Understanding the flawed reasoning behind the causeway Reciprocal Road Charge

The money-crazy PAP Government tries to justify their latest increase on cross-border road charges by portraying it as tit-for-tat.

“This is to ensure that Malaysia takes into consideration our response whenever they raise their tolls or introduce a new levy,” Mr Khaw said.

But before anyone is fooled, let’s look at some events in time:

1923
The Johor-Singapore Causeway was built and completed by the British.

1942
The Causeway was partially severed during the 2nd World War and was rebuilt by the Japanese once they captured Singapore.

Before 1973
There were only toll charges on both sides.

1973
Singapore implemented the Vehicle Entry Permit (VEP), collecting a fee of SGD20.00 per foreign-registered car coming in from Malaysia in addition to the toll. Malaysia did not follow suit.

During the 1990s
Singapore extended the VEP to motorcycles, collecting a fee of SGD4.00 per foreign-registered motorcycle coming in from Malaysia in addition to the toll. Malaysia did not follow suit.

2014
Malaysia finally decide to increase the toll for the first time, the PAP Government screamed bloody murder and retaliate by increasing the VEP from SGD20 to SGD35 on Singapore’s side.

1st Nov 2016
Malaysia finally decided to implement the VEP of MYR 20 (officially known as Road Charge or RC for short) on their side 43 years after Singapore has done so, the PAP Government once again screamed bloody murder despite them already collecting VEP for all these years. The Malaysia RC do not apply on foreign-registered motorcycles despite Singapore VEP doing so.

2017
The PAP Government introduces the Reciprocal Road Charge (RRC) of $6.40 on all foreign-registered vehicles to take effect from 15th Feb 2017.

To summarise (from 15th Feb 2017):

Malaysia collects from Singapore-registered cars:
Entry : Toll (MYR 9.70) + RC (MYR 20.00)
Exit : Toll (MYR6.80)
Total : MYR 36.50 (~USD 8.17 at current rate)

Singapore collect from Malaysia-registered cars:
Entry : Toll (SGD 3.80) + VEP (SGD 35.00) + RRC (SGD 6.40)
Exit : Toll (SGD 2.70)
Total : SGD 47.90 (~USD 33.50 at current rate)

To put it in perspective (from 15th Feb 2017) by looking at the USD value, we can observe that Singapore is collecting 4.1 times per foreign-registered vehicle more than Malaysia.

So who is matching who? Match what?

If the PAP is actually sincere in matching, then they should be reducing the fees collected on foreign-registered vehicles instead of increasing it.

And if you think this has nothing to do with you because you do not drive, think again. Many of the groceries and commodities you consume on a daily basis are imported from Malaysia via land-border crossings. Any increase on the border-crossing fees increases the prices of the things you buy.

*The above is a Facebook post by Leslie Chew:

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42 Responses to “Understanding the flawed reasoning behind the causeway Reciprocal Road Charge”

  • Uncle Lim:

    This is what a one party state of MIW is saying.

    Always a one liner excuse to raise charges and always without any consideration for citizens.

    Can you understand Cow’s mumbo jumbo excuse? Talks as if he’s protecting our interests.

    More than 80 PAP MPs keep quiet. They are totally useless. Slaves of Familee.

    Why not match JB petrol prices as well?

    What an insanely greedy Coverment in SG.

    I demand the government give a FULL explanation for this latest money grab. Such money grabs cannot go unchallenged anymore.

    After petrol duty increase, yet another blow to motorists?

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  • Uncle Lim:

    Why must we pay toll to LEAVE SG since we are no longer using SG road infrastructure?

    Leave also must pay?

    Writer is right: this is a crazily greedy Coverment.

    Thanks for the research to the writer.

    Where’s Automobile Association of Singapore? Hahaha.

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  • Ho Lee Sheet:

    Wah piang eh! Talking about COLLECTING MONEY, who can beat our pap govt? If they say they’re no. 2, no one can be no. 1 So how can they stand seeing any other country collect more money than them? Must win them.

    PAP, Champions in Collecting Money!

