Minister Desmond Lee: Blame the weather but don’t anyhow blame HDB for popping tiles

On 5 Feb, MND Minister Desmond Lee anyhow suggested in Parliament that the cool weather had caused tiles to go pop in more than 700 HDB flats last month. (CNA)

If what Desmond claimed is true, then there should have been at least one hundred cases of tiles popping in private apartments or condominiums.  There wasn’t.

Although record low temperatures have also been recorded in other countries, there wasn’t any pop pop news elsewhere …  except in little red dot.

Since tiles had gone berserk in mostly HDB flats, logically, the cause must have been poor workmanship: HDB was the tile installer for more than half of the affected flats while HDB-accredited contractors had installed the remaining flats.

As the supply of skilled tilers is inelastic, it is also very likely that unqualified general workers might have been employed as tilers for HDB’s massive construction programme after it was found wanting in GE 2011.

HDB likely took a huge risk with lessees’ flats because it knew that renovation issues would take years to pop up/surface. Lessees also do not have the means to sue HDB till its pants drop for what was obviously an issue of shoddy workmanship.

And yes, HDB has a record of shoddy workmanship, including ECs and premium flats:
https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/shoddy-workmanship-new-yishun-ec-shocks-some-residents
https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2015/05/14/500-new-dbss-flat-buyers-upset-over-poor-quality-of-flats/
https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2015/06/13/another-group-of-new-homeowners-complain-about-defects-in-flats/
http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/bto-flat-owners-turn-facebook-share-anxiety-and-fears
etc

MPs should not act dumb and reject Desmond’s guess.  An independent committee should have been convened instead of allowing HDB to own self check own self.

If a highly-paid PAP minister could anyhow hantam in Parliament, then perhaps Singaporeans should just elect Ah Kow at a fraction of Desmond’s pay.

 

Phillip Ang

* The author blogs at LikeDatOsoCanMeh.

 

 

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20 Responses to “Minister Desmond Lee: Blame the weather but don’t anyhow blame HDB for popping tiles”

  • Much Evil & Greedy Than Think:

    As said many times, the PAP will never admit any mistake as this will undermine the basis of their astronomical salaries.
    If these highly paid greedy stars are not infallible, then how are they different from a much cheaper common sinkie daft?

    A typical dictatorship is to indoctrinate falsehoods and myths to reinforce their rule. Isn’t that the reason to enshrine Oxley road as well?

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  • Much Evil & Greedy Than Think:

    …..
    As said many times, the PAP will never admit any mistake as this will undermine the basis of their astronomical salaries.
    If these highly paid greedy stars are not infallible, then how are they different from a much cheaper common sinkie daft?

    A typical dictatorship is to indoctrinate falsehoods and myths to reinforce their rule. Isn’t that the reason to enshrine Oxley road as well?

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  • N.Jungne:

    Aiyah the Sky has eyes to see lah, which is build by the Gabramen HDB and are the private housing project.

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  • Spot on each time mr ang:

    I love the way Mr Philip Ang always gives it to them PAPs good n proper.
    Keep it up, Sir!
    We the ord citizens thank you. Cheers!

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  • Example of "fake news":

    An excellent example of “fake news”. The cold snap triggered the popping of tiles but it is not the underlying cause. The underlying cause is the air gap (a good thermal insulator) between the tiles and concrete slab they are laid on. The gap prevents effective heat transfer. It should have been filled mortar (cement and sand mixture) when the tiles are fixed. The mortar fixes the tile to the base and also ensure there is no temperature differential (therefore no thermal stress) between the tile and the concrete base. Tiles, concrete and rebars have the same coefficient of thermal expansion so the tile and concrete base would not separate if there is proper heat transfer. (That is why these can be used in temperate countries which have a wide range of temperature changes.)

    Due to shoddy workmanship by HDB contractors (and poor supervision by HDB) the tiles were not properly installed. To save cost and have more profit, the contractors most likely also used more sand than cement for the (insufficient) mortar used to fix tiles.

