Skills training is false hope for jobless Singaporeans

The PAP government likes to spread propaganda saying that if you are jobless, all you have to do is to go learn a skill that is in demand, then you will get employed. It sounds so easy, right?

It is wishful thinking that a simple change of skills can guarantee jobs.

In reality, taking up short term courses can only teach very low entry skill sets. Even if it is cooking or very basic programming skills, we will be fighting against people who are much more established in such skills and demanding much lower wages. So it is a complete waste of time to go to skillsfuture courses and think you have gained a skill. What you have learnt are very basic skills and any foreigner who sets his eyes on that field would have a much more experience and in depth knowledge of that field, definitely more than what your course teaches you. Going to courses is not going to give you a degree in that field, so it is less recognized. Any foreigner can beat you, even with a fake degree. At best, you can only get a temporary job with low salary, despite wasting your time attending such courses.

If I go and attend a course on programming, can I fight an Indian developer who is probably 10 times better than me in programming and who is more than happy to get a quarter of my pay? Not to mention that he probably has over 10 years of working experience in that field in his country. In short, we are damned if we lose our jobs especially for PMETs.

I urge the PAP to stop giving us false hope that giving up on your specialized field and taking up useless courses are going to improve your employability and solve your retrenchment woes. We are already suffering, so stop insulting our intelligence with your out of touch feel good rhetoric.

 

Anon

 

 

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27 Responses to “Skills training is false hope for jobless Singaporeans”

  • Old Boy:

    The writer should not generalize saying that going for a course does not guarantee you jobs. There are many individuals I know outside who have changed lines and yet are now working comfortably. Why do you want to pit someone (a FT) who have 10 years of experience, when you have none? Its not comparing apple to apple. If you want to change line, then be brave and start small. It is this kind of mentality that before starting you say you have lost – that nowadays FT becomes the king. Don’t let them be, be the masters we were meant to be.

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  • Don't Count On it:

    The courses are even shallower than those diploma/degree levels.

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  • Tan Ngan Lorr:

    @ Anon

    stupid. If you don’t have anything positive to say, then stfu and don’t discourage Sinkies who are desperate for work. Not all of them can migrate. We need to build each other up and rally behind our government in their efforts to help those are unable to cope with rising costs. Alternatively, maybe you can propose something better. You are after all a self proclaimed genius!

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  • KNN:

    Those who are blindly supporting PAPies on their BS skills training, changing industry etc are all having vested interests & self-interests. Either they are the companies selling all these crap programs or they are the ones taking up those courses and need to have positive reinforcements to say they have done the right thing.

    I have some involvement in all these talk-cock re-skilling, up-skilling, side-skilling, what-fiack-skilling ever since 2003/2004 when Sia Suay was pretending to be Zorro & singing about Upturn The Downturn. Majority of companies providing & selling all these courses are fly-by-night fiack-you-just-give-me-money companies run by unscrupulous people. Many of them are in fact PAPpy-related & are members of YPAP. They will put a very high price on their courses and claim from govt using the various skills programs.

    Polytechnics are also involved in this scam programs, from short courses conducted in the evenings & Saturdays, all the way to 3-year diploma programs. Like the fly-by-night companies, polytechnics also take advantage and charge sky-high prices, which they claim from the govt. E.g. they will charge diploma courses at $90,000 even though the actual full cost paid by non-subsidized foreign students is only $30,000. You can tell that all this skills training is not only a useless propaganda to dumb Sinkies, but more insidiously it is LEEgalised corruption for companies & connected-individuals to charge sky-high prices and then claim from govt using taxpayer monies.

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  • PAP has the mandate:

    daft and gong gong stinkies never really tested the indians and they think that indians are good in IT. They are not good but just cheap. They group together and play games with Sintkies by keeping information from gong gong stinkies. Goodluck stinkies….hahaaaaahha

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  • RDB:

    A. Thank you 2 of ZZZ.. zzz Cheapererrest Bettererrest Fastererrest Past Tense Lee Kon You’s “DAFTERERREST” on=professional workers oldies clowns of Lee Kuan Yew’s DAFT factory products display for the whole world to see!!! More WHY SO? See my replies in question to both after their comments as follows

    1. @Old Boy: April 18, 2017 at 7:13 pm (Quote)

    The writer should not generalize saying that going for a course does not guarantee you jobs. There are many individuals I know outside who have changed lines and yet are now working comfortably. Why do you want to pit someone (a FT) who have 10 years of experience, when you have none? Its not comparing apple to apple. If you want to change line, then be brave and start small. It is this kind of mentality that before starting you say you have lost – that nowadays FT becomes the king. Don’t let them be, be the masters we were meant to be.
    Rating: -8 (from 16 votes)

    Q1: PAP completely & holistically for all professional that Anon talks about is it? Are you circumspect?
    Q2. What talking you w/o reference to CECA by LKY Scrooge Stooge PM2 for free flowing in of IT professional from India especially?
    Q3. Do you know the score for PAP govt and the ever increasing lost cause for our young IT graduates & professionals Anon used specifically for illustration?

