The real reason China snubbed PM over OBOR party?

The cybernuts KPKB that PM’s criticism of China’s actions in the South China Sea led to him being excluded from China’s big OBOR party.

Taz not the real reason. China thinks S’pore is the US of A’s running dog par excellence.

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MHA said that Prof Huang had co-operated with foreign intelligence organisations and agents to “influence the Singapore Government’s foreign policy and public opinion in Singapore”.
Read more at http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/mha-s-statement-on-huang-jing-lky-school-professor-who-tried-to-9093570

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China routinely criticises the US for conducing spy missions over the South China Sea and East China Sea. Guess who is helping the US conduct spy missions over the South China Sea?

S’pore.

The BBC reported in Dec 2015

The United States has deployed a P-8 Poseidon spy plane to Singapore for the first time.

It is the latest in a series of US military actions seen as a response to China’s increasingly assertive claims over territory in the South China Sea.

The US says it will also base a military reconnaissance plane at Singapore’s Paya Lebar air base.

US P-8s already operate from Japan and the Philippines, and surveillance flights have taken off from Malaysia.

The P-8 was deployed on Monday, and will remain in Singapore until 14 December.

In addition to the P-8 deployment, the US says it will operate a military plane, either a P-8 Poseidon or a P-3 Orion, from Singapore for the foreseeable future, rotating planes on a quarterly basis.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35036220

The flights from S’pore unlike that from M’sia and PeenoyLand are regular, not ad hoc.

The flights have one primary aim, monitoring the movements of Chinese nuclear subs based in Hainan.  They also are intended to show the finger to Chinese claims over the South China Sea.

Three littoral combat ships have also been deployed to Singapore since 2013. Now there are none, but two are going to be based here from next year http://thediplomat.com/2017/06/us-navy-plans-to-deploy-two-littoral-combat-ships-to-singapore-in-2018/

So of course China upset.

Btw, here’s serious money to be made from OBOR..

 

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34 Responses to “The real reason China snubbed PM over OBOR party?”

  • LIONS:

    Dont provoke the Giant Panda or it turns aggressive on us.

    Neutral is like being a doggy for some big boy against another big boy.
    Else,we get crushed like what just happenned.

    Lee Ah Long,dont put SG N SGS on the spot.
    Oredy,your FTs are screwing up our lives.

    Better you get expelled than sgs getting trampled.
    In extreme times,you n your clan can just simply flee the country, not us.

    So stop your stuoid act.

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  • OBOR is a debt instrument only:

    “European economists and experts have concluded that the China-promoted One Belt and Road (OBOR) initiative is nothing else but a debt instrument that can and will drive several nations, including Pakistan towards bankruptcy.”

    “An ambitious China is seeking to turn its currency into a global one, and does not seem to really care about the equally debilitating social or environmental impact its unrestricted money flows into other countries might have.”

    http://www.financialexpress.com/economy/china-promoted-obor-is-a-debt-instrument-only-claim-european-experts/714066/

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  • Mainstreet Citizen:

    1) PM’s criticism of China’s actions in the South China Sea led to him being excluded from China’s big OBOR party. (China firmly reiterated about going to war over its’ territories.)
    2) China thinks S’pore is the USA’s running dog par excellence.
    3) No Big No Small smart Alec Looney Dude.
    4) All of the above!

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  • So Shameful:

    What a perfect day to bring this up.
    Happy National Day.

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  • So:

    Which you rather be?

    USA running dog or China running dog?

    LIONS: Neutral is like being a doggy for some big boy against another big boy.
    Else,we get crushed like what just happenned.

    Mainstreet Citizen:

    China thinks S’pore is the USA’s running dog par excellence.

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  • Bystander:

    So naive, this PAP IB. Everybody knows Singapore allows American Spy planes to be based permanently within this little red dot. Nothing new to report, issit CI. These planes are used to survey SCS, who dun know.
    China has to show middle finger at PAP Govt, and the GLCs big boys have to suffer being left out in the cold by the Middle Kingdom.
    No hope for our GLCs to take even a small part.
    Serve our Govt right, screwing up our economic benefits, and when our Terrex toys were componded by HK China, America dun even make a squeak in our defence.
    Fair weather friends – Uncle Sam, food for thoughts for LHL, excluded by
    OBOR and ignored as a nobody at the G20 meeting in Europe.
    After LKY’s demise, PM Lee has become a nobody outside the little red dot.
    He’s a complete liability to us.

