ICE of USA playing punk with Amos Yee?

Amos Yee is currently still being detained in a detention center in Chicago, despite the ruling by Immigration Judge Samuel Cole granting the teenager asylum on Friday (24th March).

The 18-year-old has been detained since 16th December 2016 upon his arrival at Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport, in the United States of America (US).

TR Emeritus (TRE) understands that prior to him being granted asylum, Amos’s status was an “asylum seeker”, hence it is normal and within reasons for the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to detain him pending assessment and hearing.

However, upon Judge Cole’s ruling, Amos’s status has been changed to one of “refugee”, which has rights both under US domestic law and UN refugee rights.

If and only if Amos’s status is changed at the upcoming appeal, he is eligible for release and ought to be released.

Why then is he still being detained?

According to Mr Phil Robertson, Deputy Asia Director of Human Rights Watch, it could be the result of the “climate of fear created by President Donald Trump’s abusive policies”.

Sadly, it appears Amos has become a hostage to the climate of fear generated by Donald Trump’s abusive policies towards refugees and migrants, and the knee-jerk tightening of practices at U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement in response to the new President’s executive orders.

Even the lawyer who represents Amos on a pro-bono basis was surprised and commented that she “in 10 years she has never heard of this”.

“I’ve never heard of another case where someone has been granted asylum and has not been released, even if the government appeals” the court’s ruling – a right that ICE had not yet exercised or waived.

- Ms Grossman’s interview with CSMonitor.

According to Mr Kenneth Jeyaretnam who testified at Amos’s asylum hearing, he is surprised that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is even considering an appeal.

It’s hard to see how or on what grounds as the judgement was so comprehensive and so damning on many different issues.

In fact the lawyers at Grossman were surprised that Amos’ pleas would be opposed in the first place.

Why is ICE making things so difficult for Amos?

The teenage blogger could have been released after his initial assessment by an asylum official, but he was not. Amos could have been released pending his asylum hearing, but he was not. Even after his asylum was granted, Amos should have been released pending an upcoming appeal, but he was not.

Why so, why is ICE making things so difficult for Amos, a supposedly weak and harmless teenager?

Could it be that they (ICE) were suffering from a weak-knee syndrome due to the executive orders issued by the ‘the most powerful and richest man on Earth’ and therefore dare not risk their rice-bowl?

Could it be that they were instructed to do so after a certain ‘most powerful and filthy rich man in the most expensive city on Earth’ made a call to ‘the most powerful and richest man on Earth’?

Or maybe they are just buying time and toying with Amos to hopefully wear him down mentally, forcing him to so something stupid so that they can use that as an excuse to revoke his right to stay in US, during the appeal?

What do you think?

 

P/S: Mary, the teenager’ mother has not heard from Amos since he was granted asylum. According to Mr Kenneth, Amos has a routine of calling her mother from prison often. Phone card no funds, need to top up or kenna solitary again?

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Update 30th March @ 0100 hours: Although Amos continues to be detained, it appears that no appeal has been lodged with the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR) aka United States Immigration Courts.

 

 

 

 

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40 Responses to “ICE of USA playing punk with Amos Yee?”

  • oxygen:

    I AM TAKEN BY SURPRISE that US Dept of Home Security (DHS) even appeal – like a said all along. DHS have NOT refuted that Amos Yee’s fear is well-founded. As this is the sole and determining criteria of assessing his legal status as a refugee under the Refugee Convention Article 33 1 (A), the DHS is likely to be in breach of this convention which USA is a signatory.

    So I agree with Keneth Jeyaretnam’s observation -“it’s hard to see how or on what grounds as the judgement was so comprehensive and so damning on many different issues.”

    Sandra Grossman got to be surprised too.

    Maybe DHS is playing the hardball to dragging in out or/and forcing Sandra Grossman to take it to the US Supreme Court (again on pro bono basis for Amos Yee) to wear out both of them financially and emotionally.

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  • Sharon Ann Gabriel:

    Uncle Sam is no longer united. When the POTUS issued an executive order to ban Muslims from entering, the judiciary ignored his order. Now it is the POTUS’ turn to play the same game and undermine the judiciary. Amos Yee got caught in the crossfire but he will come through unscathed. The judiciary is likely to be on his side.