    This is inexcusable considering the price of HDB flats have more than doubled over the last 12 years. It is also easy to check if the tiles were properly fixed. Just knock the tile with a hard object after it is fixed. If there is a hollow sound then the tile is not properly fixed.

    It is also clear why the Government/PAP will never solve the MRT problem. Shoddy work by contractors and poor project supervision by government agencies.

    Singapore is really still a 3rd world country. Really time for regime change. But sadly, the education system has made the majority of Singaporeans stupid and/or spineless.

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  • JacobAbraham:

    If ” cool weather had caused tiles to go pop” then why are we so worried about CO2 causing global warming?? Lets have more CO2 emission so warm weather will solve all HDB popping tiles problem!!

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  • Train of cold spells:

    Q: What did the penguin say when it swam into an ice wall?
    A: “Damn the cold draught!”

    Q: What did the hdb auntie scream when her tiles began popping pop pop?

    A: Huat sio, huat sio ah!

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  • oxygen:

    @ PHILLIP ANG,

    EVERY TIME A WISE PAPpy monkey goes on a preaching wisdom journey, you know a circus show is ON!

    Even the floor tiles “living” in public housing EXCLUSIVELY explode in protest anguish of this ignorance exceeding arrogance. In the years gone by, POTTY NEWS PUBLISHING bombarded peasants incessantly – almost every day I would say – of PAPpy’s moralizing of its wisdom and FAKE NEWS MORAL LEGAL AUTHORITY. Unfortunately, 70% of the daft Sinkies in LEE-jiapore still swallow this sh*t lock-stock-and-barrel. The moralising now tapers off a lot in recent years with cyberspace doing its rounds of “error corrections” BUT WHATEVER THAT COMES FROM PAPpys mouth-sh*t is still “sh*t” guaranteed.

    That is why you see PAPpys sponsored a lot of politically-correct XIAO-KENG institute of mental health (and then cursing later of “not-getting-enough-value-for-money comedy groaning” – residing inside of course are a mob of politically-correct f*rtheads – always ready at the right moment to raise hands, f*rting wisdom to add to this moralizing pollution.

    As one blogger @ Haigen Daiz cut it succinctly correct – PAPpys are their “OWN ECHO CHAMBER” – often so stupid of their public utterance that they don’t even yet discover the harder truth of what they learnt and knew is a dot of information and wisdom in the ocean of truth and the only way they will ever progress and learn anything is to FOCUS ON DISCOVERING/LEARNING THE MINDS AND CONTRIBUTION OF INDEPENDENT MINDS outside their dumb parasitic echo chambers of xiao-thing-tongs.

    It is easier to rule of dictatorship by suppression of contrary thoughts – even if these comes from little children which Kishore Mahbubani don’t find particularly appetizing.

    PAPpys thrives on the celebration of their failures by deluding peasants with 1% truth, 99% lies, fantasy and propaganda. One moment, you see PAPpy talking cawked about MPs have obligations to discover falsity mischief of misleading deceptions whilst writing mitigation pleas for their constituents to supporting such illegal representations on “urgent cases” – ONLY TO CHANGE THE MIND WITHIN A WEEK LATER in flip flop and telling the world since that this mitigation plea to MinLaw and AGC appertains to “procedural” and “prosecutorial issues” (a stab right in the heart of judicial independence) and it will remain so. I have compelling apprehension that the public mind must be shaking the head -left-to-right-and-back again knowing that such mitigation plea actually reached the read of judiciary which one judge found a case to be “troubling”.

    Every time PAPpys oppressed trying to win the hearts and minds of voters, I find it amusing of comedy.

