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NS has lost its meaning honestly!

We have been very proud to serve the country and every local bornt male has to serve, even Joseph Schooling could not avoid. We feel so proud of serving and even the 13 cycle of reserve which makes life difficult for us, we bite our tongue without much complain.

Today, Singapore is different, our ministers said Singapore belongs to all nationalities (except Singaporeans I believe). The new core he hinted is no longer Singaporeans but the third world foreigners they imported and will convert.

Many MPs and ministers are foreign bornt, never serve a day of National Service but given critical job in our cabinet to develop policies for Singaporeans. Do they actually understand what locals are going through?

They spent more than $400M annually funding foreigners studying in schools and universities. Of which, most do not have to serve NS even if they come at tender age, put through our system, strategically converted to PR after NS liability age. These foreign converted to PRs or new citizens are then arranged cushy jobs in ministries or GLCs. Maybe you think it is not true, you can walk in ministries, even Temasek or MINDEF related agencies to verify for yourself. Then we recently have a case of a new citizen and his son, second generation also avoided NS and straight into university, rather un-believeable.

Maybe the ministers are right after all, since Singapore belongs to all nationalities, it is only right other nationalities can be ministers or even PM or EP. Surely we will find minister from PRC, Philippines or Myanmar soon. Our parliament will become UN of ASEAN, or Dubai or Asia.

NS takes away 2 years of our prime time and lowly paid, after which we locals have to compete with millions of incoming foreigners imported for the same rice bowl. With such fierce competition, we are still obligated to find time to serve 13 cycles of reserve.

My question to you: Since Singapore belongs to all nationalities, why are these people given all the good of Singapore while you slog your prime 2 years away and 13 cycles of reserve?

Next question: Why don’t they fund locals and help us avoid NS instead? LOL This is probably a question you laugh…. with irony I hope.

 

DuGu QiuBai

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21 Responses to “NS has lost its meaning honestly!”

  • 狠狠的干一下:

    Why?
    As usual lah, Boh Bian lah!

    Just keep saying everything is Boh Bian and everything you will accept.
    Like you give up your human rights.

    Got food to eat, can masturbate happy already.
    Abstain from politics!

    Your
    手枪男孩儿

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  • G39:

    NS was created as a Self Defense army to protect the INDEPENDENCE of The Republic of Singapore. It lost its bearing when a leader from the founding generation decide to create a dynasty to protect his Self Interest and the rest is HISTORY according to Lee Kuan Yew

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  • NotMyProblem:

    Don’t forget employers prefer FT because SG have to go for Reservist ICT yearly.

    Also FT in LTA and Auxiliary Security bossing SG around. They [email protected] care if you have served NS.

    True blue SG serve NS to protect FT.

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  • Just1more:

    I always remembered what Desmond Tutu had said about Europeans. He said, they asked us to close our eyes to pray and gave us a book to hold. When we opened our eyes, we still have the book but we lost our land.

    NS is similar. They tell you this is a service to the nation and while you are in the army receiving small allowance, jobs in the market are taken from you by cheaper foreign workers.

    That’s the reality of NS.

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  • Serving Who?:

    This issue has been thrown into the open for quite some time but has anyone noticed, our immorally overpaid leaders have yet to meaningfully comment on it. The reason is obvious. They have lost all their morals to utter a word because the sorry state of affairs is true. Which right thinking Singaporean born and bred here would want to give 2 years of his prime life to fight and die for a country whose population is increasingly made up of aliens and foreigners here to reap the economic benefits? And worse, many are given citizenship for political expediency. Patriotism is only valid when you and/or your children, or your children’s children, are able to reap the benefits of your blood and sweat. Only dumb sinkies still believe that is the case. Our leaders have sold their souls for the $millions they are paid and in the process, try to mortgage ours away as well. Unless you are such a selfless soul, you will not want to continue to be blindly patriotic.

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  • rukidding:

    Al the 70 alibabas…are great tongue twister…benefitting themselves !

    Look….Puthu Cherry claims he is doing NS …”looking after babies” ???

    Where the “F” is his brain & logic ?

    Acting blur as usual !

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  • Fat MaMa:

    To start with it never had any meaning for Singaporeans. The army was to serve LKY and his party and, so it did and still do. It has never lost its original meaning! Just that Singaporeans bought into their “nation-building” propaganda without questioning. Despite LKY’s earliest threat of using the army on university students in 1974, Singaporeans simply refused to see how it was already LKP’s/PAP’s army. We choose what we want to believe and proudly lie to one another and to our younger generations. We are still lying anyway. Until we own up our mistakes and take responsibility for our own political apathy, then it has meaning drumming up this issue. If not, it is just another complain about PAP’s hegemonic and pervasive system.

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  • Lye Khuen Way:

    Well asked, ” DuGu QuiBai “. Am just as pissed. Although, I didn’t do a 13 year cycle, I was transferred to the SCDF and guess what?
    I found during my attempt to sign up for the 10km ARMY HM with my cohort that, I am not eligible for the concession rate as an Ex NS man. Was only able to sign up as a SAFRA member.

    After much communication, apparently I am not considered an Ex NS man as I have been booted out of the Ministry of Defense!
    Incidentally, I am also a member of the Home Team Club. Ironic isn’t?

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  • SG badly needs a reboot:

    Half of SG population are foreigners, we are still importing to hit 10M.

    Govt sponsors $400M++ to let young foreigners come here study, live and spend our money and help them avoid NS. Arrange cushy jobs for them, give them PR and citizenship. After NS, we compete with millions of FTs for the same job.

    2 years of low paid and 13 years of commitment. We locals are constantly reminded to fight and defend Singapore while the govt keeps screwing us.

