Did PAP lie about water price increase?

(Below is a comment on my post. Did PAP lie? You decide.)

I can say without a shadow of doubt that PAP is LYING when it says current water price is not reflecting current cost of production. Since 1990 onwards, PAP has NOT provided any public utility that is priced below cost. The constant price increases for electricity & gas tariffs show this to be the case. In fact the current water price + taxes are already MORE THAN cover the current cost of producing potable water AND cost of processing waste water as well.

1. Water Tariff — covers cost of producing potable water.
2. Waterborne Fee — covers cost of processing waste water.
3. Sanitary Appliance Fee — covers cost of processing our shit & urine (in fact this is payment to 2 profit-making companies: SembWaste & Veolia).
** So far the above 3 items fully cover the water usage, waste water, shit & urine.
4. Water Conservation Tax — this is a penalty on water usage, currently 30% of Water Tariff.
5. GST — applied on ALL items above.
** Items 4 and 5 are already above & beyond the cost of water, shit, urine etc.

So where’s the justification for price increase to cover increase cost of water production?!?!

THE REAL REASON:-
PAP’s intention is to extract money from the people NOW in order to pay for FUTURE building of new desalination plants, new newater plants, new water treatment plants, R&D in water treatment, new sewerage plants, new underground water pipes, salaries & bonuses of extra staff & scientists & scholars, etc etc. And to do this money extraction as fast as possible.

An HONEST govt will come out & tell the people this is EXACTLY why the increase is required, instead of trying to BULLSHIT the people like they’re 3 yr old kids.

HONESTY will require accurate figures, costs & prices to be shown for past, present & future. Whether current & future projected govt revenue can cover all those new water plants, R&D, staffing etc or not. If future govt revenue cannot cover, then explain to the people why need to increase tax collection somewhere e.g. water tariff and/or water conservation tax. And proper analysis & justification for the amount of increase. Why 30%?!?! Pluck from the air?!?!?

Want to collect enough money in the shortest possible time and the rest of the money go into GIC & Temasek?!?!?

 

Phillip Ang

* The author blogs at LikeTatAlsoCanMeh.

 

 

 

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26 Responses to “Did PAP lie about water price increase?”

  • PAP cannot be trusted:

    This is just another proof that PAP cannot be trusted. It lacks openness and transparency. That is why it refuses to tell Singaporeans the actual cost of building HDB flats, more details on foreigners in Singapore, size of Goverment reserves, actual Budget surplus, etc.

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  • Lye Khuen Way:

    In a way they, the PAP didn’t lie. They told everyone that they must have more money! That’s a honest statement of Demand.
    But any of the rationale offered were blatant lies alright!
    No increase for so many years? What about the Composition Tax?
    That fancy Long term Marginal Price? Didn’t Dr Vivian assured us in 2015 August?

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  • conu eat shit:

    As the FOUNDING FUCKER had said “‘WHAT’S WRONG WITH COLLECTING MORE MONEY, AND SQUEEZING CITIZENS DRY.’

    THE FOUNDING FUCKER had said “EVEN IF I AM BEING LOWERED INTO MY GRAVE,I WILL GET UP IF ANYTHING GOES WRONG .

    THE FOUNDING FUCKER said “THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH” but he was sleeping at home shaking cock instead of attending parliament and meet the people session for about two years.

    THE FOUNDING FUCKER said “IF THIS IS NOT CORRUPTION,I DON’T KNOW WHAT IS”

    THE FOUNDING FUCKER had said “IT IS ALRIGHT TO WORK FOR THE ENEMY AND BETRAY YOUR COUNTRY SO AS TO SAVE YOUR OWN SKIN”

    NOW FOUNDING FUKER IN HELL WITH SATAN.

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  • New Egg Yoke:

    So many blatant Capital Crimes
    So little Gallows!
    Water under the bridge as usual.
    Daft nation
    Zzzzz.

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  • Bapak:

    And they get our urine free some more, knn.

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  • Bapak:

    Or GIC & TA-Ma-Di Sick in big trouble.

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  • voodooChild:

    Doesn’t this just screams “Lack of Foresight”! Leading to the desperation now.

