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China officially protests to Singapore’s relations with Taiwan

For more than 40 years, Singapore Armed Forces have been training in Taiwan under the codename Starlight. This was an open secret without any party making an issue out of it. China could have protested but chose to close an eye and over the years everyone seemed to take this unusual relationship for granted.

Today, arising from the landing of Terrex armoured vehicles in Hong Kong and now impounded for not having the proper papers, the issue has escalated. China is now making an official protest to Singapore’s relationship with Taiwan on the ground that those countries recognizing one China should not have official govt to govt relations with Taiwan. Now what?

This is the first time that China has rebuked Singapore openly demanding that Singapore observed the rule of law in its relations with China under the One China Policy. Before this, Singapore enjoyed a very special relationship with China, carefully crafted and nurtured under the skilful hands of Lee Kuan Yew. This special relationship allowed Singapore to have very close ties with the Americans, the arch enemy of China and persistently trying to contain China and creating trouble for China, and also Singapore’s nebulous military training in Taiwan. All was good when relationship was kept at an even keel.

Things started to change when the Americans took an aggressive stand towards China in the South China Sea. Working hands in gloves with Japan and instigating the Aquino govt to take China to The Hague Tribunal and to make matter worst, turning the permanent arbitration court into a kangaroo court against China. All this got nothing to do with Singapore until Singapore started to take the side of the Americans demanding that China accept the dubious rulings of the court, that China must abide by its rulings, and kept repeating that China must obey the rule of law, abide by international law as if China was not. Many other sordid events followed suit culminating in some unnecessary remarks at the Peru APEC Summit.

Why would a little Red Dot think it is its duty and right to keep telling China what to do and think that China is hapless and would have to tolerate its demands? Though the Chinese govt did not say anything officially, the social media and other semi official media were rife in their attacks against Singapore for being on the side of the Americans and being anti China.

The writing was on the wall. Singapore did not see it coming? With its top diplomats making unfriendly comments, claiming to be speaking in their personal capacity as ‘ordinary citizens’ and brushed aside as non events in Parliament unchastised, did not go unnoticed.

Now the climax of this saga, 9 or is it 12 Singapore made Terrex armoured vehicles landed in Hong Kong port, carried by American President Line. Why did the vehicles landed in Hong Kong when they were not supposed to be there, on transit from Taiwan to Singapore? There is absolutely no reason for the armoured vehicles to be unloaded on to Hong Kong port. How did it happen, who did it and on what purpose? What is the agenda, or is there an agenda?

The APL or its employees cannot be so stupid to do such a thing. Armoured vehicles are weapons of war, prohibited unless proper documentations are done, often with diplomatic clearance. But why, why were the armoured vehicles in Hong Kong when they were bound for Singapore? Did someone intentionally unloaded them and then tipped off the Chinese authorities to create a tiff between the two countries?

Another big question, these are military weapons. Were they secured, were there guards to protect them from mischief? Were security protocol in place to keep terrorists or trouble makers away from the armoured vehicles? It is unbelieveable and shocking that such weapons are left to commercial shippers without being accompanied by military guards and treated like scrap cars, leave them wherever also can.

What’s next? How would this strange episode be resolved now that Lee Kuan Yew is not around and Hsien Loong has not been too friendly with his comments on China? Could Singapore punch above its weight against China? Or would the Americans and its cronies be egging the Singapore govt to stand up to China just like the Aquino govt? Would there be another Hague Tribunal, backed by the UN to rule against China and the rulings be legal and binding?

With the Philippines not wanting to be the barking dog for the Americans, are the Americans looking for a replacement in Singapore to provoke China and raise tension again in the region? If so, would Singapore willingly accept this and play the role? Looks like Vivian Balakrishnan has a job cut out for him to excel. And he would pass with flying colours with his team of super talents in the MFA.

When leaders received bad counsels and cannot tell the difference, the only way to go is down.

 

Chua Chin Leng aka Redbean

*The writer blogs at My Singapore News.

