Singapore is doomed under PM Lee Hsien Loong

Tan Kin Lian

Singapore is doomed under PM Lee Hsien Loong, says former Presidential candidate Tan Kin Lian.

Mr Tan was weighing in on the recent revelation that 3 men and 2 women had allegedly scammed SkillsFuture Singapore (SSG), of a whopping $40 million through fraudulent claims.

Calling the fleecing of such a large sum of money “astonishing,” Mr Tan said that this would not have happened during Lee Kuan Yew’s time, adding that the case “shows clearly the deplorable state of our civil service and the political leadership.”

In the old days, during the time of LKY, our civil servants would have been capable of preventing the kind of fraud that occurred with the Skills Future scheme.

Frankly, it is not difficult to prevent the fraud. It only requires practical common sense to know how crooks could cheat the system.

The fact that the fraud had occurred and to the scale of $40 million is astonishing. It shows clearly the deplorable state of our civil service and the political leadership.

It also shows the failing of our education system which produce people that are smart in scoring in examinations but totally lack common sense.

It is quite frightening to know that this is the calibre of people that are leading Singapore now.

It also shows the serious shortcoming of an elitist system where the people in charge think that they are capable of finding the best solution on their own. They refuse to engage people outside of their closed elite circle.

Singapore is doomed under Lee HL.

The Alleged Scam

In a statement released on Tuesday (19 Dec) by SSG, 3 men and 2 women, believed to be members of a criminal syndicate, had submitted forged documents to fraudulently obtain subsidies, utilising 9 business entities, comprising employer companies and training providers.

SSG said the group has since been charged in court and the police has seized substantial cash and frozen a number of bank accounts involved in the case.

 

 

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69 Responses to “Singapore is doomed under PM Lee Hsien Loong”

  • Evil Tyrant and PAP Terror:

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    The 70% of the Singaporeans … believe in doom cult leaders !!!

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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  • Change We Must:

    It is very worrying. The whole nation is scratching their heads. What’s happening with our talented civil service? They are paid so much yet very disappointing.
    I am sure they are many many scamming the government funds, but they are not caught yet. By the time they catch them, it already too late, all the scammed money disappear and shipped out of Singapore.
    Problem is , the government has too much of our money and the civil service just create some useless initiatives to get funding and they have to spend it somehow or else they will make themselves a fool. Understand there are quite a lot of scamming in the research funds as well.

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  • Mainstreet Citizen:

    Billions of $$$ from casinos taxes and fees but money no enough!
    Billions of $$$ from Singapore Pools but money no enough!
    Billions of $$$ from E.R.P. but money no enough!
    Billions of $$$ from G.S.T but money no enough!
    Billions of $$$ from C.O.E but money no enough!
    Billions of $$$ from record Temasek portfolio but money no enough!
    Billions of $$$ from land sales but money no enough!
    Billions of $$$ from work permits and licensing fees but money no enough
    Paid ownself big big $$$, money is enough!
    Paid P.A. billion $$$, money is enough!
    People you decide, Enough is Enough!

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  • HarderTruths:

    Kin Lian

    You are a little late to the party. That’s already well known and old news. You need to network more.

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  • 陈大婶:

    公务员也中毒了。

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  • nathan:

    Remember the pen is mightier than the sword robbery in holland-village-stanchart-bank in 2017. Just hand over a note to the bank-teller to demand $30,000. And the robber got it. It was that easy. Within a short-period, on the same day, he was able to evade the police and the ICA and fled to Thailand. It was that easy. He is now serving 14 months in Thai prison not for the robbery in Singapore but for other crimes he admitted to committing.

    The rot starts at the top and spread to the bottom. This is what’s is happening in Singapore under PM Lee Hsien Loong.

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  • LIONS:

    Can a person who breaks up his own family be able to unite his country?

    I seriously think not.

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  • Lye Khuen Way:

    A very good observation, “LIONS”. Food for thoughts. Have no faith in the current coverment. Very little for a long, long while already.

    LIONS:
    Can a person who breaks up his own family be able to unite his country?

    I seriously think not.

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  • Xlandjiao:

    Has xlandjiao find the solution? Eh?

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  • MarBowling:

    Top beam not straight, bottom sure slanting. Why? Pay Not Enough?

    Anyway, his Big Daddy Lee Kayu is damn right. Pay peanuts get monkeys. Looks like the top guns in the PAPigs and civil service set up, their ob$cene $alarie$ are STILL NOT ENOUGH. Their problems solving mouthpiece Ms DisGraceFool is damn right to KPKB about the pay cut a few years ago. Like Lee Kayu once mentioned that his World Class Ministers and top guns in the civil service are handling $billions and they should be paid proportionately. Citizens shouldn’t get green and red eyes and KPKB about their pay and should shut up and sit down.

    Over to you, Selected or Secret Committee, do something about these grossly UNDERPAID Ministers and top civil servants, before all the Beams come falling down!

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  • Dr Tan Tai Wei:

    Naturally questions raised as to what others not found out. And such a huge amount cheated before it’s missed. Then, possibly lesser amounts still undiscovered?

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  • pap selected INDIAN president:


    Singapore is doomed under PM Lee Hsien Loong, says former Presidential candidate Tan Kin Lian.

    … Mr Tan said that this would not have happened during Lee Kuan Yew’s time, adding that the case “shows clearly the deplorable state of our civil service and the political leadership.”

    we agree 100%. so true.

