Definition Of Malay

I will just like to add my five cents worth of contribution on the ongoing debate of what is really a Malay.

The hot topic concerns Halimah Yacob. Her father is Indian-Muslim while her mother is Malay. So is she really Malay?

Let us now look across the causeway for some answers.

Malaysia’s fourth Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad is also mixed blood. He is not totally pure Malay. Mahathir’s father, Mohamad bin Iskandar Kutty was from Penang and he is a Malay with Indian ancestors from the South Indian state of Kerala. Since Mahathir’s mother is a Malay, that means that Dr. Mahathir Mohamad is really ¼ Indian and ¾ Malay. However this did not prevent him from becoming the leader of UMNO and ultimately Malaysia’s fourth Prime Minister.

Dr. Mahathir’s successor Abdullah Ahmad Badawi is also not totally pure Malay. His maternal grandfather Han Su-chiang is a Utsul Muslim Chinese from Hainan island. So that means that Abdullah Ahmad Badawi is ¼ Chinese and ¾ Malay. In spite of this background, he was elected as the leader of UMNO and subsequently he became the fifth Prime Minister of Malaysia.

So what I am trying to say is this. I do not think we should be too picky on what constitutes a Malay. To me what is important is that the Elected President must be able to perform the duties objectively. If the Malay community has already accepted Halimah Yacob as a Malay, then just let her run for President.

 

JY Tan

 

 

 

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44 Responses to “Definition Of Malay”

  • 69:

    Who bring up in the first place??chop the place
    Hahaha;btw,cPeeF where;in the toilet,is it

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  • TUCK WAN:

    What objective you are talking about ?

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  • Talk Cock Sing Song:

    “So what I am trying to say is this. I do not think we should be too picky on what constitutes a Malay. To me what is important is that the Elected President must be able to perform the duties objectively.”
    That’s why lor, why all this time-wasting and pretentious political agenda of having a reserved election for Malay lor! Anyone from any race who can perform the duties of Elected President objectively should not be fixed from contesting in a meritocracy democracy society lar and that’s what the voters at large would want lor.

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  • Knock your head:

    Are we in Malaysia or in Singapore?

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  • Ah Fah:

    Hey, you miss the point. Whose backside itchy went to change the rules? When rules are changed, people of course scrutinise them. Since the gahmen can never be beaten, then the target is something else.

    If you can’t or refuse to see things properly, you never convince others.

    You have 70% with you, why trying? Stop being a hypocrite.

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  • No Rojak, please:

    @ JY Tan “I do not think we should be too picky on what constitutes a Malay.”

    Wrong! We should be. The crux of this issue is that the Government wants a Malay to be President – not a 1/2 or 3/4 Malay. No rojak, please.

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  • Then:

    why bother with a reserved EP?

    Better to just stop talking, the more you spin, the worst it gets.

    The debate should be “What really is an ELECTED PRESIDENT”?

    ongoing debate of what is really a Malay.

    I do not think we should be too picky on what constitutes a Malay. To me what is important is that the Elected President must be able to perform the duties objectively.

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  • 民间有高手:

    This competition is about purer, mixture vs compounds.

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  • N.Jungne:

    Solly I disagree with you, in Malaysia they are BHUMIPUTRAS as long as they are Muslims and practise the Malay-Culture. In Sinkapoola, it is different, we have Malay, Chinese, Indian and Eurasions, no Bhumi policy.

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  • NotMyProblem:

    We, Singaporeans, also don’t have problem with Malay or not. Any President is good enough as long as he/she performs the duty.

    So what if a president is a Chinese like Tony Tan, good for nothing?

    MPs, in the GRCs, from the minority races are supposed to represent the minority races. Have you heard anything from these MPs speaking out for the respective race? NOTHING!!

    This Reserved President Election for Malay was created by the PAP. It is the PAP which created this confusion trying to divide the Malay. Now a Malay is only a member of the Malay Community, like a member of a country club or town country.

    Racism in Singapore is only good for PAP, to divide and rule. As far as Singaporean is concern we are SINGAPOREANS REGARDLESS OF RACE, LANGUAGE OR RELIGION ….. LOVE SINGAPORE BUT HATE PAP!!

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  • Can Meh:

    I don’t think the Speaker of the House is equivalent to a CEO who is running a $500 million corporation.

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  • Win some lose some:

    Mdm H is a pawn in
    PAPs selfish power games.
    She just cant say no to her boss, can she..
    Yes the pay is good but you have to lose some too..yourself.
    Her life wont be hers anymore for the next 4yrs or so.

