Oh no! Now its Li ShengWu?

I refer to the article “Li Shengwu, Lee Wei Ling surprised that Facebook post on Singapore court system enough to trigger AGC response” (Straits Times, Jul 17).

It states that “In a Facebook post on Monday afternoon responding to AGC’s statement, Mr Li said he was “somewhat surprised” that his last post – which was shared on “friends only” privacy settings – was enough to trigger a response.

He added: “I’m surprised that the Singapore government is so petty. Would they also like to trawl my private Facebook feed for seditious vacation photos?”

Mr Li’s aunt, Dr Lee Wei Ling, also commented on the matter in a Facebook post on Monday, saying that she was “surprised at the AGC’s negative reaction to a private post”.

“Is there a government servant whose duty is to follow the Facebook activity of all people related to Hsien Yang and I, including our private musings. What Shengwu posted is a common topic amongst Singaporeans who are well informed,” she wrote.

She asked: “Is this not an example of ‘Big Brother’ government,” using the famous phrase from George Orwell’s 1984 novel to refer to an authoritarian government which exercises total control over its citizens.

Senior Minister of State for Health and Communications and Information Chee Hong Tat was quoted by Chinese daily Lianhe Zaobao on Monday as saying that he was “disappointed” with Mr Li’s actions.

Mr Chee, who was the late Mr Lee Kuan Yew’s Principal Private Secretary from 2008 to 2011, added: “Is this respecting Mr Lee Kuan Yew and his values? I don’t understand why he continues to launch online attacks, after his father already said he was going to stop doing so.””

The Government’s reponse to the issue of the conflict of interest of the Attorney–General (A-G) being the PM’s personal lawyer just before his appointment was that “he was not advising the Government on any issue he had been involved with (relating to the Prime Minister) before he took on his post as A-G”.

So, isn’t there arguably, a conflict of interest to now say it “is looking into the matter” of Mr Li Shengwu for his recent facebook remarks given that he is the PM’s nephew?

Is it appropriate for the Government to use the media to say that it is “looking into the matter”?

Is it arguably appropriate or beneath the dignity of the Government – for a Minister to also “add oil to the fire”?

Where is the rule of law to protect the privacy and reputation of private citizens from what may arguably be akin to public chastisement in the media by the Government?

 

Leong Sze Hian

 

 

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44 Responses to “Oh no! Now its Li ShengWu?”

  • Richardloh:

    Guess agc is not as fast as questioning Lee aabuse of power as opposed to just a mere Facebook comment

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  • LIONS:

    Shengwu li is at least one young lee who dares to do the rightful thing.
    As for the juniors of HOLEE son,i rest my case.

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  • He Is A Typical Por Lum Par:

    That Right. AG said that he will not be involved as long as the issue is related to Pinky affair. But now he is looking into the nephew’s comment. Please don’t contradict yourself. How can we trust you ?

    Chee is trying to score as many points as possible. Typical PAP MP.

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  • Ah Fah:

    Ah Fah:
    Oh yes, Chee Hong Tat is trying to blacken Sheng Wu. Read this:

    徐芳达昨天答复媒体询问时说,李绳武“利用一些外国记者的看法来批评自己的祖父、诋毁新加坡和我们法院的信誉”。

    Sheng Wu’s private chat with friends on Facebook in Chee Hong Tat’s mouth becomes something else – Sheng Wu exploits the viewpoint of foreign media.

    Sheng Wu told his friends to have a look at an old case reported by NY Times. In Chee Hong Tat’s mouth, it becomes another thing again – Sheng Wu criticised his grandfather and defame Singapore and its courts.

    Lock Chee Hong Tay up for spreading fake news!

    Or, has Lianhe Zaobao sexed up the report?

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  • What dignity?:

    Mr Leong should be aware that Singapore is a PAP-run police state. PAP dignity is another oxymoron. In Singapore, it is not rule of law but rule by law and PAP is above the law. PAP is not only petty and vindictive but also a bunch of backstabbers. Ask Vivien Balakrishnan. He is an “expert” on the subject after he embarrassed himself in Parliament when he accused WP of backstabbing. He later found out that LKY was the “mother-of-all” backstabbers. That is how he defeated his political opponents and critics.