    Singapore is certainly doomed under departed pap evil lky clown prince. there is no doubt. the doom is very subtle. like cooking frog in slow fire porridge. unless the frog is wise like us, the frog wouldn’t notice the rising temperature. and ends up cooked in the end. such is the fate of 70% sheep. slow boiled by departed evil lky clown prince.

    and 70% sheep still very happy about it. WTF.

    we have never agreed with the evils under departed pap evil lky. even so. we are fair. such deplorable state of Singapore as we are seeing today wouldn’t have happened during departed pap evil lky’s time. such deplorable state of Singapore’s civil service and such lack of political leadership is a testament to the rule that strong father may not strong son.

    and all these is because of weak clown leader surrounding himself with weak followers. the yes sir yes sir time. when top is crooked, bottom never straight. Singapore as it exists today is certainly doomed.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    NOT one pap Lj or pap Cb has stood up to ask how come INSIDE is not within 200m. NOT one. all blinded by pap S$m. WTF.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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  • With Me, For Me, For MyFamiLee:

    What do paper generals have in common? They asked for budget and spend to budget, and in the process getting their balls polished. Since when they know how to make money for the organization? Or have common sense? Need I show you examples? Look at peaM, Ah Quek, Ah Ng…

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  • pap selected INDIAN president:

    Change We Must:
    It is very worrying. The whole nation is scratching their heads. What’s happening with our talented civil service? They are paid so much yet very disappointing.
    I am sure they are many many scamming the government funds, but they are not caught yet. By the time they catch them, it already too late, all the scammed money disappear and shipped out of Singapore.
    Problem is , the government has too much of our money and the civil service just create some useless initiatives to get funding and they have to spend it somehow or else they will make themselves a fool. Understand there are quite a lot of scamming in the research funds as well.

    when pap puts in useless 3 star general in AStar we knew it was going to be an utter waste of taxpayer money. this pap useless 3 star general is so ffffing useless. tell you a story. USA researcher invited back to Singapore for interview. all he heard was shouting, we want results we want results. as if it was army camp. so USA researcher didn’t even bother a second look since organization is run by folks who have NEVER researched anything deeper in his life than mastering the art of shouting at lower ranks and yes sir yes sir to higher ranks.

    it is so true we don’t have any talent in any of our useless 3 star paper generals. look at the other 3 star who sank NOL. look at another useless 3 star who after 5 ffffing long years still mrt langgar some more.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Singapore is doomed when its leaders tell lies like eating bread. INSIDE is not within 200m also can say. INDIAN is malay also can say. DOOMED. WTF.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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  • Repent, Kama will be on you.:

    Singapore is in a very bad shape since LHL took over. See how they fixed opposition parties (especially Roy, HHH and the Worker Party, and the Human Right Society, the list will go on).

    As LHL did mention in one of his speech that he has to spend much time as to how to “FIX” these peoples. They are only good in such and not in fixing the problems, we Singaporeans are facing.

    Indian is Malay, he cannot see the future. So are all his stupid idiots in his party. They all claimed that they are very “STUPID” and hence need to be compensated by millions of $$ to face the insults. We only need a small space to FXXK. Yes, in a car we can do it, am I not correct, mdm?

    See how he handled the Lee’s Ox. How he prefers to preserve it for the silly 69.9% to worship and adore. Simply slaughter the Ox and reopen the road for the public to use.

    LHL, see how your siblings described you. You are really what they had mentioned. Sorry to say but you need a mirror to reflect yourself. Repent now or else you have to pay heavily for your bad deeds. Do you want to lie on your bed for another decade and to decay?

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  • Was all the money recover ???:

    @….allegedly scammed SkillsFuture Singapore (SSG), of a whopping $40 million through fraudulent claims.

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  • Kittens:

    @ Can a person who breaks up his own family be able to unite his country?
    I seriously think not.

    Boy man, you seriously need to do homework and polish up your Chinese history.

    Li shi MIN tang emperor.

    If you go further in aplenty !

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  • National woes:

    Q: What’s the difference between praying in church and prayer in a casino?

    A: In the church your prayer may get distracted; in a casino, you really mean it!

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  • C'est la vie:

    *****
    Make no mistake, S$40m is no small negligible sum.

    A syndicate of 3 men and 2 women had the better of an “elite” and “cream of the crop” civil service; “hand picked” by the “accomplished” SGov for their superior and superlative “traits”, or similar, as we are lead to believe.

    This “fiddle” merely affirms that SGov and its “affiliates” roost in a sleepy, sluggish and slow fishing village, and probably their reaction, agility of mind and speed of response is allied to that !!!
    ***
    *****

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  • NotMyProblem:

    I had mentioned several times before that all these courses of skill upgrading, workplace safety etc are only benefits for those course providers. And you can see who are these course providers.

    Case in point, take a look a those trainers for bizSafe, they are mostly ex-factory inspectors from MOM. MOM was providing employment to these retrenched employees.

    I have attended a course on Changing Mindset for IT. It was a totally useless course. Everyone is already in IT, like it or not, why need a course to tell us this. Near 98% of the people is carrying the IT in his/her pockets and we still need to be told to change our mindset to accept IT.

    You can also see what type of training provided by E2i!! Go check it out!!

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  • Jim:

    This is just the tip of the iceberg
    How do you explain the state of disrepair in the mrt
    Downtown line barely 6 months old (downtown line 3) already breaking up
    Colossal sums spend , and now the kitty is near empty
    Taxes , water rates, coes, even terminal 5 , they have to raise airport charges to finance it
    Bad omen for Singapore

    I remember Mahathir nearly bankrupt the nation building Putrajaya and the Petronas twin tower
    Decades ago, to boast who has the tallest structure in the world to reach high heaven
    Singapore is now not far from it
    At least msia got oil, rubber, palm oil,
    We got nothing but the grin of the big clown

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  • Bobo:

    The incredible five can join PAP to run this country very well. Skill training is a waste of time and wastage of tax payers money. I heard housewives love to attend because they have S$350 to S$400 to take as ang bao. They are not poor so don’t need to seek for job.