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  • James Wee:

    Given the importance of the role of the Elected President to safeguard national reserves and uphold integrity of public sector employees, we logically should allow the people to vote in the best person who can effectively do the job regardless of race. Otherwise, revert to the appointed presidency and appoint whoever parliament decides. Right?

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  • Istana securiry guard:

    Just what are the duties of an elected president and how previous office-holders have carried out their duties, if any? It the EP a glorified Istana security guard?

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  • Can Meh:

    Can a gay enter a Female toilet? His IC showed ‘Male’ but he always dressed like a female and all his friends considered him a female.

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  • PATRIOT of TEMESAK:

    You are MISSING the POINT….Reserved Presidency is Race Motivated and POLITICAL in Nature meant for the silly sheep lah!!!

    If one is STOOPIID enough to accept it so be it leh!!! No definition or explanation needed for those who do NOT think like a sheep

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  • 花非花:

    中文有句话说:“见树不见林”,意思和文字一样的浅白,那就是只看见了眼前的一棵树,却看不到后头一片黑压压的森林。

    新加坡强调种族和谐,无论民选或之前的官委,总统来自哪个族群从来就不是问题。宪法虽然赋予四大族群同等的权利,但是在“任人唯贤”的国家政策上,很显然的,每一个事务官和政务官都不应该是各族群排排坐吃果果的游戏。

    哈莉玛年届花甲,已经做了一甲子的新加坡人,她是属于哪个族群,从来就没有困难。但是,就在她投身竞选总统的这个时候,属于哪个族群竟然成为她的尴尬–质疑她的族群的人、为她辩护的人,还有她自己,都为带着印度裔和巫裔血统的她是否是马来人挑起敏感的族群争议。

    这一个哈莉玛是否是马来人的争议就像矗立在全体新加坡人眼前的一课树,但是可怖的是,新加坡人却没有发现到,就因为这棵树的背后的那一片黑压压的森林,总统应该由各族群轮流担当所打开的潘朵拉的盒子–别忘了武装部队没有将官曾经是隔岸放火挑拨离间新加坡人族群和谐的奸计。

    然而,追根究底,一来自有民选总统制度以后,马来族群从来有没有出来竞选;二来作为少数族群的印度裔纳丹毫无悬疑的成功竞选胜利了两届总统。因此,在执政党对于推出自己的总统候选人感觉毫无胜算之后而推出保留总统给某个族群的游戏,不免就显得斧凿痕迹过于粗糙,是对于使占据优势的前总统候选人陈清木先生不当选的奥步。

    不然的话,你怎么来解释现任总统陈庆炎竟然没有趁着现任总统的选举优势来寻求连任呢?因此,很显然的,司马昭之心路人皆知,少数民族只不过是邪恶政治的代罪羔羊–嘿嘿,不对,是公然卖淫的牌坊里头供奉的神主牌!

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  • rukidding:

    Soon, the Indian Community would also have to “accept” an Indian Muslim as the next Minority Race Elected President( Reserved for Indians ) !!

    And then,…..maybe we will see another “Little India Riot”, before EVERYBODY “realizes” that it was all because of “somebody” who “twisted” the whole logic to “suit his personal and Party agenda”

    Gheez….my congrates to all those Pimps and prostitutes ( P.a.p.) who are desperately trying to “screw this nation” for “personal gains”.

    Don’t forget ….we now have ALOT of “India Minted” New Sillyzeans !!

    When will the people start to realized that P.a.p of today is not the same as P.a.p. of Yesteryears ????

    “They” will “do anything” ( 69, CIM, etc…to get what they want )

    “Greed” has no boundaries indeed !

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  • Chris Bong:

    Two things here, both examples given is that Mahathir and Badawi has quarter percent other race but Halimah has 50% indian. Secondly, any idiot can be a president in Singapore provided if you listen to the Prime Minister. Tell me what has Tony Tan and his predessesors did? Absolutely nothing. Halimah will be the same just another seat warmer collecting millions. What has she done in the years as MP and as house speaker other than to shut oppositions up.

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  • rukidding:

    Just wondering ….how come such a “sensitive issue” as “race and religion” and “Minority” was never “GIVEN A CHANCE” to be “discussed” with the Public in general ????

    Is the Indian and Silk community “Happy” with this decision ?

    Why is only Mendaki “involved” in this ???

    Will the “Minoriy Race President” just be “reserved” ONLY FOR MALAYs?