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  • Samuel S:

    AGC only acts on instruction.

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  • 鸟龍的人:

    "鸡风大"的意思是说:
    求求你们别再闹了
    我们还要養家糊口,你们再闹下去
    我们的百万薪水也跟着泡湯的

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  • PAPSURELOSE!!!:

    When boss asks AGC and CheeHong to jump, they ask How High? They never question why.

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  • Mainstreet Citizen:

    They’ve just proven Hsien Yang right that state organs were being used.

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  • Kolo:

    Seriously this minister doesn’t even deserve a single cent for his salary

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  • RESPECT OR NO BALLS?:

    Hardly a fortnight ago, on 3rd July 2017, the self-credited respectful and filial son, PM LHL, told Parliament (with crocodile tears) that he couldn’t bring himself to sue his siblings, LHY and LWL OUT OF RESPECT FOR HIS PARENTS. However, he can now bring himself to get the AGC (headed by his ex-personal lawyer Lucien Wong) to look into” ‘suing;; (taking court action against) his nephew Li Shengwu.

    What has happened to the $M respectful son within such a short time? Is he having impaired memory due to sudden, premature Alzheimer? Or has he CONVENIENTLY forget/lost respect for his parents?

    He is planning to take court action against Shengwu because it’s easier to bully a young nephew? Whereas he has no balls to sue his siblings LHY and LWL coz he knows they have strong additional evidence to present in court for their allegations?

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  • Sperm X:

    Who thinks chee Hong T was not asked to respond and he did it all on his own initiative and was not at the command of his boss?

    Regards
    These dogs must have ugly mothers

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  • Bystander:

    Dun dare sue own siblings, then change focus to nephew also can mah.
    Continue Korean drama to entertain us also can, life’s too boring, we need some more episodes to spice us up. Would lap it up with glee.
    The world community also waiting with abated breath.

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  • What's an hot shot:

    Wow, Chee Hong kia thinks that just becoz he has worked for old coot as office boy for 3 years,he can start lecturing to dead old coot’s grandchildren and everyone about values and how to behave like filial kids.

    Chee Hong, shut the fcuk up.

    Uncle here eats more salt than you eat rice. Yet Uncle will never pass judgement on other kids becoz one does not know everything about them.

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  • Abuse of rights:

    Dont ever for a second think that whatever we post on social media sites, is ever private.
    There is always someone snooping reading whats being written…we’d be fools to think otherwise..
    But the question here…LSW’s post was made public.
    A violation of a person’s rights.
    LSW should just sue till someone’s pants drops.

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  • 陈大婶:

    达哥说的对!孙子似乎不知道,国父精心设计,策划,制作,要党永远奉,遵守,国父伟大概念。让党永堕不朽。孙子不懂事,见怪莫怪 !

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  • Situation Getting Worse....:

    More and more Singaporeans are getting both angry and disappointed with the Gahment.

    Looks like there is no Rule of Law in Singapore anymore!

    Where is the honesty and integrity of our Ministers and MPs? No one dares to make a stand?

    Are we going down the drain as a Nation?

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  • Why King Charles1st executed:

    Is this his own initiative or was asked by his boss to say it?

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  • N.Jungne:

    Alarmak it’s Chee Hong again,.

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  • LIONS:

    oh,no,don’t let LI SHENGWU come down….
    (Ah,ah) Oh,no,dont let li shengwu come down.

    li shengwu,you have gain the admiration of many sgs who misunderstood you in the past including this old sgv uncle.

    there’s a simple beauitful song titled: DONT LET THE RAIN COME DOWN BY SERENDIPITY SINGERS…. JUST TO UNWIND…YOUTUBE.