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  • Bapak:

    He is paid millions and trained to fix anything,including his family. That’s how useless he is. Shortsighted Sinkies don’t even see this.

    LIONS:
    Can a person who breaks up his own family be able to unite his country?

    I seriously think not.

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  • Bapak:

    I was once introduced to a civil servant, fresh on the job by his Dy Director. He was told put in charge of a project (out of his scope of work) together with me.

    To our surprised, his first word was – why him, no extra pay for doing so why should he? He outright rejected it and walked away. He must be connected as I noticed the Dy Director (was so embarassed) also dare not to say further. The project was shelved indefinitely.

    This was and is the current civil servants’ mindset.

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  • Rabble-rouser:

    The joke is that the PAP had made S’pore so hard to ‘tan-chiak’(to make an honest living), that people on the fringe are willing to risk it all by offending the law (go to jail) simply to make a quick buck. I believe there are more to come simply because in the drive to reward themselves (ie. PAP Ministers) millions, they have opened up a Pandora’s Box of envy, ego, wannabe rich & ‘ownself reward ownself’ mentality using whatever scams or dishonest means, etc. For a so-called Great Statesman, the late LKY did all the wrong things that not only destroy his own legacy but S’pore as well.
    S’pore today have degenerated into a ‘u screw me, I screw u!’ eco-system of a dog-eat-dog mentality. Meritocracy has become a game of opportunity where the street smart fringe lawbreakers takes pleasure to hoodwink the Scholars in govt & make them look like fools that they really are. Remember the lowly SIA payroll clerk who scammed $35 million from SIA over 13 years?
    Link: https://www.police.gov.sg/resources/prevent-crime/commercial-crimes/case-studies/investigation/cad-files/sia-scandal-how-35-million-was-stolen-over-13-years
    Another was car dealers who rorted the COE system & the LTA by registering an open COE on a Honda Cub & scrapping it the next day, getting a full refund of the open COE from LTA. And LTA was totally embarrassed by this event because it showed how street smart that the car dealers were to exploit a loophole within the LTA system.
    Long & short of it is that the PAP should be more like a conventional govt ie. get out of business, stop collect excess monies, stop being so smart & concentrate on areas of enhancing public education, providing efficient & affordable public transportation, housing & regulate the economy to ensure a level playing field.
    In the sense, S’pore under the PAP waste their considerable energies to come up with new laws to rip off the people, while the fringe work on their weakness to exploit for loopholes. In the process, the whole country goes to the dogs ie. honest hardworking people are marginalized & thrown under the bus. Am I not right?

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  • TYT Network:

    Not only just pinky

    the whole lot must go including lackeys and appointees

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  • MarBowling:

    Rabble-rouser:
    December 22, 2017 at 2:00 pm (Quote)
    The joke is that the PAP had made S’pore so hard to ‘tan-chiak’(to make an honest living), that people on the fringe are willing to risk it all by offending the law (go to jail) simply to make a quick buck. I believe there are more to come simply because in the drive to reward themselves (ie. PAP Ministers) millions, they have opened up a Pandora’s Box of envy, ego, wannabe rich & ‘ownself reward ownself’ mentality using whatever scams or dishonest means, etc. For a so-called Great Statesman, the late LKY did all the wrong things that not only destroy his own legacy but S’pore as well.

    Response: great comments. Those MFs previously and currently benefitting the schemes of things designed by Lee Kayu and his FAMILEE in the last 50 years are MOSTLY those LJs and CBs grasslooter and grass-eating LEEders awarded with grand titles like PBM, BBM.

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  • Uncle Lim:

    Mainstreet Citizen:
    Billions of $$$ from casinos taxes and fees but money no enough!
    Billions of $$$ from Singapore Pools but money no enough!
    Billions of $$$ from E.R.P. but money no enough!
    Billions of $$$ from G.S.T but money no enough!
    Billions of $$$ from C.O.E but money no enough!
    Billions of $$$ from record Temasek portfolio but money no enough!
    Billions of $$$ from land sales but money no enough!
    Billions of $$$ from work permits and licensing fees but money no enough
    Paid ownself big big $$$, money is enough!
    Paid P.A. billion $$$, money is enough!
    People you decide, Enough is Enough!

    Excellent.

    Billions from road tax, money not enough
    Billions from street parking, money not enough
    Billions from checkpoint tolls, money not enough
    All these billions are needed to pay themselves and to pay off their MPs to close one eye to abuse of power and authority
    And the greatest scam in history is the COE. Every month at least a billion of Free money earned. World’s best money making scheme.

    (Street Parking now extended to 10pm)

    Now where did all the billions go to?

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  • Uncle Lim:

    Rabble-rouser:
    The joke is that the PAP had made S’pore so hard to ‘tan-chiak’(to make an honest living), that people on the fringe are willing to risk it all by offending the law (go to jail) simply to make a quick buck. I believe there are more to come simply because in the drive to reward themselves (ie. PAP Ministers) millions, they have opened up a Pandora’s Box of envy, ego, wannabe rich & ‘ownself reward ownself’ mentality using whatever scams or dishonest means, etc. For a so-called Great Statesman, the late LKY did all the wrong things that not only destroy his own legacy but S’pore as well.
    S’pore today have degenerated into a ‘u screw me, I screw u!’ eco-system of a dog-eat-dog mentality. Meritocracy has become a game of opportunity where the street smart fringe lawbreakers takes pleasure to hoodwink the Scholars in govt & make them look like fools that they really are. Remember the lowly SIA payroll clerk who scammed $35 million from SIA over 13 years?
    Link: https://www.police.gov.sg/resources/prevent-crime/commercial-crimes/case-studies/investigation/cad-files/sia-scandal-how-35-million-was-stolen-over-13-years
    Another was car dealers who rorted the COE system & the LTA by registering an open COE on a Honda Cub & scrapping it the next day, getting a full refund of the open COE from LTA. And LTA was totally embarrassed by this event because it showed how street smart that the car dealers were to exploit a loophole within the LTA system.
    Long & short of it is that the PAP should be more like a conventional govt ie. get out of business, stop collect excess monies, stop being so smart & concentrate on areas of enhancing public education, providing efficient & affordable public transportation, housing & regulate the economy to ensure a level playing field.
    In the sense, S’pore under the PAP waste their considerable energies to come up with new laws to rip off the people, while the fringe work on their weakness to exploit for loopholes. In the process, the whole country goes to the dogs ie. honest hardworking people are marginalized & thrown under the bus. Am I not right?