    Q4.

    2. @Tan Ngan Lorr: April 18, 2017 at 7:51 pm (Quote)

    @ Anon

    stupid. If you don’t have anything positive to say, then stfu and don’t discourage Sinkies who are desperate for work. Not all of them can migrate. We need to build each other up and rally behind our government in their efforts to help those are unable to cope with rising costs. Alternatively, maybe you can propose something better. You are after all a self proclaimed genius!
    Rating: -9 (from 17 votes)

    @Don’t Count On it: April 18, 2017 at 7:26 pm (Quote)

    The courses are even shallower than those diploma/degree levels.
    Rating: +7 (from 9 votes)

    I shall continue tomorrow as its been a long day for me and am feeling too drowsy after even a light supper. meantime, other may continue with my question from A1. Q4, onward.

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  • Bernard K:

    The challenge to this (skills training) has been well put by Indergit Singh of the PAP, not a parrot nor a barking dog. A practical man rather than an ideologue, nor a political bureaucrat trying to be populist with more white elephants and initiatives that go nowhere.

    Example: ‘It is a pity that after spending so much in research, I believe in the region of over $40b in the last 20 years, Singapore has not scored well in innovation and creation of enterprises despite the large amount of money spent.’

    http://www.theindependent.sg/ex-pap-mp-inderjit-singh-on-cfe-report-government-remains-in-denial-about-worrying-state-of-the-economy/

    More pertinent to the article his comments are:

    ‘I think the issue with PMETs who lose their jobs and go for reskilling is that they go through a training programme without knowing if they will get a job at the end of the training. To encourage more people to upgrade themselves, the government should start the reverse way – match PMETs to jobs and then they go through a OJT or part-time training programme.’

    That is the reason why only 6.3% that are eligible took up the training programs. I have also yet to see the data that shows how many actually got jobs because of this training. The biggest benefactors are the companies that do the training. This is akin to paying teachers to teach students that wont get a job. Some of these short courses cost as much as a degree on an annual basis.

    PAP government is still hooked onto the bygone industrial landscape of mass training, mass production, mass propaganda. The new competitive edge is about individual personality. Hence, while the word passion about this and that has been widely used its highly diffused, the deeper connection to passion is about the person and his innate abilities. And this is obviously linked to freedom of expression etc, which Spore ranks badly.

    The good news is that the failure of TPP has pushed PAP to put more effort into SMART NATION. By default, I believe this is going to be the platform that will propel more entrepreneurs/SMEs. Jobs wont be coming from MNCs. Fortune 500 has been hiring less yearly. In Spore the ratio of MNCs to SMEs is about 8000/188,000. Our SMES employ about 70% of workers and growing.

    The other key factor long prophesied by Alvin Toffler is the conflation of the producer and consumer or prosumer. Again this is linked to personality-passion. The holy data of wealth liked GDP and globalization will be fundamentally changed by this social phenomenon.

    It is not that we consume less, but we produce more for our own consumption, whether it is urban garden, solar energy etc, it will have the effect of masking consumption from GDP figures. Skills training will be more pertinent for this social change.

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  • Amos humiliated L*L and PAP:

    What skills training did Amos get while in jail in Singapore? Legal training? It worked brilliantly. He “nailed” (beat to the pulp) L*L and PAP big-time in US court. Even LKY would have been proud of him. Amos is a real “game changer” for Singapore. He demolished PAP’s credibility and legitimacy so badly it could not repond. Bravo.

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  • opposition dude:

    Of course PAP has to constantly bring up the learn new skills bullshit, how else to fool the dafts right?

    With an ever increasing number of non Singaporeans each passing year the future can only look bleak for us. Let’s all do our part in the next GE hey?

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  • LIONS:

    quite seriously,the people who need SKILLS UPGRADING are the MIW$!!!

    THEY ARE ‘HORRIBLE’!

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  • isn't that silly:

    70% of them were hopeful for a secured life to be able to feed their family, but only to be disappointed, sold-out and displaced and instantly became a third class citizen in their own country without a job. And worst, humiliated and barraged by the IBs engaged by the you know who?. Now isn’t that silly with their choice or not?

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  • Anon:

    It is never an entire waste of time undergoing any form of training. Training and learning is about disciplining the body, sharpening the intellect and honing perception and the senses. If approached with the right attitude even learning flower arrangement (see Zen and the art of Flower Arrangement ) can transform ones outlook and attitude and make one irresistible to a potential employer, even a biased one, because ulitmately whoever is employing wants to look good.