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  • bamboo tan:

    chee hong tat should be the model of all singaporean!
    the perfect model of loyalty to leaders!
    learn to be loyal, singaporeans!
    that is the most important art of survival in today’s job market!

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  • Great mind:

    Great mind DISCUSS ideas.small mind-peple.average mind-event.
    Great mind = important peple.
    (Kindagarden enrollment 2018 begins.just for info.)

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  • Cronyism Exposer:

    Conflict of Interest Is So Clear

    LW should not be given the job of AG. Why?

    1. There are many more lawyers who are more qualified for the job than him but did not get it. If based on Meritocracy, he would not be selected for the job or sure.

    2. Base on past postings of AGs, experience in litigation and criminal laws are very necessary for the job. LW does not have such experiences.

    3. He is already 63 years old. In the Civil Service, compulsory retirement age is 62. If he were to be in the Civil Service then, he would have been retired last year already. So, it is clear that a special exception has been made for him.

    4. After being a close friend and a personal lawyer to PM Lee for so long, there must be a special bond between them. It is, therefore, humanly impossible for him to simply change overnight to divorce himself of any special sentiment, feeling, liking, or reverence for the PM. Therefore, there is bound to be bias in his decisions if he needed to prosecute the PM or any of his family members. Don’t you think so?

    5. He has sworn an Oath of Office to perform your duties without fear, favour, affection and ill-will. How can he fulfill this Oath without being in a dichotomy and dilemma all the time?

    6. By targeting Li Shangwu, isn’t he showing ill-will towards the son of Lee Hsien Yang from whom he was acting against on behalf of PM Lee Hsien Loong as his personal lawyer and representative for the last two years or so?

    7. By singling out Li Shangwu using an unethical method of snooping into his private post in the Facebook and then exposing it to the whole world, to then frame charges against him, isn’t he showing unfairness, injustice and violation of the rule of law?

    8. By exposing a private post in the Facebook, he is the one who is guilty of making the issue public. Therefore, he should bear full and total responsibility for whatever damages that may be caused by that private post to whatever institution or person, be it the court, the legal system, or whatsoever and whosoever.

    9. If by exposing the private post of Li Shangwu and he then turn around to charge him for any offence, is it not highly improper, unethical and immoral?

    1o. Shouldn’t he be ashamed of himself? How can he continues to hold onto the Office of AG?

    May God have mercy upon us!

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  • Aspiring Historian:

    On Politics and Politicians

    Winning is the name of the game.
    Abuse of organs of state is not to blame.
    Fear is used upon the masses in order to tame.
    Deceptive maneouvres are tactics to defeat the lame.
    Top politicians are good at telling lies without feeling shame.
    Grabing power is, of course, their ultimate aim.
    Thereafter, everything they get – money, status and fame!

    Aspiring Historian – 6:35 am, 19 July 2017.

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  • rukidding:

    Thank GOD for “crating” this incident and affairs.

    It is beginning to “exposed” the “Failure Inside Pap Clan”.

    People are beginning to “see for themselves” and “confirm” who are the “Balls Licker and Carrier”.

    What a shame,…..at least Indrjit Singh has the “Guts to leave” and had shown himself to be a “Man of High Integrity and Honesty”.

    Very sadly,….what I see now are “Man and Women from a Pimp and prostitute ( P.a.p. )”….where only “$$$$ and Power and Abuses” are the mot important and top reason for “joining that P.a.p. Group” !

    To HELL with these lot of “arseholes” !

    THEY shall all be “fixed” by the ALMIGHTY GOD !

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  • 骗的传人:

    达哥䝨哥楝伯伯3人用2年时间做和事老也没能说服龙哥与弟妹和觧.还搞成世界笑剧.要是耀伯伯还在会骂这3人kayu jiak liao bee.

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  • Top in Maths and Science:

    Cronyism Exposer:
    Conflict of Interest Is So Clear

    LW should not be given the job of AG. Why?

    1. There are many more lawyers who are more qualified for the job than him but did not get it. If based on Meritocracy, he would not be selected for the job or sure.