    Well said.

    Trouble is the more they lie, they’ve to come out with more lies to cover up the initial lies. Besides, it’s Leegim is clearly self serving out to enrich themselves.

    Any thoughts about improving our lives is a mere afterthought. Secondary.

    It’s everybody for himself. Just don’t get caught…

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  • dolphin81:

    Dear readers

    While I respect the opinion of Mr Tan Kin Lian, a ruling cartel member when he was CEO of NTUC income until 2007, I have this question to ask:

    When he was in the cartel, did his actions or the promotion of his organisational interests play a role in the decline of SG?

    We ordinary Sinkies complain about supposed PAP cronyism leading to the supposed decline of SG. At the same time, if such an opinion is factually correct, then we have to highlight that based on this opinion, Mr Tan Kin Lian is himself a PAP crony.

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  • Get lee Wei Ling to be new PM, sack away TCH, Shan, Ng and Khaw an those useless ministers

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  • DOOM:

    YOU BELIEVE THE SCAM MADE BY 5 PPL ??

    NO WONDER LKY CALL YOU “DAFT’S”

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  • Bapak:

    I don’t think so bro. I had an opportunity to deal with NTUC Income when he was the CEO. He personally came to meet me and go through the terms & conditions with his men before awarding the job.

    That experience shown to me he was a careful CEO in spending money. The rest, no comment.

    dolphin81:
    Dear readers

    While I respect the opinion of Mr Tan Kin Lian, a ruling cartel member when he was CEO of NTUC income until 2007, I have this question to ask:

    When he was in the cartel, did his actions or the promotion of his organisational interests play a role in the decline of SG?

    We ordinary Sinkies complain about supposed PAP cronyism leading to the supposed decline of SG. At the same time, if such an opinion is factually correct, then we have to highlight that based on this opinion, Mr Tan Kin Lian is himself a PAP crony.

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  • Mr Khawk from Penang:

    Bobo:
    The incredible five can join PAP to run this country very well. Skill training is a waste of time and wastage of tax payers money. I heard housewives love to attend because they have S$350 to S$400 to take as ang bao. They are not poor so don’t need to seek for job.

    But soonkies accept by way of being timid to question and voice up.

    In times of war, how many is gutsy enough to stay and DEFND WITH THEIR LIVES?

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  • TUCK WAN:

    How about the bribery case in Brazil.
    Keppal paid $442M in fine. All points to Dooms day. God Bless Singapore

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  • N.Jungne:

    dolphin81:
    Dear readers

    While I respect the opinion of Mr Tan Kin Lian, a ruling cartel member when he was CEO of NTUC income until 2007, I have this question to ask

    Response: What has happened to great discount “[email protected]$3/=each”

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  • PM LHL, Please Resign ASAP!:

    HarderTruths:
    Kin Lian

    You are a little late to the party. That’s already well known and old news. You need to network more.

    So What, if it is old news? I have not heard of this news! I am sure many people also have not heard of this news.

    The point here is not whether it is ‘old’ news or ‘new’ news. The focus is on the complacency and incompetency of the civil service under the political leadership of LHL!

    Anyway, if it is bad news for the ruling party, as always, they (PAPpy and elitist cronies) will always try to conceal publicity or accord a low profile reporting.

    This is the Real Problem of PAPpy style of government! ; lacks transparency, boastful, loves to ‘wayang’, abuse of corrupt power by placing their own obedient cronies (does not seems to matter whether they are incapable or inexperience) paying them probably the highest civil service salaries in the world!

    Under LKY, many heads will row. Remember Teh Cheang Wan? He was the Minister of National Development who committed suicide in 1986 because of corruption!

    LKY did not ask him to ‘go and die’. He took his own life because out of his respect for the of the strong leadership of LYK. Anyway, of Teh has not committed suicide, he would have been ‘fired’ and sent to long term jail imprisonment!

    The point here is that under LHL, I have yet to see him sack any of his ministers!

    PM Lee should resign asap, no need to wait until he turns 70.

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  • Rotten PAP:

    nathan:
    Remember the pen is mightier than the sword robbery in holland-village-stanchart-bank in 2017. Just hand over a note to the bank-teller to demand $30,000. And the robber got it. It was that easy. Within a short-period, on the same day, he was able to evade the police and the ICA and fled to Thailand. It was that easy. He is now serving 14 months in Thai prison not for the robbery in Singapore but for other crimes he admitted to committing.

    The rot starts at the top and spread to the bottom. This is what’s is happening in Singapore under PM Lee Hsien Loong.

    Great Point! Too much of good money, good life under a complacent LHL government!

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  • Rotten PAP:

    nathan:
    Remember the pen is mightier than the sword robbery in holland-village-stanchart-bank in 2017. Just hand over a note to the bank-teller to demand $30,000. And the robber got it. It was that easy. Within a short-period, on the same day, he was able to evade the police and the ICA and fled to Thailand. It was that easy. He is now serving 14 months in Thai prison not for the robbery in Singapore but for other crimes he admitted to committing.

    The rot starts at the top and spread to the bottom. This is what’s is happening in Singapore under PM Lee Hsien Loong.