    Sooner or Later,…this question will definitely “Popped up” ???

    SOOOOOoo….it is really “fishy and reckless” to INSIST that we start implementing this coming PE to be “reserved” for Malay.

    The best solution is to “postponed” tothe next Presidential election…..there is certainly NO HURRY .

    I am sure the Malay Community and Mendaki can understand and wait for the next PE ….which is in the interest of all races ( Indians, Silks, Eurasians, ….even Ang Mos who are our New Sillyzeans )

    Afterall,….these Ang Mos are also considered a “Minority” here…isn’t it ?

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  • ErectLeow:

    I thought this is a worth reading post

    end of the day is a piece mouth from lackey

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  • Observer1234:

    Did Malaysia state that their PM must be Malay?

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  • rukidding:

    @JY Tan …must be an “idiot” or maybe a New Sillyzeans .

    Malaysia is a Muslim/ Islamic State lah !

    Singapore is NOT a Muslim state…so,… please
    don’t mix your LOGIC and “sprout” nonsense here !

    A Chinese “Convert” in Malaysia is recognise as a Muslim in Malaysia.

    It has nothing to do with Malays “accepting” Indians as Malays !

    If going by your logic….then Chinese “Converts” are also being “accepted” as Malays ????…no rite ?..you are “sprouting” nonsense !!!

    In Malaysia …its the RELIGION ( ie Muslim faith ) that “binds” the Nation ( mostly Muslims ) together..NOT MALAY , BUT ISLAM !!!

    That is why, even a Chinese “convert” can “enjoy same benefits as BUMI status ” !!!!

    So,….JY Tan…..you are “twisting and telling lies” !!!!

    STOP “FOOLING” the people to “benefit your personal agendas” !!!

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  • Multilingus:

    Can we then extrapolate to accept as ok something that’s unethical or immoral so long as a community accepts it ?

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  • OTHER Race is redundant:

    If mixed race is categorised as pure race, there is no longer any need for OTHER Race as long as the champor consists of either Malay, Chinese or Indian race.

    Champor means mixed.

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  • Singapore Belongs To Me Only:

    Only Pinky can decide who is malay.
    He can also decide the fate of any building, preserve or destroy,
    as well as who is president.

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  • LIONS:

    The QUESTION shud be WHO are the clown$ who insist this must be a MALAY EP?

    You know,i know WHO these idiot$ are!

    Then,we shud be asking about WHO ARE MALAYS N NOT WHO HAS ” malayness” ?
    As much as HY , we can also say that DR TCB has ” malayness” if we look at things this broadly???

    HY too can be said to have “chinese-ness”,ya?

    That is WHY the idiot$ who insist on MALAY ONLY CANDIDATES are the ones who cause TROUBLE,ya?

    The QUESTION we shud be asking is whether the CANDIDATES ARE SINGAPOREANS ,regardless of race,for some NON-Singaporeans also like to claim they have “SINGAPOREAN-ness” just so to get some BENEFITS???

    Dafts are Idiots and idiots are just stoopid!!!

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  • Hai gong:

    This is what Singaporean are good for.
    Always trying to blur the line (now classified as fake news)
    Cannot win them confuse them

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  • William C:

    Talking cock. Then why must reserve for a Malay is we are talking about meritocracy. Same logic as the writer said. Best man wins. So the election should be opened to every Singaporean

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  • nathan:

    ‘To me what is important is that the Elected President must be able to perform the duties objectively’

    JY Tan, You really believes the PAP Chosen One will be an independent one and will be able to perform the duties objectively?

    Give me a break. Don’t underestimate the intelligence of voters, even her supporters know she is an elected President in name only. Her main roles will be ceremonial duties in the Istana.

    it’s not just her Malayness, which the Commission Constitution insisted must be reserved for Malays only which the people are not happy about.

    This reserved PE is simply mired in too much unresolved controversies to be put before the people for national election.

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  • Bystander:

    Harimau is the direct descendant of an Indian Muslim, not third or fourth generation.
    It was PM Lee who tweaked the Constitution to reserve for a Malay President. Now who brought up racial politics issue, it’s the PM, not us.

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  • harold:

    The patrilineal definition (ie “you are Race X if your father (only) is Race X.) of one’s race in SG is a strictly sinocentric one. It shouldn’t be surprising that it would be a Chinese writer writing in the context of a race-obsessed, race-fixated opposition who would be pushing this point with the racist objective of imposing it on non-Chinese.