 

 

 

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48 Responses to “China officially protests to Singapore’s relations with Taiwan”

  • Visionary Ministers:

    Commonsense tells us that when you are tiny and vulnerable, don’t bite more than you can chew. And if you push your luck too far, you will sooner or later run out of luck. Looks like we have just run out of luck. LKY once said to the effect that to make it as minister he or she must possess the vision to see far and ahead… beyond the horizon that is (not his exact words). Well, what happens to our supposedly visionary ministers who have assumed everything to be hunky-dory and failed to see ahead that this is coming? For the $millions in salaries they have been paying themselves, we deserve an honest answer.

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  • opposition dude:

    See, this is what happens when you have a leader who thinks he is very clever. As the old Hokkien saying goes, kiang jio ho, mai keh kiang. No prizes for guessing which of the 2 kiangs goondu Loong was in.

    But not to worry because people who do not know what humility is will only make things worse. You can bet this is not the end of the show, there is still more to come. As long as any government official or someone related to the government says something that China does not like to hear is when the fun will start again.

    And knowing PAP’s pattern you just know they will make the same mistake over and over and over again.

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  • 反感:

    Seriously??? There is “rule of law” in relationship?

    You are trying so hard to say something even to the point of just doing it nonsensically !!

    Or you confuse the fact that we are not YET another province, special administrative or autonomous region of China?

    Red Bean:
    This is the first time that China has rebuked Singapore openly demanding that Singapore observed the rule of law in its relations with China under the One China Policy

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  • LHL Is Like A Spoilt Child:

    First he think he is very smart (Cambridge Educated) and unwittingly antagonise the Chinese Leaders by opening his big mouth unnecessarily. Now China is going after Singapore arse.

    Next he insisted on signing the TPP with other smaller nations despite Donald Trump backing out. He is indirectly acting smart again and will be antagonising the United States.

    He is leading Singapore down the drain because these big powers can hit Singapore economically.

    Time for all the arrogant and inefficient million dollar PAP leaders to step down as they have high IQ but very low EQ or our country will be doomed.

    We want Value For Money leaders.

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  • It's The End Already:

    The current PAP government and leaders are nothing more than arrogant greedy evil cheaters and liars who created a huge mess of this country and bring the country down while paying themselves billions.

    The dafts will suffer, more pain will come, the dafts have five years to repent for their ball less votes and keeping the status quo.

    The future generations of dafts will suffer, slog for life to upkeep the natural aristocrats lifestyles and greed.
    The educated dafts better not pretend that there is an easy escape without setting things right. The door is getting narrower day by day for economic migrants as the tide turns against globalisation.

    You have five years to wake up and set things right, hopefully this silly speck could recover from then from the deep damaged.

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  • MarBowling:

    It’s KARMA.

    By using all sorts of Crap reasons, MF Mai Hum bullied own citizen like Amos Yee, Roy, Ms Teo SL etc without mercy! Jailing them, imposing heavy fines on them, etc.

    The Barn Owl and Heaven have answered our CALL and WISH: it’s his pay back time.

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  • Why We Survived:

    We(small country) survived because of rules of international Law. If we don’t speak up now, in future some big countries said Singapore belong to them just like Iraq and Kuwait, who will speak up for us?

    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Socialist.
    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.
    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
    Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)

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  • Why Why Why:

    “the cargo ship carrying the cars had set sail from Taiwan, but docked in Xiamen en route to Hong Kong, where the military kit was (first) found …mainland law enforcers informed their Hong Kong counterparts …and confiscated military material.”

    “China might have allowed the seizure to happen in Hong Kong to embarrass Singapore …”

    ““There is no doubt that the Chinese government wants to embarrass Singapore….””

    ““China just wants to put pressure on Singapore over its stance in the South China Sea.””

    Ref: “Mainland agents ‘tipped off Hong Kong about Singaporean army vehicles’” – http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/2049429/mainland-agents-tipped-hong-kong-about-singaporean-army

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  • 1 big @:

    There is this likelihood that Singapore was sort of being blackmail by someone who You know lah into taking side with the SCS issue.

    As You all know, the idea of TPP was originally conceptualised by Singapore. Later in the process, Japan, the USA saw the opportunity to use this to cause problems to PRC, started to push aggressively to realise their goal.