    Great Point! Too much of good money, good life (for the top civil servants only and politicians) under a complacent LHL elitist government!

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  • Rotten PAP:

    pap selected INDIAN president:

    we agree 100%. so true.

    Singapore is certainly doomed under departed pap evil lky clown prince. there is no doubt. the doom is very subtle. like cooking frog in slow fire porridge. unless the frog is wise like us, the frog wouldn’t notice the rising temperature. and ends up cooked in the end. such is the fate of 70% sheep. slow boiled by departed evil lky clown prince.

    By the time the majority realised that they are slowly being cooked, the elitist crooks (under LHL style of government) would have already made exit plans.

    Tons of obscene self rewarding salary cash $$$ have been diverted to invest in properties and other assets all over the world!

    Many had family members sent for overseas education and including migration to countries such as Canada, Australia NZ, USA, HK, UK, etc.

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  • Wake Up Josephine T:

    Repent, Kama will be on you.: Indian is Malay, he cannot see the future. So are all his stupid idiots in his party. They all claimed that they are very “STUPID” and hence need to be compensated by millions of $$ to face the insults. We only need a small space to FXXK. Yes, in a car we can do it, am I not correct, mdm?

    Madam has the millions of $ to invest in luxurious properties and FXXK in comfort without having to sweat in a car! hahaha

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  • LHL's grin:

    Repent, Kama will be on you.: Indian is Malay, he cannot see the future. So are all his stupid idiots in his party. They all claimed that they are very “STUPID” and hence need to be compensated by millions of $$ to face the insults. We only need a small space to FXXK. Yes, in a car we can do it, am I not correct, mdm?

    Madam has the millions of $ to invest in luxurious properties and FXXK in comfort without having to sweat in a car! hahaha

    Jim:
    This is just the tip of the iceberg
    How do you explain the state of disrepair in the mrt
    Downtown line barely 6 months old (downtown line 3) already breaking up
    Colossal sums spend , and now the kitty is near empty
    Taxes , water rates, coes, even terminal 5 , they have to raise airport charges to finance it
    Bad omen for Singapore

    I remember Mahathir nearly bankrupt the nation building Putrajaya and the Petronas twin tower
    Decades ago, to boast who has the tallest structure in the world to reach high heaven
    Singapore is now not far from it
    At least msia got oil, rubber, palm oil,
    We got nothing but the grin of the big clown

    LHL’s grin is because he knows he is ‘fireproof’ and dares to reward himself the highest political salary in the world, about 5 times the average salary of a First World developed country leader.

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  • Squeaking clean in opacity:

    In opacity, squeaking smells trouble and definitely it cannot be clean. xero tolerance can breed multimillion corruptin crime is definitely non congrent. If it has not be Brazil, the claim will be safe in the land plagued with plps or bootlickers in li s queeno englisho nut you will be trumped as brownosers in nepotic brotherhood. Keppel Corp share holders are penalized for the greed and corruptivro tolerance how is ie management. If it is zero tolerance, how is ot the public and company auditors didn’t smell the rat for a period of more than a decade. Now it came in the open, why no personnels wrre charged why are they still in opacity under the incessant claim of zero tolerance. But this incurred hundreds of millions. Goh CT has misconstrued that with millions payout in remuneration if corruption upon greed takes place it would be at that level most probably into billions. Corruption is seen to be nom foolproof but self gratificstion on the pretext of madate is cpnsistent and devoid og legsl persecution. Political Science teaches that the mandate to governance does not include self gratifivation. in a multiparties environment, checks and balance could minimally ensured no self gratification but in a single party rule self gratification really implied legalising corruption. Under such single party regime anything akin to self gratification should be sanction by the people in a nationsl referendum. This include salary, bonuses, benefits and modigication of the Constitution. Without such procedure it really mean n

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  • Hawking Eye:

    Actually for paying millions to PM and his Ministers as salaries (the highest in the world) we get peanut service from them, relatively speaking. They use subterfuge and tactics tools to achieve what they want though these may not be favourably seen by the public.

    In the eyes of PAP Government, Dr Tan Cheng Bock, an outsider, was almost a sure bet to win in an open Presidential election. So change the rule to reserve the presidential election for a Malay candidate which will neatly bar the candidacy of Cheng Bock and allow for Halimah Yacob to be elected. Then again, going by IC profile (the standard norm used to establish one’s identity and ethnicity) Halimah is Indian (by the fact her father was an Indian) but PAP presented her as Malay and got her elected without contest. The criteria bar was set so high (requiring a private sector candidate to be a CEO of a company/organisation with $500 million paid capital and running it for preceding 3 years showing profit or something to that effect) to knock out any other potential Malay candidate. In all these, the elephant – or the harimau (tiger) – in the room was not Halimah Yacob but the PAP.

    The PAP is good in reverse engineering and can come out with plans to thwart the Opposition. Single ward seat contests (which is the norm for almost all countries in the world) give the Opposition more opportunity to win, so reduce the numbers drastically and create GRCs (in calculated plan and hope) to provide more winning seats for the PAP and much less for the Opposition, if at all.

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  • Mad Wolf:

    Singapore is more doomed if pap stay in power.

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  • Kelvinwang:

    Yes, change is a must! Taxes gonning up? Are we helping to pay for the $500 election ang pow given to 130+ civil/public servants in GE2015? And shy build another JC (Eunoia at Marymount) when students enrolment arbe dropping and JC are merging!

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  • Jefftan:

    The greatest danger to Singapore is democracy.

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  • asd:

    damage already done .. . m$ already gone .. .

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  • oxygen:

    @ Jefftan

    SILLY BOY FARTING GAS here. How can that rhetoric be true?

    Jefftan: The greatest danger to Singapore is democracy.