    Mod: POTUS refer to the President Of The United States. :)

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  • oxygen:

    BY DETAINING AMOS YEE after Judge Samuel Cole’s decision, Amos Yee is certainly DENIED of procedural fairness – i.e detention without guilt or wrong yet again. It is miscarriage of justice and quite possibly offends the law of false imprisonment, so it might be worth while for Sandra Grossman to seek an interlocutory order for AY’s immediate release.

    HOW AND WHY IT IS HAPPENING?

    Sandra Grossman, as AY’s attorney, may urgently needs to seek clarifications from DHS what ground/s justify AY’s continued detention whilst appeal is pending.

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  • Until the fat lady sings:

    Until the fat lady sings – until the whole world became more aware of the persecution of the underage, that could be the collaborated purpose, like a spy movie…. LOL
    I see it as the best casino PayOut ever, too good to be true, the named versus unnamed.

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  • New Egg Yoke:

    Snake sense tells us the long reach of the pink dress has reached the land of the Freed but not Released, probably by dangling more of Tax payers’ monies to buy more US leftovers of anything. No doubts about it.

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  • Dirty hands at work:

    “Update 30th March @ 1200 hours: Although Amos continues to be detained, it appears that no appeal has been lodged with the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR) aka United States Immigration Courts”
    If the North Korean brother can be murdered in broad daylight in KL, don’t be surprised if our CPF will be used to hire thugs in USA to do pinky’s dirty job. Recall how Francis Seow was trailed by agents when he was settling down in the states.

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  • Boh Kia See:

    My feeling is that the Singapore Government is behind all these shadow moves. They are asking the US to appeal on the strength of what the Law Society is coming out to say.

    This kind of underhand activity is within the realm of PAP’s total vindictiveness. So it would not surprise me that it is the case. I think other people have also voiced that opinion.

    The Law Society thinks that so long as there is due process then it is fine–and not persecution. That kind of reasoning would justify Hitler for killing the Jews as there was a procedure to follow. It was also lawful then. This is how beaucratic the whole Singapore has become.

    Nothing out of the ordinary in this situation, one has to expect it. Even if the appeal fails AY will still face further hurdles–put up by you know who.

    The issue should be publicised further to illustrate how the Singapore Government in general and the PAP in particular is treating their own citizens. Canada and Europe need to know it too.

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  • Limbo rock:

    After Trump’s takeover, the administrative and judiciary are in a tug-of-war with each other, with no winner in sight. No body wants to make a move. That’s the situation now.

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  • KNS:

    The spoilt brat and dishonorable son is the number 1 suspect behind this unprecedented detention.

    No surprise from such a small man.

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  • Darkvinder Sha Mugen:

    Boh Kia See:
    My feeling is that the Singapore Government is behind all these shadow moves. They are asking the US to appeal on the strength of what the Law Society is coming out to say.

    This kind of underhand activity is within the realm of PAP’s total vindictiveness. So it would not surprise me that it is the case. I think other people have also voiced that opinion.

    The Law Society thinks that so long as there is due process then it is fine–and not persecution. That kind of reasoning would justify Hitler for killing the Jews as there was a procedure to follow. It was also lawful then. This is how beaucratic the whole Singapore has become.

    Nothing out of the ordinary in this situation, one has to expect it. Even if the appeal fails AY will still face further hurdles–put up by you know who.

    The issue should be publicised further to illustrate how the Singapore Government in general and the PAP in particular is treating their own citizens. Canada and Europe need to know it too.

    Does GIC have investments in usa?

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  • Hot Milf:

    Can Trump use this opportunity to make sg Side with USA against china?

    If so, Amos is toast.

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  • Vindictive like PAP:

    DHS has 30 days to appeal. It will likely keep AY in jail for 30 days then announce it is not appealing the US judge decision. DHS is as vindictive as PAP.

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  • Contradiction:

    I wonder if the Singapore embassy will be obligated to assist him in any event.

    Seems like he has no one to turn to.

    He also quite unlucky. If Hilary was elected then this shouldn’t have been a problem.

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  • LIONS:

    well,since THE DONALD DUCK is more anti-islamic extremists,i find it queer to see the DHS ‘securing’ AMOS in the prison cell as AMOS is with DT as far as islamic extremism is concerned?

    i can only link this ‘wayang’ to the GOVT’S(SIA) PURCHASE OF BOEING costing BILLIONS which more closely suits DT’s ‘BUY AMERICA’ SLOGAN?