    Somewhere along tje course, Singapore could have been told If Singapore would to get the benefit of being a part of the TPP, the country would have to make a stand as detated by the big “abang”, else, nothing for the reddot.

    If not, it is just hard to rationalise why the lido had to say What had been said.

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  • 痩爸爸:

    新加坡裝甲車被香港扣押,理虧在新加坡,這种事情如果発生在新加坡PSA碼头的話,
    照样会被扣押,按新加坡法律來处理.其实這事件是可以避免的,問題在國防部上層
    的大將軍王不知底下軍官和士兵在幹什么,才惹上滿身蟻,讓中國有借題發揮的机会.

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  • 官财过不了3代?:

    We need to invoke the grand old man to Rise to the occasion.

    Would Darwinder able to say something nice to XJP, assuming he uses Google Translate?

    I search Japorn with it. Not bad really.

    China is very clean, it produces no porn.
    Trust me, I have searched for a decade and google also no have. There are some sites claiming to have but these mistake Hong Kong or Jap as Cheena.

    We should appease China and USA. Here is why :
    1. Without SG, is China or usa affected? Little if none at all.

    2. Without China or USA, can sg survive? Maybe if we drink new water can survive for a while.

    So, is SG Sovereignty under siege?

    Do the millionaires civil servants have the toughness and bravery and IQ to ride over this fiasco?

    Who among them have survived a war?
    Are Singaporeans too soft?
    I know I am. I should stop masturbating.

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  • Time Traveller:

    Communist Dragon has finally awakened and is showing its true colors? When the cat is away the mouse is out to play? Wait for Trump to tame it by taking USA jobs back. Dont say it wont happen… With the breaking up of Europe, watch France and Germany in 2017…more ang mos will head back where their rice bowls will be at… Be afraid, China…. Be very Afraid… the economic future is almost uncertain for you. Let the NE Hemisphere build up their own security with more Nuclear arms race… And plus a nice big fat earthquake at szechuan will certainly make PRC more humble. Wait for an uprising in the China rural areas and Xingjiang, and watch a muslim MZD rise to overthrow the current wayward communist government. Balkanization of China, with the freeing of Tibet, breaking of Hong Kong and Taiwan… Singapore is still safer to continue to engage the west and SE Asia more. It may not seem right now, but eventually tides will turn back against the arrogant communists. Negative and laugh all you want. Just wait and see.

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  • Not clever:

    Uncle Redbean seem to be suggesting that someone is using Singapore to create a ruckus with the Chinese. While that may be a possibility, you cannot also discount the other possibility that the Chinese was retaliating against LHL for openly challenging them on the SCS and TPP fronts since this APL saga came almost right after these issues. The Starlight exercises are an open secret and our special relationship with Taiwan had been known to China all these years, so it is more probable that it was intentionally staged by the Chinese and not someone else to send some timely reminders to us not to take these special privileges for granted under their noses. The Chinese are really clever in killing so many birds with one single stone. They could be using the Taiwan-Singapore military pact as an excuse to hit at both parties while flexing its big brother muscle to their key adversaries on the SCS and TPP issues. Releasing the military vehicles so quickly under their terms is so cleverly crafted to warn you of their Big Brother status.

    Perhaps we may never know but if the APL had not been getting the papers all these years to ship military vehicles, equipments and weapons then the onus is on our govt to ensure all necessary paperwork were cleared and not pass the baton back to APL. What is worrying and disconcerting was that our paper generals and leaders can so casually and quickly push them away to APL as if these were ordinary commercial goods. It only exposes the scary fact that their leadership is weak, almost non existent to say the least. Some of our after event responses were downright foolish, impetuous and frankly stupid too without much thought. How we could let these incompetent hands to guide us on the long road ahead is beyond me. I wonder what would have been if LKY was still around. His team would at least have minimized these uneasy communications between us and China in the aftermath with clever maneuvers . While we should not just so easily kowtow to perceived bullying by a Big Brother now rich and powerful enough to exercise their growing prowess I feel neither should we stupidly engage in foolish defiant talks and moves we will regret later for we just might turn out to be the ultimate sacrificial pawn in this political chess game.

