arabs do that was not murderous nor criminal, from the Black September to Yasir Arafat to suicide bombing of innocent civilians, victimms including both innocent Arabs and Israelis living in Israel ? Enlighten us if you will.

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  • Stink Bean:

    @ cheapskate, bargain till bones

    Wah lan a , who dont bargain ?

    You want to be a robert to be slaughter by whatever shops the tour guide brings you is up to you ? If they dislke Sg tourists no issue they can dont sell .

    Any way we also have our fair of such shops like the Sim Lim mobile shop right ? The Vietnamese still recovered his money from the donations here.

    What about Huang Na’s case ? Singaporean donate monies only to be called stupid by China PRCs.

    Any of our businessmen lose monies venturing in China , PRCs donate money back to him ? That i dont know ? Please enlighten us ?Thanks

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  • Stink Bean:

    Missed out.

    @ cheapskate, bargain till bones

    Wah lan a , who dont bargain ? If not why now so many buy online ? Same thing – Cheaper right ?

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  • opposition dude:

    End of the day it all depends on what China will do to us. PAP will then react wrongly and we can all sit back and watch the show slowly eating our popcorn.

    PAP can’t even get the train system to run disruption free for half a year and you expect them to know how to deal with big countries? Forget about telling PAP what to do lah, they only listen to themselves and no one else, it’s become too deeply ingrained in them already.

    Just sit back and enjoy the show, I know I am.

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  • PAP is the BEST:

    LKY say make friend China if PAP don’t listen next election no more PAP because Singaporeans all remember LKY say make friend China. Must listen to LKY because LKY is God.

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  • Homeless Cat:

    Jufrie, there are none among humanity who are not guilty for the tragedies that take place every day. We all are. The only question is if we are willing to throw down the things others ask us to believe in for the things we should believe in.

    The Middle East is a hotbed of religious extremism and feuds predating Islam, Judaism and Christianity. There are those who want peace, but there are many more – maybe a select few, and these have the means to make a nightmare worse – who desire power and care not who dies or suffers on their behalf.

    But let us turn our attention back to the topic at hand (i.e.: the article you posted). Yes, Singapore’s GOVERNMENT – let me say it again for those foreigners who do not live in Singapore, our GOVERNMENT – has bought into its own myth of invincibility and superiority. Hard lessons need to be learned by the local ruling elite that there are other elites outside Singapore who are better than them in the Great Game.

    If they make a mess of things, WE pay for their blunders. We’re ALREADY paying for it, no thanks to their policies.

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  • Stop ranting:

    Chris: Well said. These sickos are shallow and empty shelves, nothing good to contribute to the country instead sponge on the country and us to earn their undeserved overpaid highest politicians salary. Really it is a pinch that our hard earned $ is used to pay them.

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  • Marine Le Pen France President:

    If George Yeo was around

    George Yeo would had give a angry stare, yelled at China
    What you think you are doing
    This is international law
    Don’t push Singapore around
    Respect of our sovereignty
    Promote Nationalism flag waving

    But today next generation very timid?
    Are we now Kow Tow to China
    Your Mainland Chinese can ship them over by the thousands
    We must tell China to respect our Singapore Culture
    Singapore is not a Chinese country, Singapore going to had a Malay President, Malay PM
    Singapore is not a communist outpost of China

    Today Singapore youth is very fierce
    They will stomp their feet, not happy with the counter service
    After that give a Angry Face, fold both arms to their chest, we will not cooperate
    When the counter service staff take their own sweet time to do work
    Singaporean young will cough, cough, cough so loud, make them frustrated at work
    Ahem, ahem, ahem…..look at me with a angry look some more, I give you a arrogant posture

    We had better confident in the Y generation
    They are more confrontation
    They are more aggressive
    They are more good at insulting, yelling & pretend to show a angry face to frighten you
    This is good leadership at work

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  • Marine Le Pen France President:

    If you are not arrogant
    You end up being bully by others
    The passerby join in to bully you

    Singapore must not fall for this trap

    Food seller:”小第,要吃什么?
    Ah Boy:”老大,她叫你small little brother?”
    Lion Head:”小姐,你叫谁小第?要数我小第的毛毛吗?
    Food seller:”没大没小。“
    Lion Head:”小姐,大还是小,去81,我们happy, happy,就知道了
    Ah Boy:”很爽,怕你每晚饿,还想要。“
    Lion Head:”夜里不要自摸……找我。”

    Then the food seller never called him 小第 anymore
    Whenever, someone with tattoo, she never address her customer 小第

    The moral of the story, must be fierce

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  • Poor Foreign Relations:

    Encik Jufrie, betul awak cakap itu.

    The irony is that whilst much bigger and significant countries such as Philippines and Malaysia are already ‘pivoting’ to China, here we have arrogant tiny Singapore moving the opposite direction.

    Despite the fact that China has territorial disputes with several countries, China has more friends that USA in the world; from Africa, South & Central America, Central Asia, Middle East, Canada, and countries such as Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar in Indo China.

    The problem with our short-sighted PM is that he got carried away by cozying up with Obama. L*L’s nut-head swell greatly especially when he was invited to the White House to watch the Yankee Doodle Parade.

    Singapore’s foreign policy hypocrisy always run into problems. L*L’s inability to comprehend the sensitivities of international foreign relations, lack of wisdom (or simply plain stupidity), arrogance and assumed complacency has caused the tiny red dot to lose its special stance from China.