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  • Bad Boy:

    Don’t worry about China .

    South West China landslide killed 24.

    http://www.rappler.com/world/regions/asia-pacific/178102-landslide-southwest-china

    China Si Chuan EarthQuake 6.5 .

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40869028

    One day before our national day …Then on our national day , another strike …

    Earthquake of magnitude 6.6 hits northwest China’s Xinjiang

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-earthquake-xinjiang-idUSKBN1AP01B

    Heaven’s Mandate or Coincidence ?
    A warning from Heaven to China dont lau lan ? Heaven forbade China assertiveness. China better pray there’s no third or subsequent quakes.

    Will India take the opportunity to advance further in ?

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  • rukidding:

    So, you mean Singapore is “finished” ?

    Actually,…all the “dots” are already there….its only “when” these “lines” will be “connected” !

    To the True Blues ,…we can see that our days are “Numbered” if we continue “believing and trusting” this Naked Emperor ….thats why the Naked Emperor has to “shore up his support” from “New Sillyzeans” ( majority from under developed nation ) who are “coined as Foreign talents” ?

    Eve this year’s NDP is “rubbish” and “standard” have dropped.

    Looks like we now are living on “make believe Dreams and wayangs” indeed !

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  • Change We Must:

    India is countering the OBOR network. They are also building highway link to Myanmar, Thailand, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and maybe to Laos and Cambodia. So India is going to balance China influence in Asia as well. India is also also trying to buy Sri Lanka over so that the Indian Ocean is not threat to them. So all the power play in this region now. Both are trying to influence all the smaller countries in the region. Let them fight and in the end US will be the winner and come in to flatten the loser.

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  • SG - Are u Dumb:

    More and more ASEAN countries will side china . That’s good for SG – if Malaysia or Indonesia attempts to attack SG, she got to get the nod from China who would most likely object it.

    So SG, why would you want to continue to be US running dog? You are implicitly protected by China already!!!

    Why couldn’t SG invite China to jointly develop the new Jurong port instead now that China is jointly developing malacca port with Malaysia. 60% of goods which are China will be moved to malacca?

    Wake up SG, China is more important than US!

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  • UG:

    Bystander:
    So naive, this PAP IB. Everybody knows Singapore allows American Spy planes to be based permanently within this little red dot. Nothing new to report, issit CI. These planes are used to survey SCS, who dun know.
    China has to show middle finger at PAP Govt, and the GLCs big boys have to suffer being left out in the cold by the Middle Kingdom.
    No hope for our GLCs to take even a small part.
    Serve our Govt right, screwing up our economic benefits, and when our Terrex toys were componded by HK China, America dun even make a squeak in our defence.
    Fair weather friends – Uncle Sam, food for thoughts for LHL, excluded by
    OBOR and ignored as a nobody at the G20 meeting in Europe.
    After LKY’s demise, PM Lee has become a nobody outside the little red dot.
    He’s a complete liability to us.

    Huh? America never make a squeak at all? Really? Maybe no one want to trust us now? How did LKY did it when we got nothing at all? And those old pap. So last time education better than now? Is it old school education better? That why we need FT? Our education consider more new school than other country right? No good?
    http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/the-o-level-track-of-shame

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  • opposition dude:

    I think goondu Loong’s big mouth was the starter of it all. All these snubs by China about OBOR and the wayang APC confiscation came after the founder left this world.

    It’s true that China respected the dead man and doesn’t care 2 hoots about his son. Notice that China has never done anything to us when the dead founder was still alive?

    If anything his son is way too naive to be PM. He has learnt a good lesson from the cheong kong’ing of his military vehicles and not being invited to an OBOR conference. Time will tell if he offends Panda Land once again.

    So Cynical, as usual you show your ignorance. While we may be running dogs to the USA the question you should be asking yourself is why didn’t they exclude us from anything when Lee Kayu was still around?

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  • PAP has the mandate:

    The PAP government has been playing double agent for US and China for a long time and was caught red handed. Remember, LKY working for both British and Japanese before and after WWII….LOL..remember PAP million dollars clowns bad mouthed their neighbours and were caught red handed as well…..LOL

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  • Missile:

    So now you know why China sell missiles to Malaysia and these missiles will be placed strategically facing the running dog of US of A.