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  • Mr. Ludicrous:

    quoting Ms Vivian, “Everyone, including China, knows that we’ve had special arrangements with Taiwan for a long time and what we are doing there is no longer a secret,”

    Read all about it here :

    http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/spore-wont-let-any-one-issue-hijack-ties-with-china-vivian

    I caught his interview on tv couple of nights back. Alarm bells rang off immediately. For more than 41 years, our army have been training in Taiwan with zero disturbance from the 800 lb Panda sitting quietly in his corner munching on his bamboo. Wat was Ms Vivian thinking when he uttered the now famous words. As a true blue Singaporean, I cringed with embarrassment and felt so stupid for him. Instead of wayang-ing more and makes himself look extremely foolish he should be asking Why Now? Why are they doing this? What have we done to incur their displeasure. The displeasure will intensify to wrath very soon if pap-smear continue to yaya-papaya

    What would I do if I were China? What could I do to pressure pap-smear? Offer China’s military training facilities to SG. The benefits are unparallelled.

    China is approx 264X larger than Taiwan. Ms vivian’s army will benefit from the different types of landscapes, weather conditions, etc to toughen the soldiers. Taiwan where got deserts, harsh winters to simulate fighting in these surroundings. SG army could be transformed into Universal Soldiers. Why throw good money after bad? Make our taxpayers money worthwhile. National security is at stake here. Ms vivian aren’t you a taxpayer too?

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  • Xi Gina:

    Weak writer, and even weaker heart and mind.
    Reject communism, stand up to china imperalism.

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  • Sharon Ann Gabriel:

    PM Lee betted on Hillary to become the next President and to enjoy Uncle Sam’s protection. He lost. China took the opportunity to cut the arrogant Little Dragon down to size for poking the Big Dragon’s eye. China could have listened to its citizens’ demand to melt down the 9 armoured carriers for breaking international laws. That would have made PM Lee the laughing stock of the world.

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  • DOOM:

    ARCH ENEMY OF CHINA ???

    TAIWAN ???

    YOU MASTERBATING TOO MUCH !!!

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  • DOOM:

    CHINESE TOURIST GOING TO TAIWAN FOR DONKEY YEARS LAH….

    STOP WRITING ” GARBAGE” !!!

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  • DOOM:

    MASTERBATE TOO MUCH IS BAD FOR KNEES

    DOCTOR SAY !!!

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  • G39:

    Nothing to do with NS training in Taiwan.China is fully aware of our training, its the ATTITUDE towards China and a little red dot trying to be a CONTINENT with an IDIOT thinking he is smart when in fact he is an IDIOT in the eyes of the World Leaders and his people.If not for a few GOOD men in the PAP this IDIOT would have been long shot dead because of his Stupidity.

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  • Just1more:

    Indeed, the writing is on the wall all these while. It is disappointing that our expert did not anticipate such things coming. Perhaps, we had been in the forest all these while without seeing a tiger and believe there is none. Complacency is the only explanation to our current predicament.

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  • Chinese like an eye for an eye:

    No action = no reaction !!! So, when the PAPees coverment started to f**k China, the Chinese will react and f**k back, as simple as that.

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  • spore a super power:

    spore losing a lot of friends in the past few years and i wonder what FM is doing ? indonesia scold our minister , thailand refused to return the bank robber , no sand from m’sia and indonesia , trump whack spore for stealing jobs from US and now china and HK retain our tanks ?

    it’s time for spore to reconsider their position and stand , shouldn’t be so high profile and out-spoken and stop assume spore can punch above their weight ! stop being how-lian and lecture other country’s leaders .

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  • Pinky better be careful....:

    This action by China is only the appetizer, is not even the the main course and China not even need to use military towards SG, just a few economic moves will be enough to bring SG to its knees. At the end Sinkies will suffer because of our coverment arrogance.

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  • PAP has the mandate:

    PAP and stinkapore days of playing double agent is over……hahhaahhhaha

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  • Little Red Dot:

    Will LKY rise from his grave to save his dishonorable son, as promised before his death?