    To avoid doubt, please ask PRESENT TENSE. He told BBC journalist that NOBODY GOT A MONOPOLY OF WISDOM OR VIRTUE.

    PAST TENSE, gone to TERN SUA already, also said that no American President has perfect information despite surrounded by a panel of economic, political and intelligence advisers.

    That means that if a dictator rule LEE-jiapore is an absolute moron and screw up its economy to infinity of disaster without check and balance (which Tharman said of current model is BOTH POLITICALLY AND ECONOMICALLY STUPID and I agree to that assessment), wouldn’t a dictatorship lead LEE-jiapore down the spiral route to sudden death collapse faster?

    DICTATORSHIP MEANS STOP THINKING AND DEMANDING PEASANTS SUBJECT ALSO STOP THINKING – no matter all the obvious failing manifestations clear to all except the absolute moron and blind, isn’t this the end game of failure inevitable?

    You need to grew a little t*sticle of wisdom to survive in this complex challenging world, mate.

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  • 陈大婶:

    改国号,换,五星白期

    Jefftan:
    The greatest danger to Singapore is democracy.

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  • Selfish Sinkie Syndrome:

    Rabble-rouser:
    The joke is that the PAP had made S’pore so hard to ‘tan-chiak’(to make an honest living), that people on the fringe are willing to risk it all by offending the law (go to jail) simply to make a quick buck. I believe there are more to come simply because in the drive to reward themselves (ie. PAP Ministers) millions, they have opened up a Pandora’s Box of envy, ego, wannabe rich & ‘ownself reward ownself’ mentality using whatever scams or dishonest means, etc. For a so-called Great Statesman, the late LKY did all the wrong things that not only destroy his own legacy but S’pore as well.
    S’pore today have degenerated into a ‘u screw me, I screw u!’ eco-system of a dog-eat-dog mentality. Meritocracy has become a game of opportunity where the street smart fringe lawbreakers takes pleasure to hoodwink the Scholars in govt & make them look like fools that they really are. Remember the lowly SIA payroll clerk who scammed $35 million from SIA over 13 years?

    Another was car dealers who rorted the COE system & the LTA by registering an open COE on a Honda Cub & scrapping it the next day, getting a full refund of the open COE from LTA. And LTA was totally embarrassed by this event because it showed how street smart that the car dealers were to exploit a loophole within the LTA system.
    Long & short of it is that the PAP should be more like a conventional govt ie. get out of business, stop collect excess monies, stop being so smart & concentrate on areas of enhancing public education, providing efficient & affordable public transportation, housing & regulate the economy to ensure a level playing field.

    In the sense, S’pore under the PAP waste their considerable energies to come up with new laws to rip off the people, while the fringe work on their weakness to exploit for loopholes. In the process, the whole country goes to the dogs ie. honest hardworking people are marginalized & thrown under the bus. Am I not right?

    This is one of the best comments here. Hit the bull’s eye.

    However, we still have many Sinkies who still cannot give up their Leeligious cult and suggesting that some other famiLEE take over the reins. Don’t know whether to cry or to laugh at these Sinkies. Forget Lee Dynasty. It is best for Singapore to remove ALL Lees or Li and go back to basics.

    Loko@hormail.com:
    Get lee Wei Ling to be new PM, sack away TCH, Shan, Ng and Khaw an those useless ministers

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  • Contradiction:

    At least we can comfort ourselves that the fraud was discovered..
    Hopefully that actions will be taken to prevent such things from happening.

    Measures should be tightened to ensure that whichever schemes that the govt thinks up of should have sufficient safeguards to prevent fraud as part of the overall system during policy formulation

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  • Hawking Eye:

    There is a long politics related silence from DPMs Tharman and Teo Chee Hean (lesser so). Is there something brewing between them and PM Lee Hsien Loong perhaps over the Lee family matters and the Oxley Road house and how it affects trust in Hsien Loong or for that matter trust in the government?

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  • oxygen:

    @ Contradiction

    IT IS NAIVE TO INFINITY to hallucinate that such a thing will never happen again with “safeguards” in place. Wishful thinking and PAPpys fart of fiction there.

    IT WAS PATENTLY OBVIOUS THAT RATS WERE SCRAMBLING AROUND IN THAT PLACE where food is being handed out in distribution – metaphorically speaking. Skills Future has ZERO SKILLS within but a mob of walking farts not knowing what they were doing.

    How could there be disbursement for up to 80,000 skills traineeship placements in such a short time – when they definitely don’t have class-rooms to fit in so many and haven’t got enough trainers to do the skills training.

    IT IS GROSS NEGLIGENT AND MALADMINISTRATION IN THE EXTREME OF ICONIC FONT PROPORTION OF STUPIDITY TO IMPOSSIBILITY – exactly like the AG detected $800K disbursement for a little space to put in rubbish bin in one Ministry – a clear sign of CORRUPT CONDUCT even if no financial corruption takes place.

    How could all these ridiculous maladministration takes place under the nose of multi-million paid PAPpys natural aristocrats (natural only when it comes to public money of welfare harvesting of ownself-cheque-ownself scam of corrupt conduct as well)?

    Contradiction: At least we can comfort ourselves that the fraud was discovered..
    Hopefully that actions will be taken to prevent such things from happening.

    Measures should be tightened to ensure that whichever schemes that the govt thinks up of should have sufficient safeguards to prevent fraud as part of the overall system during policy formulation

    Here is the likely answer – IT IS DICTATORSHIP AND MERITOCRATIC NEPOTISM. Once the divine “POO YI” is installed in each honey pot of gold/money and wealth disbution channel (power point), it is immovable deadwood of fallen tall trees (Liu Tuck Yew boast in the 2011 election that PAPpys are tall trees which foreigners from afar came to admire and opposition are poisonous mushrooms) corrupt to the core. They stopped thinking and demand the subjects ruled to also stop thinking – IT IS THE END GAME OF POWER AND POWER EXERCISE.