    Good luck SAF! Another day another strategy?

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  • Will Ordinary people like you:

    rather be a running dog to someone with average salary of U$3,263 or U$656 ?

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/226956/average-world-wages-in-purchasing-power-parity-dollars/

    If Malaysia and Indonesia needed permission from China just to attack Singapore, are they still the same Malaysia and Indonesia?

    So when “Malaysia” and “Indonesia” do attack Singapore, who is actually attacking us?, Malaysia? Indonesia? or China?

    Still sleeping?

    SG - Are u Dumb:
    More and more ASEAN countries will side china . That’s good for SG – if Malaysia or Indonesia attempts to attack SG, she got to get the nod from China who would most likely object it.

    So SG, why would you want to continue to be US running dog? You are implicitly protected by China already!!!

    Why couldn’t SG invite China to jointly develop the new Jurong port instead now that China is jointly developing malacca port with Malaysia. 60% of goods which are China will be moved to malacca?

    Wake up SG, China is more important than US!

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  • PATRIOT of TEMESAK:

    Singapore was BEHOLDEN to the US of A when LKY visit and sold Singapore’s workers and INDEPENDENCE in exchange for US investments and Depopulation of the 3rdWorld. a Brainchild of Dr.Kissinger whereby LKY the Evil that he is DESTROYED 500,000 unborn child through LEEgal Abortion in 1974 and penalizing less educated Parents with more than TWO child…

    A Price MUST be PAID and Karma is one of the WAYs!!!

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  • Attack ?:

    Attack ?

    Like they continuous issue warnings again and again to India at least 67 times and still counting and still no action today . But instead Earthquake attack them.

    中方67次就印军非法越境表态!从高度克制到空前严厉,中方已仁至义尽!
    http://news.sina.com.cn/o/2017-08-09/doc-ifyiswpt6176544.shtml

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  • rukidding:

    As usual,…Pap style.

    They ( Pappy ) can make “No mistake” ???

    Why put blame on Professor and said he “influenced” decision ???

    Why cannot accept fact that Pappy , themselves have been “sleeping” and “busy looking at their Bank statement” and even “property like 38 oxtail Rd ” ?

    With the frequent talk on KRA Canal,…”realising” the OBOR and building Deep Sea port in both Kuantan and Malacca( thus cutting SG out ) was an OBVIOUS choice .

    Whats the point of blaming a Professor when you are not being invited to OBOR ?.. you know you have been “cornered strategically” ?…our Port business are “numbered”….and ( Pappy have been sleeping )

    Only a “No BRAINER” like Pappy who is more “pre-occupied” with “creating illusional Property asset enhancement as well as New Sillyzens”…couldn’t see the “threats” coming .

    So,…NOW HOW ?….blame the professor ????

    So typical of this bunch of useless Pappy !

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  • Rabble-rouser:

    QUOTE: [From ST article Feb 4, 2016] But now in hindsight, quite a few realised that they were not suited for the IP. They needed a more structured programme and needed a major examination, like the O levels, to hunker down and study.
    One of them described it as being “academically adrift”.
    “I liked the IP. I got to do a lot of interesting things, but I also drifted – going from one interesting project to another. It hit me only when I failed my JC1 exams.”

    UG: How did LKY did it when we got nothing at all? And those old pap. So last time education better than now? Is it old school education better? That why we need FT? Our education consider more new school than other country right? No good?
    http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/the-o-level-track-of-shame