    LEE AH LONG attempts to PLEASE DT striaght after his election victory n before inauguratiion,the timing of that SIA PURCHASE was simply perfect,huh?

    so,i $cratch your back,you scratch mine n who is AMOS TO POTUS anyway???

    this is a tricky situation and DT will have THE WHITE HOUSE will have the final say ultimately.

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  • KNN:

    ICE & DHS just tekaning him & trying to pull a fast one. But this is illegal. What his lawyer need to do is to go back to court & get judicial order for him to be released unconditionally. The longer they keep him locked up illegally, the higher chance he can sue the govt. In US, the govt is routinely sued & damages can be in the millions of dollars.

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  • Heart of glass:

    I feel LHL will get AY back to serve out his NS…by hook or by crook…just to achieve the upper hand. You all think he is going to let it go just like that?.
    His vindictive nature wont allow it.
    So the stalling may have something to do with that..
    Just my thoughts.

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  • Limbo Rock:

    Nothing further from the truth. Could be TRump telling LHL to buy their F-35 or they send AY back.

    Heart of glass:
    I feel LHL will get AY back to serve out his NS…by hook or by crook…just to achieve the upper hand. You all think he is going to let it go just like that?.
    His vindictive nature wont allow it.
    So the stalling may have something to do with that..
    Just my thoughts.

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  • A Nation Of Dumb Parrots:

    Still so much sourgraping over Amos.
    No end to fuss over him. Cannot bear to see him set free?
    Why dafts still bothered by news of someone they detested and wanted to get rid of, who just told the simple truth of political tyranny of old fiack?

    Yes, the greedy evils got a slap from a kid, but what’s the big deal?
    They already rape the dafts of billions.

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  • Darkvinder's dead sugar daddy:

    Its unlikely Amos will be set free.
    He is likely to be DEPORTED back to True Democracy aka sg.

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  • L*L played punk and got karma:

    L*L played punk with AY and got it back in spades. His pettiness and vindictiveness got him some well-deserved karma. Now the whole world knows FOR SURE that PAP is running a police state in Singapore. PAP credibility and legitimacy out the window. In a police state the judicial system is definitely rigged and cannot be trusted. That is why the counter-arguments put forward by the Law Society and the ACLS are irrelevant.

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  • maybe baby:

    Amos is going to be used as a bargaining tool?
    nothing is f.o.c these days.
    yea, something is in the works.
    they don’t tell us these things…TOP SECRET.

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  • Concerned Housewife:

    What Amos a teenager from Singapore goes through is amazing. Some Hollywood Directors better start talking to Amos Yee, for a movie entitled ‘AMOS YEE’. A win win situation.

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  • BuyMeBakKutTeh:

    Let’s pray for Amos… he has more influence than all of us added up to take on Pap… let’s hope he be released soon!

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  • Lanjiao to U:

    Get lost.

    A Nation Of Dumb Parrots:
    Still so much sourgraping over Amos.
    No end to fuss over him. Cannot bear to see him set free?
    Why dafts still bothered by news of someone they detested and wanted to get rid of, who just told the simple truth of political tyranny of old fiack?

    Yes, the greedy evils got a slap from a kid, but what’s the big deal?
    They already rape the dafts of billions.

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  • chloe:

    PM Lee has yet to learn his lessons. He just received a rebuttal from an American judge, and yet goes on with his witless way of “governance”. The handling of Amos’s persecution proves once again his incomptence at politics. With Mas Selamat, he could have got Wong Kan Seng to “offer to resign” and then reject the resignation. Both lacked the balls to put up a charade that would appease the outraged public. And more recently, he made sure that the anal doctor Koh Poh Koon who was rejected at the polls as the son of Punggol got “elected” into parliament via the GRC cheat route. If only papa was buried instead of cremated he would have risen from the grave to give him a tight slap.

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  • A Shakespearean tragedy:

    Heart of glass:
    I feel LHL will get AY back to serve out his NS…by hook or by crook…just to achieve the upper hand. You all think he is going to let it go just like that?.
    His vindictive nature wont allow it.
    So the stalling may have something to do with that..
    Just my thoughts.

    LHL is acting like a spoilt brat sulking in the corner because he can’t have his way. The tragedy for Singapore’s future generation is that 70% put him in office to lord it over us like some North Korean dictator.

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  • RDB:

    And now you @A Nation Of Dumb Parrots: March 30, 2017 at 5:05 pm (Quote) is clearly telling the world of people in this Internet issue that it IS you what IS DUMB PARROTof PEE AND POO dirt! No meh?