    Having said all that there is no doubt that the govt needs to level the playing field since it is clear that foreigners are more ‘hungry’ and prepared to take what is given than locals. But it be hooves locals to make themselves indespensible to employers. It is still true that nobody owes you a living.

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  • Political Observer:

    PAP has been Faking sporeans for a long time. Now they are trying to legislate about fake news..Please clean up your own house before you try to threaten the innocents sporeans who communicate through the social media. The shit times is the propaganda machine of the PAP.
    This so called skill training is another fake news to deviate from the real issues like CPF etc.

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  • hhhsit:

    PAP is importing millions of FTs to replace locals. So to appease locals and tell public they are helping, they set up all these agencies such as WDA, E2i, WSG and skillforce to tell public they are helping and why locals are useless and need to upgrade.

    If you look at WSG ads, it is always career coach or resume writing, nothing else.

    My friends you keep voting PAP, PAP non stop importing FTs, surely more and more locals will be replaced. They will tell you these agencies can help but they are just merely for show.

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  • Boh Kia See:

    One needs to understand the reason for being made redundant or losing one’s job. Going for skills training assumes that you are unemployed because you are deficient in your skill set. That, in many cases may not be the reason for being unemployed.

    So after many years of experience as a PMET–you go for skills upgrading in what? Is you experience worth nothing? Do you go for training in word processing and work as a clerk?

    While there is a place for upgrading skills, it is not a panacea to cure all employment issues.

    Never assume that simply because a PMET is unemployed he is lacking in skills. There are other reasons and they have to be examined and corrected.

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  • gave up:

    no job meaning no income to pay for this bill that bill .. stress until dont know like what liao .. where got heart and soul to go study?

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  • Greedy PAP Created Huge Mess:

    Old Boy:
    The writer should not generalize saying that going for a course does not guarantee you jobs. There are many individuals I know outside who have changed lines and yet are now working comfortably. Why do you want to pit someone (a FT) who have 10 years of experience, when you have none? Its not comparing apple to apple. If you want to change line, then be brave and start small. It is this kind of mentality that before starting you say you have lost – that nowadays FT becomes the king. Don’t let them be, be the masters we were meant to be.

    This is far from generalisation. The root cost is that companies are free to exercise prejudice and hire cheaper foreign workers. You could already see this in the many hired foreign general workers without any specialized skillsets.
    As for specialized vocations, PMET and what not, many experienced older local workers are also displaced by younger, cheaper and generally lesser experience foreign workers when compared like with like. It is no wonder that the SMRT are in perpetual failing mode. Many of the local engineers with knowledge and history of the work had been displaced when the saleswoman Paik xx helmed the company and cost cut to impress. Same for many telcos, shipyards, Chartered semiconductor, ST engineering group of companies. CEOs of these once government corporations got rewarded handsomely not by genuine growth, but through cost-cutting and outsourcing their core competencies, then killing the company and local jobs. CEO of Chartered is now in Temasek after selling the company at near zero share price. NOL is also gone. SPC is gone, Raffles hotel is gone. SMRT is struggling because it cannot be gotten rid of. The utilities are gone. its a hollowing out of the nation. Next will be the mass exodus of able and willing sinkies. So what is left after five decades of PAP rule?

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  • Ggg:

    Let’s be logical, half the workforce are foreigners, millions of FTs still being imported.

    Skillforce, WDA, E2i and WSG are for show.

    You are right, you line jobs to jobless PMETs and have them retrain, that will indeed help. But the reality there is no job, so these agencies playing hide and seek asking you to take this course and that course. And you need career coach and resume writing classes.

    These agencies can’t be too upfront to tell you they are for show. Once a while, they have a success, they go full page to tell you the program works. I have been to the trade shows and events, they are all for show, reporters armed to fabricate stories to appease locals. You ever ask those PMETs who attended? They also tell you they are for show.

    The art of deception and camouflaging our govt is expert, don’t be conned.

    Lastly why you keep voting them?

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  • Yasd:

    If half workforce are foreigners, keep importing more foreigners, more locals will be replaced, isn’t this logic?

    These agencies help what? Where’s your logic in understanding this all show to keep you dumb and naive.

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  • DeConstruct PAP Actors:

    Many a times, one invariably stupidly overlook this – who are the TRAINERS???

    WOW, by a few strokes punching on the keyboard, the PAP had easily magically within a couple of talk cock parliament sessions able to born a few dozens of qualified trainers overnight which they had NOT DONE FOR DONKEY YEARS. if they have had, why the PAP IS SO FRANTICALLY driving training and upgrading???