    2. Base on past postings of AGs, experience in litigation and criminal laws are very necessary for the job. LW does not have such experiences.

    3. He is already 63 years old. In the Civil Service, compulsory retirement age is 62. If he were to be in the Civil Service then, he would have been retired last year already. So, it is clear that a special exception has been made for him.

    4. After being a close friend and a personal lawyer to PM Lee for so long, there must be a special bond between them. It is, therefore, humanly impossible for him to simply change overnight to divorce himself of any special sentiment, feeling, liking, or reverence for the PM. Therefore, there is bound to be bias in his decisions if he needed to prosecute the PM or any of his family members. Don’t you think so?

    5. He has sworn an Oath of Office to perform your duties without fear, favour, affection and ill-will. How can he fulfill this Oath without being in a dichotomy and dilemma all the time?

    6. By targeting Li Shangwu, isn’t he showing ill-will towards the son of Lee Hsien Yang from whom he was acting against on behalf of PM Lee Hsien Loong as his personal lawyer and representative for the last two years or so?

    7. By singling out Li Shangwu using an unethical method of snooping into his private post in the Facebook and then exposing it to the whole world, to then frame charges against him, isn’t he showing unfairness, injustice and violation of the rule of law?

    8. By exposing a private post in the Facebook, he is the one who is guilty of making the issue public. Therefore, he should bear full and total responsibility for whatever damages that may be caused by that private post to whatever institution or person, be it the court, the legal system, or whatsoever and whosoever.

    9. If by exposing the private post of Li Shangwu and he then turn around to charge him for any offence, is it not highly improper, unethical and immoral?

    1o. Shouldn’t he be ashamed of himself? How can he continues to hold onto the Office of AG?

    May God have mercy upon us!

    But Singaporeans 99.99% dare not protest.

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  • kf:

    CHT has a mind of his own. Even the AGC is already keeping quiet on private matters after being bombed, and he still doesn’t keep his mouth shut. He is now the new icon for a moron.

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  • PLP To Advance:

    He Is A Typical Por Lum Par:
    That Right. AG said that he will not be involved as long as the issue is related to Pinky affair. But now he is looking into the nephew’s comment. Please don’t contradict yourself. How can we trust you ?

    Chee is trying to score as many points as possible. Typical PAP MP.

    Without this ‘Por Lum Par’ trick, this Chee Hong position is stagnant, and his million $$ salary also stagnant.

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  • Dr Tan Tai Wei:

    GCT told Parliament that this feud had been on for quite some years. So, also, this admission, all those years by two of three of LKY’s children, that LKY had been “big brother”, “abusing state institutions for personal vendettas, etc.”, “appointing state officials to check even personal facebook posts”, etc? For, surely, “Singaporeans who are aware and knowing”(cf. Dr LWL) know the system LKY built, which enables their big brother now in such manner as to cause LHY to fear and plan to seek exile, like Tan Wah Piow and others.
    Interesting that the majority within LKY’s own family could not be convinced of the wisdom and morality of LKY’s system, and yet he had been able to bring in so-claimed “the brightest and best” to uphold the system he built. These continue to acclaim him and it, whilst the majority, who knew him and it “from the inside” and whom he and wife had closely and sternly brought up and tutored, could see the system’s true morality and pitfalls. (Hopefully, this apparent blindness is not due to the financial cost of opening one’s eyes to see, as charged by Li Sheng Wu in an earlier post.)
    (By the above observations, we have to assume that when the “siblings” protest that they mean only to uphold papa’s legacy and values, they mean “values” other than those they now fear of LHL)

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  • oxygen:

    WHAT? Sinkieland’s cyber law extends its reach to sanction a FB comment keyboarded in USA?

    Whoa, Donald Trump must be infuriated that US freedom of speech is NOT respected by foreign law and trampled by foreign law jurisdiction extending its law command on its “America First” soil.