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  • N.Jungne:

    Thanks Redbean, but when China maintain a close one eye, Sinkapor thinks that’s a dead dragon, no still there’s one eye open. Ah Dou “kwai-lan”, Ah HEN wants legal reason and VB treats China like AHPETC. Instead of “Tao-cheo” Ah Dou wants to openly laugh at China. China is not the Middle Kingdom now, LeeLong wants India to be one. Sorry Singaporeans save some taxmoney and young men’s life when training in Taiwan.

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  • oxygen:

    SINKIELAND HAVE LIT THE PROVERBIAL PRAIRIE FIRE of stupid public comments on SCS, TPP, Middle Kingdom, free smoke and pork soup etc etc (diplomacy in international relations would find these offensive and intolerable) totally unprovoked and arrogantly displaying to humiliate AH TIONG LAND needlessly.

    Donald Trump upset overturned the apple cart. TPP scuttled, bullied Malaysia and Philippine even kow tow to POO YI and Vietnamese rats went hiding. We are isolated. At the right critical moment, the wind of change has blown in a different direction and we are engulfed in flame and no escape route. Panic, we even add fuel to fire of agitated anger in full display as if we are the unfairly injured party in this fracas of someone’s doing -EVEN IF THIS IS THE REAL CASE of Chinese plotting to take revenge of showing who is holding the cane.

    Our military relationship is public knowledge to the PANDA tribe – all silent till now. Now that it is blown asunder, it might have to close – a step down march from the stage for us. China also wants face, I doubt they will relent.

    So do we then sue to show “rule of law” which the Chinese has different interpretation of that from us – IT IS THEIR JURISDICTION, THEIR LAW INTERPRETATION even if it Hong Kong court ruling. If we are not pretending “above the piety of rule of law”, how do we justify that legal action?

    Do we mean and seek to assert to the whole world of our solemn dedication and compliance of “rule of law”behavior such that shipping foreign cargo, including that of Sinkieland, is beyond Chinese jurisdiction of inspection of content, and delayed release of cargo if found NOT to infringe their law??

    THIS IS GOING TO BACKFIRE ON US BADLY. If we solemnly believe in the rule of law, cut the lawsuit out and find a diplomatic face saving for both sides to resume our long hard-won ties with China. In Ah Tiong land culture, there is NO PERMANENT FRIEND NOR ENEMY. Just shake hands, and we and them can be happy thereafter.

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  • Elkay Whye:

    Xi Gina:
    Weak writer, and even weaker heart and mind.
    Reject communism, stand up to china imperalism.

    You talk cock?
    Walk the talk lah!
    I have a culture of KIA SI leh.
    How you cure kia si ?
    Knn, you si ghinnah !

    You go and die and walk the talk lor.

    Got food to eat, job to do, freedom tl masturbate can already!

    Abstain from politics you si ghinnah !

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  • No more selfies:

    Little Red Dot:
    Will LKY rise from his grave to save his dishonorable son, as promised before his death?

    IMHO no. No eyes see!

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  • BuyMeBakKutTeh:

    Has Pinky make any comment yet?
    Is he hiding under his bed now or praying in Mandai for daddy Devine intervention?

    He should change his name to Loonie Lee Sia Suay!

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  • Bad Boy:

    China wants to play hard hand, let it.

    Next natural disaster or mishap , dont expect donations no more.

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  • Karmic law:

    Return the people’s Retirement Funds the whole lot – or call it by some other name than the CPF.

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  • Bad Boy:

    @ What would I do if I were China? What could I do to pressure pap-smear? Offer China’s military training facilities to SG. The benefits are unparallelled.

    Did they ever offer ?

    If yes muz consider pollution issues food water safety issues as well. Anytime free smoke and pork soup served.
    If going for moderate chemical warfare ( smog attack warfare ) perhaps.

    The only good thing for our NS boys is sex education with PRC mei mei ?

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  • Free Trade Junkie:

    SG cannot afford to Offend China?
    Authoritarianism meets its match?

    You be the judge!

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  • MarBowling:

    One possible outcome from this China-RD Saga.

    China pander to the WISH of some of her citizen: melt the 9 farking toys and then make into a stature of a White Monkey with an Extended Rude Finger and send the damn thing back to RD for their Safe Keeping or for Public Display at the Istana!