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  • By Accident Collect More Money:

    Malaysia collect more money from Singaporean cars
    - Malaysian citizens do not protest

    Singapore collect more money from Malaysian cars
    - Singaporean citizens do not protest

    By accident, both governments end up collecting more money.
    - and both Malaysian and Singaporean citizens are very happy
    - no protest

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  • PAP has the mandate:

    Gong gong stinkies, you still do not get it, PAP government is there to make more money for themselves and their relations and you goodu Stinkies give them the mandate to do so. Stinkapore is a country of idiots…hahhahhah

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  • prices up up n away:

    Mini war going on btwn sg & msia.
    Hope it doesnt escalate into anything bigger.
    Much of our fresh grocery stuff comes from our neighbour..
    Prices oredi shot up at wet markets .
    Yesterday the indian stall at my hawker center raised the price of his delicious vadai..from 60cts to 70cts. Ai yo yo…

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  • Angry motorist:

    What has this ex msian Cow done for Sporeans?

    Only good at sucking up to Familee cos he’s grateful.

    Vote out all ex msian ministers.

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  • C'est la vie:

    And to top it all off, the “geniuses” decided to name it RECIPROCAL road charge, as a clear message directed at Malaysia.

    It is precisely this manner of arrogance, flawed sense of justification and self-righteousness, that the Terrexes are where they are, and continue to be so.

    Get off your high horses, Mr Singapore, the view and issues are “different” on the “ground” !!!

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  • singaporean:

    Whoever wrote that conveniently forgot to compare the actual prices of vehicles in Singapore and Malaysia.

    If Singapore does not implement these charges on foreign vehicles, then it really makes it a mockery for Singaporeans when foreign cars drive on our roads n pay pittance.
    The government is absolutely correct to level the driving field, as it were, for all vehicles driving on our roads.

    Goods vehicles, unfortunately, falls into these rulings on vehicle charges.

    We cannot make it an exception because of the room for abuse. They will abuse at the slightest possible opportunity.

    Singapore could look into the possible waiver of some of the fees for perishable goods vehicles….. Then what is to stop them from abusing this leniency as soon as they are in Singapore.

    We must give the benefit of the doubt to our government and I believe they have our interest at heart.

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  • rukidding:

    Stupid Sinkie allows themselves to be “raped” by their own Garment which they themselves “elected”…..then now come back and Kaw Peh Kaw Bo ?

    You people are so funny !

    Its Good that China is now making a “mockery” of all the 70% Sinkies !

    If these few incidents still cannot “wake up” the 70%…then this place is a “foregone island”…better forget about “defending” it !

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  • MarBowling:

    The 2 MF Pee-Ms of Malaysia and RD are buddies! They have regular dialogue on how to make $ and more $$$$. To top-up their FAMILEE coffer as well as Finance Blady Big Projects like High-speed Rail system from KL to RD, etc. In 2014, Mai Hum started the ball rolling by increasing the VEP fee from $20 to $35 in the so-called $pat over the increases in VEP and toll fees and charges by both sides! Malaysia reciprocated by Increasing the incoming toll fees from RM2.90 to RM9.70, and introducing for the FIRST TIME a toll fee of RM6.80 for OUTGOING Singapore-registered vehicles when they leave JB for RD! As usual, RD reciprocated by MATCHING the increases in the toll fees to that of Malaysia(exit RD fee from $1.20 to $2.70) and also for the FIRST TIME introduced a ENTRY toll fee of $3.80 for both Malaysia-registered cars AS WELL AS our OWN Singapore-registered cars! Like the recent seizure of 9-toys saga by China, the PAPigs said it’s a LOONG-STANDING relationship they have with Taiwan for training our NS boys for donkey years without any incidents or dispute. Same reason the PAPigs are giving over the $pat in the increases in VEP and toll fees – LOONG-STANDING Policy of MATCH-MATING with his good buddy Ahjib! HoLee shit$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

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  • Get What You Voted, Stupid:

    Why read so much into a PAP excuse?
    The reason is given just for reason sake, not much into it except another way to profit from the situation.