    My fertile mind starts to imagine this – an monkey-infuriated Donald Trump got up his hot seat, pulled down his pants and scratched his a*sehole in bewilderment of this foreign insult from a nearly invisible place on the global map.

    Only the DUMBEST of the DUMB politicians in Sinkieland fart gases for public consumption – adding fuel to ownself-lit-ownself fire of stupidity on public display.

    If the law beats this the crap out of this cynical cunning intrusion of private space, Sinkieland is going to win a little 5-yr old todler fight on its own soil & its OWN LAW MAGIC and lose the global war on cyberspace technology, law and commerce applications WAR.

    No foreigners or foreign businesses will do business with Sinkieland AFTER THAT.

    They know that even their corporate HQ sending text/information or commercial sensitive information CAN BE SPIED ON AND PROSECUTED successfully in Sinkieland against their legitimate commercial interest.

    NOW SINKIES, I TELL YOU THIS CLEVER ADVICE, SACK THOSE OBEDIENT DOGGIES from the House of the Most Expensive Decoration in the next GE – they CAN’T THINK, CAN’T WORK BUT CAN ONLY OBEDIENTLY FART GASES at the order of their master!!!

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  • lot of rubbish:

    //More and more Singaporeans are getting both angry and disappointed with the Gahment.//

    it is a matter of time. as the white idiots and gang have sowed too many ‘rubbish’ conditions for a lot of rubbish to happen. many daft sinkies may be waking up too late for them to possibly discover or realise that their lunches may have already been stolen.

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  • 西北赌郎:

    LSW should just complain to Facebook of LHL hacking into his account. Great to see LHL facebook kena suspended. lol

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  • N.Jungne:

    Kolo:
    Seriously this minister doesn’t even deserve a single cent for his salary

    Response: He can only appear on Jack Nei’s show, singing “Longkang longkang”

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  • Wat now my love:

    I think LHL is a lonely uncle these days. Even the nephews dont friend him.
    Tsk tsk tsk!

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  • Artful dodger:

    You may be based overseas but you are still a citizen so you should be mindful of what you say in public. If you’re going to keep complaining then maybe giving up your citizenship would be the best thing for you. When was the last time you said something positive about the government?

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  • Relationship With Others:

    Pinky cannot even establish cordial and good relationship with his nephews, brother and sister, how is he going to have good relationship with other small countries and superpowers ?

    No wonder he was not even invited to the very important and strategic OBOR seminar held in China.

    How are we going to face the future ? Really lost confidence.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Artful dodger

    YOUR LOGIC IS FLAWED as it is mischievous of deception. LSW’s private comment has NO RELEVANCE to his citizenship. Compared this to Gopalan Nair – ex-Sinkie, now Yankee, he spoke of some colourful flavor of Sinkie judiciary in his blog post on 5 July 2017 – Singapore’s 38 Oxley Rise and the Prime Minister’s Parliamentary Clown Show.

    And that is his privilege – no matter he is ex-Sinkie. No one can lawfully molest him for those expressions of his in cyberspace. So why is LSW any different except your illogical hallucinations – NOT FOUND IN FACT or in LAW OF YOUR IMAGINED ‘CONTEMPT THOUGHTS’?

    Artful dodger: You may be based overseas but you are still a citizen so you should be mindful of what you say in public. If you’re going to keep complaining then maybe giving up your citizenship would be the best thing for you. When was the last time you said something positive about the government?

    It is yours and PAPpys fart of fiction. If you speak to any law-informed mind – they will tell you this.

    Both Gopalan Nair writings and LSW Facebook are mere EXPRESSIONS OF POLITICAL COMMUNICATIONS – never mind which d*ckless wonder or wonders is offended by their full and frank views.

    It has never been in any CONSTITUTION anywhere in democracy to restrict the rights of peasants to engage in one another on political communication.

    Never will you come across the Constitution of Sinkieland which says YOU ALL PEASANTS & POLITICIANS IN ELECTION RALLY in 2011 GE is non-offending of any law to talk PUBLICLY of SEX…..SEX……AND MORE SEX (Ooops, forgive the Pink Dot recent rowdy attention-seeking and Miss. Kumar obsessions with gay sex in 2011 GE opening volley aiming at votes.