    @ UG
    Article was over 1-&-a-half years old but highly illuminating. It shows how much tinkering with S’pore educational system, the PAP can’t eradicate the rote-learning mindset together with the examination-bias for an all-or-nothing success focus. That’s why those who have undergone the S’pore Educational System end up:
    * having a very narrow perspective on the academic subject matter;
    * can’t sustain their learning over a longer period but rather like a Sprint athlete – timed their [peak] performance to coincide with a major examination [like a 100m dash] simply just to get over the line [their academic interest dies off after achieving one-off exam success];
    * inculcating a gambling/gaming streak from an early age. If nothing, the PAP educational system teaches kids to go for an all-or-nothing exam focus. It doesn’t teach them to have a life-long interest in learning critical bits of knowledge [knowledge doesn't stick] nor a discerning & skeptical mind [neither curiosity nor a questioning mind]. And that is why the products of the S’pore Educational System is failing at the job market; &
    * marrying rote-learning core of students with a six-year Integrated Programme (IP) which was a “through-train” programme as it allows students to bypass the O levels and aim for the A levels or International Baccalaureate. But the fast-track system coupled with a society that is still focused with achieving “High Marks” put added pressure onto kids.
    FAST TRACK – FOR WHAT?
    It’s another of PAP’s impatience & expediency for results which screws up the Educational Process. What it needs [for Education] is a rethink & reboot ie. a release of the stresses & pressures of a rote-learning system & to cast off the speculative all-or-nothing exam bias. The present day educational system in S’pore is simply going towards a cliff in a…

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  • 吃里扒外。背叛:

    Maybe we just say “Aiyo, Boh Bian lah!”

    Simi LJ also Boh Bian wan !

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  • Bad Boy:

    @ So now you know why China sell missiles to Malaysia and these missiles will be placed strategically facing the running dog of US of A.

    Really ?
    Show some pics or some links of news reporting.

    Dont anyhow surmise.

    I only aware of current facts.

    Curently 1 SGD = 3.12 RM

    JB princess married to Ang Mo ( Holland Europe ) .

    Xi Jin Ping niece also married to Ang Mo ( English ) .

    You pro china fans all never go gatecrash the princess wedding to ask your favorite question ” Ang Mo Tua Kee is it ? “

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  • UG:

    PATRIOT of TEMESAK:
    Singapore was BEHOLDEN to the US of A when LKY visit and sold Singapore’s workers and INDEPENDENCE in exchange for US investments and Depopulation of the 3rdWorld. a Brainchild of Dr.Kissinger whereby LKY the Evil that he is DESTROYED 500,000 unborn child through LEEgal Abortion in 1974 and penalizing less educated Parents with more than TWO child…

    A Price MUST be PAID and Karma is one of the WAYs!!!

    So Donald Trump want run president cos want create jobs for his own people right? The British Ang Moh and America Ang Moh dunno the money go where right? So USA invest in Singapore, than Singapore lose to Suzhou and UBS? Than where is LSW or other quitter? Huh? Anyone want to investigate? Is it the world world dunno where the money go to? $600,000 is peanuts?

    http://www.transitioning.org/2017/08/04/family-of-8-living-on-500month-with-no-water-5-pay-u-and-limited-transport-fare/
    Even in my own country, all money go where? Damn weird. Where is the Japanese or British?

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  • Yes however:

    @ Why couldn’t SG invite China to jointly develop the new Jurong port instead now that China is jointly developing malacca port with Malaysia. 60% of goods which are China will be moved to malacca?

    Yes however as a example there’s a worker protest at Indonesia sea port terminal . Its under Lee Ka Shing , if we consider him as China instead of HK . Then picture is not so beautiful i guess.

    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/hundreds-go-on-strike-at-indonesia-s-largest-cargo-terminal-9093520
    Hundreds go on strike at Indonesia’s largest cargo terminal

    History will repeat itself maybe in Malaysia as well.

    Beside we do not want to risk having a repeat Tian jin port explosion case here in Sg soil.

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  • never voted pap:

    Bystander:

    So naive, this PAP IB.

    Everybody knows Singapore allows American Spy planes to be based permanently within this little red dot. Nothing new to report, issit CI. These planes are used to survey SCS, who dun know.

    China has to show middle finger at PAP Govt, and the GLCs big boys have to suffer being left out in the cold by the Middle Kingdom. No hope for our GLCs to take even a small part.

    Serve our Govt right, screwing up our economic benefits, and when our Terrex toys were componded by HK China, America dun even make a squeak in our defence.

    …, food for thoughts for LHL, excluded by OBOR and ignored as a nobody at the G20 meeting in Europe.

    After LKY’s demise, PM Lee has become a nobody outside the little red dot.
    He’s a complete liability to us.

    very well said, bro. since lky went to meet his maker, clown prince has not only become a nobody outside of pap controlled Singapore, he has also become a very big liability to its citizens as seen in the treatment clown prince is getting in China and Europe. even lky’s grandson, Mr LSW, besides lky’s own son Mr LHY and lky’s own daughter Dr LWL, has nothing good to say of clown prince. a very big liability indeed, including to lee dynasty.

    very good. clap. clap. heaven truly has eyes. no human can escape.