    Have you not told everyone out here that you HATE Amos Yee as LHL-PAP HATES his guts & cleverness? So, what is your only give away of your zero patriotism? Read yourself from head to toe and to your ‘tail” too you SOUR GRAPE lky-pap sinky mentality yar! Now read yourself here I quote your sourness to quench your thirsty for the blood of Amos Yee for LHL to do as he please as follows:

    @And now you @A Nation Of Dumb Parrots: March 30, 2017 at 5:05 pm (Quote) clear professed of:

    “Still so much sourgraping over Amos.
    No end to fuss over him. Cannot bear to see him set free?
    Why dafts still bothered by news of someone they detested and wanted to get rid of, who just told the simple truth of political tyranny of old fiack?

    Yes, the greedy evils got a slap from a kid, but what’s the big deal?
    They already rape the dafts of billions.
    Rating: +8 (from 12 votes)”

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  • Obama?:

    Obama has expressed his fondness of Sin-nepotic l’orrible II. Though he was replaced by Trump, could he be having his fondness extended to holding vigil for l’Orrible?

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  • Dukuguk:

    Sincere advice to ICE of USA

    Never play punk with Amos Yee

    If You do, Amos Yee will Let you
    know the taste of hell when he is
    released.

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  • Christine Chan CB:

    Hen is in usa on “working visit”

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  • TheBastardPAPParty:

    he blaspheme christian
    USA is mostly christian
    so they have to be sure he is OK to enter USA

    they also are careful and they dont want religion war in USA

    they are afraid that amos might get KILL in USA by Islamic extremer

    Amos speak good english but they find amos not very bright

    so they detain him for further investigation and analyst

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  • Cool Guy:

    @ Can Trump use this opportunity to make sg Side with USA against china?

    No need , China already against China.

    https://www.taiwanfansclub.com/article-668846-1.html
    趙薇全身而退!留下憤怒的股民和半死的萬家文化

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  • Cold Guy:

    https://wallstreetcn.com/articles/3002213

    魏桥集团紧急求援:“我们遭到做空势力的绞杀”

    This company world 500 , china’s top 10.

    Standard only like ?

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  • Cold Guy:

    Correction .
    China’s private company top 10.

    Just look at what the independent china chinese are saying …

    魏桥创业不到最后时刻是不会做这种事情的,庞氏骗局就怕利率高,做空报告出来后,魏桥的债券利率已经上涨到10%,假设真如报告所说2000亿银行贷款,利息负担200亿,毛利显然远不能超过200亿,已经进入纯粹庞氏骗局要爆炸阶段了。

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  • connect the dots:

    Christine Chan CB:
    Hen is in usa on “working visit”

    Hen is defence minister, right? He controls the budget to plurge on the F35, right? Amos is yet to be released from detention, right?

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  • PAP 2 kill or not 2 kill Amos?:

    So is PAP out to destroy Amos’s future in the US ? Come on PAP/LHL, don’t tell us you can’t even spare a former Singaporean teenager’s better future in the US ?

    Remember there is always karma, if you destroy someone’s kid with reason, there is also a high possibility the same kind of fate can fall on your own kids. Just look @ LKY, his last public image wasn’t really that good because of what he had done to make many other people suffer at his hands without fair reason.

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  • FPS:

    Heaven keeps showing karmic signs to the pappies but the latter kept ignoring these :
    1) former Edn Minster suffered stroke
    2) pinky himself almost collapsed at ND rally last year
    3) Terrex got detained

    Must wait for heaven to show more signs then will become enlightened, is it?
    An old Chinese saying : “One will not cry unless one sees coffin” is aptly appropriate here.

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  • Lee Gan Yew:

    Darkvinder's dead sugar daddy:
    Its unlikely Amos will be set free.
    He is likely to be DEPORTED back to True Democracy aka sg.

    Or, as far back as March 30, your sir have prophecies that Amos will be repatriated to sg.

    Indeed politics is very simple and predictable as long as you understand how dirty it is and what politicians are made of.

    A chicken went to USA on a work visit.

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  • Desmond Lee Ah Suan:

    You all got notice that TRE and TOC never reported on the Appeal by usa gov against asylum of Amos?

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  • Desmond Lee Ah Suan:

    connect the dots: Hen is defence minister, right? He controls the budget to plurge on the F35, right? Amos is yet to be released from detention, right?

    Money talks.
    Politics is politics .
    Using the entire machinery to quash a child.
    Everyone circle room and and watch the murder.

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