    You tell me, serve for F?

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  • opposition dude:

    Well. PAP likes to parade the old rubbish about how NS is important lah, how we must defend Singapore lah and blah blah blah. Conveniently sidestepping the issue of why new citizens are not serving. The ultra super duper wayang SAFVC is the best example of this. Why only PRs and new citizens can volunteer and resign from the SAFVC, why is this not given to local true born guys too?

    They won’t dare to answer this question because even they know that this is a wayang. But not surprisingly, 70% no problem with this at all because 70% aren’t the ones doing NS nor ICT.

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  • DOOM:

    WHY IS WP SO “QUIET” ABOUT THIS ???

    NOT PARLIAMENT SUBJECT ???

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  • William C:

    Those who served NS are minority. Look at the cohort. If 50% is PR no need to serve NS. If local born is 50% girls. Only 25% do NS. This is 1 in 4 persons. How can 1 defend and protect 3 persons. Not everyone is Yip Man who can handle 10. Lol!

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  • WP asleep in Parliament:

    DOOM:
    WHY IS WP SO “QUIET” ABOUT THIS ???

    NOT PARLIAMENT SUBJECT ???

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  • stop your bs:

    Basically the govt is giving special VIP service to FTs, for them to convert to PR or new citizen:

    1. FTs given very light sentence in many crimes ie 10 days vs 10 weeks for example.

    2. Jobs Singaporeans can do also pass on to foreigners, and a lot of foreigners are in high flying jobs ie DBS etc.

    3. Second generation of new citizens exempted from NS.

    4. Priority for BTOs.

    To move towards 10M and nurture a new loyal core of loyal supporters, these special privileges are given.

    Questions you need to ask yourself:

    1. You serve and defend these parasites and their master? They get all the good and you get all the shit?

    2. You may not impacted now, but it will come since we are moving to 10M, there is no job for 10M people. When it happens, would it be too late? You will eventually be jobless after 30s and there is no more taxi for you to drive (auto driver).

    3. Everything basic will be un-affordable, how will your children live?

    4. Your children will live a society with no job security, low pay and perhaps even no job as jobs are given to preferred incoming migrants. So how will they live?

    5. Did you vote PAPPY to do this to you? If you are one, when you are impacted, remember these are your own doings.

    Are my questions logical?

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  • Malay Kampong:

    NS never had meaning from the beginning. I will not elaborate on this.

    1) Israeli conscription was due to actual threat. Both male and female had to serve. And in reward, they receive things like free medical care until death. In Singapore, after so much complains, only recently they give out some money. But only benefit the new batch, likely pocket money for the new Lee who started doing NS. Old bird like us get NOTHING.

    2) USA got things like veterans day. Veterans job placement, job support schemes. We never fought a war before. But at least give us some advantage when employing compared to foriegners. PAP psychological game, enjoy brainwashing the people, there is nothing call free lunch. But pioneer generation medical discount, are considered as free lunch. Why doesn’t NSmen get discount such as medical fees? Employers are forced to pay CPF, why can’t they be forced to pay higher tax on getting PR/FT, and get tax rebate on employing NSmen?

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  • Malaysian Friends:

    As many here have suspected, most likelihood that 70% don’t serve NS, that’s the reason why it’s a “no issue” here. Even WP don’t need to fight for NS rights, because they won’t win election through it.

    As I have suspected much, our 70% are actually mostly Malaysians whose family members, none need to serve NS. They conquer our top posts in companies, and will definitely have no reason to employ multi racial Singaporeans. Being that Malaysia practice racial discrimination, they bring such practices here too. And they don’t have commitment towards employing Singapore men. Our men are disadvantaged in promotions and further studies due to attachment to NS, it makes sense too that our managerial pool are occupied mostly with Malaysians too.

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  • billyma:

    Lhl had turned the military using our young men as training ground for his yes-sir paper generals.

    Who really believe our defence force can really defend the country from foreign invasion?
    Maybe even Lhl & his super rich ministers don’t believe it at all.
    Who will be able to run away at the first instant when we’re attacked?
    Who has the means? You or PaaP ministers?

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  • Elkay Whye:

    Has the Mighty singapore army won any war before? Any real war experience? Any general got experience? I no mean war games lah.

    Lui Tuck Yew got experience?

    Who knows the answer, KEE CHEW !

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  • Elkay Whye:

    DOOM:
    WHY IS WP SO “QUIET” ABOUT THIS ???

    NOT PARLIAMENT SUBJECT ???

    Hey, buster, its year end season. Need to decorate the town council with xmas decorations or not?

    Dun complain. The 30 percent voted them in.
    Just say BOH BIAN and you will feel better.
    Remember, everything is boh bian.

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  • Future traitors of the country:

    Well when one is having too much power, he become corrupted and greedy for himselves and his family/kakis.

    Thus he can be a trai**r to the country even to sacrify anyone for $$$$. This country is becoming more towards the stance when flooded with fts. No real citizens now when country populated with all sort of fts.

    Who will be real citizens or really think of country first when the G themselves only think of POWER and $$$$.
    Very sad when 70% are motly blind becaue they are now able to be fed well. One day when they wake up with family problems, then too late!

    If something happen to this country, you think I will fight for it? All fts already run to their own country, while most current G also run away, who knows? Worst secenrio I guess. Then BIG Bro, like China take over haha

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  • TRUE-BLUE DO NS TO SERVE FT:

    Local males are screwed in many ways – waste their time doing NS and reservist, can’t get scholarships reserved for FTs, lose out to their own female cohorts job-wise in terms of seniority, report to FTs for work, become laughing stock of FTs who also steal their women and get away with racist acts, etc etc.

    Fuck the PAP!

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