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  • Leaks Gan Yew:

    Has any of the leaks irritated the China dragon ?
    Is it just caused by the faux pas de longan?

    Luckily bong bongs are not intellectually sophisticated enough discern.

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  • No Goodies For Singapore:

    China is pouring billions or even trillions in infra-structure development in Malaysia.
    Among these are the East-Coast High Speed Rail System which links the eastern part of Malaysia to KL and Port Klang.
    The US is also setting up missile launching systems in Johore.
    All in all, the US is telling Sinkingpore “Don’t Kwai Lan with us”.

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  • No Goodies For Singapore:

    No Goodies For Singapore:
    China is pouring billions or even trillions in infra-structure development in Malaysia.
    Among these are the East-Coast High Speed Rail System which links the eastern part of Malaysia to KL and Port Klang.
    The US is also setting up missile launching systems in Johore.
    All in all, the US is telling Sinkingpore “Don’t Kwai Lan with us”.

    Correction
    “China is also setting up missile launching systems in Johore.
    All in all, China is telling Singkingpore “Don’t Kwai Lan with us”.

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  • Even Dutert has more cow sense:

    Even that loose canon Rodrigo Duterte is a lot smarter than our Ah Loong.
    Although his country has some territorial conflicts with China, he is on good terms with Xi Jin Ping and has totally ignored the US.
    He knows his country’s future lies in being on good terms with China.
    Everybody knows that Trump is a coward who dares not face North Korea openly and is trying to hide behind China’s skirts.

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  • President Rodrigo Duterte:

    called himself a “humble friend” of the United States on Monday, taking a break from his notorious hostility towards Washington to grant a warm reception to visiting U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tillerson-asia-philippines-idUSKBN1AN1X7

    “behind China’s skirts”??? try not to drop anything !!!

    Even Dutert has more cow sense:
    Even that loose canon Rodrigo Duterte is a lot smarter than our Ah Loong.

    Although his country has some territorial conflicts with China, he is on good terms with Xi Jin Ping and has totally ignored the US.
    He knows his country’s future lies in being on good terms with China.

    Everybody knows that Trump is a coward who dares not face North Korea openly and is trying to hide behind China’s skirts.

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  • Just make 35 good MRT trains:

    with no cracks, we will be grateful to you.

    SG too small for billion or traillions of infra-strcture development.

    https://www.hongkongfp.com/2016/07/05/mainland-manufacturer-mtr-secretly-recalls-35-trains-singapore-due-cracks/

    No Goodies For Singapore:
    China is pouring billions or even trillions in infra-structure development in Malaysia.

    Among these are the East-Coast High Speed Rail System which links the eastern part of Malaysia to KL and Port Klang.

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  • A Bully against A Bigger Bully:

    Spore Big Bully didn’t know how to die when they tried to use Rule of Law accusing the PRC Bully. Since the toy seizure incident, just look at them now they never even dared to mention the Law anymore.

    Our own laws already misuse yet want to talk big about Rule of Law. If want to talk to other people about Rule of Law, make sure your backyard is clean first. So many abuse happening here, still want to talk big about Law !!! Real hypocrites.

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  • 老李:

    Luckily China cannot stop sg from prosperity.
    Sg is too strong.

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  • Ya Lo:

    What is the point of mentioning rule of law, when they can simply ignore it?

    http://www.businessinsider.com/beijing-vows-to-ignore-south-china-sea-ruling-2016-7

    A Bully against A Bigger Bully:
    Spore Big Bully didn’t know how to die when they tried to use Rule of Law accusing the PRC Bully. Since the toy seizure incident, just look at them now they never even dared to mention the Law anymore.

    Our own laws already misuse yet want to talk big about Rule of Law. If want to talk to other people about Rule of Law, make sure your backyard is clean first. So many abuse happening here, still want to talk big about Law !!! Real hypocrites.

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  • GIC conned of TRILLIONS:

    With a stupid PM like Ah Loong, China having a field day.
    The Terrex incident is “Sap Sap Sui”.
    China is having a field day sucking money from GIC. China has conned GIC into throwing Trillions of our savings into companies which has reached the end of the road.

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