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  • SJ:

    Some of the speeches at the protest hit some good points. I think Lim Tean was the most hard hitting, his video was posted to YouTube by SingaporeVoices channel. . .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtC3T_jWcRM
    He calls it a Masagos Water Tax Budget – A Tax on Life!

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  • oxygen:

    @ Phillip Ang,

    I SHARED YOUR THOUGHTS on this one – the water price hike is a POLITICAL DECISION – not just a mere imposition of immediate economic rationality.

    They even attacked Yahoo for factual reporting on the water price hike protest of just about 100 attendees – this is the measure of HOW POLITICALLY SENSITIVE this matter is.

    It was ROTATIONAL politicians war cry from every quarter in support beyond the Finance Minister – all unable to surge past their own fog of fiction putting out fake economic rationality like fanciful economic theory of Long Run Marginal Costs unquantified and unquantifiable (peasants don’t buy their political rhetoric) went silent mode leaving the approved media to do all those SOAPY hardsell of existential politics urgency WITHOUT ANY OF THE FINANCE AND ACCOUNTING NUMBERS TO BACK UP.

    Phillip Ang :PAP’s intention is to extract money from the people NOW in order to pay for FUTURE building of new desalination plants, new newater plants, new water treatment plants, R&D in water treatment, new sewerage plants, new underground water pipes, salaries & bonuses of extra staff & scientists & scholars, etc etc. And to do this money extraction as fast as possible.

    How could PAPpy’s position be credible when they tried to compress 10 years’ price increase into ONE YEAR other than a rush to revenue inflow and create AN ELEVATED PLATFORM of price basement to lift further adjustment ahead upwards from this SOON TO BE ELEVATED BASE??

    If they can ramp this down peasants throat, there will be a lot of other public goods and services which they can and will do the same – MRT fares up 30%, COE, ERP, and GST (from 7% to 10% perhaps is greater than 30% in one go for this one)

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  • clorox:

    i’m convinced ure spot on PA!
    what can we do abt it?
    can we do anything abt it?
    are we gonna do anything abt it?
    answer?
    not a damn thing!
    all no balls, no spine, no bravery, no guts…no more hope!
    all of us doomed to a slow and painful death!
    and boy do we deserve it!

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  • Monyet Hitam:

    Thanks Phillip for your unrelenting service to the daft Sinkies.
    Hope you are based abroad, dun be marked and hounded like the teenage blogger Amos Yee.
    If outside this God forsaken place, dun ever set foot here.
    We are as angry regarding the water price hike, as next in line will be the transport fare hike, then the GST hike, then the property tax hike, then the income tax hike — no end.
    Keep up the momentum hit list.
    PAP’s greed is insatiable like the snake swallowing an elephant.

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  • LIONS:

    Since no money to build new plants etc ,WHY NOT CUT DOWN ON OSTENTATIOUS THINGS like F1,GARDENS BY THE BAY,FT-SCHOLARSHIPS N A PLANNED MAUSOLEUM FOR HIS OLD MAN?

    aftet all,his old man told his TANJONG PAGAR grassrooters NOT TO WASTE MONEY ON basic things like TENTAGE ?

    The SUDDEN N RASH INCREASE OF 30 PCT IN WATER PRICE itself demonstrates the PAP GAHMEN’S TOTAL LACK OF PLANNING in the first place.

    What will they jack up next?
    Think we better prepare for 39 pct increases in ministerial pay.

    Many sg families are already facing financial difficulties making ends meet as many breadwinnwers have been MADE JOBLESS by Lee Ah Long’s “FTs will create more jobs for sgs” fantasy.
    Raising COL in this manner is NOT A SIGN OF A CARING N GOOD GOVT or is it bt PAP ARISTOCRAPS’ standards?

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  • Soulless Papist:

    This 30% water price increase is no different from a robbery scenario. The stolen money will be invested to sell to even more immigrants buyers in future, thus making more profits. No good can follow from such an initially evil act by this Govt. No pity for those who voted for them. You DESERVE every bit of it!

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  • Greedy Evil Corrupt Shameless:

    What is new? The evil ministars have been lying from day one to get their riches. The lied about their experience and their capability and stole from the people with the outrageous salaries they pay themselves.