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  • oxygen:

    Oops, sorry typo error there

    oxygen: One moment, you see PAPpy talking cawked about MPs have obligations to discover falsity mischief of misleading deceptions

    should be read as

    oxygen: One moment, you see PAPpy talking cawked about MPs have NO obligations to discover falsity mischief of misleading deceptions

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  • see lah .. 69.99% asked for it:

    The 69.999% daft Sinkingpooreans asked for it …

    No competition in parliament means such standard of service from your MPs and Ministars lah …

    Go on … give them 79.999% of votes … see what they will do to you.

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  • HarderTruths:

    Ahm… Philip – this IS Ah Kow.

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  • Poor quality control !!!:

    Those top brass who are responsible should go down to especially newly built ECs and see for themselves the uneven floors, doors that cannot shut, uneven walls, sliding doors that cannot shut, taps and piping that leak and untidily laid out, poor paintwork, uneven electrical and plumbing fittings, and you complain and they sort of lazily come back to fix it up but not to your satisfaction despite repeated repairs or touching up. You just give up. And to make matters worst the surroundings are not properly looked after and some areas and stairways are still like rubbish sites.
    The car parks are poorly badly designed.
    After moving in, to cut costs, residents seek out the remaining foreign workers who are doing touch up work and negotiate with them for a small fee to expedite do the repair work and still many done shabbily. These workers are eager to earn the extra few bucks so anything goes.
    You are helpless as you feel nobody seems to be seriously interested to rectify the problems.
    When you move in to a new apartment you expect minimum problems. After all it is not cheap.
    Very disappointing if you compare to the showroom examples.
    Then after guarantee/warranty period over, they tell you are on your own, you inherit the defect problems.
    Suggest those highly paid ministers and all those concerned come out of your cushy offices and do their job more actively please.
    Please make surprise unannounced visits to check up on the progress, on work done on a regular basis from beginning to end of project, on everything, or hold regular town hall meetings with residents to get to know what is actually going on.
    Stop farting around and get serious.

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  • Sperm hit the ceiling:

    As GOOD as WKS when he said
    Mas Selamat is INSIDE SG or he is OUTSIDE SG.

    So scholarly!

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  • LIONS:

    DesMONKEY,son of lee yock suan,will be just like his old man – another chiak liao bee.
    At least,his dad didnt talk too much cock.

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  • opposition dude:

    What has conveniently escaped PAP’s excuses is that ALL flats old and new were subjected to that spell of wet weather. How come we didn’t hear of tiles popping up in flats built from the 60s to 90s?

    It just goes to show that the workmanship cannot stand up to a few days of cold temperatures, it’s as simple as that.

    What’s next, paint peeling when the hot weather of 35 degrees and above goes on continually for 5 days or more?

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  • intelligence of a PAP scholar:

    On 5 Feb, MND Minister Desmond Lee anyhow suggested in Parliament that the cool weather had caused tiles to go pop in more than 700 HDB flats last month

    The recent -20C or -30C deep freeze in Russia and Europe and also North America must have caused entire cities there to crumble.

    Somehow, not a single tile fell off any wall or roof.

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  • prefab vs red-bricks:

    //On 5 Feb, MND Minister Desmond Lee anyhow suggested in Parliament that the cool weather had caused tiles to go pop in more than 700 HDB flats last month//

    how about old wall tiles installed in old flats built in 70s, nothing happened leh ? why ?

    got a feeling nowadays in so-called much advanced modern sinkie land, a lot of pian jiak pian jiak standards (good on paper but not in practice) in materials and workmanship (e.g prefab vs red-bricks).

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  • adasd:

    这个DL是个太子党,要不是他老子的关系,这种料能升这么快?

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  • 李敖很笨:

    adasd:
    这个DL是个太子党,要不是他老子的关系,这种料能升这么快?

    父拿国家百万新水还不够,兒子又接下父的百万新水,一代传一代,多好賺,做几年就那么容易成千万富翁。

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  • Jiak Low Bee:

    He should have mentioned, this only happens once in 50 years. Why make a fuss, HDB will recommend their accredited “contractor”, often comes with a marked up price.

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