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  • PAP Contempt of Citizens:

    Frankly many of you have missed the wood.

    China is throwing huge amount of smoke and intelligently they set out to hide their main aggenda such like killing many birds with a single stone.

    Correctly and appropriately why now only make noises after 40 years of Ex Starlight? BTW yours truly I went ROC twice,both on SIA 747 carriers.

    Therefore the clouded issue here is China want to peep inside whats there in each military armour carrier. What sort of gadgets are inside which they want to glean.

    At the same time, are there any deeply hidden spying gadgets which can harm them.

    So you cocks out there, diplomatic spat is Dont superficial lah.

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  • Drain SG Swamp!!:

    LHL Is Like A Spoilt Child:
    First he think he is very smart (Cambridge Educated) and unwittingly antagonise the Chinese Leaders by opening his big mouth unnecessarily. Now China is going after Singapore arse.

    Next he insisted on signing the TPP with other smaller nations despite Donald Trump backing out. He is indirectly acting smart again and will be antagonising the United States.

    He is leading Singapore down the drain because these big powers can hit Singapore economically.

    Time for all the arrogant and inefficient million dollar PAP leaders to step down as they have high IQ but very low EQ or our country will be doomed.

    We want Value For Money leaders.

    Ah Loony sat for GCE ‘A’ twice to use these combined certs to apply for Cambridge U.

    Ah Loony is Cambridge educated not because he is smart but because of his father’s connections. Just like the SG dragon throne, reserved and seat-warmed for Ah loony when papa stepped down.

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  • PAP is the BEST:

    You the IB come here disturb and scold people. PAP is best but China is biggest. Singapore and China must be friend, you don’t disturb.

    Xi Gina:
    Weak writer, and even weaker heart and mind.
    Reject communism, stand up to china imperalism.

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  • PUTHUCHEARY AVOIDED NS:

    No problem. Let’s say we kowtow to China, for whatever reason – ethnic, realpolitic, economic. Meaning small country, no choice, if we want to survive.

    What next? Three things will happen:

    1) Our non-Chinese citizens will feel threatened since we will start to become a SAR or a Middle Kingdom outpost/province.

    2) Our non-Chinese neighbours – Indonesia, especially, and Malaysia – will want to do the same – intimidate – to us.

    3) We totally lose our leverage vis-a-vis the West – economic, diplomatic, strategic.

    Contrary to what the TV uncle might say: Not so simple!

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  • Mr. Ludicrous:

    Mr. Ludicrous:
    quoting Ms Vivian, “Everyone, including China, knows that we’ve had special arrangements with Taiwan for a long time and what we are doing there is no longer a secret,”
    http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/spore-wont-let-any-one-issue-hijack-ties-with-china-vivian

    As leader you and your ministers aren’t acting responsibly for national interests. Stop shooting from the hip. On the Terrex disaster, there’s no obviously no Plan B and insurance policy in the back pocket to bring to the negotiation table with China. The storm has come and the idiots have left themselves completely wide open. Looks obvious our “brilliant” papsmear ministers scrambled for answers trying to out on a brave face with a useless disaster recovery plan. They have put SG on the map, captured all the wrong headlines. Stop making noise and start making friends winning respect.

    Never in my lifetime would I imagine Leader of a Catholic country Karaok-ing with Leader of a Muslim country. Hey pap-smear, this is called sleeping with the enemy. Here’s how they do it. Watch Mr D and Mr N enjoying themselves :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ-GApm5nV4

    Whilst papsmear shooting their mouths kpkbing about injustice, simi Hague sai, leaders are forging bonds, building strong friendships, making deals.
    http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/president-duterte-goes-shalala-lala-with-pm-najib-at-dinner

    It’s reported that Mr N returned from his China visit with US$34 billion worth of deals.
    http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/geopolitics/article/2040709/what-has-malaysian-leader-najib-razaks-china-trip-got-do-1mdb

    China and Philippines, the 2 countries with their love of everything pork, making deals, invited to Dine and Wine and Sing and Dance with a country whose national religion forbids it. Isn’t this mind-boggling?