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  • Albert:

    The figure of 30% came from the stupid professor who pegged it to general inflation without realising that half of our raw water has been capped at 3 cents per thousand gallons all this while.

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  • Ali Baba:

    Indeed this regime consistently lied in order to get to today’s supreme power. In truth, they are deceivers, cheaters and a bunch of political hooligans.

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  • KNN:

    Complain so much for fiack?!?!? Frankly you fucker Sinkies fully deserve all this!!! More price increases the better!! I hope GST goes up to 10% or 15%. You die is your biz!!!

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  • PAP Did Not Lie!:

    They just did not tell the truth, that’s all!

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  • rukidding:

    Good to note that P.A.P. seems to be on the road to “self destruct” !

    Lets hope those 70% Dafts can now start “to have doubts” !

    Hip,hip hurray…..!

    P.A.P. ship is beginning to leak !

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  • PAP Politicians Sleep Soundly:

    Politicians of PAP lied to govern for 50 years which was why
    -they need protection of their courts, cover ups of their hospital murder of vulnerable sick patients warded there to be healed, BUT KILLED,
    -they NEEDED to be shielded from truths available in the internet by CRIMINALISING ‘wrong’ BUT TRUTHFUL things,
    -they NEEDED election cooling,
    -the MRT KEEP BREAKING down WHICH is the NORM the PAP has NO GUTS to ask Sg to accept.

    AND why they NEED to built a SG smart Nation IF SG is SMART ENOUGH?

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  • ahloong misses mingyang:

    harry the ghost will jump from his urn and shout at daft ‘wats wrong with collecting more money?’ allow me to add the lower phrase ‘ so that my brilliant daughter in law can help you sinkies invest!’

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  • Other Inc Coming ???:

    oxygen:
    @ Phillip Ang,

    How could PAPpy’s position be credible when they tried to compress 10 years’ price increase into ONE YEAR other than a rush to revenue inflow and create AN ELEVATED PLATFORM of price basement to lift further adjustment ahead upwards from this SOON TO BE ELEVATED BASE??

    -
    Why the rush?
    Next, with expenditure growing faster than Revenue, MIWs got to “adjust” GST Rate, Income Tax, etc

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  • Side-Products:

    After waste water (sewage) being treated, there are two side-products,
    Solid side-product and NEWater
    Solid side-product can be used for fertilizer
    NEWater … everybody knows about it
    Both can be sold for profit

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  • Temasek LOOSING Big:

    Academically and politically-correctly, the writer kind of gracious enough, with sanity believe PAP lying because of NEED to COLLECT WAY WAY in advance expenses for FUTURE water-related production EXPENDITURE, and “EXTRAS” thrown in for Temasek AND GIC pockets.

    Treatment to the PAP NEED not be NO-HOLDS BARRED – I firmly BELIEVE only, privy to the PAP top echelon – they REALISED that in these few SHORT years to COME, Temasek/GIC has NO WAY, NONE at ALL to retrieve investment-STUCKED funds to REPAY DUE CPFs of the coming MASS MASSES of people waiting to COLLECT their ALL forms of CPF, be it CPF drawdowns (those who had indicated previously to delay their Min Sums due),those aged 55 collecting their usual aged 55 CPF (less applicable MS set aside), CPF Life payouts, and CPF Min Sum payouts coming due VERY SOON (esp those age 63 or near 65 now, these are those whose Min Sums are draw out in 20 year terms, which was replaced by the CPF Life).

    And BTW the earlier CPF Life payouts are FAST COMING DUE, and these are AMONG the more than 12 schemes choices given to select (which was reduced TO ONLY 2 as Thraman said, ‘based on feedback’ 2 choices is better than more than 12).

    In CONCLUSION, my view is ONLY the top echelon of PAP, is BEING MADE AWARE of ‘money drastically shortfall’ – AND it is a VERY CRITICAL DANGER ‘to have ANOTHER Tan Cheng Bok not “assassinated” in next EP election’.

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  • Clown Prince:

    70% dafts choose half truths and no truths.

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  • Jessie phua:

    Rich ppl and pappies and elites like me don’t bother about increase water price. We drink Perrier, Pelligrino water anyway, haha

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