    It has never exists in common law in history or ever enacted in Parliament (statutory law this is called) that anyone be barred from talking about politics but allowed to talk about SEX….SEX……AND MORE SEX.

    If you asked lawyers of the origin of contempt law of summary punishment, it is.

    “Contempt of court” interference in the administration of justice. The case law citation is Attorney General vs Times Newspaper Limited, AC (1974) 273 322(Lord Cross of Chelsea).

    This is an Appeal Court decision of some finality determination. If it is sustained, it means that Neo Gim Huat who slapped Amos Yee was in contempt of court right at the doorstep of judicial determination.

    I don’t recall at all NGH was ever charged for contempt of court. Having failed that, the AGC is in coffin of justice to charge anyone else for lawful political communication.

    Not true still?

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  • Change we must...:

    As I have said before, our opposition groups are fragmented and appear to be only interested in being an opposition in Parliament. We do not want that. I firmly believe that our opposition members are patriotic and have the caliber and trust to lead Singapore under a truly democratic system. A system where no one is above the rule of law. A system where there is no nepotism. A system that allows us to express freely our views and thoughts without FEAR, intimidation and/or persecution.

    The past is the proof that every single person who has stood up against PAP has been marked as a trouble maker. Charges are laid and the person is sent to prison and financially ruined.

    We are not trouble makers. We want Singapore to succeed in the FREE world. We do not want to be CONTROL from the cradle to the grave. We do not want to be indoctrinated with the LEEs philosophy. We do not want aristocracy.

    Singapore is where it is today because of the hard work and sacrifices we have made and not by any one person in the government (past or present).

    We want transparency in our government. We can hope for a much better future AND we are the only ones who can make it happen.

    Time for our opposition groups to seriously re-think their strategy for the next general election. I have faith and hope that we can continue to work and live in Singapore without FEAR under a new government. So step up to this opportunity.

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  • So-Wrong And Gabra:

    Ah Leong, don’t be lazy. Do some real analysis instead of throwing up all these, sometimes disconnected, questions. Any fool can do that. Come on, do us a favour. Work harder lah.

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  • Dear Members of Parliament!:

    If you have ‘no balls’ to openly ask difficult questions in Parliament on 3 and 4 Jul 2017, don’t hide behind the keyboard and TALK BIG!

    Have some self respect please!

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  • kjlb:

    骗的传人:
    达哥䝨哥楝伯伯3人用2年时间做和事老也没能说服龙哥与弟妹和觧.还搞成世界笑剧.要是耀伯伯还在会骂这3人kayu jiak liao bee.

    龙哥的事是“家事”

    "清官难理家务事"

    这在在証明了达哥,贤哥,栋叔都是清官,都是国家栋梁。

    从来没听过耀伯伯生前用福建话骂人。看样子你一定是
    特朗阿普派来搞破坏的。

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  • 骗的传人:

    kjlb: 龙哥的事是“家事”

    "清官难理家务事"

    这在在証明了达哥,贤哥,栋叔都是清官,都是国家栋梁。

    从来没听过耀伯伯生前用福建话骂人。看样子你一定是
    特朗阿普派来搞破坏的。

    sik liew bee 耀伯伯是用客家话骂.达哥是廣东人.翻释给贤哥和棟叔听.你以为騙爷爷是幼园教师必須样样脱䃿子放屁.混蛋.

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  • kjlb:

    骗的传人: sik liew bee 耀伯伯是用客家话骂.达哥是廣东人.翻释给贤哥和棟叔听.你以为騙爷爷是幼园教师必須样样脱䃿子放屁.混蛋.

    耀伯伯是客家人没有错。

    但“sik liew bee”绝对不是客家话。

    你这个无耻的破坏者,八九不离十是特朗阿普之流給你津贴,对吗?

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