    The natural consequence is that Sinkies are reduced to caterpillars best understood in Dr. Tan Cheng Bock categorisation as…very obedient, insecure and many a time, fearful of authority.

    The employed at all levels in Skills Future just approved and disbursed, and the “beneficiaries” outside laughing all the way to the bank and back.

    HOW CAN THIS SORT OF INCOMPETENT MALADMINISTRATION NOT HAPPEN AGAIN IN YOUR WISHFUL THINKING AND PIOUS IMAGINATION?

    PAST TENSE WOULD HAVE SACKED ALL MONKEYS LONG AGO.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Mad Wolf

    EXACTLY RIGHT – the corruption of power abuse is insidious – the skeletons is falling out of the cupboards everywhere from minibond losses (since when Town Councils have legal authority to manage peasants’ conservancy sinking funds??) AIM software $2 corrupt sales to enrich pedigrees, 800K paid for rubbish bin storage space, and now this $40 million ICONIC AND IRONIC (windy happy contradictions of Skills Future has no administrative skills within itself) FONT TO HIGH HEAVEN of impossibility of 80,000 attendees signed up for skills future (unless they build a mega-size university suddenly to take in 80,000 students in one enrolment exercise – GIANT FONT OF STUPIDITY, MALADMINISTRATION AND CORRUPT CONDUCT going on & sleeping inside???

    Mad Wolf: Singapore is more doomed if pap stay in power.

    PAST TENSE SHOULD KICK OUT THE NAILS IN HIS COFFIN AND RETURN FROM TERN SUA TO FIACK ALL THESE A*SHOLES who failed his “eastern value” imagined virtues.

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  • nihon:

    MarBowling:
    Rabble-rouser:
    December 22, 2017 at 2:00 pm (Quote)
    The joke is that the PAP had made S’pore so hard to ‘tan-chiak’(to make an honest living), that people on the fringe are willing to risk it all by offending the law (go to jail) simply to make a quick buck. I believe there are more to come simply because in the drive to reward themselves (ie. PAP Ministers) millions, they have opened up a Pandora’s Box of envy, ego, wannabe rich & ‘ownself reward ownself’ mentality using whatever scams or dishonest means, etc. For a so-called Great Statesman, the late LKY did all the wrong things that not only destroy his own legacy but S’pore as well.

    Response: great comments. Those MFs previously and currently benefitting the schemes of things designed by Lee Kayu and his FAMILEE in the last 50 years are MOSTLY those LJs and CBs grasslooter and grass-eating LEEders awarded with grand titles like PBM, BBM.

    yes, like that busted or kim peow. what happened to the investigation on the collapsed ‘bridge’?

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  • nihon:

    a smart crook don’t get caught, but these are stupid crooks.

    madoff was eventually caught n his sons – one died, the other committed suicide. sad.

    the system has plenty of loopholes to play.

    civil serpents and the white clowns/scums are complacent.

    the best way is to scam leegally.

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  • to bloom and grow:

    //In the old days, during the time of LKY, our civil servants would have been capable of preventing the kind of fraud that occurred with the Skills Future scheme.//

    many useless pen-pushing ideas from many white idiotic jiak-liao-bees who don’t understand the ground behaviors. more to come lar. white idiots have already sowed many conditions for a lot of wayang and roti-prata to happen. their open-leg policy is also one good fertile ground for many rubbish to bloom and grow and setting all the wrong examples for people to learn lar.

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  • Can't 'Bluff' All The Time...:

    Somehow or another, the truth will be out eventually!

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  • Tip of the Iceberg?:

    Maybe…

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  • PAP really has talent:

    PAP plp must be paid millions for coming ip with such fastastic idea of creating a QUIET airport by not announcing the last call for boarding. I hope that no one will come up with the idea of policing and fine any person who talk in the aitport. Gee just imagine how much they collect if a person is fined $1 for each word uttered. Wah tje ministers and all high ranking CS will be jumping with glee for the bonus they will get from the harvest. Also all the airlines would have go pay a fine proportional to the noise they make while taxong or taking off and on landing. SIN minister eill be decorated by all nation to jave such talents working under him. Gee what a quiet airport when you can hear a pin drop 1.0 m away. Hold it for those who are taking a snoose while waiting for the next plane in the wee hours, they would save themselves to have medic treatment if they snore. It could easily cost them thousamd depemding on the snoring decibels. The airport would be mounted with sound detectors and everyone has go pay for a loan of sound ddtector which he or she has to hangover his neck at all time in the airport.
    Don’t be surprise if this is passed with all ayes except the annoying nays from the WPMPs. This is why all opposition must go for without them, the ayes will be a 100% perfect score!

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  • Jman:

    Tan Kin Lian seems to think we live in a world that operates at the speed and complexity of the 1990s.

    It is anything but. And the stakes are all higher as all the numbers are way larger these days.

    There are shortcomings for sure. But it isn’t half as simple as Kin Lian makes it out to be. The breadth and delivery channels of Government schemes is mind boggling these days compared to the skeletal non existent Government assistance of the 1990s.

    Kin Lian, stop sleeping and dreaming. Wake up.

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  • chat-ba-lang "rubbish":

    //There are shortcomings for sure. But it isn’t half as simple as Kin Lian makes it out to be. The breadth and delivery channels of Government schemes is mind boggling these days compared to the skeletal non existent Government assistance of the 1990s.//

    true leh. but but but which ownself-check-ownself entity put (or import or having the ownself-check-ownself singular power to decide) so many complex moving parts (chat-ba-lang “rubbish”) into the system leh with the help of 151th highly rated media environment.

    of course not simple lar, do you think they, namely the white idiots, understand (or can no longer care too much as many things are now difficult to control except giving excuses after excuses).

    and why non existent assistance of the 1990s (public housing below 100k or so) as compared to plenty of rent-seeking now.