    Besides China, I do not think our 2 closest neighbour (Malaysia and Indonesia) ‘like’ Singapore. The complicated causeway issues with Malaysia and haze issues with Indonesia are just examples that we are not getting the best cooperation from our neighbours.

    The damage in relations (lost of trust) with China our biggest trading partner is significant. It probably will take many years to heel, and certainly will not heel as long as L*L is PM. A change of PM may help.

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  • Malay Muslim Voter:

    Hawking Eye:
    Palestine issue is relatively easy to resolve, if there is real will. The problem is with the Palestinian leadership and some of their Arab backers. The latter have their own agenda and want the Palestinians ‘to have all or nothing at all’. If the Israelis are prepared to give some 70% of the Palestinian land at this juncture, the Palestinians should just grab it and declare it as a State under the auspices of the UN.

    Problem with most Singaporeans. As much as they listen to PAP propaganda, they also listen to Western Propaganda. Even a huge country like USA, their news is controlled by 6 corporation only. Which has self interest, with no interest on public welfare.

    1) PM Lee invites Netanyahu to win favour with US to influence Trump to look to Asia, especially Singapore. But Trump has different agenda. Trump is making US like North Korea or Cuba. Closing it doors to outside world affairs. The outcome of Brexit and Trumpism, are results of western nation, don’t want to deal with global issues. Israel won support under assumption of Judeo-Christianity civilisation wants. With Jews wanting to build a new Solomon Temple, and Christians waiting for Jesus next arrival. But Israel now has become pro-LBGTQ nation. So where is the Abrahamic faith foundation which Israel was suppose to be based on? Which leads to more Christian based Americans to ponder, if they do their own research, is Israel a secular or religious nation? Will Jesus arrive to support a nation that promote public sodomy and gay parties? Maybe purpose of Jesus second coming is to change the bible to approve gay marriage?

    2) At the same, PM Lee chose a Malay President to take office. To ‘balance’ the anger of neighbouring muslim country of Israel arrival. If they want to have Israel and US support, why need to ‘balance’ it with a Malay President? Politicians in our muslim neighbours don’t care what Singapore want to do. As long as they don’t meddle with other people internal politics. Take note during Singapore early years, Jewish Synagogue perform their prayers peacefully alongside muslim villages. Even my parents talk about them going to Synagogue to watch free movies like the 10 Commandment, story about Prophet Moses. Muslim sees them as people of the book. Wars are started by zionism, not by Jews.

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  • What Talking You?:

    Our ministers have to be the best in the world ! They are self-proclaimed aristocrats .Why ?

    Becos they are the highest paid politicians in the world. calculated either by geographical area or by population.

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  • woo wj:

    Our FP can be summed up as below in Chinese:

    自以为是–》不自量力–》荒腔走板–》走后入魔

    May be it is high time to change many of our anti- china gangs in the cabinet
    now.

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  • It's a taqiyya lie!:

    Malay Muslim Voter: Problem with most Singaporeans. As much as they listen to PAP propaganda, they also listen to Western Propaganda. Even a huge country like USA, their news is controlled by 6 corporation only. Which has self interest, with no interest on public welfare.

    1) PM Lee invites Netanyahu to win favour with US to influence Trump to look to Asia, especially Singapore. But Trump has different agenda. Trump is making US like North Korea or Cuba. Closing it doors to outside world affairs. The outcome of Brexit and Trumpism, are results of western nation, don’t want to deal with global issues. Israel won support under assumption of Judeo-Christianity civilisation wants. With Jews wanting to build a new Solomon Temple, and Christians waiting for Jesus next arrival. But Israel now has become pro-LBGTQ nation. So where is the Abrahamic faith foundation which Israel was suppose to be based on? Which leads to more Christian based Americans to ponder, if they do their own research, is Israel a secular or religious nation? Will Jesus arrive to support a nation that promote public sodomy and gay parties? Maybe purpose of Jesus second coming is to change the bible to approve gay marriage?

    2) At the same, PM Lee chose a Malay President to take office. To ‘balance’ the anger of neighbouring muslim country of Israel arrival. If they want to have Israel and US support, why need to ‘balance’ it with a Malay President? Politicians in our muslim neighbours don’t care what Singapore want to do. As long as they don’t meddle with other people internal politics. Take note during Singapore early years, Jewish Synagogue perform their prayers peacefully alongside muslim villages. Even my parents talk about them going to Synagogue to watch free movies like the 10 Commandment, story about Prophet Moses. Muslim sees them as people of the book. Wars are started by zionism, not by Jews.

    How does the will of a people to establish their homeland in their ancient land of Israel, which is essentially Zionism, start the war? The League of Nations, the precursor of the UN, had voted unanimously in 1947 to allow the return of Jews to their homeland. The Arabs vehemently rejected the partition plan and started a genocidal war at the Jews immediately. How could Zionism have started the war??? The Arabs are guilty. Period. Come off it! Your assertion is a lie and a joke!

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  • 狠狠的干一下:

    张爷爷:
    哎,新加坡的处境实在令人担扰,

    您放轻松点儿,俺来给您狠狠的打个大手枪

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  • BuyMeBakKutTeh:

    It’s perfectly all right not to offer a cigarette in spore when u light up one yourself. It is rude in China if you do not! LHL you maybe yellow skin but I think you know nuts bout mainland Chinese culture! Turn on tap in Shanghai to get pork soup… u r really an idiot!

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