    There will be no reprieve until the day something snap, like the economy, that everyone decided that it’s just to expensive to cross the causeway.

    Just like the PAP crony taxi companies, the rent will continue to rise until real competition sets in, before they decide to lower the rental, simple as that.

    Similarly, the country run by PAP will continue to decline, until a day when oppositions take over and have to rebuild the nation again.

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  • Angry motorist:

    It’s not flawed reasoning.

    It’s GREED, pure GREED my Friend.

    MIW can get away with murder. Serve 70% right.

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  • Malaysians go home la:

    Can tell many disgruntled Malaysians complaining here. Go back to your country if you can’t Ford to drive in. Malaysian vehicles are a nuisance in our roads.

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  • Lui Lai:

    I’m so so touched that Cow is concerned that Msia is discriminating against SPorean drivers.

    SPF discriminates against us when it concerns MIW and ordinary citizens. Will Cow speak up too?

    The justice system discriminates against us too. Will Cow comment?

    He won’t right? Because he’s a grateful slave to Familee.

    Why do we have to pay toll to LEAVE the country?

    Why is the regime protecting the oil industry with the 3/4 tank rule?

    Vote PAP out.

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  • Half truths ST:

    Today’s Half Truths ST has graphics on the various tolls and charges foreign registered vehicles have to pay in each country.

    But what is missing is the fact that SG registered vehicles have to pay a toll to LEAVE and RE ENTER the country as if we are paying very little or zero road tax to the insanely greedy PAP Govt.

    Half truths and PAP mouthpiece ST conveniently left out that info.

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  • Mad Cow:

    Mad Cow like all the paper generals are just slaves of Familee.

    Even to watch Chingay you have to pay.

    Why must pay to leave spore and pay to come back to spore?

    SG so poor that every cent also chase after?

    Cancer has invaded the Clown’s brain and he has gone mad with greed?

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  • Mad Cow:

    Leave as SG must pay toll; come back also have to pay.

    Why?

    We are not stupid so don’t just say it’s the greedy regime Long standing policy to match JB tolls and charges.

    But what is true is that it’s the Long standing policy of my family and clan NOT to vote PAP.

    It’s only fair to reduce road tax and get the oil companies to cut pump prices.

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  • Change We Must:

    I fully support the RRC. You must understand Singapore cars are paying most of the toll collected from the NSE. Indirectly Singaporeans are helping Malaysia to maintain their highway. Singapore roads collect toll during the peak hours. We also allow Malaysia cars free entry during off peak and weekends. Malaysia collect from us everyday and no free entry.
    In Singapore we pay through our ass to buy a car and the COE collected partially pay for our beautiful roads. In Malaysia,we pay our ass to drive on Malaysia highways. One is paid upfront and the other is paid every time.
    We just cannot let the cheap Malaysia cars into Singapore as they like, it will flood all our roads. Their car conditions and the way they drive will cause more problems for the Singapore motorists.
    The stretch of road leading to our checkpoints are first class and it needs money to maintain them, it is very costly. That stretch of roads need more maintenance than any other Singapore roads as the traffic along these roads are heavily used daily.
    So more toll collections at our checkpoints are justifiable.

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  • PAP also "drained" CPF:

    When he became PM L*L decided to outdo his father in collecting money. He raised the price of HDB flats (price more than doubled) and used it to “drain” the CPF accounts of Singaporeans to make them more dependent on PAP handouts and also to be able to pay his colleagues million $ salaries.

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  • Be fatir:

    A Govt must be fair and must explain fully any new charges or increases. Just saying “It’s our long standing policy to match Msia” is ridiculous and smacks of greed.

    Every new charges or increases lead to a rise in COL so the Govt must think things through and not be reactive and rash.

    This issue will be revived when the next GE draws near.

    Are the Scrooge and his Cabinet aware of the price increases in groceries and meals in coffeeshops that all those VEP and tolls have contributed to? Why such a heartless Govt who is already seen as self serving?

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  • Just1more:

    There is no logic. Each has its own agenda behind the scene but use other bullshit stories to hide.