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  • Truth Is:

    The truth is PAP didn’t do a good job, this is their mistake, they got to own it.

    They took all the credits, ownself praise ownself and each other for a job well done. They have been taking turns praising each other for this.

    I do agree with Tan Kin Lian that this will not happen during LKY times. I would rather this money be passed to Ho Ching for gambling than to waste it on PAP half baked schemes. If you can’t handle, don’t do it. Don’t wear a hat too big for your small head.

    And my greatest fear is this is just the tip of the iceberg. We have in total billions and billions of dollars all over the place unaccounted for, which are easy targets.

    And there is no excuse for this screwup, we have 3 ministries in charge of Skills Future, Education, Manpower and Trade. At 2 full Ministers from Education, 1 each from Manpower and Trade, and their Minister of State minions.

    EDUCATION
    Mr Ng Chee Meng – Acting Minister (Schools)
    Mr Ong Ye Kung – Acting Minister (Higher Education and Skills)
    Dr Janil Puthucheary – Minister of State from Jan 1, 2016
    Assoc Prof Muhammad Faishal Ibrahim, Ms Low Yen Ling – Parliamentary Secretary

    MANPOWER
    Mr Lim Swee Say – Minister
    Mr Teo Ser Luck, Mr Sam Tan – Minister of State

    TRADE AND INDUSTRY
    Mr Lim Hng Kiang – Minister (Trade)
    Mr S Iswaran – Minister (Industry)
    Dr Koh Poh Koon – Minister of State from Jan 1, 2016
    Ms Low Yen Ling – Parliamentary Secretary

    Jman:
    Tan Kin Lian seems to think we live in a world that operates at the speed and complexity of the 1990s.

    It is anything but. And the stakes are all higher as all the numbers are way larger these days.

    There are shortcomings for sure. But it isn’t half as simple as Kin Lian makes it out to be. The breadth and delivery channels of Government schemes is mind boggling these days compared to the skeletal non existent Government assistance of the 1990s.

    Kin Lian, stop sleeping and dreaming. Wake up.

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  • |The Patriotic Singaporean:

    Tan Kin Lian has a point and I agree with him totally!

    Does anyone know if the five people who scammed SkillsFuture are grassroot leaders and/or PAP members?

    It would be worth investigating!

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  • Integrity and responsibility:

    Parliament sitting shown partially on Newsasia showed the house is empty. Are Sinkies voting MPs knowing how to collect their fat page and lazy to attend the rare Parliament sitting. PAP should publish the attendance of MPs at Parliamentary sitting and should take action against their errant mps. Operating in opacity shows that there are things that needs to hide from the citizens who are more important than the bunch of MPs and the ministers. The nation is the citizenry and the elected MPs must have integrity and sense of responsibility they pledge on oath to the electorate. Opacity can only imply fishy operation and definitely inconsistent with the claim of no corruption nor illegal practice. Why operate in the dark. Adultery, murder, corruption and power obuse invariably occurs in opaqueness to avoid exposure and punishment. Even with transparencies, crimes are committed what if with opaclty. God knows and punishment is beyond imagination. So people in opacity are crime prone and squeaky clean must havecthe audacity to bring matter in the clear.Speculation arises from opacity. True justice can only been seen if speculation are compare with what lie in opacity. To convict speculative accusation without verification with what are actually happen in opacity that cause such speculationbis against the principles of justice. In fact speculation should not be chargeable only opacity is the culprit and should be eradicated.

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  • Integrity and responsibility:

    Parliament sitting shown partially on Newsasia showed the house is empty. Are Sinkies voting MPs knowing how to collect their fat page and lazy to attend the rare Parliament sitting. PAP should publish the attendance of MPs at Parliamentary sitting and should take action against their errant mps. Operating in opacity shows that there are things that needs to hide from the citizens who are more important than the bunch of MPs and the ministers. The nation is the citizenry and the elected MPs must have integrity and sense of responsibility they pledge on oath to the electorate. Opacity can only imply fishy operation and definitely inconsistent with the claim of no corruption nor illegal practice. Why operate in the dark. Adultery, murder, corruption and power obuse invariably occurs in opaqueness to avoid exposure and punishment. Even with transparencies, crimes are committed what if with opaclty. God knows and punishment is beyond imagination. So people in opacity are crime prone and squeaky clean must have tijhhe audacity to bring matter in the clear.Speculation arises from opacity. True justice can only been seen if speculation are jufged relative to what lie in opacity. To convict speculative accusation without verification with what are actually happened or happening in opacity that prompted such speculation is against the principles of justice. In fact speculation should not be chargeable only opacity is and should be heavily convicted for deterrence.

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  • 我爱中国!:

    Regarding Singapore’s Future,
    I am interested to know.

    But first, can someone tell me,
    Is China Embassador to SG in Singapore?

    China is the Greatest most Powerful country in the world.

    I want to serve China and become its loyal servant.

    China should control ASEAN.

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  • Sinking feel:

    Gone are claims Sinkapore is number 1. Yu no longer hear it. Neither did Yu hear Lee Loony says corruptions in any form will not be tolerated. The TanCB incidence shows the cold feet of Son versus Father and the erosion of supports. The Halimah fix-up shows weakness and cheating. The AG advise remained outstanding till today. The quick replacement of AG shows. The Terex and OROB saga shows outsider willing to show their strength. The collapse of concrete bridge , the train collisions and flooding all pointing to mismanagement and running on auto-mode.

    All these shows a sinking governance. And a government no longer in control.. while all these are taking place, Asian nations had surpasses us in their economy, while Singapore is languishing chasing after peanuts. .

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