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  • Dafts Will Be Dafts:

    Unskilled migrant workers will lower the salaries of local unskilled workers. Skilled migrant workers will lower the salaries of local skilled workers.
    So dafts can do the matrix, which area is he or she able to compete with “skills retraining”, to compete with unskilled migrant workers on price or skilled migrant workers on price?

    In short, the writer is right. This is not a generalisation.
    It is economics 201. Advanced economies have known this for years. This is the very reason migration is controlled and regulated in countries where governments cost much less, but do a much more sensible job.

    That said, this PAP government is not the usual. It is the most expensive yet zero capability of running the country.

    In short, dafts sinkies are forever screwed if they do not kick the PAP out.

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  • RDB:

    I am not the least surprised I got 5 Thumbs down as there are already 70% DAFT in GE2015 just because PG payouts of 2 x $300 before polling & then last $300 after GE. Most I talked to do not see it as psychological ploy by L$L PM3 to play on the minds that his papa already prepare for him. The one his papa told a real foreign journalist that his arckia son is ” His is very much a man of his own”. When he asked that the general perception is that LHL is PM is because he is his son.

    Now back to the -5 votes I got. This is despite my genuine and and sincere explanation as to why I will continue today. The 5 are so stark clear that they are no less than the very DAFT that Lee Kuan Yew had made them to finally LABEL them EXACTLY THAT! Because, they obviously are not complete observers not thinkers who can reason reality pros & cons, let alone expect them to be circumspect thinkers!

    Why do I say this? Because biased minds are like a dead end roads where choose to get stuck. Because does not even know to reverse to find another route to reach one’s aim destination. Such a dead mind is fixated. Not flexible & what dictators love. All LKYism programmed? They will not admit to FEEL good BUT look DAFT! LHLL LKYism story end?

    @RDB: April 18, 2017 at 11:13 pm (Quote)

    A. Thank you 2 of ZZZ.. zzz Cheapererrest Bettererrest Fastererrest Past Tense Lee Kon You’s “DAFTERERREST” on=professional workers oldies clowns of Lee Kuan Yew’s DAFT factory products display for the whole world to see!!! More WHY SO? See my replies in question to both after their comments as follows

    1. @Old Boy: April 18, 2017 at 7:13 pm (Quote)

    The writer should not generalize saying that going for a course does not guarantee you jobs. There are many individuals I know outside who have changed lines and yet are now working comfortably. Why do you want to pit someone (a FT) who have 10 years of experience, when you have none? Its not comparing apple to apple. If you want to change line, then be brave and start small. It is this kind of mentality that before starting you say you have lost – that nowadays FT becomes the king. Don’t let them be, be the masters we were meant to be.
    Rating: -8 (from 16 votes)

    Q1: PAP completely & holistically for all professional that Anon talks about is it? Are you circumspect?
    Q2. What talking you w/o reference to CECA by LKY Scrooge Stooge PM2 for free flowing in of IT professional from India especially?
    Q3. Do you know the score for PAP govt and the ever increasing lost cause for our young IT graduates & professionals Anon used specifically for illustration?

    Q4.

    I shall continue tomorrow as its been a long day for me and am feeling too drowsy after even a light supper. meantime, other may continue with my…

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  • RDB:

    And so my continuation shall depend if it is worthwhile replies from that 5 after TRE publish my response to them. I don’t believe in wasting valuable time to reason with daft who do not. No apologies needed. And to the GE2015 30%, I trust it is obvious why. Time is precious and waits for no man. And I’ve wasted precious time to respond to them. As I trust too that the 30% need not me to enlighten. Period!

    And I thank you TRE Moderator for letting my comments through first time. Gracious!

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  • bertolucci:

    The skills retraining is just a distraction for the MPs who failed to provide jobs in other sectors.

    Now they’re trying to flood the IT industry with shallow skilled ‘programmers’.

    This would only make hiring for legitimate IT/CS grads even harder.

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  • Monies Transfer:

    Skill training is another loop hole to transfer monies from one pocket to another pocket. I do not see any high chances of getting a job!

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  • Meaningful training please:

    For the skill training to be useful,it should help the trainee to secure a job with at least half of the PMETs previous pay after training.Equally meaningless is after training they will still can’t even secure a meaningful job after such “skill ” upgrading.

    Some of the approved “skill” training course for PMETs are quite meaningless as it will only get them to start at a basic pay of S$1200 pm.How to survive and support their family with that kind of pay in Super expensive Singapore?

    Also many of the approved heavily subsidized “skill” courses are highly price…that the Skill future credit of $500 is not even enough…

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  • F The PAP:

    We keep on going for SkillFuture, at d end, still no job.
    PAP rookies, no need go Skill Future, no job but got TONS of money.
    Which one you choose.
    In SG, can be corrupted but do not get caught.!!

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