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  • jaywalker:

    This is how our arrogant and useless government loses our most important friends/neighbours. First China and now Malaysia, later Indonesia. This is stupidity! And under the most flimsy excuse. We started this rubbish costing Singapoeans millions and now they are imposing these fees on our frriends in Malaysia. Why? Because of their greed for a few dollars.

    We should start the ball rolling by abolishing all these charges on both sides. We will have the best friends in the world.

    Can’t wait to see the backs of these jokers and pseudo Singaporeans who try to be more Singaporeans than Singaporeans.

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  • Terrexes Companion:

    Maybe they have the foresight to collect $$$ far in advance to help pay for our Terrexes storage fee at HK port which might be long held until the PM post gets changed hands lor.

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  • Angry driver:

    jaywalker:
    This is how our arrogant and useless government loses our most important friends/neighbours. First China and now Malaysia, later Indonesia. This is stupidity! And under the most flimsy excuse. We started this rubbish costing Singapoeans millions and now they are imposing these fees on our frriends in Malaysia. Why? Because of their greed for a few dollars.

    We should start the ball rolling by abolishing all these charges on both sides. We will have the best friends in the world.

    Can’t wait to see the backs of these jokers and pseudo Singaporeans who try to be more Singaporeans than Singaporeans.

    Well said.

    The msian transport minister pointed out that for 43 years SG had been penalising msian cars without reprisal.

    Greed is in PAP DNA.Extreme greed.

    Will any Minister see some sense? No, since they have become slaves to one Familee. Is Familee better than them? Of course not.
    R

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  • Same same:

    father:what wrong with collecting more money
    son :what wrong with collecting more money. same same

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  • V.:

    Singaporean need to pay COE to limit the number of cars on the road.(some more can only drive 10yrs)

    If no VEP charged on foreign registered vehicles, it wont be fair for us Singaporean driving Singapore Registered Vehicle.

    Totally supportive on government increasing VEP on Foreign Registered vehicles !!

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  • $8 ass unfit:

    If PAP thru the idiot $8 Kow wants to get more monies. he should at least come up with a better excuse than threatening Our immediate neighbour that should they in future decide to change the levy, they should consider PAP’s response! This is a shit tackling an international matter.

    Being an imbercile being musical chair move from one ministry to another and consistently proven he is too lazy to read, learn, consult or even beg to be properly equipped so that he can at least minimally fulfilled his function. After the ludicrous discharge of his duties at each of the ministries he was changed to, he was still retained on the musical chair showing the quality if the nepotic successor! Wonder what is the agenda that he is still retained and not expelled even for standing for MP. Such garbage makes GCT rationalization for minister’s multimillions pay package apart from the bloody $8 humonguous medical benefits the biggest joke in politics and a strong evidence of self gratification to satisfy their own greed and abuse of the mandate of the people, excluding the wiser non PAP voters.

    If LHL hopes to give PAP a chance to retain its supporters, the number of which has dwindled though surged in the last election, he should sacked the $8 kow before he totally destroyed the dwindling trust of the remaining supporters. The last GE surge has been variously interpreted and it will be darn stupid if LHL believes the polanpas’ interpretation. LKY institute and NUS are really poor example of academic wisdom as mentioned by some netizens tat bootlicking only focus on personal gains and destroy the integrity and dignity of tprofessionalism. They are risk to the nation for professional compliance to bootlicking bereft their sense of responsibility and professional ethics. One commonly erroneously associated with the view of anti pap interpretation is the rampant offer of citizenship as part of PAP survival. New citizens may be appreciative in their first General Election but when they begin to think of their welfare as Singaporeans, unless they bootlick which is good for PAP but destructive for the nation, will be a different story unless they took up the citizenship for better opportunity to emigrate to their adored countries, usually USA, Britain, Canada or even returning to their own country when they rig enough or the conditions improve.

    The retention of $8 kow shows conclusively the PAP management teams are not much better. Top rot bottom rot in tandem!