    Don’t universalize this definition it when it is not a universally accepted system and method.

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  • Bapak:

    It is stupid for anyone to argue who is Malay enough to run this reserved PE seat. Everyone should focus on why and what is the motive for this Constitutional change.

    The whole f**king exercise is to disqualified and prevent TCB as a candidate.

    Singaporeans are again and again proven to be VERY STUPID to be distracted from the real issue and motive. PAP can never stand a chance to run another country except Singapore because this country is made up 70% stupid citizens.

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  • Sue:

    I understand that her IC shows her race as Indian.
    She should not qualify as a malay president. If she is elected she will be a fake malay president!

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  • Texture of Sperm:

    Singapore Belongs To Me Only:
    Only Pinky can decide who is malay.
    He can also decide the fate of any building, preserve or destroy,
    as well as who is president.

    Can a Non – Malay dictate who is or is not a Malay?

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  • kf:

    Jy, you are absolutely right that it’s the person who can perform the duties that matter. Try telling that to the government instead of going along the narrow route of looking at Malays. The government tries to cast the net wide and bring in hordes of foreigners. When it comes to EP, the entire story is different – narrow down to race. You don’t have to be educated to know that something is wrong.

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  • I copyright this TODAY:

    Given that Race is not based on genes or race, we should abolish the use of Race in our pink IC .

    GRC can also be abolished.

    Ownself shoot ownself.

    System flawed from the fundamental ground up.

    Collapse is inevitable.

    I dun mean like the highway collapse.

    Yesterday hor I masturbated once more.

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  • The People gave Mandate:

    Singapore Belongs To Me Only:
    Only Pinky can decide who is malay.
    He can also decide the fate of any building, preserve or destroy,
    as well as who is president.

    But your People gave them the Mandate that enabled them to do everything you disagree with them.

    First it’s it People,
    Then it’s them.

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  • PAP logic:

    JY Tan:

    So what I am trying to say is this. I do not think we should be too picky on what constitutes a Malay. To me what is important is that the Elected President must be able to perform the duties objectively.

    So why stipulate that you need to be a Malay to stand for the next PE, if “what is important is that the Elected President must be able to perform the duties objectively”?

    Of course, the PAP over the last 30 years has never been about serving the people objectively, but their own self-interests.

    And change the rules arbitrarily at their whims using illogic logic.

    Or infantile arguments.

    And including unconstitutional changes.

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  • Ah Fah:

    N.Jungne:
    Solly I disagree with you, in Malaysia they are BHUMIPUTRAS as long as they are Muslims and practise the Malay-Culture. In Sinkapoola, it is different, we have Malay, Chinese, Indian and Eurasions, no Bhumi policy.

    The turn for a Malay President is the Musical chairs. It is also our version of Bhumiputra policy.

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  • could simply have it changed:

    Sue:
    I understand that her IC shows her race as Indian.
    She should not qualify as a malay president. If she is elected she will be a fake malay president!

    ‘IC shows her race as Indian’. That’s right. If it showed she is Malay, the PAP would have publicized it, showing it off in the msm.

    Still, that is no problem for the PAP. If push come to shove, the PAP Civil Servants could simply have it changed to show ‘Malay’ on her IC. This is PAP rule of law in SG. Can suka suka change laws to suit them.

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  • rukidding:

    Heeeee…..looks like “Mendakee” is beginning to become a “puppet” and part of another “Special or Select Committee” frequently and a favorite use by our Naked Emperor !

    Effectively “marking the birth” of “dis- intergration” and “reversing” 50 yrs of Hard “Intergration” Work

    All because of One Man and his Pimp and prostitute (P.a.p.)Party’s selfish gain

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  • fairies:

    A good government should not abuse the power when the citizen has placed their trust and voted them into power. Please call a spade a spade.Its not right to call a rake a spade just because both has a handle.

    My understanding is for a Malay, if female name as Harimau it is stated as “Harimau Binte Ahmad” etc or a male is “Harimau Bin Ahmad”.

    For an Indian is “Harimau Daughter of Nair ” or son is “Harimau Son of Nair “. Correct me if it is a wrong interpretation..

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  • Change We Must:

    To me what is important is that the Elected President must be able to perform the duties objectively”" If this is the case why reserve this EP election for one particular race, is the PAP government dividing our nation??
    “If the Malay community has already accepted Halimah Yacob as a Malay” Go find out how many of the ground Malays agree with that? The approval was done by MIUS. they are the dogs of the PAP.

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