    What have our national leaders done for us besides kpkb our wages are high. Starting today, parking has gone up by 10 cents:
    https://www.ura.gov.sg/uol/media-room/news/2016/jun/pr16-41

    lim sia suay, this represents a 20% INCREASE. you think business owners will absorb the increase? You subsiding from your multi-million salary?

    The 800 lb panda is sniggering in his corner enjoying his bamboo.

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  • Always Think Very Clever:

    if you read what they always say in the media, it is about they know better and we listen and diam diam. After sometime, this character becomes a habit, so they start to lecture big countries..

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  • Mang San:

    ” Return the people’s Retirement Funds the whole lot – or call it by some other name than the CPF ”

    This TRE reader has the considerate thinking for all Pioneers, oldies n other retirees concerning the return of CPF monies, Why ??

    During this critical time when the political leader (s) are planning the legal proceeding with regards to the National properties being retained, many oldies hope that the other party can compassionately, cordially help our oldies to retrieve their CPF monies currently retained by the Authority !! Why ??

    This topic was meanwhile widely discussed around the island !! These oldies were just day dreaming, how could such exchanges of conversations benefit ‘opponents’ residents ?? Isnt it ??

    By this point of view, one could visualise painfully that our oldies are yearning for their LIVE savings though the miserable sum as part payment per month by authority cannot satisfy them at all !!

    Well, what can they do ?? Just sit still n KPKB, comments from many others !!

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  • pessimist:

    You are being led off the shelter of neutrality that has to be maintained into the US barracks. It is not what you smoke that matters, it is what the 300 gm Panda thinks that is important. The Panda can now sit where it wants in the global stage with objections only from the Eagle. (The Eagle is too busy recuperating).

    You cannot return to your comfort zone (neutrality). Pax Americana has its rankings for light weights, you have just scored well in putting some of their sensitive military hardwares in the lake of tussles on commercial (unguarded) carriers. Leave alone the Panda, what happen when global terrorists get hold of them. How is the President of US going to explain to his unruly crowd that this is a slip of a “friend” ? It sounds like that your General is dismissive and flippant…well done and keep it up.

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  • PM Jokes vs China Long Memory?:

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    But is this becos of PM jokes about
    “BeiJing Free Smoking” n
    “Shanghai Pork Soup” ? ? ?
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/singapore-pm-draws-laughs-us-speech-111914557–politics.html?ref=gs
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    The AristoCATS got sophisticated sense of “humor”.
    Trying to be funny at someone’s else expense ?
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    Definitely, it does not help foreign relation. :(

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  • den:

    One correction:

    The UN has said The Hague tribunal has nothing to do with UN and U.S. not part of UN legal body. A singapore tribunal’s decision is not law in singapore neither is decision by Hague tribunal international law.

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  • den:

    PUTHUCHEARY AVOIDED NS:
    No problem. Let’s say we kowtow to China, for whatever reason – ethnic, realpolitic, economic. Meaning small country, no choice, if we want to survive.

    What next? Three things will happen:

    1) Our non-Chinese citizens will feel threatened since we will start to become a SAR or a Middle Kingdom outpost/province.

    2) Our non-Chinese neighbours – Indonesia, especially, and Malaysia – will want to do the same – intimidate – to us.

    3) We totally lose our leverage vis-a-vis the West – economic, diplomatic, strategic.

    Contrary to what the TV uncle might say: Not so simple!

    How about singapore stopping stabbing China’s back? Is this considered Kawtowing? Please give lame excuses for bad behaviour.

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  • Stupid IB:

    PUTHUCHEARY AVOIDED NS:
    No problem. Let’s say we kowtow to China, for whatever reason – ethnic, realpolitic, economic. Meaning small country, no choice, if we want to survive.

    What next? Three things will happen:

    1) Our non-Chinese citizens will feel threatened since we will start to become a SAR or a Middle Kingdom outpost/province.

    2) Our non-Chinese neighbours – Indonesia, especially, and Malaysia – will want to do the same – intimidate – to us.

    3) We totally lose our leverage vis-a-vis the West – economic, diplomatic, strategic.

    Contrary to what the TV uncle might say: Not so simple!

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