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  • Quiter:

    Now that My Transport Minister wants to charge Sg car 109 MYR to match the Sg VEP charges impose by Sg Gov

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  • jefftan:

    The truth and intentions is very vivid, nothing to do with
    Reciprocity.
    All the government want is money, and making it difficult
    For sgd to flow out.
    Imagine it is free and good flow of traffic, all shops and center
    In woodland turn into a ghost town.

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  • Samuel S:

    Jaywalker, now Singapore is aiming at USA, to tax USA imports if they introduce protective tax!

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  • LIONS:

    the MORE MONEY THEY LOSE IN THEIR FOREIGN FORAYS LIKE TOO BIG TO FAIL BANKS,THE MORE MONEY THEY COLLECT FROM YOU N ME.

    MORE TO COME.
    YET IDIOTS STILL CONTINUE TO GIVE THEIR MORE VOTES???

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  • PAP MONEY GRABS:

    Why is the greedy regime discriminating against SG motorists by not reducing pump prices?

    What a hypocrite Cow is?

    Cow is a Slave of Familee, happy to squeeze Sporeans for more money.

    I agree. Why must we pay to leave SG and pay again to return? Why? Why? Don’t give BS reason like must match Msia tolls.

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  • INGRAINED LIAR:

    Quote: “The money-crazy PAP Government tries to justify their latest increase on cross-border road charges by portraying it as tit-for-tat.”

    Well done – great exposure!

    This is yet another instance of PAP’s incorrigible and inveterate lying.
    For money and power, they will resort to any lie – unashamedly.

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  • Trust only myself:

    singaporean: Whoever wrote that conveniently forgot to compare the actual prices of vehicles in Singapore and Malaysia.If Singapore does not implement these charges on foreign vehicles, then it really makes it a mockery for Singaporeans when foreign cars drive on our roads n pay pittance.The government is absolutely correct to level the driving field, as it were, for all vehicles driving on our roads.Goods vehicles, unfortunately, falls into these rulings on vehicle charges.We cannot make it an exception because of the room for abuse. They will abuse at the slightest possible opportunity.Singapore could look into the possible waiver of some of the fees for perishable goods vehicles….. Then what is to stop them from abusing this leniency as soon as they are in Singapore.We must give the benefit of the doubt to our government and I believe they have our interest at heart.

    Match what?
    Then the govt must look into ways to lower our prices of vehicles to match those in Malaysia as well…..you fiaking idiot.

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  • Wither cpf?:

    How much money the clown prince need? ANOTHER round of price increase coming?

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  • Top in maths & science but:

    Long ago, Causeway built.
    Recently, 2nd Link and soon another causeway possibly.
    Near future, HSR.
    Eventually? Reunification of SG and MY?

    IB, dun be shocked. I am just asking a pertinent question.

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  • Top in maths & science but:

    By Accident Collect More Money:
    Malaysia collect more money from Singaporean cars
    - Malaysian citizens do not protest

    Singapore collect more money from Malaysian cars
    - Singaporean citizens do not protest

    By accident, both governments end up collecting more money.
    - and both Malaysian and Singaporean citizens are very happy
    - no protest

    Haven you realise since the Trump TPP TERREX Tripple T gangbang, they have started to cite excused to raise this tariff that tariff, this fines that fines?

    Times bad they need more money.

    Everything they will take from you.
    You have to feed whatever he wants.

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  • Lye Khuen Way:

    What a disgrace, our company! Of course, going by the Late LKY’s. moral of nothing wrong with collecting more money, the ruling party is just behaving ‘ normally ‘.

    Thanks, Leslie for putting all in perspective. And summarising the charges. And the Bull Shit from my beloved coverment!

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  • DOOM:

    Spore plate cars going to MY

    BELONGS TO

    Malaysians who are holding Spore PR visa.

    No Sporean goes to MY

    EVERY DAY !!!!

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  • singaporean:

    @ “Trust Only Myself”.

    Well such is life, unfortunately for the likes of you ,just walk.

    Happy walking…..In case you are not aware, there are buses and trains. Hope you can at least afford those.

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